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Religion / Re: "RCCG Stands By You" - Pastor Adeboye Backs Israel by MiddleDimension: 8:24pm On Oct 12, 2023
Rossikk:


You are very stupid. What the hell do you mean by “a terrorist nation”?

There are 2.6 million people in Gaza, including over a 1.2 million children.

In your block head they’re all terrorists including the babies?

The level of idiocy on this forum is alarming.

Also, the most diagusting thing is them calling Hamas the initiator of the war the same way they are calling Putin the aggressor even though he has been warning Nato forever about respecting Russia's security concerns about Nato expansion.

What did they expect Hamas to do? Israel has been occupying their land forever and they not only keep frustrating any attempt to make peace, but they keep building Hebrew settlements in occupied territories! What do anyone want the Palestinians to do if not take up arms? They pick-up arms and then they are call them aggressors! Apartheid in South Africa did not even last as long as the apartheid in The west bank and Gaza is lasting.
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 9:40pm On Oct 08, 2023
GreenandGold:
Who else thinks Netanyahu is behind this war?

......it feels very off...

why would anyone take such extreme measures and kill his own people in order to boost his popularity9
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 10:18pm On Sep 24, 2023
Incase there is anyone passing by and wondering where that man above me...is it @Dtruthspeaker they call him? Well, if you are wondering where in the bible he is referring to, here is it.

“And this is what the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I made you king of Israel and rescued you from Saul. 8I gave you his kingdom and his wives; I made you king over Israel and Judah. If this had not been enough, I would have given you twice as much.

Read it for yourself and see if that thing he made of it is a plausible interpretation.

Well, this is not surprising to me as the way he behaves is how lies make the liar bahave.

Their Jesus, who is their lord and god says: "...that you shall know the truth..." There are only a few things their lord and god wished for them and the truth is one. So, one would have thought that christians like dtruthspeakerdfiufbo will be so truth oriented that although he may not know all truth, no one knows all truth anyway, but when in a discussion where truth is the goal, he would be the most welcoming of all ideas and judge each on their merit, shunning the evil urge to dangle around and shit on the discussion because the facts are stacked against him and he is afraid of beholding truth in all its beauty.

The bible says in acts of the apostles chapter 17 vs 11. that the people who were more open minded than the people in Thessalonica, they listened with great eagerness. And because of that, they could see the truth of the matter. So, this is the hallmark of those who are open or fair-minded and also truth oriented: that they listen with eagerness and are not filled with negative feeling and as a result, do not, like this man dtruthspeakermnjhvbs, deliberately misinterpret scripture in ways they do not even agree with because they know that they are being dishonest. Its not like that they do not know, but that they KNOW THEY ARE NEING DISHONEST!

If the facts makes you feel bad, then change your feelings, and do not shit on the facts
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 8:05pm On Sep 24, 2023
To buttress my point that the Christian God, Jehovah the father of Jesus, is 'polygamous' hence he knows that when a man, who is his own figure in the household, he can have more than one wife and nothing divine or holy will be violated, lets look at Ezekiel 23.

It says: "The LORD spoke to me. 2“Mortal man,” he said, “there were once two sisters...the older one was named Oholah (she represents Samaria), and the younger one was named Oholibah (she represents Jerusalem). I married both of them,..."
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 5:37pm On Sep 23, 2023
vdestro:


The Law of one man, one wife is for man and applies to man.

It can not and does not apply to man's Maker/Law Giver and Lord whom Jesus is to us.

If the 'law' as you call it is for god and god alone, why then did he give David more wives when he was actually married? 2Sam 12 vs 8

He gave David more wives because he knew that just as he can be the husband of more than one individual, so too can man be the husband of more than one woman.
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 5:30pm On Sep 23, 2023
SuperSixSeven:


Uniform No 4 was originally tailored to be worn with a "Sam Browne" belt. The decline of this country in all conceivable aspects began noticeably with Sani Abacha.

It would have been better with the belt. But without the belt? It looks ugly.
Religion / Re: I See Another Reason Why God Mostly Speaks To Men. Girls Are Satan's Seeds by MiddleDimension: 5:28pm On Sep 23, 2023
Dantedasz:



You are a sick person. You need to check yourself in to a rehabilitation center with this mindset. I really pity any woman that settles down with you thinking she has found a partner.

you can see what I have been dealing with

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 3:49pm On Aug 29, 2023
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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 3:32pm On Aug 29, 2023
@all

Please tell me what you think about this uniform. I think they call it No 4.

I actually find it ugly and unbefitting of our service men. Also, the very fact I have not seen it on officers in other parts of the world, makes me wonder why our men and officers in all the military and paramilitary services wear it.

What's worse, it appears to be so common among our officers.

@SouthAfricans

Do your officers wear this? Can you show me pictures of officers in other part of the world wearing the same thing?

I think the worst of them all is the army's because of the colour.

Aside this particular uniform, all the others are fine, in my opinion.

Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 10:14pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


A word they say is enough for the wise. And the God gave us 2 Words. Twice did He. Say on marriage "male and female created He them".

A word is usually enough for the wise, how then more, 2

where are you quoting from? let me see
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 9:54pm On Aug 21, 2023
vdestro:


All of these are just a repetition of your post to dtruthspeaker.



A repetition that is necessary because you chose to ignore it completely!

vdestro:
They do not answer your assertion that the Bible disagrees with my statement to wit that the law of one man, one wife applies to man and not his Creator.

of course, they do.

In that post, I showed CLEARLY that the relationship between god and the individual soul is the same as the marriage between man and his wife.

I also showed that just as God can be husband to as many people that may receive him, so too can the man be husband to more than one woman at the same time! I proved it already! And because God knows this very well, is the reason he did not have a problem with giving David more than one wife! And the fact he did that, is the reason we can agree that polygyny is not something he just permitted but did not really agree with, like many of you would say.

2 sam 12:8
"This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says....I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms.''
The[b] identity[/b] of the person speaking, Lord, God of Israel, was mentioned. What He did, I gave you your masters wives, was also clearly mentioned. At this point, it looks like if you had your way, you would have loved to go back into the past and expunge this from the bible! You and your partner honestly wish this not there in the bible! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 9:39pm On Aug 21, 2023
vdestro:


You verily got it. smiley

That man is bound by his Creator's Law which does not bind his Creator.

So your bringing in greater things does not counter the Law.

For the issue is not about greater things but that the Law of the Creator to His creation does not apply to Him

Why have you refused to show us in the bible where god OPENLY gave man the 'law' to not marry more than one wife. Are you agreeing there is no such thing in the bible! If there is, provide it already, and stop beating about the bush.
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 8:10pm On Aug 21, 2023
vdestro:


Simple!

The Law that applies to man (creation) does not apply to his Creator.

Which is why you can order your phone not to accept any other user save you and it is bound to do your will or suffer the consequences.

But you are not bound by that Law.

Thus you can have as many phones as you please, showing the truth of this assertion.

Christ Himself proved the Law by walking on water, causing a tree to wither and die just by speaking to it, amongst other things, no creation has ever done.

The bible says: ''Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these...'' John 14 vs 12.

What's your point again?
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 3:08pm On Aug 21, 2023
Lurker4Long:
OFF-TOPIC

GreenandGold, Jl115, almost forgot: cool

I have been energy secure for a week now. On the weekend, in winter with 95% cloud cover, I was still producing 5 times my daily consumption.
From November 01, I become an "independent power producer", as I'll start selling all the extra power generated to the City of Cape Town!

Why don't you bring this to Nigeria and make a business out of it? You will become rich over night, even richer that the Openheimers and the owners of your largest minerals company

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Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 3:04pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


While waiting for Daestro to make his case i address proposition2 "''It (monogamy) CANNOT an DOES NOT apply to man's maker...god or jesus etc.

When you command your children to go to bed by 9pm does that apply to you? Or when governors said during covid that no one must move in their state, did it apply to him and stop him from going out?

I mean this thinking here in bold.
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 3:01pm On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


The Bible is all about our natural life and natural living hence my response. I don't care what thinkings catholic, jws,.orthodox or pentecostals hold.

[b]I only care what the bible says [/b]and how i can decipher and understand its deep messages, that is what i am all about.

Then give me a bible evidence to back-up the thinking you expressed here below.
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 8:13am On Aug 21, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


While waiting for Daestro to make his case i address proposition2 "''It (monogamy) CANNOT an DOES NOT apply to man's maker...god or jesus etc.

When you command your children to go to bed by 9pm does that apply to you? Or when governors said during covid that no one must move in their state, did it apply to him and stop him from going out?

I said ''from the bible, since it is your ultimate authority; or from both the bible and sacred tradition, if you are a catholic or an orthodox christian''. Also bear in mind on chriatianity, what is refered to as orthodox churches is not what pentecostals in Nigeria call orthodox churches.
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 12:21am On Aug 21, 2023
vdestro:


No mind the ole two wives.

He said Bible disagrees yet he did not say how, i am interested in the how.

when I quoted you as can be seen in the attached screenshot below, you said verbatim: ''The law of one man one wife, is for man and applies to man...it CANNOT and DOES NOT apply to man's Maker/Law Giver and Lord whom Jesus is to us''

First of all, you made two propositions there: ''the law of monogamy IS for man and APPLIES to man''. 

The other proposition is: ''It (monogamy) CANNOT an DOES NOT apply to man's maker...god or jesus etc.

It is important to note here that you have not given an evidence for these bogus claims of yours! Why did you say that? Every claim DEMANDS an evidence

I will say that again:

Every claim demands an evidence!!

One more time:
EVERY CLAIM DEMANDS AN EVIDENCE!!!

So, provide evidence to back up those claims you have made in proposition 1 and 2.

Since we are talking christianity here and the bible is your sole and absolute canon for morals and doctrines,【except if you are a catholic or from any of the orthodox churches. NB: deeper life, CAC, Baptist, Cele, and C&S, are not orthodox churches, they are Pentecostals. Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian etc, are also not orthodox, but Protestant. The term Orthodox churches do not mean what you ignorantly call it here in Nigeria】give a reason from the bible or from the bible and sacred tradition, if you are a catholic or orthodox christian, to prove those bogus proposition of yours!

Now, to answer your question about how the bible disagrees with you.

My brother, I have already done it in the post you quoted and told me the marriage between a man and a woman IS NOT  a mirror of the marriage between you and god.

That post of mine was basically saying that the dynamics of christian marriage man and woman including among other things, the number of spouses a man can have and that which a woman can have, is a mirror of the relationship between god and Israel, Jesus and his church, or Jesus and you, the born again. After all, are you not the same ones who always insist on having a ''personal relationship'' with god?

What is my evidence for saying the marriage between a man and a woman is the same as the marriage between god and his church? 

Let me show you!

I will repeat what I quoted in that post again and let me let the independent seeker of truth be the better judge.
So, once again, What is my BIBLICAL EVIDENCE for saying the marriage between a man and a woman is a MIRROR of the marriage between god and his church? 

1. God's instruction to Hosea:
Hosea was instructed by god to go and take a wife and let their relationship be a reflection of the relationship between god and his people Israel. Your bible says: "When the Lord first spoke to Israel through Hosea, he said to Hosea, 'Go and get married; your wife will be unfaithful, and your children will be just like her. In the same way my people have left me and become unfaithful.” Hosea 1 vs 2.

2. The Book of The Song of Solomon
The Book of the Song of Solomon is basically a book with two people: a man and a woman singing love songs to each other. Now even though it contains pornographic contents, It is still found among the canon of scriptures which you call the "word of god". contents like:

"take me away with you—let us hurry!
Let the king bring me into his chambers.

13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breasts." Song of Solomon 1 vs 4 and 13.

 "Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle


16 Awake, north wind,
and come, south wind!
Blow on my garden,
that its fragrance may spread everywhere.
Let my beloved come into his garden
and taste its choice fruits."
Song of Solomon 4 vs 5 and 16

''Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine,

the fragrance of your breath like apples,
9 and your mouth like the best wine. Song of Solomon 7 vs 7-9 and so on.
The book of the song of Solomon is so pornographic, it is hardly read in church.

So, why is pornography found in the 'word' of a supposedly holy god?

The Jewish Theory
In Qabbalah, Jewish mysticism, the book of the Song of Songs is seen as a dialogue between god and Israel and that the aim of the book is not to pàss a sexual or erotic message. It is often said that the expression of love between the man and the woman is just a mirror of the love god (the man) has with Israel (the woman) (Loprieno, 2005, P107; Sara et al, 2007)

The Christian Theory
In much the same way too, the christian church did the same thing the Jews did with the Song of Solomon but this time instead of seeing the woman as Israel, the church sees itself, or the individual christian as the woman. So, its excuse for letting a pornographic content into the word of a 'holy' god, is that it could be seen as an allegorical representation of god and the church, or god and the individual christian where god is the man and the church or You @vdestro, is the woman (Alfred, 2003). The famous 3rd century christian, Origen, in his "Homilies on the song of song", aired the same idea. Origen, by the way, was heavily influenced by the teachings of Clement of Alexandria, a disciple of Peter, the one whom Jesus told to feed his sheep (Chapman,1908).

3. Ezekiel 16 vs 8-14 Good News Bible.
Here, it can clearly be seen that the relationship between god and Israel is likened to the marriage relationship between a man and a woman. verse 8 of Ezekiel 16 says: "As I passed by again, I saw that the time had come for you to fall in love. I covered your naked body with my coat and promised to love you. Yes, I made a marriage covenant with you, and you became mine.” This is what the Sovereign LORD says.


4. Isaiah 54:5
“For your husband is your Maker,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,
Who is called the God of all the earth.''

But what about the new testament? does it also indicate that the marriage between a man and a woman is a mirror of the relationship between god and his church or the individual christian?

Let me show you!

5. 2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin.

6. Revelation 19:7-9
Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. Then he *said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’” And he *said to me, “These are true words of God.”

7. Revelation 21:2
And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

These verses and the many more I cannot give here due to time, prove beyond reasonable or christian doubt that the marriage between a man and a woman IS A MIRROR OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL, JESUS AND THE CHURCH, OR GOD/JESUS AND THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL. Whoever disagrees with me should present his position together with EVIDENCE, BIBLICAL OR OTHERWISE, and show that they are superior in revelation to the ones I have given here.


having proved that relationship between god and israel, jesus and the church, and god/jesus and the indivual soul/christian is the same thing as the marriage between a man and his wife, Can we now proceed to proving that just as god is the groom of you @vdestro, he can also be the groom of the dtruthspeaker, Oyakhilome, Adeboye, etc, all at the same time, a man can also be the groom of more than one wife at the same time.

First of all, if all of the places where the relationship between god and man is compared to the marriage between a man and a woman, god is the one who is ALWAYS PRESENTED AS THE MAN, while the individual or the church is the one that is always presented as the woman. I am not the one making this up, it is your bible and any other relevant source that is saying it. Therefore, do you direct your arguments at me, do it with your bible.

Paul was talking to the individual christians that make up the church in Corinth here when he said in 2 Corinthians 11:2 that "For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin.

The "you" Paul mentioned there, is refering to the individuals in the church of corinth. Do you, @vdestro, disagree with this too? Because god knows that this also means that a man can have more than one wife and that has not broken anything holy and divine in his sight, is why HE HIMSELF GAVE DAVID MORE THAN ONE WIFE. Or you would like to deny god himself gave david his wives? Here is the biblical prove:

Nathan said to David. “And this is what the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I made you king of Israel and rescued you from Saul. 8 I gave you his kingdom and his wives

This has sufficiently answered your question. If you have an objection, you can present it and show that your proposition is superior in revelation to the ones I have given herein.

By the way, please do not fail to respond to those propositions of yours I pointed out.

I have given you the courtesy of responding to your demand of showing you how the bible disagrees with you; you should now give me the same courtesy I have given you, by giving evidence for your propositions 1 and 2. the evidence can come from sacred scriptures or sacred traditions, if you are a catholic, which I do not think you are seeing you used the expression "the law of..."

References:
1. Chapman, Henry Palmer (1908). "Pope St. Clement I" . In Herbermann, Charles (ed.). Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 4. New York: Robert Appleton Company.

2. Loprieno, Antonio (2005). "Searching for a common background: Egyptian love poetry and the Biblical Song of Songs". In Hagedorn, Anselm C. (ed.). Perspectives on the Song of Songs. Walter de Gruyter. ISBN 978-3-11-017632-2

3. Japhet, Sara (2007). "Rashi's Commentary on the Song of Songs: The Revolution of Prashat and Its Aftermath" (PDF). Rashi: The Man and His Work: 199.

4. Norris, Richard Alfred (2003). The Song of Songs: Interpreted by Early Christian and Medieval Commentators. Eerdmans. ISBN 978-0-8028-2579-7.

@joagbeje @donnie what do you think?

@CJstarz what do you think about this discussion @Phemmyfour @Eyinju112

Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 6:19pm On Aug 16, 2023
LocalStandard1:

The last time I said I respect someone here he twisted the narrative to make it sound like I said an abominable. But Still, I respect you too for your consistency on God's issues.

But let us not misquote the words of God to fit our new found believes or fear. You never gave me any proves where God rejected polygamy. Polygamy used to be a norm in the old days but the fact you have no prove, no verse to dispute and discredit the practice from the Bible says it is not an abomination in the eyes of God.

God and Messangers talked about even the most little ills of people but polygamy as widespread as it is does have one verse condemning it?
"Male and Female he created them" has nothing to do with polygamous marriage.

I thought I was the only one who saw his evils of turning around narratives.

please look below to find where we started off.

From the first screenshot, you can CLEARLY SEE that he, like most christians, is the one who is oblivious to the TRUTH that there were more than just adam and eve in the beginning hence he quoted jesus again and said he made them male and female, not male and females. If he is the one who is aware from the outset that there were also other people aside just adam and eve, he would not have quoted jesus again to buttress his point that gos is only in support of one man, one wife. He would not have taken jesus literally!

Because I have been aware for a very long time now that adam and eve were not the only ones at the very beginnning, is the reason why I am not the one who tried to take jesus literally, but him!

But what do we have he is trying to turn the whole disscussion on its head and say that I am the one who is oblivious to the fact that its not just adam and eve who were there at the very beginning, but other people as well.

You know, in all of my discussions with born agains, I have come to realize that there is hardly any people in the world that have this sort of aversion to truth. This is ironic by the way, considering the fact that it was jesus' earnest wish that ''they'', believers, ''shall know the truth...'' there are very few things jesus wished for them one of which is the truth. But here they are having an embareassing level of aversion to truth!


By the way, here is the link to the place where we started and you can see for yourself. please check it before he going there to fruadulently edit that post, there by erasing the evidence. He is capable of doing that since he tried to turn a discourse on its head in broad day light.

you can even screenshot it so that not just one person will have the evidence.

https://www.nairaland.com/7497295/did-bible-condemn-polygamy-yul#119457969

Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 5:45pm On Aug 16, 2023
vdestro:


The Law of one man, one wife is for man and applies to man.

It can not and does not apply to man's Maker/Law Giver and Lord whom Jesus is to us.

says you even though your bible disagrees.
shior!
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 5:44pm On Aug 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


So now you see you are wrong about "genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world.".

Ok so now i return to the main issue of the thread.



First, He Said, male and female and not one man and one woman.

Secondly, is there any other class of human being beyond being male or female that forms part of the "ANYONE" that Christ did not take cognisance of existing at that time? Eh?

See, bad thinking, bad product.



Wrong! This is you imposing a belief you think is my belief. And clearly if you contend the origin of man as recorded by the bible, there isn't any way your assessment will not be corrupted by your disagreement which is already showing.

So.you already have issues. But below is the crux of your argument. And a good one
But i was waiting for someone to go there.



And this is where if your mind was not corrupt you would have seen why this marriage is not wrong.

Why?

Because of the absence of sin and wrongs, both present and future.

None of the parties to that marriage is complaining nor shall be complaining nor shall ever complain.

When you Look at the rights of all the parties to tbat marriage, not one of them is violated or violatable.

Thus, this marriage is exactly like the one people already do when they marry to do business aka Ltd, GtE and unlimited companies and partnerships as registered in Corporate Affairs Commission.(CAC).

But, there isnt any wife, with her full senses and will, who will ever permit you to marry another woman exactly how you will never permit her to marry another man. The Law of do unto others what you want done unto thee.




Mtchew
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 10:10am On Aug 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Examine yourself and see if you are not the deceiver.

You said"...up until genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world."

Now you admit that there were "other people. who were elsewhere".

Are now not the deceiver?

The Law is he who alleges must prove. So when you accuse our beliefs you must be ensure that you sucesfully and reasonably prove your accusations. You just don't go.accusing a person or a doctrine simply because you do not like it.

Again, I am responding to you for the benefit of other people and also of you yourself when you decide to stop being hell-bent on defending a belief that is just plain lies, and start being concerned about what's true!

The whole idea that jesus was limiting the number of wives one can marry to only one with that verse ''in the begining, there was only man and woman...and the two become one'' is just plain wrong!

It is wrong because it implies that Jesus was ignorant of the truth that in the beginning, there were not just only one man and one woman. This is very clear in the bible when Cain said: ''when ANYONE sees him, they will kill him''.

Your likes, before I pointed it out to you, have always believed the genesis story is literally the correct version of the origin of man, and so believe that Adam and Eve were the first and only two people god created. This is where your belief that a man should have only one wife comes from. In addition to that, you also believe that every human being on earth are a decendant of Adam and Eve, including the ''other people'' Cain was afraid might find and kill him.

But I am saying no, that idea of yours is wrong. And of course, Jesus said in the beginning, god made them male and female; but that is not to say a man is meant to marry only one woman and that's it. Also, no, polygamy does not violate the ''...and the two shall become one'' that jesus said. How do I know this? Let me show you!

You bible always liken man and woman marriage relationship to the relationship between god and israel; christ, the groom, and the church, his bride. He also likens the relationship between god or christ and the individual born again. Your bible reports that your god told Hosea to go and marry a woman, and their marriage relationship is going to be a reflection of the relationship between god and israel. The book of the song of Solomon is included in the canon of the scriptures despite it having what could be described as pornography, simply because the man and woman singing love songs to one another, can be regarded as god and Israel, christ and his church, or christ and the individual christian. Paul is another person who likens the relationship between a man and his wife to that between god and the individual christian. He said ''just as christ is the head of his church, so too is the man the head of the woman''.

Now, since I have ESTABLISHED that the relationship between the man and the woman is always likened to the relationship between jesus and the individual christian, it is now obvious how ''the two shall become one'' is not violated by polygamy.

When you, Dtruthspeaker, accepted to ne married to jesus and he became your husband while you became his wife, another person could also accept the same jesus and when he does so, jesus becomes that person's husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE, even as he still remains your husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE! The two of you, jesus and you, became ONE when you accepted him as your lord and saviour just as he becomes ONE with your brother in the lord when he accepted the christian faith. This is all in line with the teachings of the bible when it said: ''whoever is united with the lord, is one in spirit with him''. 1 Cor 6:17 and similar passages.

@joagbaje @donnie what do you think about this?
Religion / Re: If He Marries Another Woman... by MiddleDimension: 9:17pm On Aug 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Polygamy began with a killer called lamech in the Bible but the standard God set (in the beginning) is ONE Adam ONE Eve! smiley

Faith is associated with a warlord, Abraham; amd your biggest brother in the lord, Paul, is a bounty hunter! How about that?
Religion / Re: Did The Bible Condemn Polygamy And Yul Edochie's Second Marriage? by MiddleDimension: 9:02pm On Aug 15, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously are a stark raving mad man else you would have seen that Genesis 4:1-14 is just simply reporting an incident between 3 People. And it goes on to show that other people male and female were there, so you are taking complete madness which is grounded by your madness of insulting a person. (I suspect you are still antichristian hiding under this moniker. Same type of madness and insult and absence of ordinary understanding because of the mad blindness of being a devil)

For the sake of other people here who are devoted to understanding and insight; and also for your own sake if, in the future, you decide to turn away from your current self, which is just being hell-bent on defending doctrines, which are false by the way, and then start being devoted to knowledge, understanding and insight, I am going to respond to your very weak point which is steeped in an embarrassing level of ignorance.

You need to stop your self-deception already!
the ''other people'' the bible talked about, were not ''there'' like you said. They were elsewhere hence, he would have to perambulate around to run into them.

Notice how the bible reports what Cain said and you will realize that the ''other people'' he said will kill him when they find him, are not people with whom he is acquainted, not even in the slightest way; they are an entirely DIFFERENT people!

Cain said: ''This punnishment is too hard for me to bear. You are driving me off the land and away from your presence. I will be a homeless wanderer on the earth and anyone who finds me will kill me'' Gen 4 vs 13-14.

Remember, he is being sent off the land he is familiar with; the same land he probably was born on and had his up bringing.

And then god is sending him away from that land. If the sending away is going to be a punnishement, then it is definitely going to be a land he is unfamiliar with, a land which will present challenges he doesn't know how to deal with including which crop to grow to provide food or how he is to grow that crop!

pay attention to him again. He said: ''i will become a homeless wanderer...'' which means he is going to be perambulating aimlessly and in the course of his wandering, he may run into a settlement consisting of ''other people''. These people are truly ''other people'' and completely unrelated to him hence he did not call them ''my relatives'', but ''other people''.

This is very much like how you can venture into bush where there is nothing except grass and trees and no aingle footpath, but if you continue, you may run into a Fulani settlement whose members are completely unrelates to you! This is exactly what the bible was talking about in that Cain passage.

@joagbaje @donnie what do you think?
Fashion / Re: Natasha Joubert - The New Miss South Africa 2023! (PICS) by MiddleDimension: 11:49am On Aug 15, 2023
WannaHowzit:
Those pained in the bum by my threads have the choice and freedom not to enter my threads. Just as I don't watch BBNaija🇳🇬 on our DSTV🇿🇦. You don't hear us complain endlessly. Shalom.

Is BBNaija shown on your DSTV?
To be honest, I really admire your country and the work it has done all across Africa especially on the economic front. Keep it up!

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Politics / Re: El-Rufai Absent At His Son, Bello’s Wedding (Photos) by MiddleDimension: 11:39am On Aug 15, 2023
Harrynight:



Like Seriously 😳



Jealousy
Politics / Re: El-Rufai Absent At His Son, Bello’s Wedding (Photos) by MiddleDimension: 8:40pm On Aug 13, 2023
Harrynight:



Small boy taking a second wife when the first wife is still there Hale and hearty and all these f o o l s attend to support this Ru BB ish.

Can't they advice him to responsible, control his preeg and stick to one wife?

Jealousy!
Romance / Re: Are Nigerian Women Really Against Polygamy? by MiddleDimension: 1:16am On Aug 07, 2023
VinnyBaba:


Your Take on the Topic is Great!👍

But I just find it Funny that one Lady will be condemning a Polygamous Man in one Side but
Supporting a 2nd or 3rd Wife/Babymama on another! 😕😒

Her take is good evwn though she has not she has not provided evidence to show polygamy is not christian?

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Romance / Re: Are Nigerian Women Really Against Polygamy? by MiddleDimension: 1:12am On Aug 07, 2023
Amarisco:

Yep
You are smart, You are wise...
go buy your mama a house
go buy your friends houses
go spend money for no reason
come back.and ask for more!

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Romance / Re: Are Nigerian Women Really Against Polygamy? by MiddleDimension: 8:19pm On Aug 06, 2023
Goodlady:

Bring your evidence

The notion of marriage in christianity is a mirror of the relationship between god and.his church. When you say Jesus is your lord and saviour, it does not mean he cannot be another person's lord and saviour at the sane time.

On countless occations in the bible, God is portrayes as the groom, the husband, while his church, the people of Israel or the individual christian is portrayed as the bride.

Now, bring evidence to show that christianity is not pro polygamy let us alhave a discussion so I can something new.

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Romance / Re: Are Nigerian Women Really Against Polygamy? by MiddleDimension: 5:31pm On Aug 06, 2023
phemmyfour:
What's the difference

the difference is you calling a legal and formal social arrangement in a way that has derogatory connotation.

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Religion / Re: How Christians Should React To The Legalization Of Same-Sex Marriage by MiddleDimension: 5:30pm On Aug 06, 2023
Righteousness2:
I Hate to see when people try to pamper sin.
I Hate to see when so called Christians try to make evil, abomination feel Good.

Listen! Tell people about the LOVE of God.
Also tell them about the WRATH of God.
Tell them about the JUDGEMENT of God.
JESUS CHRIST, the Lord and Savoir of the world spoke more on the Danger of Hell fire than any other thing.

John the Baptist did not spare sin or people , REPENT or PERISH he preached.
Jonah message was simple! REPENT or Nineveh will be destroyed. And everybody ran to God for their lives.

Millions of souls are dying on daily basis and a great chunk of these numbers are flying into hell fire, crying, and bring gnashing their teeth in the lake of fire.

The devil knows the shortness of the time. He is brutally going all out to grab souls in every way possible. Why many so called Christians are playing .

Don't let anyone deceive you or pamper you with sin and Grammar.
The Judgement of GOD is so visible on this generation.
Judgement is coming! Escape for your life.Son will destroy you and package you to Hell.
Repentance is the key

A genuie relationship JESUS Christ is the ONLY way of escape.



Please die in your hate oooooooo!

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