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Princewell2012: thanks so much for your insight, i have realy achieve alot here. But this the revelation i got while reading ur post. Now jesus fulfil the sacrificial law when he died on the crooss while he fulfil the moral law when he send HolyGhost on the earth. Therefore all the law has been fulfil. Now how does he fulfil moral law with Holyghost? When a man receive Holyghost into his life, the Holyghost will began to direct him, insruct and to correct, and to give him the mind of God. Which means the comforter will be his teacher, hencefort all the laws has been completed.

otipoju: @MEILYN

What made Moses become very meek. It was the knowledge of God.

The more you learn about God,the more you realise the extent of your ignorance. And you become sober and simple.

Your harsh words for those who dare question your claims is a sign that you still need to learn from the Holy spirit that you claim is inspired you.

My position on Melchizedek and Christ is clear and simple. There is not enough information for us to draw any conclusion for or against. Na wetin God take pass us be that. There is nothing wrong in not knowing something.
Even the prophet Elisha said that God kept the death of the widows son from him. No be big deal.

So many mysteries that we do not know. Paul was shown so quite a number that a thorn in the flesh was given to humble him. but please don't try to do eisegesis for an exegete.and don't let knowledge puff you up.

otipoju: The bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction. What you have written about reincarnation is clearly at odds with christianity basic belief that since the blood of animals was not enough to pay for redemption, God had to come in flesh to pay the ultimate price to absolve man of guilt for sin of rebelion against God.

If I would come back in 75-100 years time to bear the consequences of my sin or the rewards of my good deeds,what is the point of Christs salvific work on the cross.
And as the lamb who was slain to redeem mankind?

I am listening. Shed more light please

otipoju: @MEILYN

You have claimed that melchizedek is christ because Jesus said that when Abraham met him he treated him nicely as opposed to his offspring who took persecuted prophets.

I have said that your basis for this your claim does not hold water and I have explained using the words of Jesus himself to indicate what he meant by being treated nicely.

If you are going to claim that melchizedek is christ, you will need a stronger argument. The burden of proof is on you. You are the one who is claiming divine revelation to a question that has burdened the christian world for centuries .any way your argument is not convincing enough because you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt which you have not.

Go dig more, you have barely scrathed the surface. I am not impressed.

otipoju: Don't you also think that your ideas of judgement of the world contradicts that shown in the book of revelation.?

According to your private intepretation man is punished or his rewarded for the sins or virtous acts of his previous life in the current one.

But we see Christ sitting in judgement over the nations in the book of revelations. Can you shed more light on the contradiction.

ajayikayod: Give more time to study and prayer bro as a good workman. D understanding and conviction may tarry but will surely come.

IseOluwa777: Signing out of this thread my friend. Cheers and God bless you is my prayer.

otipoju: @MIELYN

Man is said to be created in the lmage and likeness of God, does that make him God?

otipoju: MEILYN: your conclusion tha Melchizedek is Jesus rests on your answer to the question " where did Jesus and Abraham meet?"

And you concluded that it must have been when Abraham gave him tithes.
Sounds plausible but have you considered at the judgement of the saints where the justified and the condemned asked Christ when they helped and hurt him respectivel and HE told them that it was their treatment of his brethren that immediatel applies to him.

A similar scenario plays out also when Jesus appeared to Saul and asked Saul why he was persecuting him even though Saul had never seen Jesus,but because he was persecuting his disciples it meant saul was persecuting Jesus.

And so I dare say that Abrahams good treatment of strangers who turned out to be beings from God was considered as good treatment of Christ. Unlike the Isrealites who persecuted his prophets.Perhaps this was what Christ meant.

And so if Melchizedek was a priest of the most high God, then abraham giving him tithes as a representative of God would mean Abraham was really giving the tithe to God and so Jesus being God would be pleased with it.

Also you have not adressed the matter of " is like" and "is". When something is said to be like, it is taken for granted that it is not exactly "it" but is similar to it by possessing some of "its" characteristics but it is still not it. My her may be as tall as I am, fair as I am,gentle as I am, articulate as I am, but is still not me.

It is not stated explicitly that Christ is Melchizedek and let us refrain from jumping to conclusion.

IseOluwa777: My friend, if you do not believe the Jesus Christ is God almighty in human flesh, then there is no basis for your salvation because "[bold] Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.[/bold]

The blood of Jesus is the blood of God.

Private interpretation means this: Every Word of God has the meaning which God intended when He said it. That means on doctrinal issues, there is only one right answer. If you say "A" on a doctrinal issue and God meant "B", then you are in trouble with God. So you have to find God's "B", and only say God's "B". Anything outside that is private interpretation. So the bottom line is getting God's meaning and not what You think is God's meaning.

Jesus is the God of the Old Testament (whatever you choose to call Him, thats up to you) in human flesh. The scriptures say so. However these are deep things that only God's predestinated seed can understand. It is not given to all to understand.

funshint: What you're saying now is a different thing entirely though you're right. So many pastors mislead their members to believe that they are well covered because christ has alrdy died for their sins. Thus they are not bound by the old laws...may God help us!

IseOluwa777: @Op. Let me say this. Jehovah came in flesh in the person of Melchisedek to Abraham. Now Jehovah has come in flesh in the person of Jesus (Yehoshua - meaning Jehovah our Saviour). Jesus was the Father ( Jehovah in human flesh). So yes Jesus and Melchisedek are the same.

However, here is nothing like reincarnation in God's Bible. The Bible is not open to private interpretation. You will die spiritually when you do that because you would have effectively added to the Word of God by your private interpretation.

jamael: the Bible said seek ye 1st the kingdom of God...
you seek it where it is. That is in a true Bible believing Church not chilling at home so Run now now now to Church and pray and stop ranting with foolish questions on NL

funshint: So the only way to obey the law is to attend church?? Shallow christians.. Look here church is just like a school; the real outside world is the exam. Even demons become angels when they're are in church; but they still remain who they are.

Nosu: Can a fish do witout the water? If it can then u can.

officialmsright: As long as you accept Jesus as your lord and personal saviour, your gateway to heaven is open and nothing can close it thanks to his blood.

JMAN05: Wrong translation. that word shouldn't be translated rude, but unskilled. That agrees with the sense of the greek word. learn to study texts instead of accepting any thing that issues from translations of the bible. see also in NASB, ESV, NLT.

So, you ve failed there, try another eisegesis.

andico34: melyn my brother pls one advice. pls be humble about these revelations and dont argue with anyone. THE HOLY SPIRIT MOVES MOST IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF MEEKNESS

Gombs: Lol.... u have a great sense of humour.... but eh, meilyn sometimes make me wonder whether english is that hard... a is like b now means a is b.... na wa o

Goshen360: I know say you like prophet offerings and me sef understand say anyone who give a prophet gift will receive a prophet reward, what is my prophet reward SO THAT I can know how FAT my prophet offerings will be?

noblefada: I think I'm done here don't want to waste my time, reading carefully what you wrote and u see it's what I'm to tell u, there were no records of him because he was patterned after Christ, meaning what he was trying to show was that Christ was going to have an everlasting priesthood. Shalom.

shdemidemi: na fight?
Take time to study your bible numerology and notice the number patterns used in it. Every number, age, times, name, city and season gives an idea of what God is saying at every point. I will not in anyway force that on you but it will be interesting if you can check them yourself.

Bidam: Lol, bros, no tight your fist abeg..Send am o..God loves a cheerful giver.

ajayikayod: Bro, true talk.

In d case of d Op here, a little patience and disciplined study of bible tenses could hav suffice. But whn we ar quick to talkin about i reciev revelation ds it wat it result to "confusion".

doubleDx: It's glaring bruv....

shdemidemi: How dare you tell someone else he lacks wisdom, small small decorum please.

noblefada: I said Melchizedek was a type of Christ, because he was both a priest and a king, so was Moses, Joshua, Samson, David etc. they were all types of Christ. Melchizedek died, both there was no record of when, meaning his priest did not end due to death and that's why Christ priests was patterned after that and not Aaron's, because Christ's priesthood will be forever.

Goshen360: You see, you know you and me will forever be brothers, whether we agree or not. But my problem with you is, you need to cool down, e be like say your gra-gra dey too much sometimes. What I said to him replacing Christ for Melchizedek was to make him see how wrong his interpretation was if Christ IS Melchizedek. The verse you quoted also, those that mean or interpret the first "Lord" is the SAME as the second "Lord" in that verse? That's exactly what I wanted him to see. Here's the original quoting of that verse:

King James 2000 Bible
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.

American King James Version
The LORD said to my Lord, Sit you at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.



Why should I be afraid Melchizedek teaching will cancel my tithe belief? If you, me and Gombs agree that he is NOT Christ but LIKE Christ, can a person be compared to HIMSELF? Goshen looks LIKE Goshen, who does that?

Merry Christmas to you too, I for send Prophet offerings to you but you don collect too much tithe this year, that one suppose don do you this Christmas.

Goshen360: @ Gombs,

Sometimes, it appears some Christians study the word BUT they don't understand tenses. This is not an insult to them but that's what it seems like. How can someone be reading "A is LIKE B" and be telling us it is the same meaning as "A IS B"? This is the problem we have with folks today and we wonder why so much argument as if we, Christians are bunch of confused people. The same problem I have with the OP, if he likes, let him call Melchizedek anything but saying Melchizedek is Christ, Oh Lord, help us!

And, YOU, Gombs, leave that tithe matter this Christman season, the one una don collect don do.