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Wow. I touched a nerve again. Please keep responding and please keep thinking that I was serious. Yes, I believe that jesus banged mary, even if i don't believe they ever existed, at least not in the way the bible presented them.

And really, use tactics against you? You accuse me of things you did yourself. You talk about substance yet you know NOTHING about it. All you did was say : JESUS CREATED THE SUN ! Spare me on the intelligent talk really. You're plain foolish. I lmao and LOL at your stupidity. You come here thinking you've got stuff in your brain, which is true, but not what you think. Your brain is full of air. You think you can actually 'debate'. Shut the hell up. You don't even know the meaning of the word. I was sarcastic from the beginning and I'll always be. Although, it isn't exactly sarcasm when you actually have to explain it to dummies like you. Yes I'll insult you, and I'll have a blast doing it.

And look up the meaning of concrete, please. And please, stop considering yourself as a scientist. That's an insult to scientists really. You're just another pathetic christian. Also, you called me out on nothing. You only proved how much of a low life you are. Go on kiddo, go worship the fictional character who created the sun. Haha. I'm still looking for a valid point. I guess I should stop. Airhead.

davidylan:
hitler . . . ya hate western civilization too with a passion?

See, you dont "hate" religion with a passion because of this (never mind you lied on the other thread that you didnt hate religion) . . . you HATE it because it asks of you to live a life of purity and demands a surrender of your fleshly lusts and will . . .

You HATE religion because it exposes the rotteness of your own life . . . you HATE it because it condemns you to eternal hell.

See . . . crimes like this occur once in a blue moon . . . we've had the likes of Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot . . . who have condemned millions to death. I never hear hypocrites like you howl and mourn the way you do when it comes to individual criminal cases that just happen to involve religious people.

One other thing i must mention . . . note how these people who pretend to "hate religion" actually ONLY HATE CHRISTIANITY! You never see them bawling at islam or buddhism.

You should really stop posting. Where in the world did I say I didn't hate religion? I don't have anything against believers rather religion. You're really a prick. And for your information, I HATE islam as well. When you have nothing to say, shut up !

davidylan:
A lot of people really have no clue what they claim to believe . . . they simply couch their own ignorance in insults and a false pretence at "lol".

How can you not laugh when reading your posts !? That's beyond me. If you ever thought I was serious with you then you're a f[i]u[/i]cked up slowpoke. Ah ! Don't think I read your posts completely. Couldn't even if I tried. Although somethings I said were true. I think god is a fictional character and the bible is fiction too.

Kgdavid:
just proves what i've been saying all along really. you, my friend, are only here to rattle a few bones. is it not possible to start a constructive debate without all the animosity? u call us airheads but what kind of person wakes up one morning and decides to look for "targets"  whose faith you are going to mock? i find your general level of superiority complex and your air of condensation to be very amusing. What really makes you think you are better than anyone who posts on this forum?

Oh shut up. There is no superiority complex going on. I personally think the christians who read this and chose to ignore it are actually freaking intelligent. Stooping to the level of someone whom is obviously taking a piss out of you makes you stupid. Like Davidylan. I don't think myself to be better than most of you.

Well, as I see it, I don't think smoking is a sin. Why should god give a damn? Drinking isn't a sin either but getting drunk is. You know, the fundamentals of the bible. Premarital intimacy is a sin. But you know, you're human so you're allowed to sin. Just pray for forgiveness after all. Or kill a goat.

mama-gee:
Sin is an Offence against God, Simple!

I think he got that. Hence the questions. But what is considered as an offense against god?

AH ! Exactly why I HATE religion with a passion ! Nothing good ever comes out of it.

HAHAHA ! *dies of laughter* I've never heard a nigerian speak in tongues but other africans yes. It's SO freaking funny. ahblablablablabla. On a serious notes, what happens when you speak in tongues? Do you become richer?

davidylan:
lol do you believe in evolution? I'm sure you dont want us going down that path today eh.   But if you're interested in debating the scientific validity of that theory then be my guest.

Standard formular for escaping things you cant explain. We've seen it all before, no surprises here.

Feel free to go where you want to ! You go as far as saying that God created the sun. You talk about escaping things you can't explain? I ask you questions and you say it means that I don't understand your god. And you give an idiotic example of Hitler. LOL. *yawn*

Keep trying to find logic in your belief, it's only making you seem more and more idiotic. I could care less if you call me names all because I belittle your god. But I love it when you get all worked up trying to make non believers seem 'confused'. LOL. You worship a god of violence who killed the likes of Elton John just because 'it's wrong'. You and your ancestors lived through discrimination and fought against it but it all started with your god.

I actually met a believer who told me that science has proven god to exist. It was fun tearing him to pieces. You get so mixed up in your religious views that you fail to percieve things from different point of view. While having faith in god may seem easy for you, it's nearly impossible for others. While you may seem courageous by blindly believing there are people who can't due to past experience. I love how with you guys it's god exists and basta.

Out of every believer who responded here, you were the easiest target and the least intelligent. Getting worked up with the whole Jesus f[i]u[/i]cked mary. LOOL ! You claim to be intelligent but you ignore the meaning of sarcasm. Please, don't give yourself any merit. Never in a million years will I have a serious conversation with someone who claims god created the sun. That was just too good. LOL ! You claim to know atheists yet you fail to realise the main goal of almost any atheist towards believers. Nothing you said was concrete, nothing I said was either but I wasn't meant to say anything concrete. That's the difference. But you blind worshiper couldn't resist. Haha. At least, I've found a new target. Or should I say we. LOL !

Oh, you think you're a 'scientist'? HAHA. LOOOL ! A scientist ,  on nairaland ,  arguing about the existence of god ! HAHAHAHA. LOOOL ! You have no idea how much I've laughed thanks to your stupidity.

To conclude, I believe in god. No, I don't. I believe in evolution. Or not. Well, not the one with the apes. Or maybe. Wait, I believe in jesus but not mary.

LOOOL ! This forum is full of air heads but you sir are the top contestant.

davidylan:
Which is why i wonder why the atheist . . . who knows nothing . . . spends so much time berating the God of the bible.

Just because you claim to know doesn't mean you do. So in fact, you're in the same boat as we are. Reality is hard huh?

davidylan:
where have we said that? Read thru this entire thread and point out where any christian has said that to you.
you seem to be grasping at straws here.

Where did you ever do this? you seem to over-estimate your knowledge base.

LOOOOOOOL ! Which one do you smoke? Weed or shit? HAHA ! You're losing your memory.

davidylan:
1. Evolution states that you descended from apes . . . so just exactly WHAT evolution do you claim to believe in?  

2. I do not believe in evolution.

You dont seem to know this God, you're just bawling hysterically based on YOUR OWN idea of what God should be like. Unfortunately things dont work that way.

Ah, another christian who doesn't believe in evolution. I GET IT NOW ! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. How much have I messed with your brain? I NEVER thought I'd have this fun on this forum. Please, feel free to call me confused.

Oh, and how should I know god? What has he done for me? My own idea? I don't think so. There are thousands of people who have this 'idea' of the fictional character you worship.

davidylan:
Exactly my point! That's why it makes me laugh when i hear atheists call christians stup[i]i[/i]d for having faith when it takes even greater faith to believe that the sun just appeared by magic!

That's not being bold . . . sorry to say. That's cowardice . . . bold is when you stick out your neck believing that God created the earth even when you know folks will spit in your face and called you mad for daring to advance such a thought.

Neither will anything convince you.

like saying you were against evolution before you were for it?

There is no intelligence in discussing God . . . i'm quite fine with being considered a fool for my beliefs.

Wrong. Read through my posts . . . nowhere have i ventured any interest in proving to you that God exists. Merely showing you that your own atheism is based on FAITH. The same thing you ignorantly deride in others.

Dont be confused . . . He'd rather talk to a donkey than you in your present state.

I can proudly tell you i am a scientist . . . what are you?

With all your brains there is NOTHING in any of your posts to suggest you understand science at all.

I've never said that having faith is cowardice but you christian say atheists are cowards. You think that makes sense.
And yes, there is no intelligence in discussing belief ! But there is no intelligence is saying that god's existence is a fact.
Haha ! You're not a scientist. You're a scientist wannabe. *yawn* I never claimed to be one. Whenever I talked about science, it was more on the medical side. Ah well. What can I say, you're a 'scientist'

davidylan:
Apparently you do . . . please see here . . .

1. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-402509.64.html#msg5564047

2. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-402509.64.html#msg5564128

3. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-402509.96.html#msg5564458

See i could go on and on pointing out the fact that you seem to have no coherent train of thought. I doubt you even understand what you believe in.

There is NO scientific explanation for creation . . . it is EVOLUTION!

The atheist never seems to have an answer for anything . . . it seems atheism exists only to say "prove that God created the sun".

Look rather than pointing out my "stupidity", you ended up exposing the emptiness that is the doctrine of atheism. Can an atheist INDEPENDETLY tell us that God did not create the sun BECAUSE he/she has proof of how the sun appeared WITHOUT the help of God?

Many of you seem to have a shallow way of thinking . . . God didnt create the sun so that's proof that it just blew there by chance?

there's so much bile and drivel here its so hard to pick one to respond to but read the one in highlights . . .

Holy satan ! If I didn't know christians, I'd have thought of you all to be daft ! I do not believe inthe big bang and I do not belive we all descended from apes ! I believe in evolution, the same evolution you believe in. Apparently you're an idiot enough not to comprehend.

Hitler wasnt a religionist . . . perhaps atheists have a better idea of what the world would be like outside God . . . of course there would be NO poverty or suffering. Pol Pot and Joseph Stalin come to mind.

Are you serious? Are you freaking serious? Atheist believe that there are no deities so this is their idea of a life OUTSIDE god. Now you claim there is a god. A god who allows poverty. Take a look at your country and thank god for all the poor people over there. Thank god for the war between the muslims and the christians ! Thank god for the genocide. Thank god for the earthquakes. Your god is so intelligent to create terrorists. Thank him for the nigerian terrorist son of a b*

davidylan:
that's much better than your own explanation . . . "no idea".

Sometimes not knowing is better than claiming to know. Especially when what you claim has no sense !

toba:
From a confused atheist like u

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. OK !

Krayola:
The theist insists there is a God but can't prove it. The atheist insists there is no God but can't prove it either. Ojoro cancel. Why not just worship Lionel Messi? His last name is two letters short of "Messiah" and he has shown that he can do the impossible. If u need proof tune in to CL in 25mins and prepare to be saved. 

Completly agree. Which is why I don't see the need of debating creation. But pushing nerves is fun.

davidylan:
I can say God created the sun . . . how about you? nothing? the sun simply got there by chance? your grandfather put the sun there? Is there a youtube clip explaining how the sun appeared scientifically?

Again you're confused here . . . something cant "make more sense" when you dont even believe in it in the first place. I'm tempted to conclude that you simply have an irrational hate for God so NOTHING He says can "make sense" to you.

Its no surprise though . . . confused people think "no idea" is actually a more sensible response than "God created the earth" . . . they dont realise how much faith it takes to believe that in the first place.

Just because you can say God created the sun doesn't make you more rational than me. Haha. I am bold enough to say that I don't know how we got here. No explanation so far has convinced me yet. I am not basing my life on a book wrote probably by crack heads.

You keep saying I'm confused. Is that all you can say? And so what if I am confused? How can I not be? The idea of god is confusing enough. You are really not intelligent when talking about god. You actually have this need to prove god's existence. It started yesterday but the best you've done is : god created the sun.

You also say that nothing that god says can make sense to me. I'm a little confused. I don't remember him telling me anything.

You tend to say I know nothing about science and that I'm confused. It is you who have little knowledge. You're blind sighted by the believe of an invisible man with beards. He controls your life. He tells you what's wrong and what's right. How you so unsure of yourself that you need the idea of god to make decisions in your life? Oh ye of little brain.

davidylan:
errr you might want to give place to the smarter atheists here . . . at least they can carry their own point of view without having to go running to wikipedia. 

LOOL ! Says someone who's explanation for the existence of the sun is : God created it. LOL ! F[i]u[/i]ck out of here dude.

toba:
No. Atheism is knowing d existence of God,but not wanting to accept him as their Lord,in other to be a freelance&not subjected under any1s control

And you get this definition from?

Don't worry. I googled it already ! But thanks.

Read the first post. She took a blood-oath NOW she's acting strange. Apparently she's constantly having sex with the guy. I'm not saying anything about the culture but I think the excuse is very convenient.

My bad, I meant to say, I don't believe in the scientific explanation of CREATION ! But I do believe in evolution, who the hell doesn't? Thanks for pointing out my error.

Now I'm going to point out your stupidity. God created the sun. Alright then. What proof do you have of that? When did he do that? He just created it. Maybe he farted it, you never know ! Ignore my sarcasm and respond to the question.

Oh and I'm going to contradict you. Something can make more sense than the other WITHOUT belief ! I don't believe we descended from apes BUT it sure makes more sense than god blew his nose and adam and eve appeared. You call atheists irrational and delusional but you have no idea how MENTALLY DERANGED you sound. 'God created the sun'. Oh really? Every good thing on earth, god created it? What about suffering? What about poverty? You know, I have so many questions about relgion (christianism, islam , ) but this topic has gone way too far. The last tragedy (Haiti) what happened? Is your god so heartless? I fail, FAIL FAIL to believe that there's a god who lets TRAGEDIES like this happen to people he claims to love. How can you watch your people SUFFER AND DIE?

I don't hate god seeing as I don't believe that he exists ! Damn you're slow.

-sigh- There's also a common phrase that believers use : you want evidence that god exists? can you see air? can you touch it? yet you believe it exists. L O L ! aaah !

tpia.:
what do you think is involved in a blood oath?

ie whats your understanding of it?

If the girl said she took a blood oath, which is commonly done in Nigeria, then why is it so hard for you to believe that?

Teenagers when caught having s[i]e[/i]x oftenly look for excuses as to why they're doing it. Simple. This young girl has found pleasure in having sex but blames it on a blood oath. How can you even prove that she actually did a blood oath? Because she said so?

davidylan:
You dont really believe in science, its simply a crutch for your unbelief. Science says you evolved from apes . . .

Based on? I get tired of frauds who just come here spouting "i believe in science" then turn around and say "i dont believe in evolution". Its more proof that these folks dont really understand the science they claim to believe in. Evolution is the basis for genetics today . . . any fool knows that genetics is the present and future of science and medicine today.

You said we shld go listen and watch some science "clips" . . . we're still waiting for your recommendations.

Because you CANT! Its just like me saying . . . i believe God exists, dont even need to explain why.

Why do you have faith that the sun wont fall on your head? where you there when the sun appeared? who put the sun there? Did it get there by chance? How do you know the lifespan of the sun?

Would you also agree that you're just equally as st[i]u[/i]pid to believe that its a fact that the sun will stay in the sky forever?

I am obliged to believe that you're an air head. You mix up your assumptions with what I say. Not believing in the scientific evolution doesn't mean I don't believe in evolution as a whole. Everyone has heard of homosapiens ! That isn't even relevant. I don't believe in man descending from 'apes', I don't believe in the big bang. If you actually read instead of scanning, you would've seen that I made that clear from the beginning.
Who can explain why the sun is there? You're more st[i]u[/i]pid than I thought. By saying that 'I don't need to' it was obvious what I meant by that.

I'm going to ask you the same question. "Why do you have faith that the sun wont fall on your head? where you there when the sun appeared? who put the sun there? Did it get there by chance? How do you know the lifespan of the sun?". And please spare me 'because god said so'.

Even though I don't believe in the scientific explanations of creation, like I said earlier, it makes more sense than: God created man, and created woman out of the ribs of man. Do you know how absurd that sounds? I chuckle as I write it.

Oh as for your 'clips', I meant scientific documentaries. Of course you're st[i]u[/i]pid enough to ignore it's existence.

tpia.:
^^ who are you btw? I dont seem to have met you before, so let me go easy here since i think i mistook you for someone else.


and stop commenting on things that are above your reading level.

There are so many HUMANLY explanations to her behavior yet you choose to say it's supernatural. Wow.

fyneguy:
I hope you did not misconstrue ''Non-wof believers'' to mean unbelievers (non-christians)?

Anyway, This is thread is for believers. Thank you

I didn't misunderstand anything. And I wasn't rude either. I just gave my stake. WTF?

davidylan:
Ah its a new day, lets try a new tack on this . . .

there is no difference between me and thee . . . you equally believe in a science you cannot see.

It gets more confusing by the day. You worship at the feet of science, but you're not a scientist and your only idea of "science" is limited to a few video clips on youtube . . .

I only saw where you asked us to go visit youtube for a few clips. If that's your "take on science" then we can only laugh in derision.

It never was . . . you have faith that the sun will not fall from the sky one day. completely illogical as you dont know how the sun even got there in the first place.

But i guess we can all just pretend that faith exists only among christians.

Hello there !

You're wrong très cher. Like I said, I believe in science, I believe in med, I believe that science 'cures diseases'. If science hasn't found a way to cure AIDS, your god can't either. I do not believe in evolution as it's not concrete. Same goes for religion.
You keep talking about youtube, is there something you want to show me? LOL !

Faith isn't harmless when it isn't taken to the extreme. I have faith that my family will never leave me no matter what I do. I have proof. They've proved that for 21 years now ! I have faith that the sun will not fall on our heads, don't even need to explain why. Now, I can understand someone having faith in something higher than humans, it's only natural. We all need that little thing that helps us going on. But to say it's a FACT? Now that's st[i]u[/i]pid.

tpia.:
are you smoking weed while posting here?

IN NIGERIA blood oaths are uncommon.

get that into your thick brain.

rubbish- like you dont have voodoo where you come from?

ode.

Fine, I won't judge your culture. She's a teenager, who can't stop having sex and to you guys it's something supernatural BECAUSE SHE SAID SO? If it bothers the parents so much, why don't the move from the town they're living in? Let's see if she'll 'fly' to go have sex. LOL

tpia.:
get off your high horse and actually read through the thread. This is what the OP typed:

I deliberately ignored that bull. Are you kidding me? You're actually going to believe that because she said so? It didn't occur to you that it might be an excuse to continue doing what she's doing? Oh, I can't stop f[i]u[/i]cking, I did a blood-oath. LOL.
And of course 'the guy introduced her to sex' ! She's 16 and this is 2012 !

"faith:

confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, an idea, or a thing.
belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
loyalty or allegiance to a person or thing; esp. fidelity to a promise.
the theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will."

I'm a non believer by the way.

HAHA ! Your topics never cease to amaze me.

HAHA ! Well Elton John's got the gay radar. If he thinks jesus was gay, then he probably was. LOL !

LOL ! A girl is 'in love' and can't stop having sex and this means she had a blood-oath (whatever that means). HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !