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Are you serious? LOL !

davidylan:
Delusion finally confirmed.  If you find it easier to believe that you evolved from a primordial soup of hot gases then you're beyond help.

You're no better . . . inasmuch as you're blinded by your irrational belief in God, it sounds absurd to believe the earth dropped here by chance.

But you worship science . . . and frankly close to 80% of science is built on the foundations of evolution. Its further confirmation that you are NOT a scientist, simply an armchair reciter of what you see on youtube.

What then do you believe in? Vacuum?

you've never respected our beliefs . . . that has been clear from your frequent throwing of tantrums anytime you run into a person of faith on any thread here. We've never asked you to respect our beliefs . . . feel free to create your hate forum thrashing the bible. We really dont care.

We cant respect your beliefs either . . . its not founded on substance.

To be 100% honest . . . it is quite clear that atheism is simply hatred against christianity disguised as "rational" appreciation for "logic and science".

You call me delusional yet you believe in something that you've NEVER seen. I keep on laughing. I never claimed to be a scientist, your delusional mind made that up. I have explained my take on science yet you keep on screaming nonsense. Still laughing. I'd rather believe in nothing than a man-made story. Also, if you didn't care, you wouldn't have spent your time trying to do whatever you're doing. Can't stop laughing.
By the way, I don't need to create a hate thread, there are enough threads made by people like you ! *yawn* Also, belief can't be founded on substance dummie. I have had discussions with different Christians, many of them are my friends and my god, you're the most silly believer I've ever met. Nothing you said made sense. *yawn* Intelligent christian, sure !

hatch#:
Ok, i must confess that i followed this thread like an English Premiership Match and can say nothing but i have never met such a delusional and confused person such as Mikaela.

Goodness grief, your giberish is capable of driving a sane person insane. Now you don't believe in the existence of God neither do you believe in evolution but choose to adopt logical reasoning when you speak so many illogical things that can only make one laugh more and more.

Your English is perfectly fine ! It's funny when people who believe in the au-délà call those who don't 'delusional'. Do you know how crazy that sounds? What proof do you have that god existed? You say god is caring and whatnot, take a look at haiti, AFRICA, asia. Do you know how PAINFUL it is to see people suffer? Yet you god sits up high on his throne with his angels and probably a LovePeddler sucking his d[i]i[/i]ck. But you guys claim to be 'logical' when you discuss creation. How can you be? Faith itself isn't logical.

Kgdavid:
'For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrughteousness of men, who supress the truth in unrighteousness. Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it ti them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead so that they are without excuse, Because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise they became fools.'  romans 1, 18-22. Dictum sapienti sat est ( a word to a wise person is enough)

*yawn* That is your argument?

davidylan:
The scientific explanation for creation = all theories. What is the difference? What if i told you Genesis 1 is also a theory you are free to disbelieve if you shld so choose? Why does the atheist find it absurd that God created man BUT is perfectly OK with believing THEORIES from scientists who were NOT THERE when the earth was formed?

You cant believe in "nothing" . . . that is like saying you exist in a vacuum. But its ok, i've come across atheists like you who use that excuse to get out of having to explain why atheism itself is simply a religion whose "God" is man.

To answer your question, evolution is more probable than faith. In as much as you're blinded by your belief, it's sounds absurd to believe in God. Then again, evolution sounds absurd. Which is why I don't believe in it ! You've come across atheists like me. LOL. Please. I'd rather exist in a vaccum than believe in something supernatural. I don't believe in god, don't believe in satan, don't believe in witches, don't believe in the religious hell or heaven. You want me to respect your beliefs but you won't respect mine ! typical.

Why would you do that? Hasn't she got parents? Can't she work? What the hell is this mentality? Who does that?

davidylan:
Says someone who believes the earth just appeared by chance.

The unfortunate truth many of these rabble-rousers fail to understand is that atheism itself is BASED ON IRRATIONAL BELIEF, the same type they accuse the christian of.

Look at this scenario . . .

Christian - believes God created the earth

Atheist - believes the earth appeared by chance

Christian - believes God created man

Atheist - believes man descended from apes . . .

What really is the difference?  

HAHA ! And you talk about science? Do you know creation has different theories? HAHAHA ! You keep proving how st[i]u[/i]pid you are with every post. Call me an atheist. Although, I believe in nothing ! LOL !

LOL. Mentally instable. Says someone who believes that there's something up in the sky that cures diseases. LOL ! Yes, I am mentally instable. *yawn* And you consider yourselves to be intelligent. LOL. And I never said I hated the Bible ! See when I say you guys can't read? The Bible is actually better than Harry Potter.

davidylan:
Jesus was called Rabbi (basically saying TEACHER - nothing special in the "title" because He kept giving tons of sermons to his disciples and others.

Jesus "decided to go against His own religion by inventing Christianism"? I mean how can this make a shred of sense? When did Christ sit down with you to discuss this or from which book did you read this?

Yeah. Him being called Rabbi had nothing to do with being Jewish. According to you, he was a christian. haha. When did he actually create christianism?

davidylan:
which means Jew = race right? Jesus did not practice Judaism.

-sigh- I can't believe that Christians don't even know the origine of their christ. Keep believing in Jesus as I'll keep on being sarcastic on y'all. Jesus who was Jewish decided to go against his own religion / way of life by inventing christianism. LOL. Alright. If you say so, it's your right. I wonder why he was called Rabbi then. LOL. He still remains a crack head though. He probably had dreadlocks.

Kgdavid:
jewish thing here started when YOU claimed that Jesus was a jew in the religious sense. U are the one who needs to read or rather remember better.

*zen* Alright. Let's forget about the definition for a second. Jesus was religiously a JEW ! Before his death, CHRISTIANISM didn't exist. Show me where Jesus said he was Christian please. Besides, Jesus died before Acts was written right? (correct me if I'm wrong). The term 'Christian' was first used in Acts. Besides, do some looking up, in your bible or elsewhere.

Krissykriss:
@michelin & Akinagirl. D dictionary defnition i just saw says Abortion: To bring about d loss of an unborn child from d womb.

LOL. Which dictionary?

Abortion means the end of a pregnancy before the fetus can survive.

Akinagirl:
I agree with Michelin. Up to a certain stage its not. It really depends on how far along she is, that it becomes illegal.

I agree. When it's legal it isn't murder. When it illegal, it isn't far from murder. It's plain cruelty !

Kgdavid:
u are not seeing because of your conviction that you are right. you claimed Jesus was Jewish(religiously) then you said the evidence was in his biological lineage!!

No no no ! You said or someone said that Jew = race and NOT religion. And I said that Jew = religion but is understandable that people consider it to be both. For satan's sake, read ! Jesus was born a jew and died a jew.

Kgdavid:
lol mikaela follow me. you sayin jewish is a religion then you say jesus was a jew becauase his earthly parents were jews? u were born in a christian home therefore you are a christian? which God? if you ever reach a point were you receive a conviction that there is a god, i would suggest you read your binle again, with sincerity this time.

OH MY GOD ! *dies* Did I say it was EXCLUSIVELY a religion? Is this some kind of joke? Is there a stupidity contest going on?

Kgdavid:
lets assume Jewish is a religion. where is the evidence that Jesus was a Jew(in the religious sense)? do you really read that bible of yours? you worship science so? does that mean you are smart? it certainly does not mean you are on the right track. you don't believe in this or that and thats fine but i ask you to ask yourself a question, how? take it further;why? How did life start?? why?(what made it happen?). but my final question to you is what is your point here and now? you here to insult us? or to find out why we believe in what we do?

Evidence that Jesus was Jewish? Other the fact that Mary and Jospeh were ! I'm quite shocked. You're supposed to know more than me about the bible yet you posess such little knowledge.
To answer one of your questions. OK, let's say I've taken it further, what happens next? Should I automatically believe in god? If so, which one? Jewish god, christian god, muslim god?

Krissykriss:
@Mikeala. Dude how old are u? Cos u're soundin less matured than my lil sis! U wanna brag about d english language cos u're priviledged to be in europe? Have u listened to yar'adua speak english? Yet he was a presido of naija. If u can speak+write d eng lang perfectly & cant put food on your table, of wat benefit is it to u? There are far more important things to brag about than a language that doesnt belong to u. FYI, we learn d english language so as to communicate with d different tribes in d country, not to be perfect with it (u need to go to france or germany; even australia). So u know, i have five siblings - three in europe & one in australia - and they're doin extremely fine. I & my other sibling down here are doin fine on our own too. So dont brag about being in d overseas (i have a feelin thats d next thing u'll brag about). I know d mind of kids.

Priviledged? It's -20°C here and you call me priviledged? LOL. Anyway, I didn't brag about anything. I don't know why you're getting so worked up. If you're proud of your little knowledge of the English language, you shouldn't care about what I say.

Icepie:
This is an issue that's been a problem for women in nigeria.if one takes proper look at the whites xpecially the models n actress,no signs of stretch marks.is there cure? Doctors In the house-your call pls!

How many Whites have you seen? If you think that Whites look like the models you seen in magazines, I laugh. Besides, some of them have got stretch marks. They're retouched to look perfect ! Dude come on !

davidylan:
not really true.

It is. Sort of. Eating unhealthy food can lead to people putting on weight which may lead to obeisity. And therefore creating a risk of having kidney cancer, breast cancer etc.

I sort of agree with the post. Diet and lifestyle can contribute but there's also something called genetics. I'll probably have cancer because I smoke. Ah !

Em, she's a woman right? And you're a man? How about doing normal things men do to seduce women. I don't get the american breed .?

googles:
[size=13pt]i caught my boyfriend right on top of a girl grinding her and guess wat he told me "she seduced me i tried to ignore her but she forced me" [/size]but i saw him on top of her looking very well "unforced"

ROFL ! ROFL ! You slapped him right? (although you shouldn't)

davidylan:
3 solid posts and not ONE contained anything of substance.

typical.

LOL. Jesus wasn't a christian. Besides, NOTHING BOTH OF US said contained substance. Rather insults. Childish? yes. Fun? yes.

I'm going to be serious and actually stop messing with your ugly little heads.

To you christians, I'm an atheist. To be honest, I'm nothing. I don't believe in God nor in evolution. I think that creation is something higher than science. There is NOTHING to prove that god exists or doesn't exist. Until then, I believe in nothing. Belief is personal and shouldn't be attacked except with the use of sarcasm. Religion to me is the worst invention ever. In your country, the number of Christians that have been killed by the muslims, all in the name of god is disgusting and really sad. The Irish too had that problem. The Jews also. All in the name of religion. Which has made me to come to the conclusion that religion promotes violence. Like I've said on numerous occasions, I have nothing against believers. It's all about faith. And if you're courageous enough to believe in god, fine. As long as you don't try to push it down people's throats.

When I say I worship science (a little out there) it is true. I've seen Christians claim that they got cured of aids. Right. God can't cure cancer. If any thing should actually cure these diseases, it'll have to be science. We've gone so far from decades back and it's all thanks to science. Without it, we'll all probably be dead or on our death beds. On this forum, when someone has an heartache or disease you all call god. But it's the doctors who do their jobs.

As for the Bible, if you don't decide to see it from an atheist's point of view, you'll NEVER be able to answer simple questions. Although I was plainly sarcastic, I asked a question about Mary and someone talked about judgment day. Ha ! I laugh. And davidylan, NOTHING you said actually proved your point. You can't explain the bible to someone who think hippies wrote it. I have the Bible and I've read it. I actually like it. Instead of resulting to insults and bla bla all you had to do was either ignore me or come up with strong facts. You did none. Instead you wanted by all means to contradict me and that lead to you saying that jesus was a christian based on a simple sentence written in the Bible. I don't believe in the bible, remember? So I won't take you seriously AT ALL.

This was / is fun.

Krissykriss:
Mikeala, abusin u will be tantamount to downgradin myself cos u sound like someone who's been frustrated in life; u blame God 4 your woes. What u should be doin by now is trustin God not d opposite.

Don't worry. Your English is already 'downgradin' you.

davidylan:
Mikaela still wants to discuss science? 

You didn't say anything about science. All you did was claim that I knew nothing. So where is the discussion. Where's your PROOF? Where is your point? [size=20pt]SEE WHEN I SAY CHRISTIANS ARE ONE OF THE MOST silly PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH[/size]. (except for the tolerant ones of course)

davidylan:
Are you now going to start lying? this was what you said dear . . .

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-402509.32.html#msg5563868

thank God others have it quoted so you cant go and modify it . . . where did you add "race" there? 

Myself and KgDavid where the ones trying to get you to understand that being jewish is about RACE not religion! 

[size=20pt]Since you're good at quoting, find where I said that it was understandable to say that JEW = BOTH ! Dumbf[i]u[/i]ck ![/size]

Little story about your little friend. His name is actually Yeshua. Raised in Nazareth, which is a JEWISH town. He was called Rabbi. He spoke Hebrew , I'm sure you think he spoke English. HAHA !

davidylan:
the book of acts clearly tells us what the term "christian" means - those who behaved like Christ!

Since Christ behaved exactly like Himself . . . we can thus conclude that He was a christian.

See . . . logic right there. Doesnt require a degree in rocket science to figure that out.

HOW IN THE WORLD. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No no no, that is not logic AT ALL. That's what we call STUPIDITY ! Jesus WASN'T A CHRISTIAN ! Even a 10 year old knows that. WTF? ROFL. Please, please, educate yourself. That's really embarrassing. MY EYES !

HAHA ! Again, I've seen this before. Christians always tell atheists : you know nothing about science. I didn't even go there.
Moving on.

"This is basically foolish. Science did not appear because a set of guys set about "thinking for themselves". They went out there and PROVED their hypothesis . . . when you claim you do not agree with what every scientist says . . . on what SCIENTIFIC BASIS do you do this? Just sitting in your room "thinking for yourself"?"

What has science proved about religion? Apart from some of the miracles Jesus did. When I say I criticize science, it's about religion really. Yes, I am sitting in my room thinking for myself. Unlike you who allows hippies think for him. Pretty sure you're on of those 'you're going to hell' type. By the way slowpoke, you don't need science to contradict science. Science itself has done so. Try watching a documentary about Jesus. A family member who actually believes that jesus slept with mary. In as much as I joke about it, I don't even believe that jesus existed.

Haha. I've been on this forum long enough to know that sarcasm is the best way to treat you all. Never in a million years will I sit down and take this site seriously. Unlike you though.

I'll laugh at you, on the internet and in your faith. NOTHING you said actually made sense. Your take on the jews is wrong, you claim I know nothing about science yet you said NOTHING about science either. *yawn* keep it coming baby.

davidylan:
no i highlighted the part where it specifically punctured holes in your own silly and false claim . . . read it again - Jews include three groups: people who were born to a Jewish family regardless of whether or not they follow the religion

That is the standard law based on the Israeli constitution . . . grab a copy for urself.

Again your wikipedia link made its claim based on this - Generally, in modern secular usage. this is basically rubbish . . . "modern secular usage" (i.e. what a norwegian or camerounian feels is true) does not supplant Israeli law.

I know . . . its hard for empty heads like you to wrap your minds around facts since you've been believing so much false crap for so long.

What a ridiculous troll . . .  Apparently you need me to provide evidence of where wikipedia has been used to perpetuate falsehood eh?

When you truly have proof then let me know. You ever read the Israeli constitution that expressly defines who a jew is?

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,829642,00.html#ixzz0gIRf82FW

Last line - Argued Father Daniel's counsel, Shalom Yaron: "The time has come for people in Israel to be like all others. [size=15pt]Since the state considers an atheist a Jew[/size], what is the logic in not considering a converted Jew a Jew?"

But see, I said that it's understandable to say that being jewish = religion AND race. Not only race. You keep talking rubbish. A newly found friend of mine claims to be jewish but unfortunately, it's from his father's side. Anyway, he tells me that it's a way of life. Jesus's parents were Jewish. Are you going to say that they were Christians. It's IMPOSSIBLE seeing as Christianism got created AFTER Jesus's death.

This is getting interesting. Davidylan, you're a high school drop out right? It's really obvious.

It's not contradiction. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. That doesn't mean I agree with what every scientist says ! At one point, you have to THINK FOR YOURSELF ! Believe in what you think is BEST FOR YOU. I am not a idiot like you who follow whatever people tell him to follow.

You take my words and reformulate them for your benefit. Do as you please. You think you make sense? Of course this religious morons will claim that you're intelligent. You have no idea how much crap you laid down today. It's all about repetition and a typical christian brain. Don't blame you though.

It shocks you to see an atheist who believes in science more than she does in God criticize science right? Most of the explanations scientists give are PROBABILITIES ! You know what that means. Hurts you to see that I CAN SAY IT? You think I only judge religion? You think I'm a blind follower of science? Not everyone is as idiotic as you are you know.

davidylan:
As usual . . . one wonders how this folks would survive if google never existed. Seems the only way they can answer questions is by rushing to google.

One fact you must know dumbhead . . . google CAN BE MODIFIED BY ANYONE at any time and is not conclusive proof that the facts contained therein is true.

For instance your wikipedia link says this - Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who were born to a Jewish family regardless of whether or not they follow the religion, those who have some Jewish ancestral background or lineage (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), and people without any Jewish ancestral background or lineage who have formally converted to Judaism and therefore are followers of the religion.

"modern secular usage" is garbage as it does not mean jews agree with such usage! For instance that i convert to judaism today does NOT make me a jew neither does it mean i can obtain an Israeli passport. The only way to obtain an Israeli passport (as a jew) is to either be born there or be born to a family with jewish descent. That is standard Israeli law.

But you can go google another nonsensical website written by boneheads like you and come back again.

I basically talk science because i know you'd be at sea . . . i just wanted to use that to show that you truly dont understand the science you claim to "worship".

*sigh* Are you seriously daft? You remove the part where it talks about religion. Wikipedia is a very good source, yes it can be modified but mostly says the truth. If you want proof, come over, I'll introduce you to jews ! Saying being jewish isn't a religion but a race , wow.

davidylan:
- the fallacy that you're not taking us "seriously" is something we have seen before ESPECIALLY with folks who truly have no idea what they are arguing about and are simply digging around for an excuse to avoid being specific in defending their spurious claims. Its the reason you have still REFUSED to answer even the simplest queries yet.

- We're not being on the defensive . . . simply responding to your own foolishness. We've seen your tactic used one too many times to get distracted by it.

- Most atheists claim to "worship science" and then say they dont believe in evolution at the same time. That makes no sense because evolution is itself one of the major hallmarks of modern science. the topic of evolution is in EVERY biology textbook on earth. You fools cant eat your cake and have it . . .

The theory of evolution governs genetics . . . just thought i'd let you be aware of that simple fact. The theory that we all descended from one common ancestor is the reason scientists believe all we can study genes in yeast or c.elegans for instance and extrapolate their findings to determining how genes behave in the human cell.

Tell your bullcrap to the marines dear. You're not speaking to empty heads like yourself.

Ha ! Well well, how many atheists do you know in real life? I don't believe in God and neither do I believe in Evolution. People like me, there are many. Just because I don't believe in God doesn't mean that I have to believe every crap that comes out of a scientist's mouth. Science has answered a lot in my life than your god will ever do in yours.
Your 'simple' questions are nothing other than repetitions of your stupidity. Arguing with an athiest and actually trying to find make a point. Fail. For both of us. But this is fun. Your hypocrisy is outstanding. You insult atheists yet you hurt when we insult you. In anyway, kudos to you for having faith. But please, leave logic to those who know what it is. If you actually take time to LISTEN and WATCH scientific explanations (which of course are probabilities) without judging, you'd be able to see why most of us don't believe.

davidylan:
Dumb . . . this article was written by who?  Lisa Katz . . . where is she from? What are her qualifications? Is she Jewish? Does she live in Israel? Has she ever read the Israeli constitution?

Sorry . . . messianic jews do not follow judaism but are still considered bonafide jews.

You dont worship science . . . you dont even know what science truly is. We've heard this phrase way too many times even from high school drop-outs who struggled to pass basic science classes.

Feel better? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

How can you talk science with someone who doesn't even know what it is? You're so narrow-minded. No need !