₦airaland Forum

KingSango:
Help your nation and West Africa without thinking of reward.

only socialists think like this
and that is why they don't succeed

We need heroes not more greedy businessmen.

we need more greedy businessmen actually
invisible hand and charity will take care of rest
heroes need rewards to remain motivated otherwise they become monsters

Ase

Love Sango

KingSango:
Then bring a proposal to Nigerians. Muster your forces and form these worker cooperatives in farming and other natural resources areas.

still working on how to do it from New York

Desyner:
Your reasoning is northern in nature.

no my thinking is factual
yours is sentimental
I used to be like you
not your fault since that's all you know
hope you can expand your horizon
Cos you need knowledge to fight your opponent effectively

Desyner:
So islamist going after people is cool to you?

never said its cool.
but won't stop them from going after new members.
survival of the fittest
the same way Christianity evangelises
one uses sugar the other vinegar

KingSango:
The Mondragon Corporation is a corporation and federation of worker cooperatives based in the Basque region of Spain. It was founded in the town of Mondragon in 1956 by graduates of a local technical college. Its first product was paraffin heaters. It is the tenth-largest Spanish company in terms of asset turnover and the leading business group in the Basque Country. At the end of 2014, it employed 74,117 people in 257 companies and organizations in four areas of activity: finance, industry, retail and knowledge.[3] By 2015, 74,335 people were employed.

Exactly.

worth 17 billion a few years ago with just 80,000 members

Desyner:
I see why islam goes after people and not 'God'.

why would religion go after God .religion goes after people

KingSango:
Most certainly a product of socialism.

But capitalism makes people very individualistic, anti-social, human eaters, and believe they can overthrow the King.

Accepting Whiteman's terms accepts all the bad that comes with his demonic theories. Nothing the savage ever had do we need to build economy and civilization. Nothing.

Ase

Love Sango

it is not Whitman o
it's nature

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KingSango:
There's benefits in everything. Stop thinking in European terms and invent your own equations and scripts.

of course there is benefit for the lazy which makes the hardworking feel stupid and also become lazy

KingSango:
I have done this and more in my mind only need to put it on paper for a strong proposal.

me too
google the Mondragon cooperative

deji17:
Hahahahahhaha. Pretend like you go school nau. You are "wicked".

but is true now.

Desyner:
The reason the northerners are easily brainwashed is people like you who speak good english but use it to concoct rotten logic.

wetin concine logic with fact.
survival of the fittest has existed since Adam and eve

they are survivin
you're lamenting
instead of strategising and fighting back
good luck

Adminisher:
The cost transportation is annoying. You cannot build a $40million pipeline to a $10million refinery for each refinery. People are not thinking. It is even the transport cost that makes modular refineries unworkable. They will receive crude from terminals and crude oil quality control centres by BARGE. That is the only way...and my friend, it is extremely STUPID

what about cluster of modulars
you only need the one 40 mill pipe then everybody will joins up with their own 1 mill pipe. or everyone cluster in Niger delta.
stupid is waiting till you have 9 billion before refining

emmie14:
Unique when compared to politicians in other sane countries

not really, you cannot compare 16 year old democracy with 2 to 400 year democracy

oooduancalmdown:
Again, you don't know what you are saying

but you get internet now. try use Google small na.

Norway is a capitalist nation
welfarism is not same as socialism
educate yourself on the difference

oooduancalmdown:
Again, you don't know what you are saying

it is you that doesn't know

Who is holding you.
Invest na

KingSango:
The gist is combing number 1 with number 2 in comprehensive and effective manner.

tis the only way

BlessMySoul:
Now this church am talking about here is Redeemed Christian Church Of God and Winners Chapel.

Personally am working on a document I will release very soon. This documents contain all the names of all their regional pastors in the East of the Niger. I can authoritatively tell you that 90% of them are from a particular tribe in Nigeria. From Rivers To Owerri To Awka To Onitsha To Nnewi To Okigwe To Umuahia To Asaba To Ekwulobia To Orlu To Abakaliki To Afikpo To Enugu To Aba. They Collect 10% of Igbo salaries and what the Federal government pays to the Eastern region.

Now it is a known Fact that Igbos are traditionally either Catholics or Anglicans or Traditional worshipers who engage in the African Traditional Religion.

But over the years, the Redeemed Christian Church of God is making incursions in the East stealing members from the Catholic church which is the mother church of the East. Same goes with Winners Chapel.

I'm catholic but stealing? Really?

This is where it gets tricky. After collecting all these 10% of salaries from the Eastern region, none of them feels it rewarding to invest in the East viz a viz University or Any other church investment. The Catholic Church which is known to be more motherly in nature and a church of the universe has established motherless babies, employment centres and skill acquisitions Centres all over Nigeria. the east is not really a good investment in east. Investment is for profit not tribal sentiment.
Ask veritas university that relocated to Abuja(1000 students after 1 year) from abia(270 students after 7 years)
Doesn't make economic sense

Have you noticed that Redeemed Church does not have any University in any other place in Nigeria except in Yorubaland? You think its miscalculation? Same goes with Winners. You know they are cunningly smart and always scheming there way to peoples finances.

How many universities does it have
How many primary or secondary schools

You think am being tribal? I have literally heard someone make a comment that the East is not economically viable. Many Yorubas say this on this Forum. This is the mindset of the average person from that side.

If it were they wouldn't invade the other parts of the country

The East is not economically viable for investments but the East is viable for Church establishments in all the streets? And after the collection of the money monthly, it is sent back to their regional headquarters in the West for the establishment of investments in their zones? If we say you don't have sense you will take offense

Now Do you know why all their regional pastors the whole East and Nigeria at large is from their zone? Its to make sure that their investment is secured and protected. This is a family investment and a regional business that is used to draw resources from other regions back to their regions. Am saying the truth.

Ndigbo Please wise up and get smart. Stop trying to form Behind and posh. I am not Satan or A demon. This is their mindset and actions that am exposing to you people. Anything that you are doing that will make Forex leave Igboland should be a No No. I have dealt enough with this people both from the North and West and I know how they think. I have workee with them in different establishments Nd I can tell you that nobody is more clannish than them. They want to muscle you out mentally, psychologically and financially.

Ndigbo, what will you people do about the Money leaving our region while being deceived that it is for Jesus and For God? So we need churches all over our street but no university? No construction of main roads as they use our tithe and do in their own?

KingSango:
1. People must invest in themselves in small increments into one pot with their local leadership to form capital investment. Small groups at first and then plot a trajectory of gathering more people as profits from investments grow to accommodate more people.

Cooperative or corporations

2. Lower the price on every single good and service. Offer a discounts as oppose to hand outs. This way businesses generate more costumers and increase profits. Consumers have more money in their pocketbooks and can start to save, buy more or start their own businesses.

Result of division of labour and economies of scale

That is just the beginning, it is much more detailed than that but those are two of the key points of the proposal.

I've got the gist
same with my plan.start small
Scale up

KingSango:
Sango is passion. Passion is fire. Passions color is red. Benefits motivate people.

no benefit in socialist dominated country

AdeniyiA:
Twenty-one senators currently receiving pensions from government as ex-governors and deputy governors.
The current senators who once served as governors are Bukola Saraki of Kwara, Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso of Kano, Kabiru Gaya of Kano, Godswill Akpabio of Akwa Ibom, Theodore Orji of Abia, Abdullahi Adamu of Nasarawa, Sam Egwu of Ebonyi, Shaaba Lafiagi of Kwara, Joshua Dariye of Plateau Jonah Jang of Plateau, Aliyu Magatakarda Wamakko of Sokoto, Ahmed Sani Yarima of Zamfara, Danjuma Goje of Gombe, Bukar Abba Ibrahim of Yobe, Adamu Aliero of Kebbi, George Akume of Benue.
The former deputy governors in the Senate are Ms Biodun Olujimi of Ekiti and Enyinaya Harcourt Abaribe of Abia. Danladi Abubakar Sani served as the acting governor of Taraba state.
Many former governors are also in Buhari's Cabinet as Ministers. This includes: Ngige, Fayemi, Amaechi and Fashola (SAN).).
In Akwa Ibom State, the law provides that ex governors and deputy governors receive pension equivalent to the salaries of the incumbent. The package also includes a new official car and a utility vehicle every four years; one personal aide; a cook, chauffeurs and security guards for the governor at a sum not exceeding N5 million per month and N2.5 million for his deputy governor.
In Rivers, the law provides 100 percent of annual basic salaries for the ex-governor and deputy, one residential house for the former governor “anywhere of his choice in Nigeria”; one residential house anywhere in Rivers for the deputy, three cars for the ex-governor every four years and two cars for the deputy every four years.
It is alledged that in Lagos, a former governor will get two houses, one in Lagos and another in Abuja, estimated at N500 million in Lagos and N700 million in Abuja. He also receives six new cars to be replaced every three years; a furniture allowance of 300 percent of annual salary to be paid every two years, and a N30 million pension annually for life.
This is the reality for all the 21 ex govenors and deputy governors who are currently serving as senators. This same is also true of ex governors who are now serving as Ministers.
NOW I ASK:
How many years did these guys serve their states as governors and deputy governors? Is it more than 8years? Is that a reason to be entitled to pensions for life? Even if they are entitled to pension for life, must it be so outrageous?
As if that is not enough: HOW on earth can any public servant with conscience collect salaries and allowances as a senator or minister, and still have the audacity to claim pensions equivalent to the salaries of a serving governor in Nigeria?
IT ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE......
Once you are elected a senator or appointed a minister, you must forfeit any pension accruing to you from government at any level until you vacate office. This should also apply to senators collecting military pensions like former Senate President David Mark.
Yet these senators are in the Senate that is inviting the current finance minister to discuss the recession of Nigeria's economy. A senator pockets approximately 30 million naira monthly as salary and allowances. Our "honourables" are not interested to make laws that could restructure our country into economically autonomous federating States/Regions to save the country from sectional agitations that is threatening to destroy Nigeria. The sad and hopeless situation is that the rest of Nigerians are busy arguing based on party, ethnic and affiliations while these enemies of state continue to rape us.
Do you know that it costs tax payers 290m Naira yearly to maintain each member of our National Assembly in a country where nothing works & 80% of population earn below 300 Naira a day ? A working day earning of a senator is more than a yearly income of a doctor; it's more than the salary of 42 Army generals or 48 professors or 70 commissioners of police or more than twice the pay of the US President or 9 times the salary of US congressmen.
It's high time the country had a referendum on those outrageous salaries of Senators, House of Representative members and other political office holders.holders.
*lf you are seriously against the looting of our
commonwealth in Nigeria, in the name of democracy=
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then what will happen

KingSango:
Implementation is requires power and self control.

this is poor ppl problem world over. Zero motivation

KingSango:
The issue is the ordinary Nigerians don't save enough to have capital investment therefore always struggling so the established businesses can't grow either. If you lower the price of food then the price of fuel goes up because it takes fuel to run trucks to deliver, tractors to work fields, and to run machinery. But there is a solution.

remove govt restrictions and 'big ' investors will sort electricity which will encourage manufacturing which will provide jobs.

Lack of savings is govt (socialist) fault cos ppl keep hoping for manna to fall from govt instead of solving their problems themselves. Cruel.

And you haven't mentioned your solution

SalamRushdie:
Fix electricity before all this shallow uninformed talk....Poor elecrticity suppylly is actually the biggest problem of TV advertising industry for now than anything else, I should know this because I earn a living from this field currently

lack of broadband not electricity

Nutase:
This Nigeria have taya me. I am going to my mums country.

bye-bye

KingSango:
That's the old thinking and it hasn't worked for lifting up any African nation.

thinking not same as implementation

KingSango:
There's plenty of capitalistic investments though.

all depending on crucially on socialist govt. (electricity, railways,river Niger licensing,ports congestion,) so private investments remains very ineffective

emmie14:
Political, economic and financial analysis in Nigeria does not conform with day to day governance. Nigeria and it's administrators are unpredictable, selfish and wicked. Their system of government is critically unique.

nothing unique. They respond to voters. Voters want rice. End of story

KingSango:
That's the old thinking and it hasn't worked for lifting up any African nation.

there is no capitalist African nation

cetzak:
We want know the names of those School

university of 36 states and Abuja. Pretend like you go school na

rusher14:
Fashola is quite a brilliant administrator.

The universities would benefit from independent power supply away from the national grid as well as putting less burden on it.

The Senate is always in a hurry to poopoo any idea that benefits the masses especially when they cannot find how it would line their own pockets.

then he should settle them their 10% sharperly abeg

I personally believe oyinbo has warned them to stop fash cos once unis are powered then estates can also go off grid making Nepa irrelevant