₦airaland Forum

9jaDoc:
U know, I kind of agree with you. I sometimes feel the whole Nigeria project needs to be scrapped and built up again from ground up. Or just replaced with something else. I sometimes feel we have to admit to ourselves that the Nigeria experiment has failed and start working to replace it with something else.

Toh as we no fit scrap living breathing human beings we need to stop lamenting and start fixing it.
not that hard if you know how
just need to be willing to

9jaDoc:
Corruption is embedded in the soul and fabric of NPF. It needs total overhaul like breaking up into smaller more manageable units. By the way the legal system and judiciary too.

woman, the whole naija needs overhauling
we just need 'good' ppl to do the overhauling

9jaDoc:
There are people always trying to compare the two countries when there is no comparison.
Yeah, it took them time but I don't think 9ja will ever get there unless they do something really drastic, like scrapping the whole NPF for starters.

you can't scrap an important institution like the police.even though I'd also wish we could. just look what happened when we recruited 300,000 new inexperienced policemen under obj. it just doesn't work.
you have to retrain the majority and change mainly the leadership and worst eggs.
we just need more dedicated leaders
for everything. it only takes one good guy, just one.
ask Singapore or Malaysia or Korea even Taiwan
I have a composite strategy using these countries' templates

9jaDoc:
Oh, nothing is impossible. The question is what are the chances of being caught and what are the chances of avoiding jail if caught. In 9ja the chances are excellent if u have money. In US the chances of u bribing the judge and avoiding jail are near zero.

agreed
all I'm saying is they've perfected it over 200 years
we're just starting
stop comparing and work with what we've got to improve

9jaDoc:
Listen, if u can easily obtain authentic documents in US as u can in 9ja, you'd be a dollar billionaire. Do u know how many cars you can obtain with just one set of documents. Do know how many bank credits, cell phones, even mortgages. Not to talk if collecting other people's tax returns, benefits and entitlements. Then credit cards, store cards, fuel cards, online accounts like PayPal, etc. Be serious

like I've said it all depends on how much it's worth to the individual
it's expensive in USA ,not impossible

MhizzAJ:
That's how their children will school abroad
Who are they leaving the country for?

Meanwhile a school has been on strike since God knows when

when you were supporting them you didn't know

9jaDoc:
Why do u folks like deceiving yourselves?
Here's the deal:
In US the average person won't even think of trying to obtain a fake passport because they know it is next to impossible. In Nigeria u can only expedite your passport by paying the tout outside the passport office and giving him your documents.

that's what I thought till I learnt you can get fake documents if you really want them. no system is infallible once humans are involved
stop deceiving yourself. In America the state is the tout and you pay for services just as we pay third party in Nigeria.one is pre paid the other is post paid

9jaDoc:
Try it in America. You have 99.9% of going to jail. In 9ja 0% - even if caught u bribe the judge. He will dismiss the case and seriously warn the prosecutor, depending on how much bribe u gave him.

that's what you've been made to believe. make the bribe fat enough and you'll get away with it.
same with Nigeria
improve the economy and salaries and corruption will go down

9jaDoc:
No we don't. I bet u I can get a passport in any name I wish in Nigeria

yes you can. same in America if you willing to do the wahala

9jaDoc:
But u should not even be mentioning US and 9ja in the same breath. It gives the impression there is a comparison. Those people u read UNINTENTIONALLY shot by police, their families got millions. Google it. In 9ja the police will kill already arrested suspects in their cells and u will hardly hear about it. If they accidentally kill u it ends there. No compensation or anything.
In US you can save almost 100% of your income if u wish and still survive fine. 9jas don't have that choice. You can also spend 150% of your income and be in debt . It's up to you.

they fought for such privileges. Nigerians not willing to fight for anything

9jaDoc:
You can't create credit or car rental without a highly reliable personal identification method and s highly reliable method of keeping track of a person's repayment history.

By the way I have updated the list:

1) rampant corruption everywhere
2) corrupt politicians
3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
cool yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38) poor and corrupt monetary system (black market)
39) Fulani herdsmen
40) military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
57) ineffective drug prescription system
58) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
59) very poor public healthcare sector
60) poor crime investigation process
61) poor forensics
62) poor record-keeping process
63) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
64) non-availability of student loans and work-study
65) non-existent credit system
66) non-existent car rental system
67) fraud-prone real estate - "this house is not for sale"
68) no substantial recompense for death or injury due to govt or police mistake or negligence
69) rampant jungle justice, sometimes on innocent people (could be u)
70) extremely high unemployment rate

we already have those things
we just lazy to put it to work

Shukuakukobambi:
E go better

one guy said his uncle said same in 1983.WE have to MAKE it better.

[quote author=Livefreeordieha post=63137208][/quote]fool

Shukuakukobambi:


No be only you my brother but oga dimma

what does Oga dimma mean

9jaDoc:
Here are some Nigerian ills. Please offer solutions for areas u have expertise or experience in

1) rampant corruption everywhere
improve economy
or jail perps


2) corrupt politicians improve economy or jail them

3) corrupt police
4) SARS
5) ritualists,
6) kidnappers,
7) conmen,
yahoo boys,
9) brazen robbers,
10) Boko Haram,
11) IPOB,
12) Delta Avengers,
13) baby factories,
14) child molesters,
15) child snatchers
16)human traffickers,
17) poor power supply,
18) ridiculous hospitals,
19) doctor strikes
20) poor schools, universities
21) poor infrastructure,
22) poor water supply,
23) poor waste disposal,
24) poor drainage system,
25) poor building inspection,
26) collapsing buildings,
27) dillapidated housing,
28) poor drug inspection,
29) poor food inspection,
30) poor environmentals
31) corrupt clearing and forwarding,
32) corrupt customs,
33) no mental healthcare
34) no provisions for handicapped people
35) corrupt legal system,
36) corrupt judiciary,
37) poor banking system, long lines
38)poor and corrupt monetary system,
39) Fulani herdsmen
40)military
41) aviation in general
42) MM Airport, Ikeja
43) Filthy and congested seaports (Apapa)
44) rampant strikes
45) fake everything
46) intermittent fuel scarcity
47) generator fumes and noise
48) corrupt FRSC
49) road blocks
50) Non-existent planned public transportation
51) fires and deaths from power surges
52) deaths from unsafe roads
53) In case of fire, long waits for poor response
54) In case of crime, long waits for police response
55) long waits for poorly equipped ambulances
56) very poor emergency healthcare
55) ineffective drug prescription system
56) totally corrupt govt bureaucracy
57) very poor public healthcare sector
58) poor crime investigation process
59) poor forensics
60) poor record-keeping process
61) poor and fraud-susceptible personal identification
62) non-availability of student loans and work-study
63) non-existent credit system

create one


64) non-existent car rental system

create one


65) Buhari (?)

in short just gather ppl and start donating towards all these things

Shukuakukobambi:
Its sad but the beautiful ones are not yet born

ah abeg o. I'm beautiful o. na how to wangle my way in and fix the one I can before I leave the stage. I'm not waiting for any messiah again after buhari and fashola fumble

powerkey:
APC = BOKO HARAM...

APC = FULANI TERRORISTS HERDSMEN.

APC = ACUTE HUNGER IN NIGERIA.

APC = NO LIGHT.

APC = FUEL INCREASE IN PRICE.

APC = NO FOOD.

APC = NO JOBS, LOSS OF JOBS.

APC = PEOPLE COMMITTING SUICIDE IN NIGERIA.

APC = LIES.

APC = PROPAGANDA.

APC = MILITARY KILLING CIVILIANS.

APC = SARS KILLING, CUTTING, AND SELLING HUMAN PARTS.

APC = MILITARY LEADING HERDSMEN TO WIPE COMMUNITIES.


APC = KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN AGATU.

APC = KILLED THOUSANDS IN SOUTH EAST.

APC = FAILED PARTY.

APC = FAILED GOVERNMENT.

PDP all of the above for 16 years

Shukuakukobambi:
I'll agree with you. I dont think that people will be motivated to vote in the next election. The front line candidates aren't inspiring

na real wa for our country. when will good men rise up

Built2last:
#ELECTION IS A GAME OF NUMBERS

2015 number of Registered Voters for election = 67,422,005

2015 number of Registered who came out to cast their votes = 28,278,083

2015 number of Registered who didn’t come out to vote = 39,143,922

2015 votes scored by Presidential candidates:
APC = 15,424,921
PDP = 12,853,162

APC won the election with 2,572,759. Too close to call.

Remove this winning figure from 39 million that never voted . You have over 37million that can cause damage to any political party

It is almost 3 years down the line these figures have changed, but to which direction?

Almost 40 million Nigerians did not vote. Who are they? Where are they and which party and candidates will they vote in 2019.

My prediction is that any party that penetrate social media and grassroot will win 2019.

even fewer ppl will vote in 2019

globemoney:
With all due respect I think this is a lie

are you in Sweden. how do you know it's a lie

ofeco:
why is it that we keep electing OLD men in a country where we have YOUNG and vibrant men (40-50). we keep recycling old men.

the young are not interested in election. thx think it will fall on platter of gold

valazino:
You mean your own mama right?
You should learn to respect parents,

Idiot!

so he should Respect a thief
na wa o
no wonder we are not progressing

DIKEnaWAR:
Buhari pretended to be leader of the talakawa , who eats and consort with them. He even showed his lean cattle and austere lifestyle.

Today he and his family have gone back to where they belong with the rich. They can't pretend anymore. Yet the poor are yet to see this.

We keep bringing out people from retirement and bankruptcy to become President, making them retire into stupendous wealth and unimaginable importance. After Buhari, let's give it to Shagari please. The man is now old and not too well to do, after serving his fatherland as a former President.

IBB, Abubakar and Shonekan still have remnants of their loots intact.


In other news, where is the wife of our 'National leader'? She should be here too cos it seems it is a gathering of the wives of owners of APC.

name another candidate that would've been better

Ojiofor:
Biafra is part of our diversity in thought.

OK

Alcatraz005:
Jonathan was ultra corrupt but things weren’t this bad.

Now Nigerians commit suicide like it’s no man’s business and we are being sold into slavery in Libya.

that's what we said about obj obj and abacha

money121:
Make sense

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LessNoise:
Politicians in this country are jokes......all of you using our heritage to play candy crush God will disgrace you all

but they need the heritage more than you apparently

RZArecta:
Some people will still come here and trash the message just because it came from Okupe a PDP member and not for any other logical reason

what does logic have to do with any social science

Ojiofor:
Oh really,diversity of thoughts becomes a crime when it concerns Ndigbo.

yes cos Yoruba live with the consequences, igbo will however be lamenting crying for biafra after diversifyIng their thoughts

Livefreeordieha:
you are just a loose canon and a retardeddddd gadamn son of a bitchhhhhh....Quote me anytime and i will say it over and over.. I will be the reason for your pains.

fool

Magdagascariens:
THAT'S THE PROBLEM! You all will stick to 'money bags' instead smart ENERGETIC minds.
I won't mention any names, but we both know Nigerians are generally far more intelligent than their leaders, and it's saddening.

This is my decision. I'M GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH MY SUPPORT AND VOTE this coming elections. MY PREFERRED CANDIDATES DON'T NECESSARY HAVE TO WIN!

you don't have any names
you will still choose among these crooks
even not voting is a vote for whoever wins. stop dreaming that messiah will fall from heaven