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Kloppo:
Mikuz,are you not fvcking entertained?

Hattrick in 25mins!!!!

Shebi you guys said pre season matches are inconsequential.

Jodera:
Lol, it's easy to get the 250k na. What are you saying.
Mane is a big player, going to another big club that wanted him. Obviously his salary will increase. No big player going to a big club(that wanted them) won't have his salary at least doubled. So Mane agent no do any miracle.

2.. That's how I believe one can judge the strength of a league. If you've any other criteria on how we can compare, you can bring it up let's hear it.

3.. Diaz have shown glimpses that he can perform in that role. He might not give Mane number or workrate but he might definitely bring something that can take Liverpool higher. Also, I believe this is the best time to sell Mane if there's any time he needed to be sold. Good clubs knew when to sell their players and bring new good ones to replace them

4... Lol, if Mane agent go Mumu himself for Bayern side, na even less than 100k prime Mane go receive sef

5... Because Mane said he wants to leave. And out of respect for his wishes, Liverpool obliged. Or are you saying Liverpool forced him out cos of wages?

Mind you, this isn't a Diaz Vs Mane comparison, so it doesn't warrant placing them side by side

1. How is it easy to get 250k? Even with Lewandoski's legendary status, he didn't earn more than that amount before he left for Barcelona. Even at Barcelona he's going to earn 160k, so how is easy to get 250k for a 30 year old.Hold.He is also a big player going to a big club, instead of getting his salary doubled it was getting halfed.

2. Take the last decade for instance. Real Madrid has won more CL trophies than any other club likewise Sevilla with the Europa League so going with your logic, Spanish league is stronger than the English League. No?

3. Which glimpses? Mane face Madrid in 2018 CL final and scored the equaliser. Diaz faces a weaker Madrid team playing from Mane's position in the final again and ghosted throughout. No be only glimpses na twinkles

4. He no mumu for Liverpool. Na we no know him worth.

5. It's because he's tired of being paid peanuts that he opted to leave. He's getting old, it's time to jilt the passion and start cashing out while he can. He has paid his dues for Liverpool, it's about time he starts receiving the right royalties for his skills.

You said why should Liverpool keep Mane when they can sign Diaz, meaning he's a better option. So let's place them side by side. Why would you choose to replace a player still producing results because of his age?
Lewy is 33, this means after he hit 30 for the past 3 years he has been producing results for Bayern. If they had sold him at 30 they couldn't have been where they are now. If Lewy can help Bayern win the Champions League at 31,why can't Mane do it at Liverpool?

Jodera:
1.. Reason why I said blame his agent not Liverpool. There's a reason top agents like Late Raiola and Mendez are highly rated and there's a reason some people are sacking their agents.

2.. The difference is that Man city mostly win their league last day of the season unlike Bayern
The difference is that in the past 5 years, at least an English team always make the last four in the UCL not named Man city unlike their German counterparts not named Bayern. That's to tell you the strength of the league

3.. Are you a Mane fan first before Liverpool or a Liverpool fan first before Mane? Cos I don't understand
Klopp is trying to ensure that there's quality and squad depth and that's why they're Signings quality. Firmino was a first 11, but Jota was bought and with time he benched him. Minanino was bought but he couldn't bench Salah. Now they've bought Diaz and he displaced Mane to a new position. Why are you now making it seem as if only Mane was witch-hunted?

4... How many players have Bayern bought and paid 400k?. I'm not sure even prime lewy was given 400k in his first contract

5.. Salah deserves the 350k he's earning. I don't know why Mane presently deserve more than 250k sha.

Don't worry about regretting. I no know why you deh disturb yourself. Liverpool is on the ascendency and while Mane will be missed, it's not too much the way you're saying it.

If you do a poll here , most Liverpool fans will prefer keeping Salah and losing Mane than vice versa

1. The same agent who can't get Liverpool to pay Mane 200k in his prime is the same the same agent who convinced Bayern that he's worth 250k at 30? Which is more difficult to do? You think say na beans to convince top club like Bayern to pay 250k for a 30 year old?

2. Are we judging both leagues through the lens of the Champions League or we are laying them side by side. Tell me o . . 'cause I get a trailer load of points to counter that angle.

3. Jota was way better than Firmino, no issues there. Minamino can't replace Salah even in his widest dreams, no issues there but how do we prove beyond reasonable doubt that Diaz who is a JJC can confidently replace our club legend?

4. Even if you don't pay him 400k . . 100k is no good either. No way Bayern could have paid prime Mane 100k. Not Bayern!!

5. Ok you agree that Mane is worth up to 250k? What stops Liverpool from paying that to him. A labourer deserves his wages.

If you place Mane and Diaz side by side, majority will take Mane.

Jodera:
1... He's the "greatest Senegalese" to play. That one na for him pocket and him Senegalese people. He's a great player and a legend for Liverpool and one of EPL best players. Simple.
Abi you think say Salah worth the 350k a week because "he's the greatest Egyptian to ever Grace the EPL"?

2.. I said call me any player in EPL that worth 300k and above let's see whether dem be average compared to Mane. Moreover, I told you wage structure for clubs are different so I don't know why you're calling Werner. A Werner won't see the amount in Liverpool or man city with their wage structure.

3. I didn't say Diaz will win league or not, I just said he have shown signs of replacing Mane so that you guys won't feel his loss that much. That's how a good club is run.

4. EPL is a fast paced league and it's a league that presently have the most of the current best players assembled by best current coaches at their prime. Meaning the best coaches currently who in turn makes great teams are situated presently in epl. You can't compare them to Serie A in any aspect at all where we no even know the current best coaches or crop of best players. That an Ibra (a striker) of 41 years is still playing there tells you how slow paced that league is which is convenient for guys like Giroud and others.

5.. Lol, you're seeing this through the lens of "Mane must stay at Liverpool at all cost" when even Mane doesn't see it that way . When Liverpool was negotiating deal with Mane for an improved contract, an offer came from Bayern. Mane then made his intention known that he'll want to leave and go to Bayern. Liverpool didn't even want to sell Mane sef but have to respect Mane wishes just because of the legend he is and all what he has done for them. So yes, I believe they would have reached a compromise at maybe 250 or so if not for Bayern's interest and Mane wanting to leave

So don't blame the decision on Liverpool but Mane who wanted to leave following Bayern's interest

Show me a striker who has helped his team win everything in club football being paid 100k.

No be only face paced EPL, na Cheeter EPL. League wey City dey win like water. In the past 5 years : Man City 4/5, Bayern 5/5, what's the difference?

Liverpool won't have bought Diaz if they had long term plans for Mane. You wanted to increase his salary yet you bought his replacement 1.5 years before his contact expiration, who does that?

Bayern are paying 250k for a 30 year old player they just bought. Imagine if they had signed Mane in his prime. Na 400k dem for dey pay him by now. They are not simpletons, they know his worth.

Liverpool were not ready to pay him more than 250k that's why he left. You are going to make Salah the highest paid player on the EPL yet you can't pay Mane 250k. No be so bros.

I hope we don't pay dearly for letting Mane go.

Jodera:
Lol ..
1.How many Senegalese players played in Liverpool aside Mane?. Maybe one or two and the only person I know is Diouf. So even if the total is 3 sef, do you see that the sample is small? It's just like saying Salah is the best Egyptian to play in Liverpool when obviously he's the only candidate

2.. You're shouting 300k for Mane. This is for high standard players. Would you give someone 300k just because he's a legend and not because of what he's expected to offer? Only Salah merits that presently in Liverpool and that's fact. Meanwhile, give me players in this EPL earning 300k lemme see. I'll be waiting

3.. Are you comparing Serie A slow paced league to EPL?. Giroud can go and shine there at 35 or so, but he can't try that in EPL. Even Mane will shine in bundesliga seeing that he's in a best team and the disparity in strength between Bayern and others is very very high. Same can't be said for Liverpool and EPL where one needs to up his game every week

Finally, I'm not disputing Mane legendary status. I support Liverpool for not giving Mane 300k solely because; he's a legend, he's the best Senegalese player, he scored fastest hattrick and bla bla bla.

There's more to that to worth that amount especially in a club like Liverpool who have wage structure

Mane is the greatest Senegalese player to play in the Premier league. He's not the only candidate.

Mane is a 300k player, don't be deceived. If Timo Werner can earn 272k what more a more talented player like Mane. He got less than he deserved at Liverpool,that's a fact. You are confident that Diaz will win us the league yet you lack faith in Mane who has been tested and trusted. I laugh.

What's so special about the EPL when Man City is running riot over there every season? They finally turned the almighty EPL to a one man show, winning it 4 times in 5 years. They even won it last season without a striker. So what's so special about the EPL again? Even if they bench Haaland and play Zlatan as top striker they might likely win it if we don't mount a reasonable challenge this term. More over, there is no much difference in the EPL last season and Burndesliga so how do you justify the difference in strength between Bayern and other teams?

Let us even forget the 300k. Assuming we offered him about the same amount Bayern are paying him now he would have still been a Liverpool player.

Jodera:
Football no dey do emotions. They're always doing what is best for business. Contracts is based on expected potential and not past records. In fact, some of the records you talked about wasn't even done in Liverpool while some he made it by virtue of him being a Senegalese player. So na all that things dem go look if dem wan dash am 300k? Because of emotional sentiments?

Bayern needs him cos They're losing Lewandowski. Liverpool is shrewdly selling a player at the wrong side of age (30yrs), while getting a good player in Diaz. You should be happy that you've a player for the future instead of being stuck in the past with Mane.

And yes, Mane wasn't at his very best this season before being drafted to CF. He wasn't also even great last season as well. I don't know why you feel Liverpool should give him 300k. The only person deserving of that amount is Salah and rightly so.
That doesn't stop him from being a legend or one of Liverpool's best players of this era

Just wish Mane success and wish your Diaz and Nunez success here too. It's that simple

No be emotions, his records speak for him. He was a legend at Liverpool, you cannot take that away from him no matter what you say. Na you dey even talk with sentiments the way you are selling him short. For example which of the records did he not achieve at Liverpool? Is he the only Senegalese player to grace the EPL?

Quit with this talk about Mane being 30 that's why we sold him please, e no gel. Oliver Giroud was 35 when he transferred to Milan, he went there and delivered the league to them. Diego Milito was 30 when he moved to Inter Milan,he came and delivered the league and Champions league.
There are many other players over 30 out there who transferred and excelled.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't think age will stop Mane from delivering too at Bayern.

Bayern did not buy Mane because Lewy was leaving, they bought him because he was a legend at Liverpool. He is a quality player and a complete footballer. Besides there are many strikers willing to play for a top club like Bayern, yet they went for Mane. There is a good reason for that.
Last season Harry Kane played 37 games in the league and scored 17 goals, Mane played 34 and scored 16, but Kane had a good season but Mane should be sold because he had a terrible league season.

That Mane doesn't post Salah numbers should not stop him from earning 300k. He deserves it. Most players in the league are not half as good as Mane yet they earn twice as him.

I don't wish anyone failure bros, just calling a spade a spade. Datz all.

kendrick93:
I'm very sure he would have been earning over a 200 grand if he had agreed to sign a new one...
Besides Liverpool salary is heavily performance base..
So using his base salary of 100k or whatever is nonsense...
He earns much more than 100k every week that I'm sure of

You are sure of this, you are sure of that but no proof to back it up. How you come up with so many sure things without concrete evidence is beyond me.

Even with all these nobody is bold enough to give us the real figure. Of all Liverpool players why is Mane's salary the only one that's undisclosed. Is he a cultist?

Jodera:
It's not a must for a club to approve especially as they've found someone that can potentially replace him easily (Diaz)

Heard of this proverb: "strike while the iron is hot"

The time for Mane to have receive close to 200k and above is around 2017 or so and not now that he's 30yrs old and already have a replacement balling

Even Salah would have been ditched having reached the wrong side of age and asking for that amount if he wasn't producing balon d'Or numbers (highest goalscorer and assist award)

- Fastest hatrick in the Premier League
- Liverpool's record scorer away from home in the Champions league
- The Senegalese player with the most goals in the Champions League
- Premier League record - the first player to score in nine consecutive league games against the same opponent.
- Second player to score away hatrick in CL.


A prophet is not recognised in his home town.
This disrespect for Mane is disturbing. A club legend?

He asked for salary increase, you did not only reject it ,you went ahead to buy his replacement and pushed him from his natural position to accommodate his replacement. If that's not disrespect then I don't know what it is.

Bayern have given us a sample of how a club should treat a legend, they are not only going to pay him more than twice his salary at Liverpool, they broke their transfer policy just to sign him.
Diaz can not replace Mane even with age on his side, anyone who tells you otherwise is playing himself. Time will vindicate me.

Liverpool no try abeg

Jodera:
Lol, I wish it can but it doesn't work that way. That's why it's always good to have good agents

Ok fine. Now that he has asked for increase why didn't they approve it instead of letting him go?

Jodera:
He isn't replacing Mane. That is Diaz

Mane was a left winger while Nunez is a striker.
So if you wan put eye for anybody it should be Diaz

Given our formation, how would you play Mane, Salah and Diaz in the front 3 without benching anyone?

The disrespect for Mane in this thread is disturbing.

Jodera:
Lol, you still don't get where I'm driving at?

Salah came 2017 and was earning around 90-100k. Before he signed this new contract worth 350-400k he was already earning around 200k. What does that tells you?
It means Salah have already signed an improved contract from that 90/100k to around 200k as he was banging in those performances. Now he has improved his contract again from 200k to around 350-400k.

What did Mane agent do all these while for his client?

Liverpool can still go ahead and increase his salary without receiving a request from his agent as a form of extra motivation bros

kendrick93:
LMAO..
someone earning a 100k grand plus other bonuses is what you call mistreated..
what would you then call someone earning below a minimum wage?

I hope you don't own a company cos you go pay your employees peanuts. Paying a club legend 100k is worse than mal treatment it is SLAVERY.

Mane is not just "someone" he is a club legend.

BlaqFaze:
Mane just too humble, he just wan leave Liverpool on a good note...so na why him PR agent talk that nonsense to mask his salary

You too get sense abeg

Jodera:
He stayed for 6yrs at Liverpool. SIX WHOLE YEARS!!

For them to think about improving their contract now after 6yrs is nothing short of short-changing.

I mean, even Salah that came a year or two after him have demanded for an improved contract. Bruno Fernandez that came to man u just 2 seasons ago have already improved his contract again. Mane Fvcked up walahi.
Cos if na me be Mane, with all wetin I dey do for Liverpool, nothing less 180k as at last two seasons.

I for don faya my agent tey tey

No be everybody dey see wetin he dey do for Liverpool na. Besides there are people on this thread me and you dey so claiming that his has under performed over the past 18 months.

Mane and Salah asked for their salaries to be increased to 400k each if they are to remain in the club, Salah's request was approved but they rejected Mane's own. So he felt bad and left.

Jodera:


Mane money na secret cult for Liverpool.

Jodera:
Lol, will you blame Liverpool or Mane and his agent?

Me I'll blame the latter. It's never Liverpool's fault that Mane and his agent decided to short-change themselves all these years. No wonder carragher called him "high performance with low maintenance"


Well, in terms of being mistreated, in what way was he mistreated?
Was he benched unnecessarily?
Was he not paid?
Was he not loved by the fans or the club hierarchy?

I don't get how he was mistreated sha

They didn't short-change themselves, they requested for increase but Liverpool refused,that's why he left.

Kloppo:
Guy rest,this is getting stale....he is no longer our player and salary was not the reason he left...

Ok sir

Kloppo:
He signed for 5-6years and not 60mins he has played in preseason or 1year contract...

He needs time to acclimatize to a new league, Liverpool's system and tactics and new teammates....Everyone cannot be like Diaz who adapted so quickly and even with him,we know he had some parts of his game to improve on for Liverpool and that wouldn't come in a short time...

Fear?for what now....I believe the guy and I think he will outscore mane

Have I commented about his performance so far? That you claim I'm trolling him is outrageous to say the least, shebi una say any performance is pre season is inconsequential? So where you are getting that from is beyond me.

I also pray his outperforms Mane too for the greater good, so don't get it twisted please

maynation:
Long and short, are you saying Mane was earning £100k? Even after renewing his contract in 2018?
This is silly to imagine na.

But it's not silly to not disclose his new contract.

Other players contract will get renewed and we will hear about it but when it comes to Mane it becomes secret cult. Is Mane an ogboni member? Is this not part of the mal treatment we have been talking about?

Kloppo:
Unto say,Na your personal money them take sign am? Niiga you funny ooo,even other club fans never dey troll am the way you're doing already....

You call that trolling? No be trolling bros!

Since na him dey replace Mane, so he better be at par or above him, anything other than that will not be accepted by me.

Besides, we can't spend that much on him and watch him fail. He must deliver under must.

Why you dey fear

Kloppo:
Lool,how can you be a fan and you're running a FAKE agenda on your team ,so you actually believe mane was earning that amount

Which fake agenda? How is it fake?

Bayern have already revealed a £250,000 weekly wage package for Mane, but we don't know what Mane earned at Liverpool after 6 years. Is that what you are telling me?

Minemrys:
No footballers wages is disclosed. Even the figures you see are even disputed. There are clauses in wages, tax etc that determine it, so don't assume you know.

I brought UK doctors for you to understand that, those who actually save lives don't receive what footballers earn in a year.
If you think Mane was being mistreated, I can brag to you that the money Adrian or Kelleher who are not regular starters are being paid for a month, your current job can't give you that in 50 years. It's not an insult but to show you no one is being mistreated.
Check what footballers earned back in the 80s and 90s.
I just don't like arguing what I don't know and a players wages, no one knows but their agent and them. Estimated figures are what the media circulate around.
There are clauses, tax cuts or whatever and bonuses that determine the weekly wages so don't act like you have the information.
And Mane's PR agent works for Mane not Liverpool, if Mane was being mistreated, he wouldn't have denied it.
Mane's salary is 100k, he pays UK taxes and still has a lot of money to do charity in Senegal, own houses in Spain and Liverpool. Bros, you sef reason am. Abi na starve him dey starve na.

What are you even saying, which kind agenda be this?
How do I respond to this?

Salah is now the highest paid player in the EPL, but when e reach Mane turn it becomes secret cult. Bet why

Jodera:


Haba na, but Nunez isn't meant to replace Mane na, why you wan come vex for am?. It's Diaz if I'm not mistaken.

But then, I would need to know what the reason is why you want to felt mane was not treated well

He was mistreated and unappreciated. Even Milner earned higher than him.

Harry Kane played 37 games last season and scored 17
Mane played 34 and scored 16 goals but Mane underperformed?
My eyes have seen.

Minemrys:
If he was under appreciated, his PR agent wouldn't deny it would he?
Bros, if you think he was underpaid, ask yourself what medical practitioners earn in the UK. You don't know the figures, don't act like you do when his agent already said it.

What's my business with UK doctors? Are we discussing doctors or footballers.

Mane is the only player whose salary is undisclosed and that is ok to you.

BlaqFaze:
Make the agent talk the salary and not some stupid excuses... imagine carrying us to when e dey Southampton, dey cap nonsense...the agent nor sabi lie sef

No too blame the guy . . Dem do blood oath say if he say the real figure he go die

Mane is a Liverpool legend, how people are saying terrible thing about him now beats me.

Last season he was the second highest goal scorer for Liverpool. He was the 5th highest goal scorer in the EPL only 1 goal behind Harry Kane who was the only natural number 9 on the list. Harry Kane scored 17, Mane scored 16 but Mane was a disappointment.

Some jokes write themselves. A top club like Bayern Munich won't have signed him if he was not world class

Kloppo:
You're not a Liverpool fan but a troll,Rest!!!

He must win me over

BlaqFaze:
The or agent should at least say an amount to back up his claims

That agent na real PR agent. He no go talk anything.

EgusiShankly:
Drop an authentic link to your source.

While at it, I will drop this here

All these ones na PR stunts. So what's the real figure?

EgusiShankly:
Care to explain how Mane was treated?

He was very much under appreciated. 100k for a club legend? That's abysmal.