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tesppidd:
your point one - if you claim he scored an insane number of goals then what excuse are you really putting up for him being far below in the goal/game ratio?

your point two - if you really watch mess you would know that for 80 percent of his goals he starts his runs from very deep. Either he dribbles many defenders and scores or he plays the one-two, one-two till he gets to the box. No he doesn't sleep in the box waiting for xavi or Iniesta to do all the work for him. No.

your point three - anybody who associates mess with tap ins should be in the kitchen, and I say this without intending any pun. even in the days of xavi and iniesta it will surprise you to know that-

1. Messi had the most assists than xavi and iniesta.
2. Messi had the most chances created than xavi and iniesta.
3. Messi had the most dribbles than xavi Zack and iniesta.

So woman your points are invalid.

I would excuse your ignorance about Messi's game.

Now are judging the impact of xavi and iniesta on assists and numbers bwhhaahhaa. . So how come since xavi left and iniesta's
decline messi 's never won a balon dor lol. Your points doesn't even make sense at all in relation to hers

Kholiwe:
Why are you still wasting your time . Barca fans always have 3 dumb points

1. Ronaldo has more apperances forgetting that he was playing in premier league at a young age as a pure winger in a 4:4:2 under Ferguson yet he still scored an insane amount of goals for a winger .

2. Messi is midfielder: This is even the dumbest argument of all. Like Messi scores all his goals from the centre circle and not in or around the the 18yard box.

3 .Ronaldo has better team mates who feed him tap ins. Forgetting that Messi played under xavi,iniesta and xavi my granmother will score more than 40goals a season with that midfield. Ask them have any of Ronaldo team mates ever finish top3 in balon dor. You shouldnt even bother arguing with them.

bwhahahahh
Even me self i tire. The moment that one said it was easier to score in epl than la liga i just weak. Person nor go see truth talk at least. I nor go try am again.

Upnepaa:
Imagine messi without an international trophy still being compared to the great ororo, The day messi wins an international trophy is the Ronaldo fan boyism goes into extinction.

imagine Messi leaving la liga to the premier league face competition and not farmers.

tesppidd:
all that one na super story!

FYI messi has been playing and scoring as a midfielder and as a winger for the past 4 seasons now.

BTW when it comes to goals the only stats we know are;

Messi. 600 goals in 747 apps.
Ronaldo 639 goals in 897 apps.

That's all that we know.

Is 600 higher than 637? Oya do addition and subtraction bwhahhahha

Kholiwe:
So because Ronaldo is a striker thats why he has more Champions League goals than your entire club this season? What other bullshit excuse do your have cause this is dumb

i tire oo
Ronaldo for Madrid 427games 437 Goals

Messi for barca. 624 games. 539Goals


Its not even comparable if Ronaldo started in la liga he would have scored 1000goals by now .

phaamsaam:
Salah is on his way to better that... Meaning he is a goal scoring Okada too

Has he done it? All ifs and buts, addition and subtraction. Sit your ass down.

Neimar:
u guys talk as if wen Ronaldo started he was a goal scoring machine

mtsheew

Somebody that scored 31goals in England playing as a pure winger a joint premier league record is definitely a goal scoring machine.

idreezbaba:
Go and check the Nigeria premier league bro that's what is called competition.. plateau united won the league last year and lost 10 games!! . that's what is called competition. not some shit league that have money and full of average players...

ok

Kholiwe:
And he reached 300goals faster than messi who started at 17 and will probably die playing in la liga

bwahahahaha.

Kholiwe:
Guy why you dey fall hand. As soon as he said la liga is harder than epl you suppose end the discussion immediately.

Bwahahahah. Ronaldo that has over 300 goals in 286 matches in the weak league.

10Dove:
Seems we watched different teams play then. Shalom!

bwahahahaha you started watching football in 2015.

10Dove:
Under martino, Alexis was playing cf. Messi's false 9 career ended the day pep left barca. Vilanova played fab4 there more cos he umbalanced the midfield.

Sanchez never played as a cf under martino. Barca starting constant eleven under villanova was Messi as 9 flanked by pedro and Sanchez.

10Dove:
Eto'o never played on the wing to accommodate leo in the middle. Leo played false 9 for 2 seasons under pep. Ronaldo has been playing in the middle for the better part of 5yrs. These two are great tbh!

under Pep Messi played as a false9 for 3 seasons then under Tito vilanova he played as a false9 Also under Martino also Messi played as basically a centre forward. Thats 5 seasons as a 9/ false9. Ronaldo started playing as a stiker under ancelloti halfway through 2014/2015 season.

tesppidd:
1. A false 9 basically meant that Messi was playing both the number 10 role and the number 9 role at the same time, in one swoop. Something Ronaldo could never do in his lifetime.

2. Messi played mostly as a substitute player for 3 years. 2006 - 2009. If he started as a regular in 2006 he would have 1000 la liga goals today.

3. Ronaldo probably played as a winger at Manchester United only. From day one at Madrid he has played as a striker. Benzema has always been a striker only on paper. On the pitch Ronaldo has always choked Benzema, forcing him to be the assist striker.

ok.

phaamsaam:
Lol tthey get vexed and result to insults when you show them the light,epl is tougher ? I ask how, kane,salah,aguero,costa,firmino,all ring a bell,apart from kane the rest came from other leagues and are flourishing, salah that couldnt score this ton in serie a,or aguero that has scored more goals per season in epl than laliga, Even if british press decieve you, u no go use ya upper ..una sabi shift goal post ,epl die hard fans and believe shit,so aint surprised

3rd garbage you are posting already. Ronaldo played in England during an era where English teams where dominant. Reaching semi finals and finals in the champions league where a norm. That tells you how strong the epl was during his time there so those names you are listing are just rubbish to be honest. Guy you just dey jump and you are the king of goal post shifting.

phaamsaam:
Harder to score wwhere, epl is shit then,,how many goals did chelsea as a team score last season,how many has mancity n liverpool scored this season...the british press keep decieving you guys, and you wanna be decieved...i dont need to have any further discussion with you if you think the epl is more competitive or its more difficuult to score there...no difference dude...use yyour upper..shine ya eyes...

Bwahahahaha... A league where an individual scores 50goals in a season thats how mediocre la liga is with poor defenders. How can i be wasting my time arguing with someone who thinks its not easier to score in spain than in England. Miss me with your bullshit .

phaamsaam:
Did what in two leagues, salah did it too, aguero,torres, anyone can do it in two leagues,say something else...we compared them on only what ronaldo appears to be great at, but he still gets flawed by the GOAT...guy just forget this discuss...even the blind and deaf easily concor

bwhahahahah.....What did salah, torres and aguero do? Did they win balon dor , Top scorer, Golden boot,champions League in 2 leagues guy hide your face.

phaamsaam:
Tougher league? Stop deluding yourself brother, the media don wash ya head, when did messi start playing as a centre forward and for how many seasonsshine your eyes, same ronaldo has been playing as same CF in the league for close to 3years, messi also played as a left winger for close to 6 years...these stats were compared without excuses bro for both players

With your addition and subtraction keep deceiving yourself. Nor be only left winger, Eto, Villa, Ibra,henry where all pushed to the wing accommodate Messi as a 9. point of this conversation is to prove that the reason ronaldo has a worse career ratio is because it's harder to score in the epl compared to LA Liga with shitt teams. Facts only. Ronaldo did it in 2 leagues that's what him. greater than messi.

idreezbaba:
Messi was never a striker.. he played the false 9 role and he didn't play the role for long.. Manchester United had arguably the second best team then bro.. they had great players too.. and stop saying tough league... Remember a failure like Arsene wenger finished a whole season Unbeatean in a 'tough league' ..

Guy shut up. Epl is tougher than LA Liga and that's a fact. Messi played as a striker or false 9 for 3 seasons under pep after eto left. if Ronaldo started in LA Liga he would have scored 600goals by now.

This barca fans obsession that Messi is head and shoulders above Ronaldo and should not be mentioned in the same sentence is bullshit to be honest. Ronaldo has numerous records, Both personal and team achievement not just in one club but everywhere he has played. Ronaldo is an all time great and that's a fact.

phaamsaam:
I still find it crazy how Messi, who provides so much more for his team, has a much better career goal ratio than Ronaldo. Just 39 goals less from 150 less matches. Also, if you take away their penalty goals, Messi has only scored 14 less goals in his career.
Without penalties:

Messi 523 goals in 747 games
Ronaldo 537 goals in 897 games.

And when you take away free kicks as well and look at purely just goals scored in open play, Messi has only two career goals less:

Messi 484 goals,
Ronaldo's 486 goals.

All this goes to show why Messi even is ahead of him as a scorer, despite not being obsessed with goals. The media obviously will never mention these stats, because they know like with stats in so many other aspects that favour Messi, the myth they're comparable would be exposed.

And if you combine career goals and assists, including all the extra penalties CR has scored and those 150 games extra, Messi has a total of 846 career goals/assists, compared to Ronaldo's 844. So Messi has been directly involved in more goals over his career than Ronaldo... FOR THOSE WHO STILL THINK ITS WORTH COMPARING OR ARGUING ...I JUST SMH...I STOPPED ENGAGING IN THESE ARGUMENTS IN 2012

You also forgot to add that while Messi was playing as a centre forward in one of the greatest midfield combination in history Ronaldo was playing at Man United as a pure winger in a tougher League at a young age.

Ibime:
I'm sure you mean to say 8 managers were wise in benching Mikel. Mikel is the poster boy for bench.

AVB did not want him, Benitez did not want him, Mourinho did not want him, Conte did not want him, yet he kept sitting on contract like a bad smell.

Even when Chelsea only has one fit CM, Mikel will still find his way to bench.

Kurt Zouma in midfield, Mikel on bench. Useless space blocker.

Buh you know Mikel was a starter the season Chelsea won champions league and even started the final against Bayern. While essien and malouda where warming the bench.

raumdeuter:
Salah has scored 24 league goals for a winger in the EPl thts impressive. 7 more goals he will be in the goal scoring territory of Henry, Ronaldo and Suarez in goals scored in a season, Talking about Suarez

Suarez never won any trophy in the EPL where do you think he stands vs other South Americans if we are looking for best South American in the EPL especially when compared players like Oscar Forlan, Tevez Ramirez won the league

Or Gerrard when compared to other English players who have won the league, should we even be mentioning Gerrard in top 50 English player?

Or Gerrard vs someone like Vardy or Drinkwater

Suarez is definitely top 10 because of his insane individual record which covers his lack of trophies and consistency over a long period. 31 goals in 33 matches 2013/2014 almost carrying Liverpool to win the league and 56goals in 66matches over his last 2 seasons. Tevez might not have produced those type of numbers but the fact that he won the league will place him above Suarez. imo Never rated Gerrard, If not for Ac Milan bottling a 3:0 lead he wont be regarded as a legend average at best. Salah has been impressive this season nor doubt but he can produce it next season as well?

raumdeuter:
And all those you mentioned hw many of them did much beyond one season

If Salah misses the rest of the season. He would have 24 league goals for a winger . So what does he need to complete 1 season for? Will they deduct from his goals already scored

What has salah done that is actually worth all this hype. Mahrez was an intergral part of a Leicester team that won the premier League. Numbers + trophies = greatness. First african to win epl player of the Year. In fact i dare say mahrez season winning the league is more impressive than the season salah is having even if he scores up to 30 goals.

raumdeuter:
I agree with this ranking though I might put Yaya ahead of Drogba. Drogba was very inconsistent. In some seasons he was scoring single digits, the type of numbers below what Morata has now and people are on his neck but Yaya for like 5 seasons was a consistent beast

Yaya Drogba Salah Mahrez

Those asking if Salah will repeat it, Has Mahrez repeated his own? Did Drogba repeat his? Of all Afrcan import only Yaya can really say he repeated his consistently

Guys Salah is a winger and on 24 league goals with 9 games to go, Drogbas best ever season is 29 and he is a striker. Ronaldos best league output was 31, Suarez was 31. I wont bet against Salah to score 7 in the next 9 games

IF Salah now breaks EPL goal record for the season are we still going to be saying he should repeat it another season before naming him the best?

Michael Essien 9 years at Chelsea was not a 1 season
wonder. Didier Drogba 9 years at Chelsea was not a 1
season wonder. Yaya Toure 8 years at City was not a 1
season wonder. Salah hasn't even completed one season . For all we know he is just another michu 2.0 . Salah is not even ahead of Kanu talkless of mahrez

elampiro:
Everton consistently finished around 5th-7th. They even finished 4th once. They never won a trophy. Tottenham is a rich man Everton by upgrading the position but no trophy.

Everton had a tighter budget.

Come on you cant compare Tottenham under poch and moyes everton. Miles apart

elampiro:
Everton consistently finished around 5th-7th. They even finished 4th once. They never won a trophy. Tottenham is a rich man Everton by upgrading the position but no trophy.

Everton had a tighter budget.

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phaamsaam:
Arrogance or statement of confidence plus fact

What fact are you talking about .
Head to head

we have 95 wins to your 91.

What fear factor do your club have over Madrid.

Neymar1095:
2009 Madrid spent 80million on a certain Cristiano Ronaldo making him the most expensive footballer ever. That same season Madrid where knocked out of the champions league in the round of 16 by Lyon.

Thats why God is still punishing Lyon. I hate those idiots.

phaamsaam:
Stop deluding yourself..no one in MM wants barca in next round..it is at the santiago bernaleo i would end the contest if its the first leg

Such arrogance from a team that has only 5 champions league title. Personally i Rather face barca than Bayern or man City.

phaamsaam:
You know its the other way round,since ronaldinho you guys have got the fear factor,messi even increased it further,mourinho reduced it,and since then it increased again,REFadrid fear barca,

Royal Madrid fears no One. You haven't even qualified yet?

SPius:
Lol 6th stone
Too early to think of that
Not with messi winning LA liga and cops del rey final in hand.

A knock out from UCL and sweet dreams to your stone d or

Are u done with your rubbish?