₦airaland Forum

ladman:
seun you are right we need people like that but can he win election considering the illiteracy and poverty rate in nigeria ?people always sell their future for a five hundred naira note.

then he better find 500 times number of majority vote or substitute

KingSango:
If you listen you can teach. Listening and knowledge must not be separate. Capitalism, Communism and Socialism are European terms.

their terms
But the concepts are universal
Either work for yourself (capitalism) or for the group (socialism communism)

People work more efficiently for themselves to get rewards
Few people work in a group Cos they are penalised for working

KingSango:
No one must be richer than the King.

Stop calling collective economy socialism. A self control and powerful society doesn't encourage a free meal such as socialism. An art and craft economcy is no welfare state.

it's either socialism or capitalism or slavery choose one
Arts and crafts is capitalism

KingSango:
Mali had the richest man in history and do you know what type of economy they had? It wasn't capitalism.

socialism makes few rich. Capitalism makes majority rich so long as you're not lazy

imhotep:
no they are not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s32eInxqubw

Toh

KingSango:
I am an Ibeji, I know things about prosperity that you have never been taught.

Please explain

I love nice things. Trust me, Capitalism, Communism and Socialism are Whitemen's terms.

Their terms
But reality whatever you call them

Africa is suffering economically because you have adopted what doesn't fit you.

Agreed for democracy
But capitalism is capitalis
Socialism is socialism

You purchase their old clothes instead of making your own, which is way cheaper.

Due to socialism

All those clothes are used by other humans who did God knows what while wearing them, its negative energy. Economics is about energy distribution simply put.

Agreed

I live in a Capitalist society and we have poor people here in abundance.

Mostly their fault

Reconstructing an ancient African trade economy where no one would be without food and a skill to earn money. Businessmen will still get rich, in fact even more richer.

I have the formula.

Ase

Love Sango

still waiting for your formula that will beat human nature of greed survival and self-interest

ajoguegbe:
So if you interview most Igbos, they actually believe these things happen because they are the 5%
1. In Appointments.
Most political appointment by Buhari and his APC government has been concentrated on the North. Even after a public condemnation where they released names of "all' their appointments to prove no section is being marginalized. A counter investigation showed that they hid some names in their list

no law was broken
They didn't support they don't deserve
They do have their ministers according to constitution
Views jury whining cos they didn't get 'juicy' posts where Tey can loot not actually fix anything

2. In Victimization
Igbos believe Buhari is using the tools of government like the army and EFCC to victimize their people. Reno Omokiri captured it well when he said EFCC could not arrest maina and co but were very swift in arresting Innoson MD same way they arrested Ifeanyi Uba. Another area that comes to mind is the Arewa vs Ipob issue, Some Arewa Youths called for genocide and no arrest was made even after El rufai ordered their arrest but the military invaded nnamdi Kanus house for asking for seccession. Fulani herds men have murdered thousands but are not declared terrorist instead a special fund will be allocated to fight them but IPOB never killed anyone but were declared terrorists

Did they commit the offence or not
They weren't victimised at random
They shouldn't disturb govt when they know they have skeletons

3. In Favoritism
Since Buhari came to power all efforts has been concentrated in the North. I think it was the World Bank president or so that said Buhari asked him to focus all development effort on the North East. Buhari has also wasted billions looking for oil in the North and recently demanded for 1 Billion dollars to fight Boko Haram-all northern problem. Imagine what half that amount would do to empower entrepreneurs in the South

Same with point 1
Only ministerial and civil service require federal character

4. In Commerce
Under Buhari many imported goods are banned under the pretext to promote locally made goods. Importation in Nigeria is done mainly by the Igbos. Also due to the dollar issues many Nigerians studying abroad could no longer afford the fees neither did the federal government come to their aid.

Why can't they invest in manufacturing like dangote instead of exporting our nation's birthright for mess of dollars

5. In almost every opportunity
It seems to most Igbos that Buhari uses every means to punish them. Last December 2016 there was fuel scarcity, this December 2017 another major scarcity. This is a period most Igbos travel to the east for Christmas. All these moves are always hidden under one reason or the other

If they like their village so much they should stay there
What stops them from importingfuel and selling at loss abi fuel companies in east are northerners?

Do you think there are other areas not covered? Share your views

nothing is covered
You're just fanning flames of discord

KingSango:
Capitalism and Socialism work for Northern imperialist nations that require imports to supplement their economies.

normal

This is would be America and NATO nations, who imported slaves and natural resources from Africa. Almost every valuable natural resources known to man can be found in abundance in Africa. By Africa adopting a capitalist economy it is eating itself, literally. How you Africa is importing any product from China or anywhere else. This is how come your Naira is hyperinflated compared to American and Chinese currencies. This is what I mean by eating itself. You are literally just paying for products whose natural resources come from Africa in the first place.

All Economy Theory is superficial and an economy can be based purely upon peanuts as currency. Might not work out long but you get the picture.

I assume you're a practising economist
but empirical evidence shows that capitalism create wealth while socialism simply destroys it

Arts and crafts economies are what the ancient West Africans had not Capitalism. Food was never a concern in ancient kingdoms because many crowns had their own people farming the land. Such as Bunyoro Kitara, an Empire in East Africa had government farms. I do believe that Oyo still has government farms. Last I checked Oyo Empire in Oyo Town had such farms and the state of Oyo has state farming. Most ancient African kingdoms that prospered greatly used food for currency. This way their gold was stored up. If Nigerians adopted food for currency in its 36 states that would give ordinary Nigerians a chance to save their Naira and buy the arts and crafts, which would create livelihoods for all its citizenry. This is my plan but I can't get into details online because its apart of a proposal.

Ase

we are not farming
farmers getting old and very inefficient due to tiny acreages with no tractors

Love Sango

I hope your theories pan out since only capitalism works

Rossikki:
Bunch of ignorant, dumb, pampered fools. To them, "Africa" is just one single country defined by poverty and deprivation. Most of them cannot name 4 out of the 55 countries in Africa. Yet they will open their demonic lips to tell you 'everything' about "Africa".

are they lying

Epiphany:
*_{passing by the thread and see this. Just remembered too that the same thing was said about Obama - 'why does he not start as a governor? He is running for President - and he is even black. He must be a joker'}*

I used to think that Utomi cannot win the election in Naija but i guess that after someone like Yar'Adua and PDP, people will be so tired of the old antics that they will vote for a 'fresher'. If PDP or any party tries to rig the elections, then people will really protest.

I may be dreaming, but i am enjoying the dream!

Obama was a state senator first then federal senator
he didn't just become president

Ehiscotch:
The majority are in his pockets.

flip side of democracy
but that's their problem
when their tired they'll change him

It won't be easy defeating him.

nothing is easy in life

Besides, there are not a whole lot of better candidates aspiring.

Toh so we need to stop blaming him then

KingSango:
Hmmm...grasping ? I would rather be an eunuch than be a sodomite pedophile.

I focus upon Sodomy because its a rising demonism here in the U.S unlike Nigeria where you have laws that keep homosexuals in check. Homosexuals are running European nations and many Africans in Diaspora are helping the Whites with their evil plans to spread homosexuality. Its really awful.

politics the game continues

Arts and Crafts aren't limited to entertainment.

yes it is

Besides, I have devised an economic system that incorporates everything in the society not just farming and factories.

let's hear it

Farming and factories have their limitations.

every man made thing has limitations

When you increase food production fuel prices will go up.

so does efficiency
nothing goes for nothing
we need tractors fertiliser and irrigation
but mostly tractors

You can't tug at the web and not have the whole web move. Might as well restructure the whole web that get entangled in a mess.

how do you restructure the web
only capitalism works

Ase

Love Sango

grasping at arts and crafts explanation o

KingSango:
Slow down. I love women. I live pure. No offense given, no offense taken.

Arts are limited to what the possibilities you gave as crafts aren't just for rich societies. And who says Nigeria isn't a rich society? Nigeria has a rich cultural heritage and rich arts and crafts history.

OK OK so I was grasping at straws on that one
but seriously ppl need full bellies before they will appreciate entertainment.

Ehiscotch:
He is all too powerful, for now. He was nearly removed but he rigged his way up and even when a fresh election was conducted, many had already lost hope in the APC.

who gave him the power (votes)
no be our ppl?
nearly is not good enough
better candidates need to rise up and challenge him

horsepower101:
What are you doing personally to better Nigeria? Show us the way.

started a farm (economic)
and joined political party(political)
trying to educate others (social)

KingSango:
You are hard man but I like.

I like women

Farming is hardwork and factory well that's hardwork too!

poverty is harder work

Nigeria is a breadbasket so making money in agriculture is very profitable.

so is America
but it's better we produce what we consume to create jobs directly and indirectly

Nigeria has a lot of natural resources so factories can be very profitable.

even if we didn't we should still import #1 so we can add #10 value instead of importing the whole #11

But instead of creating jobs, how about businesses and livilihoods, such as arts and crafts. Arts and Crafts is more of the Yoruba and Benin cultures.

Ase

Love Sango

can't eat arts and crafts unfortunately
arts (sports, movies, music) and crafts for rich societies

oooduancalmdown:
There is nothing bad in having several ethnic groups in a country, but when it is excessive, then that is when it become a problem. Like they say, too much of everything is bad.
For a ethnically diverse country to thrive, there must be just one single majority ethnic group in it.


Excessive ethnic diversity make people unpatriotic.

lie
lots of tribes in yankee

Unpatriotism make people corrupt.

nope
socialism does

Corruption brings underdevelopment

see above

Underdevelopment breeds poverty.

yes... ish

Poverty breeds crime.

correlates
classism breeds jealousy and covetousness hence crime

The root of Nigeria's problem is not bad leadership, but ethnic differences.

it's a lie
it's leadership
when AWO was developing SW it forced the other regions to try to keep up

You can only kill a tree by removing its root.

another lie
you can remove leaves
block sun
or deprive it of water
poison also

The leaders were raised in the same society as you and I.
There is no way tribalism will end in Nigeria .

nope

This country has three major ethnic groups
Each of these group has its own goal, culture, and way of life.

everybody wants good infrastructure and social services no matter the tribe

There is nothing like unity in diversity. It does not make any sense.

visit America

We are not patriotic to Nigeria but to our own ethnic group.

so what
by helping your tribe you help the country, the continent the world

Majority of European countries are split along along ethnic lines for a reason. It is to solve these problems.

so are we
36 states
774 local govt
abi your governor is a Hausa man?

The Scandinavian etynic group like Danish, Icelandic, swedes, Norwegians , and Finns are apart for a reason.
The Italians, French, German cannot be under the same roof. Same for Asian Japanese and Koreans.
Countries don't develop with prayer and fasting.

nope

Countries don't develop by miracle.

yeah they can
but not by ungodly ppl

They develop with the right system.
Have a lovely day

countries develop with capitalism (entrepreneurs)
that's the only system that works
laziness is worrying us not tribalism

KingSango:
I'm here in Washington D.C, the most powerful city on Earth.

so?

What happens here, such as the New Tax Reform, will affect every place upon this Earth that is tied to the Jewish/Zionist worldwide dominated economy.

so?
some positive some negative
fingers crossed

Nigerian Youth are out of work.

they should enter farm and stop deluding themselves with mom existent white collar jobs

5 sets of NYSC Corpers are jobless. Please don't ignore these practicalities.

Ase

Love Sango

practically we need to enter farm and factory to produce goodies otherwise.....

horsepower101:
That is not his job. Plus if he tries to lead a protest, most of you guys will politicize and tribalize it. To each his own.

so?
you think development is easy.
it's easy to type on Nairaland but not to actually fix and yet you blame leaders who are just as less lazy than you. at least they applied for the job for their own benefit.

if you're not willing to put in the work then you don't deserve a better naija

Ehiscotch:
Listen (read), the only good thing about Mark is his "impositioning" of candidates and godfatherism has helped idoma people get a piece of the National cake.
Check, most federal appointments favour the idomas than the tivs but the tivs are better off locally than idomas. e. g Former Minister of interior (and David Mark's puppet) Abah Moro.

and that's why they keep voting for him

KingSango:
Laughing, all warnings are not doom sayings but simple cautions, yellow lights, means to slow down upon spending in this case and capital invest.

I wasn't mocking
just saying that the system resets every generation and wealth redistributed
if America stops consuming someone else will

Ehiscotch:
David Mark is in a position that can only be held by an Idoma man, so what are you saying?

sorry I meant appointments at federal and even state levels

Gotze1:
Well I don't know that. But I am not sure of that cos there will be yorubas working in his factory. So all these should stop.

there can never be Yoruba in Ibo factory. na Ibo clannishness you de take play

KingSango:
Hmmm....I didn't know this.

Better still, make your own products because the imploding of America will affect China too because America is China's biggest consumer.

Ase

Love Sango

the system will correct itself. no need for doomsaying. artificially high prices will adjust and living standards will rise everywhere

KingSango:
Greetings,

I have told you again and again what is coming. I have warned you and I pray that the APC has been listening. I pray that Buhari's government has been listening. This new tax reform is a weapon disguised a savior of America's flailing economy. What caused America to sway? The Rise of Africa along with the Southeast Pacific, which includes all of Southeast Asia's market where the Chinese have taken over. America's huge empire can not survive on rations, that is what tax cuts are, they cut the funds for vital government services while the bills remain the same. In other words, the cost of services or to do business, to re-supply does not reform. America is in bad economic shape and so is Europe who Brit just exited from the European Union and is suffering a migrant crisis. The West is crumbling, it can not win a war with North Korea backed militarily by Russia and China. America's massive aircraft carrier fleet is cancelled out by the countless islands and land locations where Russia and Chinese have military airstrips that can launch air raids against America fleets with ease using manless drones with no risk of life loss. Plus the Chinese have been building numerous artificial islands for that very same purpose. The writing on the wall for the Western economy has begun. This is a last ditch effort to deliberately implode their economy as predicted in the Simpson Cartoon which accurately predicted the election of Donald Trump. The Trump-het is blowing loudly for Nigeria to prepare itself, its citizenry and government, traditional and culture leaders must come up with innovative economic systems that would replace the loss of trade and business resulting from economic fall out from America. This is a very serious threat to the economic future of Nigeria who has just recently stabilized itself after border agents like Boko Haram,, whose violence set its society into a spiral, driven out of Nigeria by the Nigerian army. Coming off the heals of a recession Nigeria must adapt gradually to this new event. Believe American tax reform will drastically affect Nigeria in the long run although it seems far away from everyday Nigerian issues its really just takes a huge increase in import prices from America that would put a serious pinch on economic development instituted by the APC and other Nigerian political parties. Time to seriously consider restructuring.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXcYMvzZ7jk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKkY3q0kGmk

Ase

Love Sango

what trade do we have with America
we import everything from China

Ehiscotch:
I wonder why David Mark has not been arrested.

He has done little or nothing other than imposing candidates on Idoma people. Most of the political offices are held by his brothers or relatives.

I laugh when I hear him condemn impunity.

This man has zero to offer. A walk around his constituency and you'd be shocked how a Senate president for years hasn't attracted something to his constituency .

what are you talking.

Shebi he shared rice and they collected it.

and he satisfied their craving to have idoma man in office whether he delivers or not

Emyogalanya:
AGREE ON WHAT? THAT IGBO SHOULD REMAIN IN NIGERIA AS SLAVES? OR WHAT ? OR THAT THEY SHOULD AGREE THAT THE NORTH MUST BE STOPPED FROM USING WEST AS STOOGE

how are they slaves
do you work for free?

SalamRushdie:
It wont change , i dont see the average IQ improving but rather worsening ..nothing will change then except someone like me is in charge

what will you do if you're in charge
are you willing to get there

oooduancalmdown:
By 2030-which is 13 years time, Nigeria will not change from its present state.
Education system will still be in deplorable state.
Health care will be terrible.
Road will still be bad.
Electricity would be erratic.
There will still be fuel scarcity problems.
Health care workers, lecturers and other federal government workers would still have to go on strike before their government listen to their cries.
Can somebody refute all what I wrote?
A child born today will 13 years by 2030. He will become a teenager.
Would it be right for a normal child to grow up in such environment?

then change the environment instead of prophesying doom and gloom

ogashman:
I wonder why people re already sponsoring a boycott gtb campaign.the saga is yet to be resolved by the supreme court n yet u guys ve passed judgement on behalf of the court.

it wud ve been a different case if the supreme court had mandated gtb to pay Mr innoson and they declined. funny how people derive pleasure in bringing others down.

it might be surprising that those calling for the boycotting of gtb do not even know the minutest details of this case.

next time they use diplomacy to solve problem instead of abusing power

uglyafonja:
AFONJA land of hunger......

They claim to be the most developed but hunger is taking over their land....


High IGR......but very low per capital income

Milking the poor to make huge money for the govt...

Brown roof houses lithered everywhere...
..

land of hunger that is full of igbo ppl
what do you get from your politicians besides potopoto road