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tintingz: Lolz you post like a kid

Have you been to the Yoruba land and see how muslims and christians live?

Have you been to Israel and see how jews and christians hate themselves?

Have you read about Buddhist hatred for muslims?

Do christians 'love' pagans and atheists?

Reason with your brain not with your anu;s

lol@d bolded...we dnt have to go far to see that u r lying,so typical of u!
Christains tolerate everybody,NL is an example...christains and pagans and athiest tolerate one another is d religion section...bt can we say d same thing abt islam in 'd islam for muslims' ONLY? Or hv u quickly forgotten ur mod's 'operation moving train'?
Common, stop announcing ur hypocrisy and intolerance!

Eben 2: @frosbel and my other good brethren,

Pls let's be careful when we criticize the actions of these MOG (so-called or not). Yes, a lot of them do what will make you ask "do these people really study the bible?". Notwithstanding, let us get our facts right and be unbiased when talking about them.

Now, I want to believe frosbel was not at the camp during the last convention and so you don’t really know what happened. I was there to have special time with Christ and not Adeboye and believe me, I was really blessed!

The question is: what brought about the call for another auditorium? I arrived at the camp on Tuesday and left very early on Sunday. The crowd on Tuesday was minimal and the presence auditorium was not even filled but by Wednesday, the story had already changed the auditorium was filled to capacity. By Thursday, many people could not find a place to sit, queue at the toilets and bathrooms were unending. People were already sitting on the road to listen to messages. Of course the number of people that came on Friday almost double the one of Thursday. Almost half of the population sat outside of the auditorium.

In this case, what do you expect the church to do? Continue to watch the people suffer because they want to seek God? Think of it, what if it rained on Thursday and Friday; what do you think would have happened? It would have been a very great disaster. In order for this not to occur, a leader with a vision asked for a bigger auditorium to be built. What is wrong with that? This auditorium is not a mansion but a cover for people to worship God. Believe me; heaven must have been filled with joy during this convention for the thousands of souls that gave their life to Jesus; to me, that is what counts! That people are saved regardless.

"What then? Notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence or in truth, Christ is preached and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice." Phil 1:18

neatly said.
I am always impress and joyous when ppl accept Jesus as their Lord,this is more important dn we condemning these men of God!
How many of them on NLhave won a soul for christ instead we argue and argue abt things that we r nt suppose to worry abt!
As long as ppl accept Jesus in such gathering,that is enough for me!

tunshe: Obviously,you are the one with an empty skull as the above is the only argument you can come up with.

Micheal Hart, a Christian like you rated Prophet Muhammad as the most influential man ever lived and rated Jesus(A.S),who you claimed as your lord and personal saviour as number 3 behind Isaac Newton.

and do u knw d reason why Micheal hart said that?
He did nt call mohammed d most influential bcus he was a good man but because of wars he fought and the lives he killed!
Btw,anybody can say anything abt anybody...i can also publish a book and say seun is d richest man on earth!
Stop d hate man and address d issue at hand!

I don't know what is wrong with we christains...d last time i checked,no body is being forced to donate.
Again,if ppl do not even donate,do u think that can stop the building from being built?
Again,dis church has been in existence for several years,yet it is moving forward,if what they believ in is false,do you think,she will be where she is today?
Again which is better,for ppl to worship in d church n hear d Word of God than for them to be decieved by satan,herbalist,ritualist ETC!
This is one of d reasons i dislike dis religion section...we are so concern with less-weightier matter and we v left the weightier matter(salvation of souls,preaching or telling d athiest or muslims on NL abt Jesus=Matt 23:23). All this disagreement,envy,dissensions,hatred,doctrines and church attack are what makes 'baby' christains begin to question their faith,breeding athiest etc.
Jesus didnt say christains should be attacking one another-He gave us a mandate=TELL PEOPLE ABOUT HIM!

peppy luv: My brother Stop decieving ur self,every christian denomination believes in the trinity and that does not mean that Jesus is God! Thou d Anglicans don't deny that they beliv in the trinity.
U all steal our doctrines and try to make it look different from the catholc way! I cudnt stop laughing when an anglican frnd said the sign of the crosss is not 'a catholic thing" and this frnd is so anti catholic and says I carry it on my head lol how? becos I can't stop displaying hw proud I am of it on bb?I hate religious arguement evn thou am bein forced to cuz I get provoked. Crazyman a moderator banned me from NYC section simpy becos I said I was proud of NACC(national association of catholic corpers)meanwhl NCCF were praising their own and immediatly I said somtin they attacked me and whl trying to defend myself(without insults!God wil bear me witness,I was banned till feb 15th 2014! So I wudnt say or promote NACC till I finish my service year!Y d hate for catholics
somtyms our xtian brothers say d unimaginable and I keep wondering "y d hate"?we acknowledge d fact that some of our clergies hv made mistakes and gone astray but who are we to judge if God has forgiven them. Are your clergies innocent or is it becos d catholic church is popular and for that notin is hidden. I dnt hv time to start posting crimes commited by other demonination's clergy just to start an un necessary argument here. All orthodox churches(who later produced the protestants) came out from catholic and we all say d creed together which includes beliving in d holy catholic church till date!
I knw them especialy anglicans to take our doctrines and try to make it look diff.eg they dnt belive in d saints but they name their churches after a saint! Point of correction we dnt worship them but we see them as role models for the life they lived. "There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future"- st Augustine.
This was one of d reasons why a convert(an elderly yoruba man in church of assmuption asokoro and his 2nd reason was becos of my ex parish priest fr George Ehusani whose preaching he watched and followed closely evry sunday on AIT) came back to the church,he said the anglicans "plucked d fruit witout knwing how it was planted" so he came back to the farm to knw more abt d fruit and how its been planted"! A marriage nearly ended when an Anglican Rev askd a bride(who was catholic) do u reject calling d name of d saints in prayers(don't argue this cuz I hear protestants calling on the God of Oyedepo and Abioye and their demi god pastors!),the grl said NO! Do u reject d Rosary? she said "NO!I married my husband cuz of love not religion" meanwhl d church was bearing the name of a saint!! If u dnt acknwledge them(saints)then y bear the name leave it for the catholics that declared them saints. My mum cudnt stop sighing cuz they dnt knw they hv planted a seed of division in that home!if the bride had made up her mind to submissively follow her husband to anglican forever she may not want to do it again!
I dnt want us to start arguing about new converts here cuz evryday silently,those who hv gone from the church come back. Our doors are open for whoever wants to walk in or out,we dnt need customers to pay tithe. D church has enuf!
That aside, ur pastors bless u and end prayers with "in the name of the father, son and holy ghost!" Abeg is that not the trinity or is it becos u dnt do the sign of the cross u now feel its not the trinity u r acknowledging by saying that? Wake up from ur slumber man,u think u knw d bible more than a jnr seminarian not to talk of the Pope! Lol *smh for ur dumbness*
WITHOUT THE CATHOLICS THEIR WILL BE NO BIBLE! A fact that only fools argue, so if u r one come on then
I knw ur next arguement wil be that we worship mary lol don't worry we are ok with that ok. Let it b our headache.
Some of u say u want to save the catholics from hell *lol* u hypocrite! Save ursef 1st! Deliver ursef from ur uncountable lies,fornication,adultery,abortion,injustice, man's inhumanity to man,bribery and corruption, theft,backbiting,hate,gossip,envy,jealousy,anger and so on! Then when u r clean only then will u be worthy of saving 2billion pple from hell!!

Enough of d battle of supremacy btwn christians and muslims after all there are so many world religions. I always told my frnd that if I wasn't a catholic I wud hv been a Buddahist! Yes u heard me.
If u wanna knw y go and do a research about them and u will knw y!not trying to search for negative things after al evry religion has something questionable abt it! They do! Or do u want me to start picking out verse from the bible and koran that will make u ask and wonder if God really said and did all this?

Good.
Hold on to the Word of God my dear!
No church(catholic,protestant,methodist etc),no pope,pastor etcn CAN SAVE!
ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE...SALVATION LIES IN ACCEPTING JESUS AS UR LORD AND SAVIOUR
LET D SPIRIT OF GOD LEAD U

Gaiden k: Dude the God of the bible and the god of the koran is not one. Get your fact straight#Nobeef

Bitter truth!

drstan: Ormor, see hidden post, sometimes i wish i could read all those hidden post

that is what happens when u put d WRONG person at the right place!

Logicboy03: You expect civil discussions after Maclatunji has pushed people to the wall with his nonsense?

You expect civil discussion when we non-muslims see many of you NL muslims comfortable with a separate section obtained by threats?

You expect civil discussions after we have seen another dangerous threat from a muslim?

You expect civil discussions when you have been silent about all maclatunji's wickedness towards non-muslims.




YOU ARE HAVING A LAUGH.

one word...HYPOCRITES!

No no no way...we dnt mactunji as a mod here...to hell with his apology...if Seun doesnt change him in d next 72hrs,am leaving NL straightaway!

tbaba1234: There was no life threat, mr man.

With the kinds of obnoxious things, some people regurgitate on this forum.. It is actually a miracle that only Ayatullah reacted angrily. Visit muslim threads that make front page sometimes.

I am a very gentle person but if you insult my mum in my presence, you would probably end up with a fist in your face (unless you are 7ft, 500lbs). Anger is a natural reaction to certain things but of course there are limits which must be observed.

You can insult me personally but you cross the line when you insult those i love.

am sorry,bt u r hypocrites!
I wld v ask u to go see my reply to dt ayatollah guy if nt dt d thread has been locked!
It is quite a shame on u guys, threathened somebody for voicing out His opinion in a public forum!
No matter d threat u guys trash out,it cant change who ur prophet was,it cnt change anything,everybody knws d truth and u guys shld better accept it and go on!
If someone abuses ur parenst,u think d best thing to do is to threaten d LIFE(which u cnt creat)of such person with death? Will ur parents even support that?(tho i wnt b surprised if dey do) I cnt just believ dis...
tbaba,u r one of d few muslims i respect so much in dis forum,bt with this,guy,u v lost it man,damn it!
I am sure many of u guys will b rejoicing nw dt 'tinji, has been made a mod here...it shows how intolerant and insecure u guys are!

If christains also retaliate in d same proportion u guys blaspheme against Jesus,do u think this world wld b a better place to live in?
Let me show what u guys say that is 'blasphemy' to christains:
1. Saying that Jesus is nt d Saviour even when He is!
2. Saying that Jesus is nt Lord even when He is!
3. Saying that He did nt die or resurect even when all facts and history showd tht He did!
4. Saying that d Bible is corrupt even when it is not!
5. Saying that ur prophet is d comforter PROMISED by Jesus even WHEN HE IS NOT!
6. Saying that Jesus is a messenger even when He is not!
I can continue...yet do u sse any christain kill muslim or threaten Seun bcus of the above!
Hypocrites!

D fact is no matter how much you blasphame against Jesus,it CANNOT CHANGE who He is...this my own understand as a Christain!

Am begining to hate this NL,Lord help me not too!

May Lord have mercy on you all!

I think it is time i vacate NL,what, as in seriously,mac, mod here...mayb am dreaming!
I take it that seun has no respect for christainity and other religion at all!
Makin mac a mod here is just like making osama d preisdent of d USA!
I pray NL will nt go into extinction soon...bcus d wrath of God is descending pretty fast!

i cant believ this!

frosbel: Our problem is not Muslims or ISLAM, our problem is the many false and heretical doctrines in the church and bad examples from many so called Christians.

Until we return to the true faith of Jesus, we will keep going round n circles.

the problem is not d muslims,Jesus died for them too, d problem is "d spirit of Islam"..."the spirit behind muslim"...
D spirit is a very powerful one,it will only take d Spirit of Jesus to cast it out!!

deols: I didnt read all you wrote. I stand by what I wrote previously. The lady in question is grown up and I believe is wise enough to know what is good for her.

yes true,charity is grown up,bt d fact is that, it is wrong for d emir to take d role of the parents as a wali or whatever u call it...we will all bcome parents some day!

vedaxcool: Circumstances
1: parents re mentally incapacitated
2: parent r proven criminals who r into running a prostitution cartel
3: parents r dead
4: parent threaten child with violence
5: parent attempts to force child into a marriage that is against their consent

So many scenarios.

Charity's parents did not fall into any of these 'ur scenarios'!

deols: If you are here to judge Islam, I have no time to respond to you. If you want to learn, you'll have to ask politely.

This case is not the usual. I am sure the lady in question wishes that her parents are Muslims and are the ones giving her out in marriage.

But if they are not and are threatening her life, it becomes important that someone else acts on their behalf. If they allow peace, there should be no reason to deny them presence at their daughter's wedding.

That someone else becomes wali can happen even if the parents are Muslims. If they wont allow her to marry a righteous man, if for any reason her being under them is a threat to her doing the right thing, someone else can be made to take their place.


So, you can stop whining already.

The joy of every parents is to give their child/ward in hand to marriage!
Do u think it is proper IN ANY circumstances,that they should be replaced or someone else take over their role?


I will leave u with ur thought!

deols: If you are here to judge Islam, I have no time to respond to you. If you want to learn, you'll have to ask politely.

This case is not the usual. I am sure the lady in question wishes that her parents are Muslims and are the ones giving her out in marriage.

But if they are not and are threatening her life, it becomes important that someone else acts on their behalf. If they allow peace, there should be no reason to deny them presence at their daughter's wedding.

That someone else becomes wali can happen even if the parents are Muslims. If they wont allow her to marry a righteous man, if for any reason her being under them is a threat to her doing the right thing, someone else can be made to take their place.


So, you can stop whining already.

i am sorry if i am whining,but you have not really answerd my question.

The joy of every parents is to give their child/ward in hand to marriage!
Do u think it is proper IN ANY circumstances,that they should be replaced or someone else take over their role?

deols: WE are not talking of a 13 yr old here. The woman is 25 for God's sake. I wonder what the father wants to do with her when elsewhere, 19 y.olds already live away from home.

I assume the Etsu's palace is large. There is usually a side of the house for women. That should be where she lives.

When she's ready for marriage, the Etsu can be her wali.

I am sure u r a yoruba lady,no?

when u r ready to get married,will u allow someone's else to take d place of ur parents? To act as ur wali when ur parents r still alive?

Or when u 'grow up' and have kids and ur kid wana get married,will u allow somebody else to take ur place as ur child's WALI(custodian,guardian,parents)?
Does islam allow this?
This is kinda interesting!

deols: WE are not talking of a 13 yr old here. The woman is 25 for God's sake. I wonder what the father wants to do with her when elsewhere, 19 y.olds already live away from home.

I assume the Etsu's palace is large. There is usually a side of the house for women. That should be where she lives.

When she's ready for marriage, the Etsu can be her wali.

just curious,pls what is d meanin of WALI?

BetaThings: The practicability of Islam
Christianity pretends to be what it is not
1. You guys are extremely judgmenetal though you claim that people shall not judge
2. You attack people without cause, although you are not even supposed to respond to attacks and turn the other cheek
3. You try to advance by falsehood. You concoct false stories, publish fake Qur'an and you claim to be serving God
4. You have a very brutal history. You deny it only to replicate it in Iraq and South America. Even Vietnam remains a blot

There is no objective person that would give Christianity a second look

i don't see d answer yet...you have not actually answer my question!

golpen: I use to pity all these sheeps of christendom...what I've com to realise is that these sheeps just follow ignorantly, the sheperds as they flock them on their street of personal greed. One will notice that if all these ones that come to argue and display their stark ignorance on NL know a quarter of what their pastors know about christianity, there would have been a massive revolution in the christian world. But the sheperds have skillfully hypnotised the thinking of the sheeps, by picking out of the doctrines, the ones that are found suitable and blends with modern civilisation. But some christians have started stabbing tithes anyway.

But some things are just natural, like it is natural that darkness can never overcome light. What else do you expect from our christian neighbours (when to the fright and dilemma of the church, these hoaxes have been skillfully fabricated), than to gleefully accept without making findings, as their only way to remain in a fantasy and lust of remaining heavily blindfolded in a religion that has always put a lot of doubts in their minds when once in a blue moon they come to think of the reality.

Don't be surprised that the likes of mintayo, cleanvessel, truthman2012(nextpart), thehomer, pointblank and their likes may not be able to sleep at night because of the insomnia islam and their maths of antagonising it must have left behind. But just in the midst of their hateful plots, they must have found something so appealling about islam, but jealousy of the fact that they don't possess such in their religion will also try to work on them, hence their catalystic moves in spreading these falsities without noticing that God's wrath watches from above.

Evidence; they always claim they don't think about islam one bit, but I wonder if they can think of feeding their kids when they type aggressively on the islam section of NL, that clearly states that is for purely muslims.

please tell me i beg thee what is there in islam to be jealous of? What is it that you people have or do that i need to be jealous of?