₦airaland Forum

Preshyi:
Hello guys, I need advice please.
I am done with Uni and want to start applying for fulltime jobs in my field. However, my husband has a job offer already but yet to get COS cos of employment checks. I just have 3 months left before my Visa expires and my dilemma now is if my Visa status will be a problem if I pass the interviews. Can I explain that I necessarily dont need visa sponsorship from the Company cos I plan to switch my visa soon? Or should I wait till we successfully switch Visa before I start applying for jobs. Really confused and scared of being turned down cos of my present status.

Apply anywhere you want, but if you get to the stage where you have to show right to work, don't mention your husband level, because them go bounce you. Instead if una never apply for Tier 2 by then, mention PSW, whether or not you intend to apply for it.

Promoter2:
How about the PSW?

From the OP's comment, she is hoping her husband's COS go come soon so dem no go need to do PSW, which makes sense.

salford1:
- Taxes. Same same. Very high

Higher in some cases, lower in others. Those child benefits wont pay themselves, you know.
I think where the Canada thing works better is because most Nigerians moved through immigration programs and landed with PR, so none of this UK tier 1, tier 2 and tier 99 thing - you fit get all the child benefits, married person credits, medical payments credits (very necessary these days wey person just dey look NHS from far), etc. just like any other resident. PR in Canada pass this tier 2 waka.

But I agree that that their IRCC slow pass Home Office. No contest there.

On the other hand, Canada overall na village. .

Ritzy2022:
Good evening house. Please does anyone know any Nigerian-owned Care agency in London and it’s environs.

Gini?
You don jump from fire enter turning-pot now you wan jump inside frying pan with both legs?

lavida001:
I’m a newbie in uk with student visa. Gurus in the house what quick job can I get that will offer me 20hrs work time a week

Applying foam and pads in a care home.

teeebest:
I had believed applying for provisional drivers license on gov.uk is straight forward until now o. Any information on how I can go about it is appreciated.

I don't remember clearly, but there is an option to simply select "Outside the Uk" or "Overseas", something like that and either input an address or not and move along. Look well, it definitely wasn't a problem when I did it.

Goddys:
Please what's the name of agency that pays you £20 per hour

I'm not sure if that rate is for ordinary hospital based care.
I would think that should be for domiciliary waka, the one where you go to people's houses, which fit be wahala sometimes, all the driving and sometimes meeting strange people for house, better in my opinion to work in structured settings - hospitals/care homes where them no fit dey accuse you of anything anyhow.

ID Medical, Newcross, Medline and the rest usually were paying like £24, 26 for HCAs for Sundays, so basic rate is lower (or at least as at last year).

chukusi:
Hello guys.

i am on student visa. and my stay will expire in 3 weeks time. but my wife just got a COS for a tier 2 job with NHS. Shes in nigeria now and we have applied for her visa. biometric due in 2weeks. now as i am in the UK what link can i use to apply as a dependent. ?i cant seem to find it on thr gov website. thanks

My brother,
No vex, but you didn't google at all.
You will find the link in exactly 30 seconds if you do. It's clearly on the gov.uk page, even though Tier 2 don change name.
Try again.
Remember say they have told us that we need to up our game so that we won't be making peanuts of 22k, so that means moving to the tech industry.

Solumtoya:
I already explained this in an earlier post with Overtime and Basic rates. Basically, £22k won't let you get Overtime rates, even if you more hours elsewhere, it's still basic rate, hence, Peanuts. Again, I don't mean Peanuts as an insult o!

Off to Church, guys. I don't think I will talk on this topic again. I don tire.

There are weekend, Sunday and night rates, m'dear.
Time and a half and time and 3/4. in the NHS on the nurse bank, agencies have their own similar rates for unsocial hours.
Nobody dey craze dey waste time working basic rates all the time.

Solumtoya:
Bro, you were wrong about the clearance stuff sha. You can get a high-paying job soon after landing here and pass clearance. I did. So that was quite misleading. And students can pass the security clearance, I have a friend who did.

I think the topic can be closed now. The points are clear: be content, but always strive for more cos the job market is in a great shape now, it has never been this good for immigrants. So, don't short-change yourself especially with the rising cost of living. Citizens can comfortably take low-paying jons and be okay with it but we have a different situation and many of us aren't even entitled to State Pension, etc so we gotta be really smart! Develop yourself, get certifications, negotiate better, get side hustle, whatever it legally takes, keeping increase your finance. The old gees may not understand, na we wey just enter go hear am. But if you're on a low pay for ILR, not bad still, you have a good long-term goal, if you have a spouse, encourage them to push for better-paying jobs.

If this whole post is putting you under pressure or making you sad, check yourself, we are only sharing personal experience and encouraging our Nigerian Community.

P.S: this argument was just that £22k is peanuts COMPARED to Care not that £22k is bad in itself. I no know how we drag am reach here but e don tey we drag matter like this.

Again, to clarify, it is not.
Care asssitant pay per hour and the NHS Band 3 pay per hour are not much different if both work 37.5 hours weekly.
Both parties can work as many hours as they like (in the case of the NHS worker, either in an agency or on the staff bank), to the point of exhaustion and dropping dead if na wetin dem want, so someone working in care is not better than the person in the NHS.

sheelay:
@bolded…. I deal on this in Nigeria here. Don’t know if the reason for the term is that the first used phones were brought in from UK, same as using “Belgium used” for cars. But I can authoritatively say for a fact that 80% of used gadgets are actually from the USA. The term is always funny to me tho

CDMA or GSM phones?
For laptops and PCs, yes I would agree.

Solumtoya:
Good point. This UK, which side hustle can one do? It's a lot easier in USA and even Canada with comtainers of cars constantly going home and contribution for Mortgage being as low as 5% and then there are private lenders, etc.

Real Estate is good but most investors have a decent paying job cos it's capital intensive, moreso in Naija where Bank no send you. I've always wondered the source of those UK-used phones they sell in Naija (are they stolen?)

To be honest, I'm still looking. I know some people do all the gathering of used stuff, electronics and gwogwotigwo, and shipping back to Naija. However, I would assume that presupposes you have some sort of storage to keep them and the time to go round sales where these things are obtained, and so forth. Some dey do the bringing in food waka, etc. I also know some chaps here organised to send in a container or two of mgbuka spare parts from Germany, but again this required some networking with people there. A lot of the people in my circle dey simply use POCs in the US to container things home for sale. I was doing that as a side hustle as well before I left, familiarised myself with Ladipo well in the process.

Real estate here no easy for incomers, your deposit go high. Until you hold at least ILR. As a matter of fact, that's one unfortunate reason why one actually needs to hold down a job of sorts, try applying for a mortgage when you're calling yourself self-employed, it's a major undertaking.

Las las, way go dey, na to find am.

Lexusgs430:
Don't be a bushman, take breakfast wake your madam from bed ...........

I dey see as oyibo dey do that thing for film, but na like 1 slice of lightly browned white toast and butter them dey give themselves in the process, with a tiny cup of OJ, not better Manchester Agege buredi wey I use come back from travel with hot properly palm-oiled ewa, which is what I am planning to eat now.

Lexusgs430:
You no get pésin wey you fit fight ......... Una too like vawulence.......

I no get o...
Ngwanu, as una no wan supply current this morning, make I go dey study for my tech certification while I dey wait for my wife to wake up. Na she dey involve herself for Naija community matter, and the good thing about that is that there is usually always one drama or another going on there for entertainment value.

icon8:
Someone should please drop another controversial topic. This one don stale abeg

Our brother took too many hard punches to the head last night, so tey he become motivational speaker lmao

Abi o.
Abeg, is there nobody wey dey quarrel with their wife/husband/partner/live-in lover wey fit bring their matter come? The quarrel fit be past or present one, just table am, biko. My energy supplier don send me one interesting letter about October and how matters fit change, and I need to step down this early morning.

Ticha:
I have almost 20 years teaching experience from 3 countries. The maximum I would ever earn in the UK unless I become a school head, is about £37k. If I moved to a private school, I'd earn max 10k more for a much more greater responsibility. And a school head/ principal salary often caps out at around 60/70k as well. My starting salary was £18,300 so in 20 years even with increasing wages, this is where I top out.
There are certain sectors that pay extremely well. Majority do not. It's just what it is. It's also why the average UK wage is under £40k.

I do understand what Amara means. The fact that I'd never earn more than £37k doesn't mean that's all I have to earn or rely on.

That is a given, and that was not what she meant.
Even back in Naija, people are looking for other ways to make money outside their salaries and have been doing so for ages, let alone in the UK. We all remember during Abacha's time when salaries were unpaid or delayed or inflation-hit and economic wahala first begin affect civil servants and many of them begin enter market for the first time or started doing other things like teachers offering lessons (or lecturers selling handouts, lol). Expanding/diversifying one's sources of income is not a new thing.

Some people in the abroad may be working lower paid jobs and running side hustles too while looking to move on up. My former boss in the bank for instance, dey Canada. He got a finserv job in a bank at a lower level than where him dey in Naija when he first got there, got himself a US visa and started the whole business of buying stuff to ship back to Naija, and all that. He has now moved up in the finserv industry, has a better paying job with a credit bureau, and in our WhatsApp group last week he was discussing the certifications he's taking, we just dey exchange opinions about which ones are best for each industry, etc. And he's still going to the US to buy ship home all manner of stuff for sale, he and I put money together for one "container" (we be Igbo men na).

Money can also be made outside employment as well. Some people hustle pass their salary by miles. A perceived lack of movement on the career level might be made up for by movement elsewhere. Some people no dey even work full-time and prefer to use their time for other things, for example. I sabi person wey dey highly invested in the property business in Enugu for example, he goes to Naija frequently (or used to), buying up land here and there and building property. And he still works in an agency here. If I remember well, he came out here in 2010 or so. Naija people go think say "this one don settle for shyte salary/job for UK", while the chap dey build himself a mini property empire back home.

Everyone is different.

TheGuyFromHR:
Nwoke m,
I nwekwa efe.

Nwanne mmadu,
Biko gbaghara.
I dey usually read and jump and pass the comments wey no get head, but it was the extreme unwisdom of the "22k is shyte pay" talk that got me this time.

Me na the Nigerianophobe, and na for reasons like this wey I dey give Nigerians space, but the one thing I will always give to Nigerians is that we dey hustle well well, because we are a driven people, for a variety of reasons. Nigerian man must succeed, and even though that sometimes pushes people down the wrong path, both here and at home, I certainly don't think that the average Naija man who came here and wey dey hustle to make am for here has "settled for peanuts" because he is doing anything legit he can find to make ends meet.

Me, the Nigerianophobe o, think that is quite derogatory of our people's spirit.

The first sets of people wey come this UK as students came differently in the early 00s. Mostly (if not virtually) all bin dey single, youngish, no pikins (at least for here), ready to slap the streets and do whatever. Many don establish for here. Some didn't end up with what they and Nigerian society consider ideal in terms of work. That's life. It happens to all man. Is that settling? Who knows what everyone's story is? How they came, their backgrounds, what their skills and capabilities are, what their plans for coming here were, how do you judge people by your own standards and not theirs? It is this same mindset that brings up the "Brits are lazy people" talk, because say their government gives people benefits even though there are millions of British people out grafting hard on the streets.

This set of people wey dey come as students dey very different. The number of older people with pikins plenty. Childcare and 2/3 bedroom house rent na the main thing wey people carry as their problems. Some took loans to come with their families and are repaying. Some people don leave school years ago, but are now trying to get used to jacking again while working nights as men in their 40s, not in their 20s. I don do HCA work, I once met a couple of newcomer Nigerian guys here on a shift wey senior me (two of them bin dey discuss the 83 elections like say na yesterday) wey their talk concern wearing the correct shoes and how arch support dey important o when you're on your feet all day, discussing the different types of shoes. That one no be young people talk. Some pages back someone mentioned a sad story of how a lady dropped dead in the midst of working all hours to obviously make ends meet.

UK itself never change, even if the people coming have. Jobs dey, but there is no Father Christmas seated at Heathrow dashing wonderful jobs to people as they enter UK. You go look for the work, get used to the different interview and recruitment systems, polish up/ redo your CV, understand the environment, maybe upskill, etc. Some people are lucky/favoured in that they get something paying quite well relatively quickly. Some get it later. Some will never get their dream job. Again, that is life. It happens to all man.

Those wey siddon for internet dey rubbish our people hustling to make ends meet are part of the problem of Nigerians. It fuels the "get rich or die trying" mentality which is the flip side of our Nigerian drive to succeed which is simultaneously a very good and sometimes a very bad thing. Some weak minded people for don come here, read that kind talk, and quietly decide say starting from somewhere is not for them o, na to hit am big be the koko, and when them start to dey do anyhow as Nigerians can sometimes do, it pulls all of us down collectively.

Nigerians and expectations. Nothing wey person no go see for here.
About the NHS pay as opposed to care, first, are those saying its worse comparing like for like? Basically, how much per hour does the average care assistant earn as compared to the hourly pay rate for an NHS Band 3? In other words, make una no dey compare person wey dey work 80 hours a week in care to someone working 37.5 hours a week in the NHS on band 3. Of course, someone working 37.5 hours a week fit still work more hours, after all many nurses also work for agencies on weekends, etc.

Secondly, I no understand how people go feel say person wey dey start in an unskilled role (which na wetin carers and nursing auxiliaries be o despite all the fancy fancy titles) go suppose collect CEO pay overnight. Like most people, I definitely think that pay should go up given current inflation and the cost of living crisis, etc. but the reality is that applying foam and pads is generally not a wonderfully-paid job except where person dey work plenty hours. So wetin una wan make fresh comers do? Go and quickly take all the 50k and above jobs wey just dey wait for those who apply, abi?

Lastly, all those saying 22k na small money should tell us how much they expect to earn in that kind job in Naija. And yes, people here dey live on those pay levels. Make una understand that if you dey civil service on level 2, the pay is tailored for a school leaver aged maybe 18, early 20s and not a married man with 3 children in his 40s. The UK is certainly no paradise, but una come here because Naija no dey work for una (make we leave aside all the high sounding stuff people were yakking some weeks back about how Naija take dey better, and them just come UK to look around).

Bottom line, if person wan make better money for here, go and skill yourself in the fields in demand, then come collect the money. Aspiration is good, aspiring to be something better is a noble goal, na why people like me come here - to give my children opportunities wey I know dem no go see in Nigeria where playing field no level at all. Otherwise, make una try manage una expectations wella.

Make I leave una first go attend to one small matter. My oga just dey do one kind today, and me fit vex, leave the work and go back to Naija to see if I fit do special adviser for Soludo small, after all better work no dey UK.

Lexusgs430:
If I wanted to ...... Americawouldhavebeenmyhome........

The land of medical bankruptcy and Wait-unti-you're-dying-then-go-to-the-ED.

Amarathripple0:
Project Managers or Hiring Managers in the house. Please what are some of the tips for acing that job interview here in the UK. Any simple yet valuable advise YouTubers won’t tell us would do. Thanks in Advance.

I'll tell you some of the things the HRGuy gave me, those I can remember. I'm sure you go don do all the STAR procedure and so forth:

1. In addition to the usual research about your job role/company, etc., research about your industry and chip in things from current events where you can. For instance, in my role, I was able to find a way to bring in the forthcoming FCA regulation of BNPL providers, and the B of E's proposal to weaken affordability stress testing for mortgages (and this took us down another path of discussing house prices in the UK, which was fun because me wan buy house and it killed a lot of interview time wey them for use dey hammer me).

2. No fake accents, just speak in a modulated voice, think of those NTA newsreaders of those days, Cyril Stober and co (or in your case, the late Tokunbo Ajayi?) and just speak naturally, but enunciate slowly. Dont talk with your hands, because that usually makes one start talking faster, and when they start with "pardon", "Come again?", you're getting into deep waters.

3. If you don't know the answer to a question, nothing wrong with saying you that, or saying you haven't come across that in your current role.

4. Nothing wrong with using humour from time to time, it works. Just target it if you must do so, like when I was asked: "where do you see yourself in 5 years time", you fit talk "Well, for a start I hope I'll be seated on your side of the table making other people sweat on this side of the table", that kind thing (copied).

5. When they ask you if you have any questions for them, ask about career progression opportunities, training, etc., make e be like say you dey interested in sticking with them and will not just pack up and go in 6 months after you don mark present for your CV.

etc., etc.

As usual, no hard and fast rules, just do your best.

topellycategory:
Nawa 4 u ooh. We know say you get Pali pupa. The matter wey people don Bury na hin you still dey use style dey resurface I bow for you ooh.

Operation Expose all Nairaland Illegal Immigrants and Rwandan Owambe Guests must continue.

Sinchester:
God bless you! I hope everyone learns from the experience shared here and not follow the voice of those passing false information here. Like there's not one false information here that can mislead anyone. I laugh hard.

Going forward, there's a post pinned to the top of this thread by the able madam who brought us together here. One part of that post says "read, read, read, do your research....", something like that.

I remember the discussion on council houses/housing association properties/NRPF and all that. I read it and didn't comment simply because it seemed strange to me that people were arguing and wasting time over information that would take 5 minutes to get from an official website. https://www.nrpfnetwork.org.uk/information-and-resources/rights-and-entitlements/benefits-and-housing-public-funds/housing/housing-association-tenancies
Time is really valuable.

Again, I understand you mnight feel bitter, given your experience, but remember that that doesn't negate the usefulness of virtually all of what's posted here.

All the best to us all as we navigate this new land.

Sinchester:
Since arriving the Uk this year, one thing i have come to know or notice about Nigerians who have lived here longer is them always claiming to know everything about anything. They always claim to be knowledgeable about everything that concerns the Uk especially when they notice you're new in the UK and seek for advice on things. My brethren, be careful with these type of people. I'd say they're 90% of Nigerians here who have these traits. They'll mislead you, give you false information and leave you to your fate if it goes wrong for you. I see some of them on this thread and wont mention name. Sometimes i wonder if they do these things intentionally just to get you into some type of difficulty or problem. I am saying this from an ugly experience i just got out of and that has made me have a rethink of wanting to really join the Nigerian community. Be mindful of "some" Nigerians here who always want to claim elder and Mr know it all. Them no sabi anything and most of them who claim to have been here longer don't have papers, na pali oni pali dem dey use and trust me, you that came in via student route, work visa are way better than them. They are filled with pure undiluted wickedness. Just my 2cent though.

My brother, no vex.
But you may have been scammed by someone or misused the information you got here. That doesn't taint this forum, especially this thread.

I read this thread for almost a year before I moved to the UK and read it from time to time since. I comment when I have information to pass on, in the spirit of giving back. If you read well, you will notice that most people provide experiential information, i.e. what they have lived through and actually done.

E fit be say some people's information is out of date in some cases, when the activity in question is something they did long agao and haven't done since (there was an example of that some pages back), but that is not deliberate and is simply well-intentioned error.

I think nobody comes here to form elder, we come to help our community in the small ways we can (including the BDC guys, lol). I appreciate those who created and keep this thread going and have nothing bad to say about any of them. I would also like to think that the small info wey me don give for here is also correct and no mislead anyone, because all na my own personal experience.

I've only actually contacted one person on this thread, when I was job hunting and dealing with interviews, the OgaHR (who is exactly as he sounds here, blunt, direct and to the point, but otherwise friendly and speaks very good Igbo), and he gave me very good information, assitance and encouragement. Encouragement especially, like most people wey dey find work for this UK, sometimes the number of rejections you receive go drop your spirit. (His chilled beers/kai kai/Scottish firewater dey wait am anytime he comes to Edinburgh). From the way others come across here, I can only believe it would be the same if I contacted Madam Ticha for help with the mortgage I dey plan for instance, or Mamatukwas who is doing good work on the mamas and pikins thread, or OgaLexus for how to carry the finest London babes, etc.

Your post is fallacious, sir. Repent and correct it.
Make I return to siddon look mode.

lightnlife:
Migration is grossly a political matter in the 21st century. Understanding this helps to wave through interest blocks and sentimental policies.

The politics and hypocrisy of migration have been seen in the UK-Ukraine, Hong-Kong cases and lots more. It's all about interests and alignments.

Most of the 'Rwandan migrants' are simply irregular economic migrants and do not qualify for refugee status or asylum in the UK, having violated the principle of 'First Safe Country' as stipulated in The Global Compact on Refugees.

Irregular economic migrants/migration would always attract emotions but emotions don't inform the most logical and productive results. So, I understand the feeling you get when you see those irregular African migrants in your hood. But like you mentioned it is unfair to other Africans who have gone through the proper immigration process, plus, the sweeping generalisation and public outlook that most, if not all, black people in this country are irregular migrants and doing nothing to improve the system is also demeaning of the continent and race.

Since BREXIT, data shows that net migration into the UK has reduced. However, immigration into the UK from non-EU countries has increased. Most of the non-EU immigrants have been skilled workers and the UK has been benefitting from this.

My take: irregular 'economic' migration should be discouraged on all fronts by strict policy measures and not emotional inflexions. Even less developed African countries are constantly putting measures in place to check irregular migration, how much more developed countries.

This.
Correct man.

MrWood:
Curly hair people making noise? Really? Do nigerians not make noise? And what do you think brits think of a group of nigerians making noise?? You
would cry if you know what they think of that. Finally, you are annoyed at refugees that have the same color as you? Patriotic fanaticism to an adopted country is the height of inferiority complex. very rich of you I must say, especially coming from a Nigerian. We think of ourselves more than what we really are internationally.

Very uninformed and ill-judged comment.
Failure to read and understand shines through all you wrote.
Firstly, my comment was in response to someone else who said he's clearly against illegal immigrants, because their coming can spoil things for the rest of us who came legally, with reference to US-style extemism. I agreed with that. How you extrapolated that into "Patriotic fanaticism to an adopted country" is beyond me. That's a very biased reading of that comment, one which goes so far as to make it seem as if the writer was taking it personally.

Secondly, I clearly said (go back and read my comment, something you very clearly failed to do before jumping in with both feet) that I have much sympathy for refugees and am not very keen on this Rwandan thing, but I understand how their continued coming is not ideal, before the extremists vex and start carrying guns. All the more so when I see lots of young men standing around in groups, playing, talking loudly at the tops of their voices, ostensibly doing nothing in the middle of the day, I wish they would not make themselves so visible, because looking at it from a possible oyibo man's extremist standpoint, it is not hard to see that they would think these are illegal boat people, happily doing nothing and feeding off their taxes and chopping benefits at government expense, whether or not that is actually the case.

And lastly I dont see how you got that I as a Nigerian think I'm better than other Africans. That is utterly crazy, goodness knows where you got that from. I mentioned the fact that a lot of the young men in question appeared to be from a racial sub-group, which I as an African can identify, to most oyibos all of us are the same. I mentioned that in passing, not from any pejorative standpoint, but now you mention it, I don't think Nigerians or other African water-crossers generally stand around hanging about in the day time because they are better than other Africans, but simply because given that the average Nigerian can speak some English and many illegal immigrants turn up here because they already have some family or some connection in the UK in the first place, I think that when Nigerians or maybe others land here, they find their way into underground work sharp sharp, and something that the Eritreans or Ethiopians might not find as easy to do if their English is poor to non-existent.

Next time, learn to read before you comment. I won't discuss this further, waste of time in this case.

Alexia20:
That is even the problem, no option to choose siblings or something else after you must have chosen "Yes " to the question ,only option is to state the required relationship as " brother" .

Then go ahead and do that. I cant remember the options I had when filling my form, but I do remember that I listed my own brother who lives here.

TheGuyFromHR:
Who am I? We're all human beings who shit, piss, fart, emit the usual bodily fluids and occasionally [or frequently, as the case may be] shag and whose bodies/ashes will all rot in the ground. Nobody, but nobody's opinion is sacrosanct, everyone's entitled to one.

That said, I don't think Boris actually properly planned this Rwanda thing (of which I would have been in support if carried out), he must have known that the ECJ would step in on the basis of the ECHR to stop it, as the UK and the EU are not friends at the moment, to say the least. It's worth pointing out that the EU itself has previously sent migrants to Rwanda, so there's arrant hypocrisy and sheer politics at work here.

We are all economic migrants, true, but we came lawfully, with the consent of the UK government. Followed the rules, paid the huge monies, etc. We didnt pay tens of thousands of pounds to people smugglers, we paid it to UK universities and/or the Home Office as the rules required.

The harsh truth is that these people coming unrestrictedly are polarising the immigration debate unnecessarily, and that ultimately affects us who came lawfully as well if things go nasty. Again, in response to the assertion that the UK is not the US and people are more "civilised" here, with the way things are going in this country, extremism, which tends to flare up when economic issues arise and people become or feel poorer, may not be too far off.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10860793/More-million-foreign-nationals-offered-visas-live-UK-year.html

Not quite sure what to think about this refugee issue, to be frank, I don't really think the UK will ever send anyone to Rwanda. In Manchester when you see all those curly hair people hanging out and making noise in Piccadilly Gardens (are they Somalis abi Eritreans/Ethiopians?), I feel both sympathetic and annoyed at the same time, because while I fully understand they are refugees and have gone through a lot, but I get the feeling that oyibo dey use dem measure all black people at the same level.

I tend to agree with the bolded, but its difficult moral ground. The UK response to the Ukraine thing was obviously somehow unfair - we go take our "own" people with no stress - they opened the doors wide, dash them benefits and everything for 3 years, people come dey halla Home Office for delaying their visas, etc., etc., something that of course no other non-oyibo country fit get. On the other hand, can you really blame them for the discrimination?

Difficult conundrum.

Alexia20:
Kindly check the list marked red ,there is nothing like brother as applicable for me or uncle as applicable for my daughter ,or what do you think?

I think if you select the first option "immediate family", you might get the option to further select "sibling", because siblings are part of the immediate family.

erico2k2:
£6K for one year bross? or was it accumulative? what is his tax code when he is owing that amount
anyway nothing surprises me in this Uk anymore since a computer accused post office runners that they stole money and someone killed themselves, I gave up

And the Post Office CEO woman na reverend, o.
PO was aware all along that there were problems with the system, since so many people were all of a sudden reporting shortfalls, but they suppressed that and still prosecuted innocent people, drove them to poverty and destitution. That takes a level of cruelty that is really shocking.

Men and brethren.
I dey like watch how these arguments dey develop for this Nairaland, this is why I no fit leave Nigerians alone despite being a Nigerianophobe.

Many, many arguments ago, a poster innocently asked if na true say people dey pay tax from their first salary as her first salary was taxed and she bin think say e go reach six months before she go pay tax (Oga Charge and Bail, abi Hire and Fire HR dey call am managing your expectations as a new UK immigrant, but we digress).

A nice man informed her say lai lai, HMRC don sharpen knife wait for all man from the first salary. She said thank you and left.

Argument deviated through several zigzags, about people wey feel say HMRC don forget them as they no pay tax from the start, and eventually someone pointed out that even if HMRC doesn't take its pound of flesh from your first salary, you are liable for tax from your very first salary once you earn above the threshold.

Various people come gree say that does indeed represent the situation.

Case suppose don close for there.

We still dey here dey go back and forth, dey take HMRC name dey play.
Abeg, make we leave this matter, una no get cost of living matters to discuss? Who don notice say even Aldi don add money, for instance?

Also remember that the 12,570 personal allowance applies even if you start work in March (tax year M12), and your salary na 12,565 pounds for that month.

TheGuyFromHR:
As icon8 pointed out, you basically withheld this part from your tori.
Again, if you are earning 2k p.c.m as you say, there's no way 5 - 6 months unpaid PAYE tax will be 138 pounds.
Better hold fire on any spending plans first, HMRC fit still dey come.

Lol.
Make you no give this oga BP, HMRC letters fit make man begin see period.