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hensben:
Of course Man U do spend but they are not really good in spending on the right players, maybe because they have enjoyed academy players who turnout quality from late 90s so they think something of such can still be attain again with the likes of Rashford, Lingard, cleverly, Welbeck.....But the thing is Epl is now more competitive having teams with more money to spend to bring players.

The champions league is filled with the best teams in the world yet Ronaldo is still dropping goals constantly. None of that epl bullshit will fly my guy.

hensben:
True it doesn’t take a soothsayer to know that Man U is not Real Madrid, vice versa. Epl is not La Liga too. Did cr7 play for Man U when it is UCL match after moving to Madrid??

You have derailed the discussion. If Ronaldo had stayed in England his goalscoring records will still very much be the same especially if he had changed his style earlier on in his career to the goal machine he is now. You have watched Ronaldo all this years and you think when Messi is scoring 50goals in la liga you think Ronaldo will be ok with his 30 fuckkk no my friend.

hensben:
But you said you must not spend to achieve more. Okay but the thing is united management don’t think this way, they will rather let cr7 go than spending lavishly on quality players like Madrid over the years. If only you know how many players Madrid brought in before mou made them formidable again. Man U board doesn’t spend that way sorry.

Just because Man u board don't spend like Madrid which is even debatable doesn't mean they won't be able to create a side that Ronaldo would thrive it. Ronaldo Portugal goal scoring record is another prove of that. The constant is Ronaldo being a goal scoring machine at any were he has played be it Spain, England or the champions league. Take Ronaldo to Norwich and no doubt he would still score 50goals.

hensben:
Like I said earlier, all these you are saying are mere IF, but realistically it’s not so. Remember football is business/profit first for club owner. Okay where will Man U get another Scholes and Giggs if they refused to spend on quality players to make cr7 stay? Tell me.

It doesn't take a soothsayer to know if you have the best player in the world the more your chances of winning trophies and the more profit the club makes. All you have to do is look at the impact Ronaldo had at Madrid to draw your conclusion. If you are saying Ronaldo won't maintain his goalscoring ability in England like he did in Spain then all you have to do is look up his champions league records.

hensben:
To get those goals consistently you need quality players around you, remember football is a team sport and not roger Federer vs Rafael nadal. I’m not denying cr7’s greatness but as a superb player you need a good supporting cast to achieve more because football is a team sport as I mentioned above.

Yes and the United Management will definitely put more effort in bringing in more world class players when you have Ronaldo has your main man or he might leave.

hensben:
That is because Madrid are always willing to break the bank for quality players but same is not with Man U. Man U that refused to sign Modric and Bale to replace aging Scholes and Giggs respectively, instead they settled for Cleverly, Ashley young and Januzag. It’s not about tittles and all that but the two club’s policies are different.

You are just going back and front. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs.? it's not only by spending money that you can build a strong squad capable of delivering trophies. You are confusing this United with the one Ronaldo was in. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. It's that easy

hensben:
When you say it is cr7 we are talking about here, remember it is Epl we are discussing here too.

If you check Ronaldo champions league goals and records you won't be making noise about the difficulty of Epl.

hensben:
All these you typed are if but realistically it would’ve not happened that way, remember Man U lost ucl final against Barcelona twice, one when cr7 was still there. Also remember he only had one superb season for Man U, his stats reduced in his last season with you guys.

What is not realistic in One of the best club in the world winning more titles and building a better team with the best player in the world? All you have to do is look at his impact at Madrid and draw a conclusion.

hensben:
So you mean Cr7 will maintain 50 goals a season continuously in epl?? Haba make Una Dey analyze the game with logic and not sentiments and emotions. Which player wan Dey supply am the 50 goals, aging Giggs and Scholes, Cleverly or is it on and off Rooney. This is epl we are talking about where players are well motivated with wages and not La Liga where some clubs owe salary. If he had remained in Man U he would not have achieved much like his Madrid time.

You see the kind of effect Ronaldo has had on Real Madrid over the last 8 years that would have been United. More league titles and Champions league trophies. He would have achieved the same if not more individual and collective titles with the way the English press will hype up the rivalry with Messi. United would have built a start studded team if Ronaldo didn't leave.

elampiro:
In Madrid he was supported by a world class star studded team. Bale at his peak, Di Maria at his peak, Benzema at his peak. Alonxo, Modric, Isco, Marcelo, Casimero and at their peak.

You have jumped from your initial argument of doing it in a weaker league because I brought his record in the champions league to the quality of players he was playing with. How many other players in that Madrid team was averaging those same amount of goals playing with those same players? Put Ronaldo in the city team of the last 2 seasons and he will be banging in 60 to 70goals regularly. It's Ronaldo you are talking about my guy.

hulk616:
you got it

Mod please ban this guy from this thread.

elampiro:
He was playing in an easy league with great team mates. So it was easy to score 50 goals a season and 5 hatricks in one season.

How about his 106 champions league goals for Madrid, is that also an easy competition? Man you have nothing to suggest Ronaldo will not be dropping those same 50goals if he was in England. The greatest goal scorer of his time will go to any league and dominate.

elampiro:
In 2007/2008...... 42 goals (31 in the EPL)
In 2008/2009.......26 goals (18 in the EPL)

You can see he would not have sustained it.

And this proves what exactly? So you have watched Ronaldo for the past 5 to 6 seasons and still thinks he won't be dropping crazy goal scoring stats even in the premier league. You are disrespecting Ronaldo stop it.

How impressive is varane career so far. 4 champions league and One world cup at the age of 26. Mourinho gave us a gem.

Sergio Ramos and Raphael Varane have the best form defensively in Europe going 23 matches unbeaten together in all competition. It's mad we have only conceded 13goals in la liga this season.

Jodera:
this Liverpool team peaked last season. It's unfair to ask such a question.
Also @ the bolded. We all know top clubs poached his best players. Even at that he still won back to back league (to show that it was no fluke) and some domestic cup too. Poaching of his best players year in year out is not something and starting afresh is not something saf nor mourinho normally encounter during their peak reigns.

Just wanted to know the basis on why you think klopp Liverpool is better than those teams mentioned or even stand a chance against them. I was just curious why you think this Liverpool team is greater than those United/Chelsea teams even when they have 0 domestic trophies so far and just a ucl title to their name.

eph12:
I think its time seun gives us that option to block posts or user

Seun please bring this option asap.

Jodera:
I know Chelsea team of 2004/2005 was really great.. But this Liverpool team will give them a run for their money. Klopp and his team really great make we no lie.

Sorry just out of curiosity. How many domestic trophies has his Liverpool side won? How many trophies in total through out his tenure?

TLona1:
One can't blame them

Over the years they've been sodomised by Barca tactically and numerically. The few good times they had on Wednesday can't just pass. Let them celebrate it cos it only comes once in a lifetime

Why are Barca fans this shameless? Channel your frustration on how you played on Wednesday to Messi and keep it on your thread. We are not interested in all this your preaching.

Olamyyde:
Remind us how many freekick mr challenge has scored since he went to Juventus.

All of a sudden freekick is Barca fans bread and butter.

Chrisus:
Boy, this one is tough

I'm inclined towards Ronaldo's though.

What is tough exactly? How do people compare a free header to what Ronaldo did yesterday still baffles me. Check YouTube and see there was nothing special about Messi header against United

FirstbornWds:
[s] Remind me who Ronaldo is again?? Animal place or thing?


I believe you're only pouring out hate but at least do it with sense. Ronaldo have played more league games than Messi this season but still lagging behind in number of goals scored... Take it or leave it. The G O A T status remains undisputed.

Do you have a number six? [/s]

Messi last 4 El classico 0 goal 0 assist. Choke on that.

Barca fans

Messi has the same El classico goals has Ronaldo since he left for Juventus.

TLona1:
Messi has the most goals and assists against Madrid.

Take your L and use it as a Love Machine!

Messi has the same El classico goals has Ronaldo since he left for Juventus. Use it as tower and dry your tears.

TLona1:
See how he is trying to avoid Ls

If Messi doesn't perform well against big teams how come he has the most goals against Madrid?

Or is Madrid now a small team?

If Messi performs well in big games how come he went back to back competition with Argentina without a single goal? When you bottled 3 goal advantages back to back in the champions league were was Messi? Ronaldo has the same El classico goals with Messi since he went to Juventus. Feck outta here.

obainojazz:
Calma calma guys... Messi will pad stats against other short la liga defenders.

El classico goals since Ronaldo went to Juventus...0
Messi goals .........0

Messi in big games

TLona1:
Explain why and how he has the most goals and assits in El Classico.

Explain why and how Messi went back to back competition with Argentina without scoring a single goal in both.

TLona1:
No wonder he has has the most goals and assists in El Classico history.

Messi in big games

hulk616:
Messi 2 games 0 goals GOAT Ronaldo 2 games 3 goals
Messi was useless against great real Madrid

Messi is always useless against any big team.

please don't give the attention seekers what they want.

TLona1:
Yes because we have a tactically naive coach.
How has your dominance made you top the table?

Stupid we are joint top.

I will love us to get Pogba in January to play that number 10 role.