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Hayjaycity: Which planet are U from?

lool...maybe earth!
Can u just help me with those questions cus someone is right on my neck!

Please who has any info about Unilag Msc program? Is the form out? When is the deadline?
When is the program starting and the requirements,please anyone,thanks!

Just like the present day Saudi Arabia,we have a prototype ,so to speak here in Nairaland.
Saudi Arabia is known as the BASE of islam,the ROOT of islam,the DECISION MAKING ground of Islam and i believe that the fate of millions of muslims is determined by the leaders of the country.

Also,you are not a muslim until you pray facing saudi arabia...and so on!

Saudi Arabia is a country that do not allow the entrance of any other religion,neither do they allow other religious material,despite their claim that they are TOLERANCE to other religion=which is well known as a RUSE.
Nairaland is like this world with so many continents and countries(sections).
Despite the fact that Nairaland is a public forum where public opinions ought to be allowed but
Just as we have Saudi Arabia in our real world,we also have another form of the country here in Nairaland-THE ISLAM SECTION.

1-The present day Saudi do not allow any other religion to propagate their religion..
-NL version of Saudi also do not allow any other religion to 'propagate' their religion.
2-The present day Saudi only allow foreigners to come in and "look",any contribution whatsoever is not allow.
-NL version also allow 'foreigners' to come and ''view'',without any sincere contribution at all.
3-The present day Saudi ban or confiscate any religious materials apart from Islam.
-NL version also ban or remove any religious threads/topic(materials) apart from islam.
4-The present day Saudi do not allow the freedom of speech,everything is decided by minor hypocrites who call themselves kings,princes etc.
-NL version also do not allow any freedom of speech,everything is also decided by 'minor jokers' who called themselves 'moderators'.

The list is actually long...no tolerance whatsoever!
One need to think atimes and ask questions when it comes to RELIGION=a matter of eternity!
Another question=WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF? BOTH D PRESENT DAY SAUDI ARABIA AND ITS NL VERSION?
DO THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS DOING TO THEIR RELIGION? AND ALSO TO NAIRALAND.

Several threads have been blocked or removed and several people have been banned,just for what?
Even when the truth is presented with all sincerity,yet people will be banned for presenting the truth.
WHEN WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS A LIE,YOU WILL ACTUALLY FORCE IT DOWN PEOPLE'S 'THROAT' AND DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO CONCEAL THE TRUTH!

golpen: I think I remember it is said that jesus coursed a fig tree, which refused to bear a fruit for him to eat, because it wasn't the season for figs.

The thing is; we muslims love all the prophets in general and we believe in them. We are not here to shatter any prophet, but they were all ordinary men like us (who are liable to sin), sent with the extra-ordinary spiritual message and powers, but the greatest dilemma of average christians is their awareness of muslims as a competition (which is not for muslims) hence, their serious hatred.

That hatred is the biggest problem they have, such that they get to understand somethings inside of them, but still force themselves not to understand.

i just laugh when i see dis ur post...
What is in muslims or islam that christains compete abt? Pls tell me,what is der to compete abt in islam??
Is it d killings of xtains in d north? Or denying women their right? Pls dnt even let us go into dt pls!

No christain-a follower of christ-a person redeemed by d precious blood of Jesus will say he/she hates a muslim==>it is not CHRISTLIKE.
JESUS DIED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD INCLUDING MUSLIMS,BUDHISTS,HINDU,AGNOSTIC,ATHIESTS ETC.
INFACT IN UR PRESENT STATE NOW,HE LOVES YOU,IT WILL JUST BE A REGRETABLE JOURNEY IF YOU DIED WITHOUT ACCEPTING(not lying 2ursef dt u believ Him)HIM INTO UR LIFE!

Nd saying dt all prophets are human liable to sin is a baseless defence of ur prophet's lifestyle.

Jesus was not liable to sin,He was above sin...He forgave and forgives sin==CAN A SINNER DO THAT?

THIS NOT ABT COMPETITION,IT IS ABT KNOWING THE TRUTH-IT IS ABOUT NOT HIDING FROM D TRUTH-BEING OPEN TO D TRUTH!

I pray God will have mercy!

maclatunji: And why would Jesus (AS) not be able to help anybody on the day of judgement? Well, it is primarily because of Christians. By their claims, they make him a potential candidate for punishment. Note all idols are meant for the fire and Christians have made Jesus (AS) their idol:
"Surely, you and that which you worshibesides Allah are the fuel of Hell. To it shallyou come" (chapter 21 verse 99)
This is a classic case of being pulled into other people's mess. On the day of judgement, Jesus (A. S. ) will have this case pending against him and will have no time to help anybody because his own salvation will be on the line. So, is there any hope for Jesus (AS)?
Let us see:
Suratul Maidah verses 110-120
110. (Remember) when Allah will say(on the Day of Resurrection). "O 'Iesa(Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)!
Remember My Favour to you and toyour mother when I supported youwith Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael (Gabriel)]
so that you spoke to the people in the
cradle and in maturity; and when I
taught you writing, Al-Hikmah (the
power of understanding), the Taurat
(Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel); and
when you made out of the clay, as it
were, the figure of a bird, by My
Permission, and you breathed into it,
and it became a bird by My
Permission, and you healed those
born blind, and the lepers by My
Permission, and when you brought
forth the dead by My Permission; and
when I restrained the Children of
Israel from you (when they resolved
to kill you) since you came unto them
with clear proofs, and the
disbelievers among them said: 'This is
nothing but evident magic.' "
111. And when I (Allah) put in the
hearts of Al-Hawarieen (the disciples)
[of 'Iesa (Jesus)] to believe in Me and
My Messenger, they said: "We believe.
And bear witness that we are
Muslims."
112. (Remember) when Al-Hawariun
(the disciples) said: "O 'Iesa (Jesus),
son of Maryam (Mary)! Can your Lord
send down to us a table spread (with
food) from heaven?" 'Iesa (Jesus) said:
"Fear Allah, if you are indeed
believers."
113. They said: "We wish to eat
thereof and to be stronger in Faith,
and to know that you have indeed
told us the truth and that we
ourselves be its witnesses."
114. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam
(Mary), said: "O Allah, our Lord! Send
us from heaven a table spread (with
food) that there may be for us - for
the first and the last of us - a festival
and a sign from You; and provide us
sustenance, for You are the Best of
sustainers."
115. Allah said: "I am going to send it
down unto you, but if any of you after
that disbelieves, then I will punish
him with a torment such as I have not
inflicted on anyone among (all) the
'Alamin (mankind and jinns)."
116. And (remember) when Allah will
say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O
'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)!
Did you say unto men: 'Worship me
and my mother as two gods besides
Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You!
It was not for me to say what I had no
right (to say). Had I said such a thing,
You would surely have known it. You
know what is in my inner-self though
I do not know what is in Yours, truly,
You, only You, are the All-Knower of
all that is hidden and unseen.
117. "Never did I say to them aught
except what You (Allah) did command
me to say: 'Worship Allah, my Lord
and your Lord.' And I was a witness
over them while I dwelt amongst
them, but when You took me up, You
were the Watcher over them, and You
are a Witness to all things. (This is a
great admonition and warning to the
Christians of the whole world).
118. "If You punish them, they are
Your slaves, and if You forgive them,
verily You, only You are the All-
Mighty, the All-Wise ."
119. Allah will say: "This is a Day on
which the truthful will profit from
their truth: theirs are Gardens under
which rivers flow (in Paradise) - they
shall abide therein forever. Allah is
pleased with them and they with
Him. That is the great success
(Paradise).
120. To Allah belongs the dominion of
the heavens and the earth and all
that is therein, and He is Able to d
all things.
conclusion: It is clear that Jesus (AS) is not the one chosen for intercession. Hence, we have Muhammad (AS).

@d bolded,its so unfortunate dt ur god will choose a man of sin to b an intercessor for his followers=u r just painting a dark picture of him.
That brings abt d question of "who he is!"

BTW, d Bible is so clear abt Jesus being d intercesor for us...He is d only one qualified to be so...that is one of d reason He went back to d Father.
Let me ask u"was mohammed an intercessor before or after his death??"

our God is so Holy-He cnt withstand sin-dt He cnt not let a sinful man intercede on d behalf of His ppl!
Check out d prophet dt came before Jesus n compare dem with mohammed instead of putting him beside Jesus.
D truth lies in front of u ppl,bt u just decide to close ur eyes to it...smh.
God shld v mercy!

maclatunji: Was Jesus a Christian? Would he even recognise people who call themselves "Christians"? Hahahaha

thank you for hidden my post,dt is very 'typical' of you.
Interestingly,Jesus wnt recognize those who are called after His name bt He will recognize those who dnt believe in Him??...continue in ur delusion!

maclatunji: Was Jesus a Christian? Would he even recognise people who call themselves "Christians"? Hahahaha

thank you for hidden my post,dt is very 'typical' of you.
Interestingly,Jesus wnt recognize recognize those who are called after His name bt He will recognize those who dnt believe in Him??...continue in ur delusion!

F00028: how about:
-Police Parades Pastor Who Defiled 2 Under-age Girls In Edo
https://www.nairaland.com/1365757/police-parades-pastor-defiled-2
- 5ex Chat’ Pastor Gets Sack after Texting
Explicit Messages To Teenager
https://www.nairaland.com/283424/5ex-chat-pastor-gets-sack
- How Winners Chapel Pastor Molested
Me —housewife
https://www.nairaland.com/314880/how-winners-chapel-pastor-molested
etc etc etc?
dont even get me started on rcc sex abuse cases

Interestingly,you av just buttress my points that ANY MAN BORN OF A MAN OR D SEED OF MAN IS WITH SIN REGARDLESS WHO D PERSON IS,BE IT IMAMS,ALFA,PASTOR AND INCLUDING MOHAMMED==IT IS ONLY D LIFE OF JESUS,D SPIRIT OF JESUS WHICH IS WITHOUT SIN THAT CAN DELIEVER FROM SUCH errors.



EXCEPT YOU HAVE D LIFE AND D SPIRIT OF JESUS IN YOU,THEN U WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE UR LIFE A SINFUL MAN.
MOHAMMED WAS A MAN FULL OF SIN HENCE ONE NEED TO WONDER Y HE WAS CHOSEN AS A PROPHET.
Am sure u knw How Jesus lived His life-it is only in Jesus that we have hope!
May d Lord have mercy on you all!

patrick27: When you pour water and oil together, this is what you get...we have no reason to be together as a country.

Islamic Republic of Northgeria

And

United States of Biafra....and don't think Edo and Ondo will be included in this!

I can't wait to see a peaceful breakup as annoying as IRN indigenes will find it.....it will come to pass

my dear,no breakup is peaceful=breakup comes with killings,hatred,rape,torture etc.
What we need in Nigeria is Jesus-d peace He brought,His life,His salvation=these are what we need-and until we come to d realization of this;i am afraid dis is just d begining...
God Help and bless Nigeria!

Freewilly: I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR THE POOR TEENAGE GIRLS IN THE NORTH. I CAN ONLY PRAY THE GOOD LORD SAVE THEM FROM THOSE MONSTERS.!!!

it is only d gospel of christ that can free those innocent girls...i pray d light of d gospel spread to their heart...and deliver them from dis 'monsterious' demons!

RoyPCain: @mintayo; continue to worship 3 Gods. none of them will benefit you the moment death approaches and it will approach because you are not God.

it is not man alone from the bible that brings sin, the bible says woman too and man put all the blames on woman. so your argument for Jesus with that is baseless unless you are putting everything now on man and let the woman go scot-free?

spirit of God is created spirit from God honored in human. evidence; nothing of God is in man, so the spirit is created spirit and God commanded angel to bow to man, honoring man. if you think any part of God is in Jesus and that makes Jesus more than what is in you or I, you are mistaking.

and the reason Jesus is born of woman alone is to get the attention of the arrogant jews of his time. today people are having babies without any intercourse or even getting pregnant. you guys need to visit book reading places. i know drs. who are single mothers. and there was no husband getting them pregnant. in 1990s it was popular that women hired surrogate mothers, so became mothers from their own eggs without getting pregnant.


messiah means anointed and from the bible even stones were anointed and Jesus was meant so for the jews of his time and not beyond that. if Jesus was preaching humility how come he called people all kinds of evil names, even fools that he railed against?


could you list for me the sin[s] of Muhammad [sa] so that i know that you know the meaning of 'understatement'? mintayo you might have stepped on smell heap here. so now, you have to wipe yourself clean without making it worse on you.

i am sure you are trying so hard to validate ur prophet,but continue to try=d truth lies in before us!
Do i need to shout before u can understand a simple statement?
GOD IS HOLY AND PURE=ANYTHING CALLED SIN IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO HIM!
FOR HIS SALVATION PLAN TO BE PERFECT-IT HAD TO B DONE BY A MAN WITHOUT SIN!
JESUS WAS BORN OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD-THE PURE AND HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD BROUGHT ABOUT D BIRTH OF JESUS not d "corruptible seed" of man!
Anyone born of man's seed is born in sin!
REASON WHY JESUS WAS SINLESS!
YOU PEOPLE SHLD POINT OUT A SIN COMMITTED BY JESUS,YOU CNT DO THAT Bt was just trying to beat abt d bush...smh.
Am sure u knw d sins ur prophet committed,so why are u askin me...dt actually made me laff!
D Bible says by their fruits u shall knw them...
D 'paedophilic fruit(sin)' planted by ur prophet is abt to be forced down d throat of Nigerians now...smh.
May God have mercy on you and open ur eyes!

lanrexlan: Bird of a feather,two confused souls.You can't comprehend my posts because you are already brainwashed

yes,just as you have been brainwashed too from seeing d truth? Am sure u knw waht d result of d paedophilic nature of ur prophet is causing in Nigeria now! And u still think he is qualified to b called a prophet? Smh

At bold,come and see how you are contradicting yourself.

may be u shld read it more slowly-JESUS WAS SINLESS BECAUSE HE WAS NOT BORN OF A MAN(BY D SEED OF A MAN). THAT WAS WHAT QUALIFIED HIM AS D MESSIAH AND SAVIOUR.
GOD KNWS D IMPLICATION OF JESUS BEING BORN BY A MAN'S SEED...
I am sure u dnt knw,or u knw bt satan has decieve u ppl from seeng it...
[s]your god is being humble to his creatures right?[/s]

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)is a human being but Allah(swt) has forgiven his past and future sins.You need that prayer.....Peace

ofcourse,he is now,no wonder he commited so many errors,sins so unimaginable for a prophet to commit?
OR CAN U MENTION ANY ODA PROPHET DT CAN COMPETE WITH MOHAMMED INTERMS OF SIN?
Future sins? What future sin will a dead prophet commits??let me see...owk d sins of leading u ppl astray??
I don't need allah to forgive me of any sin...Jesus Christ has done that for me-and He is enough for me!
He did that for u too,ur mohammed inclusive!
May God open ur eyes.

Endtime things...Jesus is coming soon!

cleanvessel: @ lanrexlan

I searched thoroughly and could not find any sense in your post.

If everyone was born sinless, why would allah say Jesus was a faultless son? You guys don't even understand the confusion in your religion.

Where do you see Jesus killing more than Muhammad? Even if he will come to kill unbelievers, has he not given many thousand of years grace for repentance? Was Muhammad not killing the unbelievers without any grace period? Was he not invading towns and villages killing them on the sport? Are Jesus and Muhammad representing the same God by their actions? PLEASE EXPLAIN.

You do not reject the miraculous birth of Jesus because you quran says it but you reject his sinlessness because you need it for defence. So you are free to accept and reject whatever you see in your quran. Take only the ones that please you.

For your information, a fauless son is not the same as a faultless child. Your quran (Pickthal) says a faultless 'SON' A son is a son even at age 90+. Jesus being a faultless son means a faultless man througout his life time. But as usual, you take only what you like in the quran and reject the others.

I know you would not understand Muhammad and his followers sleeping with captives, taking an advantage of them. Where did you see true men of God doing such things? Keep deceiving yourself.

this is a nice topic for anyone who wants to knw d truth!


To b candid, i didnt see any sense in his post too-is so unfrtunate dt these ppl will do anything at all cost to defend islam even if it means going against what their quran says!


The reason why Jesus was without sin was bcus He ws nt born of/by a MAN bcus every man born of or by a man is with sin!
Thank God ur quran also say Jesus was born of d Spirit (of God); THE QUESTION IS CAN ANYONE BORN OF GOD'S SPIRIT SIN??

GOD KNWS D IMPLICATION OF JESUS BEING BORN OF A MAN!


And dis was y Jesus was qualified as d messiah and saviour-it had to b a 'man' without sin.
Lanre was talking abt Jesus saying dt 'ppl shld nt call him good'-bt his biased mind will nt let him c dt Jesus was preaching abt HUMILITY ;it shows how humble Jesus was(tho ppl knw dt He is good,bt He doesnt need to go abt announcing Himself).
THAT MOHAMMED IS WITHOUT SIN IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!


May God open their eyes!

shdemidemi: Frosbel versus the word of God

very soon,the guy will write his own Bible-dt will suit his emotions and interpretations! Smh.

simpleseyi: Prof. thank you very much for the insight, but em em sorry; i am still confused despite your lecture. Please what can we derive from your premises.

a. there is no heaven or hell
b. there is heaven and hell
i. when people die, they are judged immediately
ii. when people die, they remain in the grave until the trumpet or saxophone sounds; all the dead are then awoken and judged.

pls select answer:
a.
b.i.
b.ii.

my dear,you are asking d wrong person d right question,if u indeed want to knw d answer=STUDY THE BIBLE YOURSELF,ASK D HOLY SPIRIT TO GUIDE YOU,AND HE WILL SURELY DIRECT YOU INTO THE RIGHT PATH.
The person u r asking has no authority on d bible,he is just as human as urself...i cn tell u what his reply will be,but i wnt-dnt be lazy christain,study d WORD OF GOD YOURSELF!
GOd bless you as u do.

shdemidemi: Ain't we all limited to our senses? Left to you and I, if we were God, we would cancel physical death all together without judgement. We might actually say God was wicked for making His only begotten son go through that much whipping and bashing, we might have done it a different way. Unfortunately, we are not God, but we can be sure that his plans for us are of good and not evil ( by faith)

You are quite right,most of us look unto God with our physical eyes/feelings...neglecting faith,we have forgotten dt God is God no matter what we feel,and He will not change His standard for anybody...especially 'His creations'!

oglipaul: unlike other scripture which has so many contradictions and descrepancirs,error,absurdity,alhamdullilah.the quran is free from errors etc.the most purest and preserved book on earth is the quran

sorry,dis is not convincing enough.
Islam cant be d best religion based on d quran-dis jus ur own idea...smh,dis is baseless!

Chinaimporter: i winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

says who

Dis thread shld b locked or deleted!

alexleo: And where did the bible say anything on the contrary. My dear, nothing concerns me with whether a beast with ten heads or not will appear. I will only stick to what the scripture said. I am not John the beloved that was shown the revelation, i am not God that showed the revelation. My duty is to believe what God has said as written in the bible. I wont take anybody's interpretations. Not even my interpretations. it is all these various interpretations that has put all of us into all this arguments and everybody claims to be right. Lets leave everything as the bible said it pls. By the grace of God, i pray not to be in this world to see the beast thing you are talking about and i pray not to be in hell or in the lake of fire to know whether it is total wipe out or not. I am heaven bound by God's grace. But till i leave this world, I choose to stick to what the scriptures said about these issues and not anybody's explanations. Thanks dear.

God bless you bro...d issue with christains today is d inability to take d Word of God as it is-satan is really using "my interpretation" to decieve so many so called christains!
I once told somebody that whenever he is coming into NL religion section,he shld just hold on to d word of God(bible)firmly and study it,bcus u will c many heresy and Lies in d section.
Study d Bible with d help of d Holy Spirit nt with frosbel or obadiah interpretations-d Holy Spirit is d author of d Bible,HE ALONE CAN GIVE D BEST INTERPRETATION!
God bless.

Who re-open dis thraed

shegz1: Are you Blind? Don't you see what he write. Let other religion be permitted in Saudi Arabia too if Islam is truly a religion of peace

i think d big question is," what will happen to islam if other religion is allowd in saudi??"
Fear will never allow them permit any other religion 'invade' saudi!

frosbel: So which is worse , resurrection to kill or resurrection to everlasting roasting in liquid sulphur ?

are u serious? You mean God will kill you and resurect you to kill you again?? Does dt sound well to you?
Smh...may God have mercy on you!

Owk...

Jesus loves you all.

Nascimento: one problem I have with pple who claim to be Christian is that they get very annoyed when they can't defend from the bible what they believe and practice. That's why I love jehovah witnesses. They can defend their faith to the last. So my guy, prove to us that hell fire is real. Defend what you believe.

are u a christain? What is there dt cannot be defended? Huh?
I bet u dnt knw anything abt JW,even satan defends his lies,so what is d big deal!
Sit down with d Bible,ask d Holy Spirit to guide you,He is d author of d Word of God and stop propagating lies!

Nascimento: God is not a mystery as some claim. When you ask them about God, they say he's a mystery. If God is a mystery, if we can't understand is way and his promises, then why did he give us the bible? The Bible is not too hard to understand. Start read

its just a pity...well maybe God is not a mystery,but d day man knows everything about God,that is d day He stops showing reverent for God;what is so special abt you since i v known everything abt you!?
You can't know everything abt God,that is d gospel truth!
What you believe does not matter,d Bible is so clear abt HEAVEN AND HELL.
I pray d Lord open d eyes of u ppl!

frosbel: I understand how emotional church people get about this false doctrine, especially since you have preached it, taught it and believed it for eons.
It's all to do with the mindset, you have been programmed by the institutions of men to accept that God is going to burn sinners forever starting after death , even before the resurrection and judgement, which by the way flies in the face of all logic, because punishment comes after judgement not before.
Let us be objective for a minute, suppose this HELL of yours is false and because of it , millions rejected your gospel and ended up destroyed forever, are you willing to stick with what men tell you instead of revisiting this teaching and performing an independent unbiased study?
Remember, I was once like you, fighting tooth and nail for my idol churches and their false doctrines, until lately when I realised that every man will give account to GOD for himself only and my pastor will not stand for me on the last day. Therefore it is imperative that we make sure we are preaching and teaching the truth.

i don't knw what you are saying but let me tell you dis,you may continue in ur heresy,that is ur problem!
And i am not being emotional at all,and d doctrine of hell is nt any instistutional doctrine of men,- it is found in d Bible,so get ur fact right!
There are 162 texts in the NT alone that speaks of the doom that awaits unrepentant sinners=(HELL). Jesus Christ Himself uttered 70 of these.
Just pity anyone that is believing the hersy u put up here!

truthislight: "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23).
that ^ is the truth taught in the bible, that the wages of sin is death.
But hell fire teaching has changed it to mean that the wages of sin is eternal life with torment, but this is simply supporting the lie that satan told Eve in eden, that she "positively will not die na !
Now, Yahweh is the wicked one that will torment mankind forever and ever abi !
What a deceit !
Meanwhile, see what God told Adam the cause of the problem:
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of dust was thou taken, for dust thou art, and unto dust shall thou return." (Genesis 3:19).
That ^ is what God told Adam the number one offender that lived for 930yrs.
So, eternal torment is from who ?
God or satan ?
You be the judge.

You better read d Bible and ask for the Holy Spirit's(if u believ in Him),u v been decieved so well-that Genesis u quote is talking abt abraham's body(corruptible body),not an incorruptible(1 cor 15:42-44) which we will have at d resurection-everybody will die and b buried and become dust= dis is talkin abt our body!
Psalm 9:17=The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

I pray that the Lord will deliver you!