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pharod:
Later now, they will be calling Dayo Amala turner. No problem, I will indulge you. Going by your logic, Fred will have to prove himself by warming the bench first b4 breaking into the first team, right? So, CR7 too will have to prove himself first. If we sign Messi 2moro, he will have to sit on the bench for Lingard, abi?
We have a gaping hole in the midfield which Mourinho tried to fill with McTomminay and Herrera plus Fellaini and failed. That's why Fred was signed. He's not sitting on the bench unless he fails to perform to expectations.

And your earlier submission was that Fred is a guaranteed bench warmer when he's yet to play a competitive game for United.. 3rd behind Herrera and Felaini

Holy shittttt. You are comparing the impact of ronaldo and Messi who everybody knows their quality and what they offer to Fred who was bought from the frecking Ukrainian league . argument dead on arrival lol

raumdeuter:
You know Mourinho Madrid scored the record goals in a La Liga season, Is he an attacking or a defensive coach?

what kind of dumb question is that? Who has the best defensive record in a premier season.

eph12:
What United played last season wasn't defensive. United attacked, had more possession but couldn't build reasonable attacks. Final balls were very poor and nobody was opening. There was no rush until we were a goal down. It was the same slow sideways pass LVG played. We only defended against top teams and with the points we got from top teams, we held our own well. The problem was the points we lost against smaller teams and we didn't play defensive games against them.

All of a sudden Rogers has become one solid attacking coach because you want to support Mourinho. The fncking same Rogers? Maybe United should go for him next so we can play attacking football

Is Mourinho an attacking coach? Everybody associates Mourinho team with being defensive going by the general perception same with conte,simeone etc So I don't get the point you are trying to make. So you are saying a manager which team scored 101 goals in 38 matches a Liverpool record is not an attacking manager WAt da feck. In contrast klopp highest is 84 lol. Brendan is an attacking manager that part is not even debatable come on.

pharod:
Na this part I never understand at all... How? Av asked him b4 but he refused to answer...

Will Fred start for United when the squad is complete? If Mourinho is losing against Leicester and looking for an impact substition with Fred and Fellaini on the bench who do you think he will bring on. Am saying that until Fred proves his worth to mourinho and shows what he brings to the team he wont start over Herrera and Fellaini who he already knows what they offers same with mahrez at City.

raumdeuter:
Did Pep sign Alves and Bonnuci? Zlatan that Mourinho gave huge wages, what is he contributing to the team now?

Pep weeded out Sagna Clichy Kolarov Zabaleta Hart Yaya and replaced them with Ederson Walker, Mendy, Laporte. That shows a coach who knows what he s doing. 40M Lindelof cant even make the team and you already told us Fred is a 3rd sbstitute behind Fellaini and Herrera

Na wa for you sha. No point watsoeva. Can United afford to back mourinho if he attempts such a clear out in one transfer window? Mumu is Fred an automatic starter for United. Is mahrez going to be a starter for city? Both are bench players until they prove to the manager their worth which was my point when I made that statement but you carry am for head like tray.

eph12:
2014 loun loun
What happened after then? Which foundation is that when even LVG have been managing United to do better than LFC? In fact who has had a better foundation between Mourinho and Klopp when united has been doing better than lfc before the arrival of the two coaches

shitt.. this one is strong. Foundation in terms of playing style and players. Liverpool an attacking team sacked an attacking coach and replaced him with another attacking coach while United replaced van gaal a possession based coach with a defensive one. If pep and mourinho where to replace simeone at Athletico Madrid who will have an easier job.

raumdeuter:
mendy played 3 games before he was injured in his 4th game. Was Matic not an improvement over what you had? Was Alexis, Bailly etc not an improvement? Or what is exactly this point you are making?

Stop trying to create another argument. Follow the discourse from the beginning. Pep needed his young fullbacks city gave him 2. Mourinho needs his 29yrs wingers cus they fit his style better first persic and now willian which the board has failed to do. If Mourinho wants to pack his bus give him what he asks for not depriving him and then putting the blame on him.

raumdeuter:
So what is the point of extending players that he wont use and piling them giving them salary when he wont use them.

City had older players when Pep came in. They had the 3rd oldest squad in the entire league. Most of the players Pep chased were old. Sagna, Kolarov, Clichy, Zabaleta Yaya Navas Fernando were all old and had to be replaced.

While Pep was signing young players most under 25, Mourinho was giving huge wages to Alexis -29, Zlatan-25, Matic-29 now chasing Willian-29

Bravo is 23 shey? Dani alves and bonnuci that pep wanted where also young lol. Nolito that pep bought was he not also 29. Maybe Pogba, lukaku, Lindelof, Bailey, now Fred and dalot are also 50years old.

raumdeuter:
How did Mendy bring improvement to City when he was injured for most of the season?

Before his injury didn't you see the improvement and quality he brought into the Man City squad. Oya scratch out Mendy, was Walker not an improvement over what they had.

eph12:
Mendy? Lol.. You sef your points are always against you.

Pep cleared out, let Mourinho do same. Let him ask those players to find new clubs. It's money they are paying them not paper.

If Mourinho dumbs 6 to 7 players at once can they be replaced in a single transfer window like pep Did at city? Can United afford to spend 300million in a single transfer window?

eph12:
That's what some of us has been saying. That Liverpool team wasn't playing like that before he came but you can see the changes. 3 years after we are still complaining about the same issues of LVG. so what exactly is he the highest paid coach for?

Wrong on all account. Liverpool was always an attacking team even under Brendan Rodgers. They scored 101 goals in the epl 2013/2014 season 3rd highest In epl history . The foundation was already there. They actually would have won the league if not for Gerrard slip and finished 2nd. What is klopp highest league finish at Liverpool? Did Mourinho have a foundation to build from at united or you expected him to play possession football like van gaal

eph12:
Did United under perform or over perform last season?

Did Liverpool progress or remain stagnant over the last 2 seasons? 4th to 4th 0 trophy to 0 trophy .

eph12:
Mourinho has bought players. He currently has 6 players that should be in the first team, players he bought himself. He has a world class keeper, that's 7 out of 11. Valencia can hold his own, forget all these things you people are saying. Young was quite good at the world cup. Tell me how many is that, that he can't do anything with the team. Do you know that we have the highest wage bill if I'm not mistaken? Have you considered what our debt profile looks like and the plan to manage it?

What kind of manager will say he can only win certain players? Is that not nonsense? It looks like someone has already planned his excuse down in case he fails.

Did you see the massive improvement that Walker and Mendy(yes he was injured ) brought to city last season. If the board had said no and he had continued using Sagna ,clichy etc would city has been that dominant? Every manager has certain players that fits into their idea and what they want to accomplish. .Young and Valencia have a combined age of 62+ lol.
if Jose had given Woodward his
list of 5 players when the season ended, the board
should've communicated to him at that time
informing him of their decisions and maybe asked
him to re do his wish list considering the profile of
players the board preferred, which going by Jose's
reaction, wasn't done.

United finished 2nd 19 points behind City and you think adding just Fred and dalot for £72m will automatically make them title contenders and you expect Mourinho to just shut up........Madness

eph12:
Why emphasis on money spent? Is that what football clubs are about? Just spend money anyhow without clear understanding of how the returns will happen?

Chelsea spent it in one year and they will be playing Thursday night football. You think you just spend money anyhow because your opponents are spending money.

Which of Mourinho signing has not delivered? Apart from maybe miki who was also instrumental in United winning the Europa league who else. If a manager says he can't win the league without
certain players, but the board say they expect to
win the league without purchasing players, problems
arise. Jose wants to win the league but needs more
players to do so, players the board haven't been
able to/don't want to get. Shey now you see his frustration. Why didn't the city board tell guardiola to win the league with the players he had?

eph12:
Where did Chelsea end after spending the 250m last year?

emphasis on the money spent. What Jose spent in 2 years some are spending it on one and you are saying the board has backed him enough.

monerozi5590:
Tell us the actual amount if that figure is wrong!

He's spent £290m the last 2 summers, where the Bleep did you get £400m from? City spent £270m last summer alone, Chelsea spent £250m last year alone. Guess the last 2 epl winners?

monerozi5590:
Tell us the actual amount if that figure is wrong!

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eph12:
I'm not arguing with you. The team played badly for majority of last season because Perisic wasn't there to fill the lwb position. That's cool, I hear you

WAt are saying. Man Utd played exactly how a mourinho team plays.

Jose has a distinct style of play, you just don’t like it or
consider it proper football. His basic style is fast counter attacking with
defending in numbers.

raumdeuter:
Who is better Perisic or Sanchez? He wanted Perisic, he got a better Alexis

Who was Mourinho first choice ? is Sanchez a wing back?

eph12:
It should even be further than that because you have no point. How can you say because he didn't get Perisic last season, the team couldn't play good football. Because of one player?

Holy shit... when the feck did I say that. You said I should list players he missed on last season I did and said perisic. And that he would have been crucial to how Mourinho would have set up his team . I’m talking about the player that JOSE wanted. He played
3-5-2 for all of pre season and publicly stated his desire for Perisic, to play
at lwb which is a position better suited for perisic.

eph12:
So you're saying because he got Sanchez instead of Perisic, his team played so badly last season? Wonderful! So if Perisic retires from football today, Mourinho will retire with him? Just negodu the kind of excuse you are churning out? Guy why?

If my point is in Nigeria, your response is in Iraq. That's how far you are.

monerozi5590:
Mourinho with Man Utd backing has spent 433 million euros on signings since he became a Man Utd Manager and you are here saying the board is not backing him.

Money no d grow for trees oh.

wrong figures. Mourinho has had money but it's hardly a title challenging budget considering the mess he inherited and his rivals unlimited spending. Hell in the last 2 Years United has spend just 50million more than everton on transfer. Even yeye everton

Neymar1095:
So are you saying if Mou had the same budget as Guardiola last season, he would have won 100 points and broken all the records Pep did?

If United had got the players Jose wanted Peresic,Toby,Sandro etc and ,united would be in a much better position to challenge for the title.

raumdeuter:
So with Alexis where will Perisic play? ABi dem go lap themselves for field?

With perisic will Mourinho still had gone for Sanchez? .....common sense

eph12:
How many of his target did he miss out on last season and out of how many?

Only perisic, yes, but perisic was crucial to how he wanted his team to set up.
He got alexis cause it was too good an opportunity to pass up, a game
changing talent. But that doesn't negate his need for perisic last season.

kokaneprodigy:
Mahrez chose not to go to City last season? Or the club refused to over pay for him? Same with Sanchez and u don’t see Pep losing it.

Oh, he missed out on additions to a world class squad, not crucial parts of
assembling a new team. Sandro will start for United same will alderweid ,Savic will start most of Jose intended signing arw getting into the team compared to city and Liverpool. Mahrez and laporte will be bench warmers when City has a full squad. Fekir,fabinho and keita are not automatic starters if klopp had his way and brought them to Liverpool.

raumdeuter:
Because you are lying, Tell us how much his rivals spent so we can see if its truly peanuts

Guy counter with your argument stop asking me silly questions.

raumdeuter:
Bernardo Silva is 43M Pounds and sitting behind Sterling a more expensive player
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/05/26/bernardo-silva-completes-man-city-transfer-monaco-for43m/

You are infact telling us Man Utd spent 60M on a player to be a 3rd backup to Herrera and Fellaini

After 30M Lindelof is sitting on the bench already

Lol.. stones + Laporte =100million sitting on the bench. Mahrez + Silva =102million sitting on the bench. Pep has the whim to get a player, he gets
the player. Jose has to battle with his own board to get a player.

raumdeuter:
In Pounds, How much has his rivals spent?

Do your own homework.

raumdeuter:
A 60M Euro player is quality, whether he starts or sit on the bench is left to the coach. At some point last season the EPL costliest player was put on the bench for McTominay

So Mourinho now wants 60M players that will be 3rd options off the bench to be able to compete?

So its OK for pep to have a 60million player in mahrez and 50million player Silva sit on the bench but Mourinho shouldn't have the same luxury?