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No no no way...we dnt mactunji as a mod here...to hell with his apology...if Seun doesnt change him in d next 72hrs,am leaving NL straightaway!

tbaba1234: There was no life threat, mr man.

With the kinds of obnoxious things, some people regurgitate on this forum.. It is actually a miracle that only Ayatullah reacted angrily. Visit muslim threads that make front page sometimes.

I am a very gentle person but if you insult my mum in my presence, you would probably end up with a fist in your face (unless you are 7ft, 500lbs). Anger is a natural reaction to certain things but of course there are limits which must be observed.

You can insult me personally but you cross the line when you insult those i love.

am sorry,bt u r hypocrites!
I wld v ask u to go see my reply to dt ayatollah guy if nt dt d thread has been locked!
It is quite a shame on u guys, threathened somebody for voicing out His opinion in a public forum!
No matter d threat u guys trash out,it cant change who ur prophet was,it cnt change anything,everybody knws d truth and u guys shld better accept it and go on!
If someone abuses ur parenst,u think d best thing to do is to threaten d LIFE(which u cnt creat)of such person with death? Will ur parents even support that?(tho i wnt b surprised if dey do) I cnt just believ dis...
tbaba,u r one of d few muslims i respect so much in dis forum,bt with this,guy,u v lost it man,damn it!
I am sure many of u guys will b rejoicing nw dt 'tinji, has been made a mod here...it shows how intolerant and insecure u guys are!

If christains also retaliate in d same proportion u guys blaspheme against Jesus,do u think this world wld b a better place to live in?
Let me show what u guys say that is 'blasphemy' to christains:
1. Saying that Jesus is nt d Saviour even when He is!
2. Saying that Jesus is nt Lord even when He is!
3. Saying that He did nt die or resurect even when all facts and history showd tht He did!
4. Saying that d Bible is corrupt even when it is not!
5. Saying that ur prophet is d comforter PROMISED by Jesus even WHEN HE IS NOT!
6. Saying that Jesus is a messenger even when He is not!
I can continue...yet do u sse any christain kill muslim or threaten Seun bcus of the above!
Hypocrites!

D fact is no matter how much you blasphame against Jesus,it CANNOT CHANGE who He is...this my own understand as a Christain!

Am begining to hate this NL,Lord help me not too!

May Lord have mercy on you all!

I think it is time i vacate NL,what, as in seriously,mac, mod here...mayb am dreaming!
I take it that seun has no respect for christainity and other religion at all!
Makin mac a mod here is just like making osama d preisdent of d USA!
I pray NL will nt go into extinction soon...bcus d wrath of God is descending pretty fast!

i cant believ this!

frosbel: Our problem is not Muslims or ISLAM, our problem is the many false and heretical doctrines in the church and bad examples from many so called Christians.

Until we return to the true faith of Jesus, we will keep going round n circles.

the problem is not d muslims,Jesus died for them too, d problem is "d spirit of Islam"..."the spirit behind muslim"...
D spirit is a very powerful one,it will only take d Spirit of Jesus to cast it out!!

deols: I didnt read all you wrote. I stand by what I wrote previously. The lady in question is grown up and I believe is wise enough to know what is good for her.

yes true,charity is grown up,bt d fact is that, it is wrong for d emir to take d role of the parents as a wali or whatever u call it...we will all bcome parents some day!

vedaxcool: Circumstances
1: parents re mentally incapacitated
2: parent r proven criminals who r into running a prostitution cartel
3: parents r dead
4: parent threaten child with violence
5: parent attempts to force child into a marriage that is against their consent

So many scenarios.

Charity's parents did not fall into any of these 'ur scenarios'!

deols: If you are here to judge Islam, I have no time to respond to you. If you want to learn, you'll have to ask politely.

This case is not the usual. I am sure the lady in question wishes that her parents are Muslims and are the ones giving her out in marriage.

But if they are not and are threatening her life, it becomes important that someone else acts on their behalf. If they allow peace, there should be no reason to deny them presence at their daughter's wedding.

That someone else becomes wali can happen even if the parents are Muslims. If they wont allow her to marry a righteous man, if for any reason her being under them is a threat to her doing the right thing, someone else can be made to take their place.


So, you can stop whining already.

The joy of every parents is to give their child/ward in hand to marriage!
Do u think it is proper IN ANY circumstances,that they should be replaced or someone else take over their role?


I will leave u with ur thought!

deols: If you are here to judge Islam, I have no time to respond to you. If you want to learn, you'll have to ask politely.

This case is not the usual. I am sure the lady in question wishes that her parents are Muslims and are the ones giving her out in marriage.

But if they are not and are threatening her life, it becomes important that someone else acts on their behalf. If they allow peace, there should be no reason to deny them presence at their daughter's wedding.

That someone else becomes wali can happen even if the parents are Muslims. If they wont allow her to marry a righteous man, if for any reason her being under them is a threat to her doing the right thing, someone else can be made to take their place.


So, you can stop whining already.

i am sorry if i am whining,but you have not really answerd my question.

The joy of every parents is to give their child/ward in hand to marriage!
Do u think it is proper IN ANY circumstances,that they should be replaced or someone else take over their role?

deols: WE are not talking of a 13 yr old here. The woman is 25 for God's sake. I wonder what the father wants to do with her when elsewhere, 19 y.olds already live away from home.

I assume the Etsu's palace is large. There is usually a side of the house for women. That should be where she lives.

When she's ready for marriage, the Etsu can be her wali.

I am sure u r a yoruba lady,no?

when u r ready to get married,will u allow someone's else to take d place of ur parents? To act as ur wali when ur parents r still alive?

Or when u 'grow up' and have kids and ur kid wana get married,will u allow somebody else to take ur place as ur child's WALI(custodian,guardian,parents)?
Does islam allow this?
This is kinda interesting!

deols: WE are not talking of a 13 yr old here. The woman is 25 for God's sake. I wonder what the father wants to do with her when elsewhere, 19 y.olds already live away from home.

I assume the Etsu's palace is large. There is usually a side of the house for women. That should be where she lives.

When she's ready for marriage, the Etsu can be her wali.

just curious,pls what is d meanin of WALI?

BetaThings: The practicability of Islam
Christianity pretends to be what it is not
1. You guys are extremely judgmenetal though you claim that people shall not judge
2. You attack people without cause, although you are not even supposed to respond to attacks and turn the other cheek
3. You try to advance by falsehood. You concoct false stories, publish fake Qur'an and you claim to be serving God
4. You have a very brutal history. You deny it only to replicate it in Iraq and South America. Even Vietnam remains a blot

There is no objective person that would give Christianity a second look

i don't see d answer yet...you have not actually answer my question!

golpen: I use to pity all these sheeps of christendom...what I've com to realise is that these sheeps just follow ignorantly, the sheperds as they flock them on their street of personal greed. One will notice that if all these ones that come to argue and display their stark ignorance on NL know a quarter of what their pastors know about christianity, there would have been a massive revolution in the christian world. But the sheperds have skillfully hypnotised the thinking of the sheeps, by picking out of the doctrines, the ones that are found suitable and blends with modern civilisation. But some christians have started stabbing tithes anyway.

But some things are just natural, like it is natural that darkness can never overcome light. What else do you expect from our christian neighbours (when to the fright and dilemma of the church, these hoaxes have been skillfully fabricated), than to gleefully accept without making findings, as their only way to remain in a fantasy and lust of remaining heavily blindfolded in a religion that has always put a lot of doubts in their minds when once in a blue moon they come to think of the reality.

Don't be surprised that the likes of mintayo, cleanvessel, truthman2012(nextpart), thehomer, pointblank and their likes may not be able to sleep at night because of the insomnia islam and their maths of antagonising it must have left behind. But just in the midst of their hateful plots, they must have found something so appealling about islam, but jealousy of the fact that they don't possess such in their religion will also try to work on them, hence their catalystic moves in spreading these falsities without noticing that God's wrath watches from above.

Evidence; they always claim they don't think about islam one bit, but I wonder if they can think of feeding their kids when they type aggressively on the islam section of NL, that clearly states that is for purely muslims.

please tell me i beg thee what is there in islam to be jealous of? What is it that you people have or do that i need to be jealous of?

I am addicted to JESUS!

This year convention will be a very powerful one,looking at d fact dt the theme is 'JESUS'.
Jesus our Saviour.
Jesus our Lord.
Jesus our Redeemer.
Jesus our mediator.
Jesus our helper.
Jesus our healer.
Jesus our intercessor.
Jesus our provider.
Jesus our comforter.
Jesus our Love.
Jesus our advocate.
Jesus our refuge.
Jesus our king.
Jesus our cleanser.
Jesus our hope.
Jesus our righteousness.
Jesus our light.
Jesus our strenght.
Jesus our defender.
Jesus our peace.
Jesus our faith.
Jesus our blessing.
Jesus our way to God.
Jesus our All in All.
Jesus our life.
Ohh...what a wonderful Jesus,the list can not be exhausted.
I LOVE YOU JESUS.