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tctrills:
Please read my post above. It answers all your concerns but for the sake of unending argument let's agree that Moses was the mediator of the old testament. Now can we continue from there please.
Because we need to see if Moses was also the way, truth and light of the old testament and no one could come to the Father but by him in the old testament.
Also, we would see if there was a third mediator for those who lived before Moses.
So can we move on please?

Oga I'm not moving on until you show me a translation that contradicts mine in Galatians 3:19.

tctrills:
What's your question here? Your translation was about Moses mine was not. If that is not a contradiction what is?
Secondly, the bible says there is only one mediator, if that is not contradictory to your fake translations , what is?
Now you brought a verse in Hebrew as your defense.
The verse speaks about the mediator of the new testament but it never said the old covenant had or needed a mediator.
Now to avoid continuous back and front, let's assume that Moses was the mediator of the old testament my question is, was Moses the mediator for Abel, Enoch, Joseph and Abraham?
Again are you saying that it was through Moses that the people of the old testament came to God? He was there way, truth and light?
So for argument sale, I have agreed that Moses was the mediator of the old testament so now I guess you can answer all my questions.

Oga you cannot be interpreting......I have given you four translations that prove you wrong without me interpreting those translations....please provide a translation that has Jesus as the mediator in Galatians 3:19.

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MaxInDHouse:
How far?
I have told you that he's just a time waster!

He would get tired before me until he brings a contradictory translation.

tctrills:
Ok let's read and see if Hebrews 9:15 says Jesus is not the only mediator
Hebrews 9:15
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

No it doesn't.
Does Hebrew 9.15 talk about an old testament mediator or an old covenant mediator? It doesn't.
Who even gave you the notion that the old testament or the old covenant needed a mediator.
Who was Abel's mediator?
Who was Abraham, Enoch, Joseph and even Job's mediator.
Oga you have put yourself in a lot of trouble here.

No verse in the bible explains your falsehood.
But 1 Timothy 2:5 explains that there is only one mediator this disproving your 3 fake translations

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Oga you should know that there must be an old covenant if there is a new one. Kindly show a translation that contradicts the ones I've shown you in Galatians 3:19?

tctrills:
This is the verse that your pastor's have no answer to
1 Timothy 2:5

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Oga Hebrews 9:15 clearly explains that your verse.
Kindly show me a version that has Jesus in Galatians 3:19.

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sonmvayina:
Like I said, they would be in a better position.
You are not Jewish, or are you?

So whatever you say is wrong.....

So, if you want to learn, contact them.

😂😂😂....for the fact that you don't know the name of the God of Torah proves that they don't also know it since you've also been learning from them.....so no need

tctrills:
Oga is that the only verse in the bible? You are afraid of the verse that says Jesus Christ is the only mediator just for argument sale.
A true Christian would accept every verse in the bible but in your case you have rejected verses that don't align with what your pastor told you.
It's clear you love your pastor more than God but it's ok.
No problem.

Oga if your interpretation of Galatians 3:19 is correct, bring out a translation that contradicts mine. Simple as ABC.

WeirdAlien:
What you believe does not determine what the truth is. Is Acts 2 the only bible reference of speaking in tongues? Are you throwing away Romans, Corinthians and Galatians? You no dey read? Like I said before, go and read up all the references and get the picture. Don't be lazy.

If you see anyone doing it in church, so far they're not speaking to you, mind your business.

Lol....you are funny....Oga bring out every other points from speaking in tongues out na....who seems to be the lazy one here?

You yourself have Said that you don't believe the "regegegege" and "bragagagaga" that people do in church, why did you not mind your own business?
Why don't you let others say that the speaking in tongues done by churches today is also fake Since you yourself cannot differentiate the fake one from the true one?

sonmvayina:
They would be in a better position to tell you...

They are well versed in the Torah...

Alright...thanks for your time since you don't know the answer.

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MrPRevailer:
The Son is equal with the Father because the Father made him to be. John 17:5
But The Son is subject to the Father. Just as your spirit is subject to you. That's best way i can explain it.

Where did Jesus say he was equal with his father in John 17:5? Kindly explain John 14:28.

Yes. Jesus said the Rich man died and likewise the poor Man. And in Hell, the richman lifted his eyes up to Heaven and saw Lazarus.
Study the bible, don't expect me to spoon feed you lol.

I am yet to see where Jesus said that their soul separated from their body to their different destinations.
Why would the rich man ask for water, does soul drink water without the body?
Where did Jesus indicate that Abraham was in heaven when Lazarus went to meet him?

John 11 says Jesus knew lazarus and loved him. So it's apparent that they were all believers in Christ. He and his sisters.
He would have been in Heaven.

Kindly point out where Jesus indicated that Lazarus was in heaven?
Was Lazarus not supposed to be at the bossom of Abraham?
If Lazarus had gotten his reward by going to heaven, why would Jesus take it back by bringing him to earth again?

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sonmvayina:
I can confidently give you two names
1. Tovia Singer
2.Manis Friedman.

Good teachers of the Torah...

Lol....you don come again. What is the name of the God of the Torah?