AntiChristian:


Open your eyes! The context is not of Polygamy but of Divorce! I wonder why Jesus will use wives when talking about divorce!

absolutely!

YOU HAVE REALLY DONE SO MUCH FOR THESE PEOPLE. REMEMBER, EVEN WHEN JESUS WAS AROUND, THE 'BORN AGAINS', WERE THE ONES WHO CONTRADICTED HIM THE MOST.

Dtruthspeaker:


"His wife" all over the place not "his wives" or "any of his wives"!

But this evil will never hear!

So you that ignored the plain words of Nathan to david that god gave him his wives, are now resorting to insisting on plain words. fraudster like you! Ole, thief barawo shege banza!

If jesus said his wife, well that's because he understands that in polygamy, the husband is joined to his wives individually and the two are one body individually.

How do I know this is the case?

LET ME SHOW YOU!

Christian marriage is like unto the relationship between god and the church, Israel or individual christian. He went further to prove this in the songs of solomon which is basically a romantic poem between a man and a woman where the man is the image of god, and the woman the image of the church, israel or the individual christian. The story of Hosea also illustrate how the christian marriage is a mirror of the relationship between god and his born again, israel or the church. God said to Hosea: go and get married; your wife will be unfaithful in the same way my people are unfaithful and have left me (hosea 1 vs 2). Just as god who is your husband is one with you the moment he gave you his spirit when you became born again, so too is he is one with your fellow believer when he became born again. since god can be the husband of two different believers, so too can a man be the husband of more than one woman, remember, christian marriage is likened to the relationship between god and his church, israel or the born again.

AntiChristian:


If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.

Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

Stop telling lies and using emotions/curses to deceive us here!
The truth is clear from the above.

he wants to twist that which is in plain words. This is the effect of being taught the wrong thing. When they now meet the right thing, they immediately begin to invest ways to debunk it even if it means committing fraud in broad day light.

Dtruthspeaker:


An evil will always bend things in evil.way to justify evil.

THIS IS THE TRUE INTERPRETATION.

" I have exalted you high, even higher than your former master and his household and all Isreal Judah, SUCH THAT YOU COULD DO NO WRONG THING! (BECAUSE OF COURSE, THOU KNOWETH NOT TO DO ANY WRONG THING)

THEREFORE, WHY? WHY HATH THOU DONE THIS EVIL, KNOWING I HATE EVIL? EVEN UP TO MURDERING A HUSBAND BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE?, ATOP ALL THE OTHER THINGS THOU HATH DONE, YET I KEPT SILENT?"

That is the accurate Interpretation of that passage.

God did not give him wives! He gave him a Nation to Rule, to implement God's Laws on them.

But, here we see the King, being as a criminal, breaking The Same Law he promised to implement.

And we see, God Greatly Punished him

So as usual, you speak Lies and Filth.

O Lord, surely, it is time to Judge the world! That all evils be permanently cast into The Fire no man can quench.

LIAR! BIBLE SAYS ALL LIARS ARE OF THEIR FATHERS THE DEVIL!

MaxInDHouse:


The laws can't make them perfect but to guide the Israelites until the Messiah (Christ) comes, unlike Moses who presented the laws and failed to live perfectly by it.
Jesus laid down perfect principles and lived by it.
So Jehovah gave the Israelites the laws to guide them until the coming of the perfect master (Christ)

EVEN WHEN JESUS CAME, HE HONOURED AND RESPECTED POLYGAMY AS A VALID CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE. SO, WHAT'S YOUR POINT AGAIN?

MaxInDHouse:


Well no imperfect man fulfilled the highlighted that's why all polygamous homes recorded in the Bible had serious issues.
Abraham was advised by his barren wife Sarah to sleep with her slave he didn't purposely got married to another woman until Sarah's death. Isaac married only Rebecca and Jacob married Leah and Rachel due to the trick of Laban.
So none of the patriarchs purposely got a second wife!

Abraham did not have a polygamous home. He had one wife at a time and a concubine.

The truth is: the people in the bible that had more than one wife fulfilled that obligation, How did you know they did not fulfil it? because you don't support polygamy is the reason another person did not fulfil his marital obligations in to his wives?
And stop with you fruitless campaign against polygamy already. whether or not they married more than one wife willingly or not, that does not mean polygamy is not a valid marital institution. it is very much like saying a man accidentally got a lady pregnant and he then chose to marry her, therefore monogamy is bad.

your god himself said HE GAVE DAVID MORE WIVES, AND IF THAT WERE NOT ENOUGH, HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM MORE.

MaxInDHouse:


Well no imperfect man fulfilled the highlighted that's why all polygamous homes recorded in the Bible had serious issues.
Abraham was advised by his barren wife Sarah to sleep with her slave he didn't purposely got married to another woman until Sarah's death. Isaac married only Rebecca and Jacob married Leah and Rachel due to the trick of Laban.
So none of the patriarchs purposely got a second wife!

which issue did they have and show me that it is because of polygamy that they had that issue

AntiChristian:
If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.
Exodus 21:10

Yahweh makes laws protecting the First wife & previous wives here.
Note that this verse comes only 22 verses AFTER the 7th Commandment ("Thou shalt not commit adultery" in Exodus 20:14.

Moses wrote all these yet he still married two wives.

And Moses had a high holy Spirit level in Numbers 11:25

Thank you so much

AntiChristian:
Read More post on the allowance of Polygamy in the Bible on Nairaland.

1. If He Marries Another Woman..

https://www.nairaland.com/7032447/he-marries-another-woman

2. God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029702/god-said-he-gave-wives

3. The Context Is DIVORCE NOT POLYGAMY

https://www.nairaland.com/7032858/context-divorce-not-polygamy

4. Jesus Used A Parable That Includes Polygamy

https://www.nairaland.com/7029727/jesus-used-parable-includes-polygamy

5. Polygamy In Christianity- (one Flesh)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029678/polygamy-christianity-one-flesh

6. Why Did Yahweh Support Polygamy?

https://www.nairaland.com/6093345/why-did-yahweh-support-polygamy

You have done exceedingly well

LocalStandard1:
You See, I am a practical Christian. I don't practice Christianity based on what the "Pastors" say, no, but what God says.

Now that we've gotten that out the way, who can tell me explicitly where the Bible, which is the word of God, condemned Polygamy. Anyone?

The Bible condemned a lot of things we have normalized today like fornication, adultery, female "pastors", female "teachers of the word", divorce, marrying unbelievers, girlfriend/boyfriend relationships, h*mos*xuality, drunkenness, female insubmissiveness, abortions, gambling, female or male cross dressing (females now adorn trousers to church puppets), non virgin marriages, you name. But name one verse where God or his messengers talked against polygamy, which was a norm then, just one verse.

I didn't want to talk about the man, Yul Edochie, all these while cos I believe its a no brainer that it should be a private issue, but Yul Edochie is personally one of the men I have come to respect the most in Nigeria. He could have decided and say to his second wife "abort the child" just like Sammie Okposo and a lot of others in secret. But this man owned up to it, admitted it and married the second wife out of love and to give the little one a home.

Men and women are not the same and will never be. Our fore bearers have practiced polygamy for as long as mans existence everywhere around the world even in the west, until now. Yul Edochie has done very well for his live and family and I support him cos polygamy is not a sin. May be with the rate of old unmarried ladies moving about now that is what will cure the moral decadence in our society.

Has even the so called monogamy settled the issue of rampant divorce rates? He did polygamy, Ned Nwoko did it, plenty did it and they are still married. You married one and a loaf of bread has lasted longer than your union.

Yeah right!!

You give me hope that not everyone in the chirstian ummah in Nigeria are like righteousness.
keep it up.

NNTR:
Naiyjas are one of most hypocritical set of people on the face of the earth that I know of

LocalStandard, you as, a self acclaimed practical Christian, who doesnt practice Christianity based on what the "Pastors" say, no, but what God says. Now that we've gotten that out the way, please tell explicitly where the Bible, which is the word of God, condemned polyandry.

1. Would you rise to the occasion and reply or you want to call a friend?!!
2. Would it sit well with you, if your wife takes on one, two or more husbands at the same time still being married to you?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Just stop it already!
Going by the orientation given by divine revelations from the consciousness of god, Polyandry is not compatible with christian doctrine. Note that I did not say polyandry is not good or not a valid marrital institution. but that it is not compatible with christian revelation. christian marriage is likened to the relationship between god and the nation of Israel, or god and his church, or god and the individual christian, where god is the groom, and israel, the church or the christian born again, the bride.

You can find confirmations of this claims in the the story of Hosea marrying the sex worker where god explicitly said: "...she will be unfaitthful to you in the same way my people have been unfaithful to me and have left me" Hosea 1vs 2. another evidence for chrsitian marriage being a mirror of the relationship between god and israel is the entire book of songs of solomon which is a poem between a man and a woman with the man being the image of god, and the woman, Israel, or the church, or the born again whose bride price has been paid. the bible says "...you do not belong to yourself, but to god for you were bought with a price" 1 cor 6 vs 19 and 20.

having established that the chrsitian marriage is a mirror of the relationship between god and israel, the church or the individual born again, with god being the groom and israel, the church or the individual christian being the bride, we can easily see why polyandry is not compatible with christian teaching even though polyandry has its valid reasons for being in existence and is a valid marital institution equal with all the othe types of marriage be it monogamy, polygyny etc.

for those who want to bring up the invalid argument of jesus saying in the beginning he made them male and female and the two shall become one means polygamy is not allowed, you can see from the above that your understanding of jesus' words is absolutely incorrect. It is incorrect because I have shown above that it was not just one man and woman that were there at the beginning, Cain said god is sending him away from his presence and out of the land and that if anyone sees him...
clearly, the "anyone" he talked about is not his father Adam, neither is it his mother eve, or his brother, Abel, the one he had killed. It is also not the other sons and daughters Adam had since the same bible said Cain got married (he is not going to get married to his blood sister, is he) and he built a city.

No matter how numerous Adam's "other sons and daughter" are, they will not amount to 100,000 will they? So, who were the other people who cain was afraid is going to get him killed since he left the presence of god? and who are the other people that inhabited the city he built?

Also, since I already established that christian marriage is like the relationship between god and the born again, that god is your 'husband' and you are his bride, does not mean he cannot be the 'husband' of another born again and that born again, his bride.
This also does not nullify the fact that the two became one. when you accepted him as your lord, he gave you his spirit at the baptism of the holy ghost and there and then, he became one with you. That is why Paul said: "...do you not know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit, HE LIVES IN YOU..."1 cor 6 vs 19.
So, when another born again accepts him, he also becomes one with that born again as well even though he is already one with you. Peter said: "you have seen for yourselves that these people have received the holy ghost just as we ourselves have received him..." acts 10 vs 47.

Here is why the "two shall become one" jesus said, does not mean polygamy is wrong: if he could be one with you and also one with the other born again, then polygamy is perfectly in line with christian teaching since the man is the mirror of god and the woman is the image of the individual christian whose bride price has been paid. Remember, I have established already that christian marriage is the mirror of the marriage between god and his born again.

Dtruthspeaker:


When they asked Christ on marriage what was His Answer? He Said

"He made them male and female" not male and females.

No "3 shall become one 1" only 2 shall become 1

I Corinthians 7:2

first of all, to understand thatpassage the way you do, is to call Jesus an ignorant!

Fact remains that th 'Male' and 'female' talked about in geneis is not one Adam and one eve!
how do I know this?
let me show you in the very bible which you have refused to study and understand.

up until genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world. Remember, we are going by your understanding of that verse. if it was a one male, Adam and a one female eve god created. Then it means, up until genesis 4, vs 14, there were only 4 people in this world. @righteousness whatever, come and listen let me school you!
but in vs 14, which you cannot deny exists, because every dumb person with the bible can easily confirm it, Cain says: ''you are driving me from the land and away from your presence, IF ANYONE FINDS ME...''
So, the question is: who are the ''ANYONE'' he is talking about, if it was Adam and Eve only he made? nd they both gave birth to Cain and Abel? and until this verse, ONLY THE FOUR OF THEM EXISTed?
I know you have never seen it this way before even though you have read it time and time again! But just becuse you have never seen it this way before, does not mean that's not how it is, or wht I am saying here is a lie!

But that's not all!
Your bible says: and god answered him, vs 15 now, ''no, if ANYONE kills you....and so, god put a mark on him to warn ANYONE....''
Again, your god is bringing ''anyone'' up again!
So, the question still stands: who are the anyone the bible is tlking about? I thought they were suppose to be only four people until then, with the two sons, cain and abel, decended from your fvourite ''male and female'' you ave chosen to understand wrongly!
But it did mot stop there, did it?
LET ME SHOW YOU MORE!
Your bible, again, which you have chosen to wrongly understand, says: ''cain nd HIS WIFE had a son and named him enoch, then cain built a CITY''. chapter 4 vs 17.
first of all, they were suppose to be only four people up until this point, and the only here, is Eve. So, did cain marry his mother, eve? from where did his wife come? Of course, the bible says: Adam had other sons and daughters as is stated chapter 5 vs 4. But if that is true, then can we say Cain married his own blood sister?

Now, like I quoted above, the bible says cain built a CITY. Now, what is a CITY?
here are a few definitions for you to much on.

''A city is an area in which a large number of people live fairly close together'' (vocabulary.com, 2022) https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/city

''a large or important town.'' (dictionary.com, 2022) https://www.dictionary.com/browse/city

''a place where many people live with many houses and stores....'' (Cambridge dictionary, 2022) https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/city

''A city is a human settlement of notable size.''Goodall, B. (1987) The Penguin Dictionary of Human Geography. London: Penguin.

''any large town or populous place'' (collins, 2022) https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/city

''an inhabited place of greater size, population, or importance than a town or village'' (marian webster dictionary, 2022) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/city

and the BEST OF ALL DEFINITIONS IS: ''An area with over 100,000 people is called a city.'' (Urban dictionary, 2022) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=city

So, if the bible says Cain built a city, then it means he built a place with many houses and at least 100,000 lived in.
So, I ask you: if it was just a single man Adam, or a single woman eve, that were created (since that's how you fraudulently want to understand that verse), which city did Cain build? and who are the over 100,000 people that lived in that city? Are to say it is Adam's ''other sons and daughters that amounted to over 100,000 that lived in the city?

Righteousness2:
First of all, you are not a Practical Christian. You are Christian without knowledge of GOD'S Word. You are a Christian living according to your own way not GOD'S way.
You are a Hosea 4:6 Christian.

What has caused problem in humanity since creation is Disobeying GOD'S Commandments. It will always end in calamity and Disaster.

One of the greatest Folly of human is Disobeying and deceiving yourself with Reasons to do it.

Listen! Heaven and Earth will pass away but the Word of GOD. You disobey GOD, you will get the result in due time. It doesn't matter how u Deceive yourself.

Listen ! The Word of GOD supersedes Tradition
The Word of GOD supersedes the Decrees of governments of this world.
Whatever Government law that goes against the Word of GOD ( In the Bible) is null and void.

GOD'S Order of Marriage is One man, One wife. JESUS Christ, the Only way to Eternal life taught clearly GOD'S order of Marriage

Matthew 19 , JESUS clearly taught about Marriage

[b][/b]

Read Matthew 19 :1-10 ,Mark 10:1-12, Luke 16:18 and many others passages in the Bible clearly spells GOD'S order of Marriage.
If u like, you continue to Deceive yourselves as you wish. When you cross over, you will know how far. You can't say I didn't know or I didn't hear .

you know, the bible says ''I have not given you a spirit of fear, but sound mind''. But you, righteousness or whatever you are called, you do not have this spirit, and that is why you run away in fear and refuse to stand when an issue bothering on sound mindis brought up.

The Jesus saying that in the bible DOES NOT AND CANNOT MEAN THE MAN CANNOT TAKE A SECOND WIFE! Because the relationship between husband and wife is personal and not. This means, if a man married to more than one wife, he is her FULL husband, not a partial husband!

Ifeanyi4491:
Who was GOAT � in football during that year?

this goal keeper no know say na middle east him dey. see as the sheikh don already dey look am like him don commit.

HISSCRIBE1995:
The bible says

Romans 6:16
[16]Surely you know that when you surrender yourselves as slaves to obey someone, you are in fact the slaves of the master you obey — either of sin, which results in death, or of obedience, which results in being put right with God.

That is testimony of whoever engaged in masturbation .
It enslaves you , frustrates your progress
Makes you stagnant in life .

But beyond what you go through while you practice masturbation ,there is another battle to fight AFTER getting delivered from masturbation .
It is called
" WET DREAMS "

you sleep and then see yourself having sex.
Or you get pressed down by a force while sleeping .
( some call this : SLEEP PARALYSIS )
or sometimes you don't experience any of these two but the end result of those experiences most time is that you wake up to find out you've ejaculated .

And frustration sets in .

What kind of thing is this for God's sake !
I have left masturbating for good ,
then how come this is happening to me again ?
Then you pray about it and even fasted ,
And then during the night of the very day you fasted and prayed heavily ,
The thing repeats itself .

You then went on a dry fast for three to seven days .
And on the day you ended the fast ,
You ended it with WET DREAM -
a terrible one .

You spoke to people and searches for advice ,
applied them ,and the thing stopped ;
Only to happen suddenly again when you least expect .

Ho God !
I'm done !

To be continued .

Op, would you like me to get involved in this discussion and share my thoughts on this? would you be willing to give careful and honest consideration to what I have to say? I am not asking you to agree with me, I am only asking if you would be willing to giv consideration to what I have say about this issue? If you will, then please let me know, so I can come in; I am not use to getting involved in issues like this if I am not invited.

immortalcrown:
E get wetin dem never talk about the Arabic words on the Naira notes.

That is not Arabic, you bigot!
That is actually Hausa! Give it to the Arab to read it, and you will be surprised he cannot read it!
Unlike you in the south, the North had already had literate people. thry could read and write their own language. The culture of written tradition did not come with the advent of british colonialism for them, they were already writing at the time the white man came to them.

what you call Arabic on the Naira note is actually 100 nairaas the case may be in Hausa. The only thing is that it is written using arabic script.

Go and ask the Iranians who are persians but also use the Arabic script in writing. And also the chinese, they all have Arabic inscriptions on their notes.

the first picture below is the reverse side of the Chinese Yuan or the Renminbi. You can see the Arabic script on it. And this is a country where majority of them are Han without any religion.

And the Iranian? the next picture is their currency and it has Arabic script on it. Give it to the Arab and I can guarantee you that he does not know what it is! They even have english on their note even though they could easily say that English is the language of the infidels and the crusaders.

Tenses:



With the way you hate Christians I think say you for choose Israel or America.

Israel is NOT christian country! infact, it could pass off for a muslim country instead, FACT!
America on the other hand, may have a christian political base, the republican party, it is actually not a christian country, it is actually secular, a value drawn from masonic ideals, and evidence of that are many!
NB: freemasonry is a secular organization which christians have labelled satanic for ignorant, political and other reasons

komekn:


Mr Righteousness one question ❓there is man who was a King that God described as " A man after my own heart" indeed the lineage of Christ can be traced through him. Of which Christ is often called , " Son of David"

How many wives and concubines did he have please❓

The nation of Israel, God's chosen was birthed from two wives and two concubines, God's plan, what say you ❓❓

When was polygamy proscribed and or made unlawful, please dont use conjecture or assumptive probability ❓❓❓

When you have established these by purity of scripture then substantiate SIN in this regard , if you can ❓❓❓❓

If you know the word of God �� you cannot be decieved. However, if you don't, then you are already DECIEVED you just don't know it .

The guy behaves like he has got some kind of brain virus in his mind. He is the exact embodiment of the backwardness, illiteracy, poverty and darkness that is often associated with people of faith!

Most times, I just ignore the guy (to put it nicely). The only good purpose he serves here on this platform is to constantly provide the poor understanding of scriptures and doctrines that infests the chriatian church today, so that more knowledgable and wise people can have the opportunity to debunk the demonic doctrines that pervades the christian church of today, from where he, @Righteousness2, got infected with the brain virus that has made him and his father in the lord, Lazarus Muoka, the perfect candidates for hell fire!

We sometimes engage him so that the more gullible people can be freed from his satanic deception!

Kobojunkie:
[b][/b] While you are at you, you should also be aware that scripture also permits women to have more than one husband as the very same Law that allows the one to have multiple partners in marriage also allows the other to.

While polyandry is an ACCEPTABLE type of marriage all through history and in several lands and even ACCEPTABLE to me today, the arguements in favour of it ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE, NEITHER ARE THEY BASED ON THE MYSTRIES OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

Icumsa45:


He stole someone's wife actually.

That is the reason he was punished, and that is what he repented from, not the fact he married more than one wife, like those who claim the polygamy is not compatible with christian doctrine. The bible says: ''9...You have struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and taken his wife as your own. You used the Ammonites to kill him. 10 Because of that, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite as your own,...'' He then went on ahead to pronounce David's punishment. 2 Samuel 12: 9 - 10

Kobojunkie:
Open your eyes!

David was reported by God as a man after His own heart before David was anointed King by God - 1 Samuel vs 13 vs 8 - 14, this was when David was still a boy shepherding sheep out in the field. After he was anointed, however, David fell away from God on more than one occasion, but the key is David knew to repent from all the sins he committed in order to get back to God again, after each fall. If David had not done any of that, he would have ended up no different from Saul, the King before him, or like his son Solomon, who abandoned God and began worshipping idols towards his end.

By the way, Jesus Christ does not call any man as David or Saul or even Solomon was called, as Jesus Christ instead makes it abundantly clear that one has to stand faithful - living in continuous submission to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - until the end in order to be saved - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13 - so it is not possible to repent last minute and expect to enter into Heaven at the end. Only those who lived righteous lives here on earth can enter into Heaven at the end, so it is not enough to repent of your simply repent of sin to belong to Jesus Christ.

I am struggling to get you: do you include the fact he married more than one wife as one of the ways he by which he ''fell away from God on more than one occassion''?

I would appreciate it very much if you answer this question.

OkCornel:


Thanks, you understand clearly how truth evolves from unwritten to written… and how certain elements cannot be captured in writing.

Unlike those other gentlemen that think as though God wrote some books in Heaven and posted it directly to their mailbox and labelled it “the absolute and complete truth”.

More like...inspiration equals dictation.

Those are Jehovah's witnesses, don't pay attention to them.

OkCornel:


So God never revealed anything to humans before writing was invented?

God never revealed anything to the people that called upon his name in the days of Enosh (not Enoch)?

Genesis 4 v 26;
Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of the LORD.


This narrow minded assumption that truth must be written before it’s validated and complete severely stunts the spiritual growth of many.

Especially when that which they call written tradition (i.e the 66 books of the bible; because those who accept the 73 or more books of the bible, generally do not think like the people who have been disturbing you here) is a product of oral tradition passed to the catechumen in oral catechism.

Luke said it in the opening part of his gospel:
''1Dear Theophilus:
Many people have done their best to write a report of the things that have taken place among us. 2They wrote what we have been told by those who saw these things from the beginning and who proclaimed the message. 3And so, your Excellency, because I have carefully studied all these matters from their beginning, I thought it would be good to write an orderly account for you.''

Kobojunkie:
ROFLMAO

why are you laughing?
It is perfectly reasonable to ask if they still believe it 2 years on, right?
He has been coming up with the same things we have heard over time against Freemasonry.

I was watching an Oyakhilome's videoa while ago and it droped in my mind to ask this question.

So, I am wondering if 2 years on, you still believe all Oyakhs said about covid and all the other conspiracies?

@Joagbaje
@Righteousness
@donnie

do you also agree the world will end in 4, 6 or 10 years time?

RussellRutherfo:


The speech and manipulative half-ass quote of the child of the devil who wants to justify his own sin of sexual pleasure under polygamy just like Satan wanted his creator, Jesus to bow to him in Matthew 4:7 by quoting Psalms 91 to Jesus and Jesus quoted back Deuteronomy 6:16 to prove to Satan that he can not tempt his creator and God that is Jesus.

A Church Father puts in a better form that I love. Hilary of Poitiers: "Thus beating down the efforts of the Devil, He professes Himself both God and Lord."


Back to our Polygamy issue. Let me quote Luke 16:16. NLTranslation puts in a better format for us to understand properly.

Luke 16:16 NLT — “Until John the Baptist, the law of Moses and the messages of the prophets were your guides. But now the Good News of the Kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is eager to get in.

Already, Luke 16:16 proves to you that you don't even understand the scriptures neither what the Creator, Jesus said. You twist scriptures obviously. Let us hear what Jesus Christ himself said which were the original intention of God but man deviated from and God just overlooked in the Old testament convenant but in the new testament convenant. If you will strive and be eager to enter into the Kingdom of God. You must be caught doing except it's not your choice to be in the Kingdom.

There is a choice to be in hell and God can't stop you from what you actually want.

If you are to be a true follwer of Jesus Christ - the perfect one then you must follow his ethical best example for a man and a woman. As Moses writes, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24).

This marriage pattern established at creation — one man and one woman in a monogamous commitment — is both commanded and commended throughout the rest of Scripture. The seventh commandment forbids adultery — that is, sexual activity outside the bounds of marriage (Exodus 20:14). Deuteronomy forbids Israel’s future king, the ideal Israelite and new Adam (cf. Psalm , from multiplying wives (Deuteronomy 17:17). The Song of Solomon poetically unfurls the glory of marriage and sex in a way that lauds complementarian monogamy.

The New Testament follows the same pattern. Jesus, as we have seen, affirms the goodness of God’s design for monogamy in Mark 10. Similarly, the church’s elders, whose lives should serve as examples of faithfulness for all Christians (1 Peter 5:3), must be one-woman men (1 Timothy 3:2).

Finally, in Ephesians 5, Paul shows the logic behind God’s design for marriage. God didn’t institute complementarity and monogamy into the created order arbitrarily. Instead, these features reflect heavenly realities — namely, Christ’s relationship with his people. As Christ has only one bride, so marriage on earth testifies to that truth.

Do you seek to emulate the sinful life of Lamech, a polygamist descendant of Cain and the polygamy sin of Abraham who was forced by his wife, Sarah or that of Solomon or that of David who murdered a woman's husband and cried severally in Psalms asking for mercy or you want to follow the perfect example of the pure life giver and the one whom the apostles of the Church followed who were not polygamists.

You knwow, when the likes o you speak, I just laugh! you think you knw anything about the faith you claim to profess!

First of all, you make the claim that the one who wants to get married so as to fulfil his sexual desire is doing the wrong thing; HOW WRONG YOU ARE! Paul says: ''for the sake of the flesh, marry one!'' So, you can see your bible is against you!

God did not overlook polygamy in the old testament, stop telling lies and become of your father the devil! If God is not ok with it and only over looked it, he would not have said to David through the mouth of the prophet, Nathan, that ''He has GIVEN DAVID HIS MASTER'S WIVES UNDER HIS BOSSOM...AND IF THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH, HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM MORE!''

Stop calling sin, what go has not called a sin. He said David was so blameless, the ONLY sin he committed, was to have committed adultry, and not just that, he had the husband, a loyal man, killed! Here it is in the bible 1Kings 15:5
''For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not turned aside from anything the LORD commanded all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.''

Let me emphasize it again:
He said David HAD DONE ALL THAT IS RIGHT IN EYES OF THE LORD (including the faxt he had more than obe wife)... and that the ONLY sin he committed, was to have taken a man's wife from him (adultry and murder of not just any body, but an innocent and Loyal soldier! He told the soldier, go and sleep with your wife, and the soldier said: why should I when my commerades are on the battle field! Ehen the King insisted, He pretended like he had left, and slept at the door of the palace! This is the evil he committed, Not because he took another wife! Because God was the one who gave him those wives).

Let me remind you what the lord said about those who add to the bible: He said he who adds to this, god will add to him, the plagues described in this book! so, be careful not to say what God has not said in the bible!

I woukd have love to respond to this post of your to even a greater detail, but I have committments.

Just to drol another point: Lamach was not Sinful! He raised a home that produced people who were acomplished in their careers! The bible says one of his sons is the father of those who made tents, while another one was also established. if there was no holy spirit in his house, how then was that possible? without peace, there would not have been a good atmosphere to produce people that established in their chosen careers! Jesus is the prince of peace, hence lamach had jesus! Don't call anyone sinful when your God has not called him so! be warned! Bible says: thou shall not judge, elae, you will be judged!

GistFullGround:




Deuteronomy 17:17
17 Neither shall he multiply a wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly b multiply to himself silver and gold.


Who are you to judge?
The man wants a second wife because he feels he can
Why do you think "that his heart turn not away" in future?

You should be humble to "cure your madness"...

Matthew 5:17-20
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or[b] the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


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Thank you so much for standing up to ignorance propagated from the pulpit by ignorant pastors to their congragation.

Also, you should also have pointed it out to him that the scripture he refered you to is actually against his stance. If that passage Deut17:17 is to be understood as god prohibiting polygamy, can we also say that God is against making money since the remaining part of verse says DO NOT MULTIPLY GOLD? HEHEHE
SO, when will they stop preaching prosperity, sell off all their private jets and stop ''multiplying gold''?

That man you responded to quoted a scripture he does not understand.

cornelboy:

Lol. You are very unreasonable.

Your dead gods sustained your ancestors by allowing them get exploited and enslaved by the whites.

The gods are to be blamed nah. They were not intelligent enough to develop your ancestors. The whites came and easily outplayed and outsmarted both your ancestors and their gods.
Keep worshipping your dead gods na

You should just shut up already and stop embrrassing yourself any further!

If there is any god that is the heavyweight champion allowing its people to be enslaved, it is Jehovah and the 'holy' sprit. The bible is infested with stories Jehovah's people being carted into slavery and sold like cheap item in the market! If Africans being enslaved is the tell-tale sign that their god is dead, then the Hebrews being carted into slavery, and the unfortunate eventualities befalling christians including you, cornelboy, is an indication that your god is not only dead, but never existed in the first place!

Our ancestors, like everyone else, were developed for their time and within the limit of what they knew!

And who told you your god developed Europeans? Hehe! You should take my advice and embarrassing yourself!

Jehovah, the supposed creator of the world, presided over a people and yet, they lost their way in the desert wondering from one place to the other for 40years, in a journey that could have taken them just 40days! Hehe!

If you do not know, Europeans started developing the way they are now, when they turned away from Jehovah! The people on whose knowledge their civilization is built were thrown into jail by christians, of whom was said are the ''light of the world''. Of course, we all know they are the DARKNESS OF THE WORLD because if that was not the case, they would have been able to see the truth the likes of Gallileo was trying to out forward before them and not put him in jail!

Israel today, does not even believe in Jehovah anymore! They do not attribute their current sophistication to your god, but to, in the words of the Israeli prime minister Naftali Bennett, ''debate''. He said here, that ''debate is the power of innovation, not Jehovah, like Nigerian chrisians like the likes of you, cornelboy, wrongly believe. Watch it here at the 6:50 - 7:00 min of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRlxdoI9-UU&t=363s

cornelboy:

Okay na.

isn't it true? You are acting like it is not true!

HISSCRIBE1995:


Do you rush to comment without carefully going through the write up ?

I think you should read again -because you seems to be saying what has already been dealt with in the post itself .

Read before commenting please .

Nothing I said have been addressed in the OP

cornelboy:

No wahala stick with your proven dead gods while I stick with the God of the Jews.
Only the book He inspired has all the answers to life questions.

Why didn't thunder paralyse the white men when they first set their feet on our land?

Your gods are blind, lame and in oblivion

A god that watches its general overseers pillage the congregation, does not answer your prayers etc, is the real dead god.

HISSCRIBE1995:
Please be patient to read this to the end if you are a christian because it include a urgent message for you .
Thank you for you patience .

recently I just watched a clip on YouTube where some Muslim guy was doing their kind of proselyting called " dawah " ,and he had some items : copies of the Quran ,mats ,and probably some others stuffs which was intended to be gifted to people .

But what caught my attention most was were he said the gifts came from -
They were gifts from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia brought to the united kingdom to sponsor the growth of Islam. It is very common to find people from muslim families to go in the UK and elsewhere in Europe to become 'westernize' and Islam is declining in their minds as well.

Yeah we do the same in Christianity too
(I know ) . we do send missionaries to other nations to win the people there too .
But my concern is that : the people who were been ministered to look or sounded like they don't know anything about the gospel of Jesus Christ .

There is a high tendency to think that a person living in the united kingdom must in one way or the others be acquainted with the gospel ; but surprisingly some of theses guys seems not to know much or even nothing reasonable about the gospel in a country that would easily be perceived as a Christian nation ( I'm not saying it is though ).

There are documentaries out there about how Christianity is gradually declining in Europe; paganism ,Islam and atheism are advancing and making miles .

This is simply a sign and an indication that something is wrong , something is happening ,and something important is missing among the European Christian populace .

So I would like us all to be at alert and in the know with this predicament ,and danger that could possibly lead to the extinction of the Christian faith in Europe ,and even the entire west.

We must do our best,and play our path as fellow believers, as brothers-keepers , as a people who are seeking the lost sheep among the wild.

Please if you are a Christian I beg you on God's behalf to include these western nations in your prayers of intercession ,and to reach out to them on all the social media platforms
That you belong to ;
preach the gospel to the lost, re-establish the backsliders ,strengthen the weak .
comfort the brokenhearted , give to the needy ,and re-assure the hope of salvation to the faithful.
Please see to it that you intercede for these people ,and also evangelize to them .
God is your strength ,boldness ,courage ,and supplier of grace .

Thank you very much for reading this write up though it is a long one.
May God bless you abundantly in Jesu's name .
Amen .

How is christianity declining in Europe a bad thing?
If Islam is growing, it is not because the locals are converting to it, but because there are people coming from muslim majority countries into the UK and elsewhere in Europe.

If Christianity can confidently go into another country and drive out the indigenous religions or any other religion from a particular land, why isn't it ok for sonething else to go into traditionally christian lands to drive out christianity?