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noblefada: Ok let me put this ignorance to rest. Melchisedek was a type of Christ, in the time he existed he was a priest to God (the first mentioned priest) and also the king of a place called Salem, which later became Jerusalem, which was a type of Christ because Christ is both a priest and a king. He not having beginning of life or ends of day just meant it was not recorded (no record existed) and the only reason he was mentioned in Hebrews was to essentially differentiate Christ's priesthood from that of Aaron, Hebrews 7:20-24 NKJV
And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath [21] (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him: " The LORD has sworn And will not relent, ' You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek'", [22] by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant. [23] Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. [24] But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood.
So because Melchizedek had no recorded of death, so also Christ's priesthood still stand because He lives to die no more Hallelujah!
And pls Jesus was NEVER on earth physically until he was born of Mary, howbeit there we lots of revelation of Christ, but no physical manifestations, all those physical beings seen in OT apart from Genesis 3 were all angels. Shalom.

shdemidemi: Did you not know God related with Abraham based on what he believed through his father, Terah. God telling Abraham to sacrifice Isaac was a popular part of heathen/pagan culture at that time. God also made him cut animals into halves to swear/make an oath with Abraham. It was not new to Abram neither was giving a tenth (number 10 represents completeness, tithe symbolize giving all to God) to the king or gods strange to him as well.

Bidam: I don't know what you are talking about here o..Which one con be pagan custom again

Bidam: @Gombs, the point is Melchizedek was a Type of Christ of Old,Moses was a Type of Christ,David was a Type of Christ, Joseph was a Type of Christ,
Samson was a Type of Christ. Read their stories and see REDEMPTION in them. In the NT i am a Type of Christ. Paul says Christ has many membered PARTS. Christ filled the OT as well as the NT, The bible is ALL about Christ. Do you not see how you are missing it? Let's look at the Melchi story again.

Melchisedec was a type of Christ as Priest. He was without father and mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life, but made like unto the Son of God. Now, remember this, in Hebrews 13:8: "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever."

And let me also point out an interesting story about Abraham's encounter with 3 visitors in Gen 18. Do you know who they were? They ate what Abraham gave them? God is Spirit, does God eat food? You can see this thing is bigger than what you can imagine.

When Jesus appeared before His disciples after his resurrection he asked to be given food and he ate it to show them he was flesh and bones(none of his bones was broken), He shed his blood to show us that the life of the flesh is in the blood. Right now Jesus is sitted as a person at the right hand of God the Father.To say He never preexisted his birth is poor bible knowledge on you part.

Gombs: I was talking about John the beloved.... aBi na john the Baptist write the book of John?... John the Baptist came in the power of elijah, even if he was elijah, it would not be termed reincarnation, because elijah never died in his day.

People of God on NL... u see why we need pray for people? Bro, the devil is doing a fine job on u

Gombs: When Jesus said before Abraham was I am... that obviously would have been a wrong grammar, twas suppose to be "before Abraham was, I were". But Jesus knew what he was saying when He said "before Abraham was I AM"... He was referring to the name God called him self "I am that I am".... Jesus was actually saying " look buddies, l already existed before everything... even your father Abraham"

Stop proliferating false doctrine and thoughts all in the guise of proving whatnis not worth proving in the first place

Gombs: Didn't wanna get involved in this, but your above is a worrying thought.

Quick quiz, did Jesus EVER exist as a person in heaven or on earth before he was born by the virgin? The answer is a big NO! Why? Because John 1 said the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.... this was during John's time, twas not Abraham's time, and this was the only time such was done, and twas solely done to redeem man.

Know this.....Jesus is not melchizedek. If he were, then Hebrews 7 would have lied to us from the fact that it said that a priest would rise up in the same order as melchizedek, meaning these folks were two different folks. Note however, that he was LIKE the Son of God.... if it is not panadol, it can never be panadol.

And Goshen, I'm watching u.... Be careful, u might contradict ur tithing stand with this melchizedek thread.... and I'd redily archive it.

AVRS: Great! Very correct. Thanks.

Kei144: Re. 4:4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.

Melchizedek is one of the 24 elders of Rev 4:4. These elders are Adams. The first Adam sinned. These other Adams did not sin. Jesus is the last Adam; He carried the responsibility of redeeming the first Adam.

Re. 5:6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the centre of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits [Or the sevenfold Spirit] of God sent out into all the earth.
Re. 5:7 He came and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.
Re. 5:8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
Re. 5:9 And they sang a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.
Re. 5:10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

God (Him who sits on the throne--Rev 5:7) exalted Jesus to the highest place (Phillipians 2:9) because of His work of redemption. That is why the 24 elders, who are like Him, should bow to Him.

Bidam: Bro...no mind them..i dey gbadun your revelation, carry on jare..They fail to see that Jesus is the reincarnated Word who became a Son,He never was created, He was begotten,Just like Melchizedek He preexisted His birth.

ajayikayod: I cant argue wit u, i m advising u and correcting u and it pays if u take to such rather than call it long story.

I prefer to discuss wit u whn u bcome d "student of d Word" who has done thorough study, prayerfully and wit adequate meditation, and has come to maturity thru patience and discipline in d place of prayer and bible study so dt i can also b edified whether we agree or not.

Your attitude to d Word doesnt show dt and its preventing me from such discussions wit u. I will rather advice u and pray u yield to such so dt u can b a better and patient "student of d Holy ghost". One dt knows d place of prayers, meditations and patience in diligent bible study.

Lik u said, i will lik to cut it short here too.

Stay Blessed.

Bidam: Or you can equally put it this way The Lord said to my Lord sit at my right hand.

You see how you dey shoot yourself for foot abi? Why don't you explain to him who Melchizedek is instead of bastardizing God's word. Smh!

You dey fear because e go cancel your belief about tithe...

Merry xmas bro..remember to appreciate God by giving Melchizedek tithes of ALL.. Baba God don bless you..eno easy.

ajayikayod: U mean askin u if u pray about ur study is irrelevant? Oo boy. I m amazed!!!
I am not here to tell u whether u ar right or wrong on wat u claim/study. I hav serious issues wit u whn u dont even know wat u ar talkin about more than a day. Is dt how u learn? U r tot now, d next minute u go out to tell d world about it? U never heard about Melchisedek in NT till now and u ar evn bragging dt u read d bible alot. Dt is extremely dangerous and ppl lookin up to u on doctrinal and christian issues can b in serious wahala.

Ur comment showed dt thr ar many of d books of d bible u never opened b4 (including Book of Hebrews, till today). U need to start studying and allow d Spirit u claim also to teach u about "patience"

I also mentioned "student of d Word" u said u r not but "student of d Holyghost". Try stop creating confusions for urself, it will help u a lot.
Thanks

andico34: brother flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but the HOLY SPIRIT

ajayikayod: U ve not answer d most important questn i asked. Did u pray at all in ur study? Dts key for me to enter into a discussion wit u.
Also i wonder u sayin u ar not a student of d word, so pls wat ar u? Rabbi?

noblefada: You see how shallow u are in scriptures, it took Paul 13 yrs of study before teaching, reading Galatians chapters 1&2, and for your reincarnation craps, you would have cured ur ignorance if you had read Hebrews 9:27. By the way are even a xtian?

doubleDx: I find it very difficult to agree with the emboldened part. Okay, let's look at Paul's case when he was called =>

Galatians 1:15-18 (KJV)

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

haibe: It is accepted by so many christian scholars and theologians that Christ is Melchizedec, this seems to be true comparing both of them, however since the bible didn't specifically state it, we may need to avoid speculations.

mcfynest: precepts upon precepts sir!

please most are old wine skin. please dont throw the children food to dogs!!!

mcfynest: who are christians

noblefada: Because getting saved takes just an instance of believing, but getting established in the word takes diligent prayers and studying, the latter many xtians are too lazy to do.
@meilyn pls take out time to pray more and study, imaging saying u just read about melchesedek in Hebrews and you rush out to give a doctrine! FYI melchesedek is not Jesus Christ, you did not study ur bible well and by the way you use the new testament to explain the old and not the other way round. Shalom

ajayikayod: A day study can never be enough for u to reach a conclusion on doctrinal issues like ds. Whether right or wrong, a very diligent study is wat it takes for u to b established on such issues. Ds same issues in discussion can take a well discipline, spirit filled student of d word a range of 1-5years of study, searching, learning, praying and robbing minds wit fellow believers in other to hav a thorough insight to such discussion.

Bro, can i ask u, hav u prayed also b4 affirming ds conclusion or u just received ds as u pointed out?

OlaoChi: Pls do

PAGAN 9JA:
Reincarnation is not biblical.

MEILYN if you prove so, then that only proves what a contradictory book of lies the bible is.

so go ahead. .

ajayikayod: Bro, on d bolded. Dont u think u r too forward on ds. If u see/learn things a new, its important to be patient and study thoroughly (rightly dividing) as a good bible student b4 u come to conclusion and also form a doctrine.
I admonish dt u b careful on bein wanting to share d word or say u r led to a meaning without adequate study.
Thanks.

Goshen360: You don't need anyone to help you understand the Scriptures a little bit, you need someone to help your confusion the more. Lemme help your confusion the more.

If, according to you, Christ is = Melchizedek. Then, that scripture above should read thus:

Thou, CHRIST art a priest forever after the order of CHRIST

OlaoChi: But then this implies reincarnation and core Christian doctrine dismisses reincarnation

OlaoChi: I don't think any Christian would support you on this. Was this from the so called holy spirit?

martha: Hmmm

kayuseful: i'm fed up with this people o, bcosthe version dnt seem to favour u, u called them wrong, not just one version,, not two, many versions said one thng! Even kjv says LAWS OF COMMANDMENTS that are in ORDINACES. 3 words that are synonymns of LAW used by kjv. where else can jews n gentiles b reconciled when there is law? SO Christ had to abolished that whole system of law to make in himself a new creation where there is neither circumcision nor uncircumcision, but Christ is all and in all.