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Orikinla: Hallelujah!
I thank God for Pastor Seun Osewa, the General Overseer.

lanrexlan: Don't mind him sis,he can't comprehend all those above posts.He is just here to do follow follow.

Sissie: The least you can do is read properly, go back and read again. Educate yourself and stop joining the bandwagon.
This is how people fail exams.

Sissie: Oh please, this is tiring, is that the best you can do, shout plagiarism.

like tbaba said it's not his duty to post counter arguments, let the christians do so. He's to post his own side of the argument, he has no business posting the counter arguments.

mazaje: Plagiarism exist even in his own word of god. . .So i really do not know what he is on about here. . .He should open a topic on how the author of the gospel of Matthew plagiarized the writings of the author of gospel of Mark so that we will know he is serious if he is so worried about plagiarism. . .

Enigma: In fact now that I'm reading through the thread, I'm seeing that other posts of yours were also plagiarised.

For example your second post here https://www.nairaland.com/1395438/christian-god-muslim-god-one/1#17419069

and this link http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain..co.uk/2012/05/mission-and-ministry-of-jesus-courtesy.html

Is it possible that virtually each of your posts on this thread was lifted from somewhere or other and presented as your write up!

Shameless plagiarist kawai!

tbaba1234: Good and leave the christians to defend their faith.

Qtsnow: may God forgive you of your blasphemy, and save you and me from the torment of the day of judgement

mazaje: According to Islam, questioning the Allah's absolute authorship of the Koran is a serious blasphemy. A Muslim may face death sentence simply for nurturing an atom of doubt on Koran authenticity. The Koran is above all. Nothing in the creation of Allah is holier than the Koran. So muslims will use their life and blood to defend this narrative and tradition. . .The koran has NEVER been scrutinized academically like the bible so i wonder why tbaba is even trying to bring up the issue of biblical scholarship, as if the same can be said of the koran. . .Before the bible was opened for critical studies and scrutiny, every body just accepted the position and tradition of the church. . .Now we know so many things about the bible that we wouldn't have known if it wasn't opened for academic scrutiny. . .Muslims should open the koran up and allow it under go the same academic scrutiny and critical studies and lets see. . .Until then muslims have no right to say or talk about scholarship or the bible, since the koran has not undergone the kind of scrutiny and critical scholarship the bible went through. . .

tbaba1234: My Christian brethen, I have not shared knowledge that is not known by christian scholarship. It is just not known by the average Christian.

The lesson so far is simple:

For Muslims, the lesson may be that many of the early Christian churches were much closer to Islam than previously thought.

For Christians, the lesson may be that the doctrine of the crucifixion was very much questioned and debated by the early churches.

With that in mind, perhaps they might be willing to take a second look at the teachings of Islam with some honesty, and to consider the similarities between the teachings of Islam and the foundations of early Christianity.

I have a busy day tomorrow so my next set of evidences will be delayed.


@MKO

Here is a translation of the Quran, it would be helpful.

At least, it will help you speak with knowledge instead of ranting.

The Quran A new translation by M. A. S. ABDEL HALEEM (Oxford press) is highly recommended because of the simple language....

Pdf copy:http://asadullahali.files./2010/09/the_quran.pdf

Dharyhor: It seems like dat 4rm d perspective of xtians bt is nt really wot dey think abt it
nd moreover, i dont understand y dey ar so much interested in prying into muslim affairs
Those wearing hijab knows dat it is obligatory upon dem in accordance 2 dos nd dont of d religion dey practise nt dat dey ar being compel 2 wear it
Any muslim women u c wearing hijab knows very well d privilege it gives dem over other women

bukatyne: Misinterpreting facts will do you no good.

Not every non-muslim is a cristian, gerrit?

I am sure spagetti is the formal christian mode of dressing, not so? Please quote the verse that states so...

MostHigh: Attention seeker

biafranqueen: Why are you wasting your very precious time with these infant and baby souls and you know they are not evolved yet please do not let them distract you!!!!!1

New Alfa: For you, which is worse? To say that jesus didn't exist or to say that jesus will become Lucifer?

obadiah777: psalms 78 vs 2 I will open my mouth in a parable

matthew 13 vs 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why do you speak unto them in parables?He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

the bible is written in parables sire.

obadiah777: if i teach heresy and lies why are you always following me around ? if i knew someone thought heresy and lies i would ignore their posts or threads. so what is it ? are you stalking me ?

obadiah777: matthew 4 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

advocate666: Obiadiah777, You Sire are a great servant of our Lord Most High.

We love how you beat up those yeye christians with their bible verses.

This thread is a special thank you in recognition of your works and words.

Pastor Olu T: Obadiah777, I just can't get this, a satanist acknowledging u?

bukatyne: Are you serious at bolded?

You and a girl slee.p together and you decide not to marry her because of that?

tbaba1234: ^ Lol, if you want, we can talk about Abraham convenant but one step at a time. Everything is from your canon bible.

Easy, bro easy.

tbaba1234: ^ Lol, if you want, we can talk about Abraham convenant but one step at a time. Everything is from your canon bible.

Easy, bro easy.

mazaje: Here is the problem. . .Tbaba goes about bringing stories from discredited sources like the gospel of Barnabas that says Jesus was not crucified.

striktlymi: Sentiments rather than scriptures flying around.

Hmmmm...

#Unfollows!

Sissie: I agree with you tbaba they don't know much about their book and history, atleast m.k.o2005 tried to answer, but mintayo please go and educate yourself more properly, not from anti-Islam website.

And please write with some respect, you dont have to agree but write Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) properly. Am sure your educated, you should know even in English language you spell names starting with a capital letter.

tbaba1234: Lol, lots of ranting but zero facts... Imagine someone even copying from an anti-Islam website.

I was very fair in my assessment of everything, this is what i wrote on the gospel of barnabas:

This is left as the last because it is controversial. There is evidence of a gospel of barnabas in early Christendom but there is no guarantee that what we have today as the gospel of barnabas is the same one. It remains an open question as to whether or not the book that is presently identified as being the Gospel of Barnabas is the same Gospel of Barnabas identified in the Decree of Gelasius. (A) Schneemelcher W: General Introduction. In Hennecke E, Schneemelcher W, Wilson RM (1963). B) Platt RH, Brett JA.)

Mintayo, There are obvious historical records of it, in the Decree of Gelsius, so there was a gospel of barnabas, I gave quite a number of references to attest to it. I guess you should google it, instead of calling me a liar.

I clearly stated that why we have may or may not be the one.

I think that is a balanced view.

All I see here, is lots of ranting with little substance.

Historically, I have shown sufficiently, that the early christians were divided on the issue. If early Christians were so sharply divided on this issue, then it raises a serious problem for the christian today.

Instead , some people are missing the point.

The early christian churches chose those books as their scripture because they were convinced it was the words of God.

They had their reasons, too. They must have been convincing to them.

As regards the Quran, I would encourage you to first read it in translation first, and not visit anti-islam sites for your information.