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shdemidemi: Jeremiah 30:4

“And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.” [/b]Now stop a minute. Israel and Judah – that includes how many of the tribes? All of them.

Too many people today think the ten tribes disappeared. They’re gone, and all He’s dealing with is Judah and Benjamin. No. No. No. All of Scripture from the time of the captivities when they come back are still dealing with the whole nation. Don’t ever fall for that false lie that the ten tribes are lost and all we’ve got left is Judah

Jeremiah 30:5

“For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.” See that? That’s not a very comforting verse, is it? All right, next verse:

Jeremiah 30:6

“Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, (or in labor pain) and all faces (men and women) are turned into (What?) paleness.” Why? From all the mental pressures of the Tribulation!

Jeremiah 30:7a

“Alas, for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of (Who’s trouble?) Jacob’s trouble,…” Well, in Scripture who’s Jacob? Israel. This is going to be seven years of God dealing primarily with His Covenant people.

I don't think I have another name for this tribulation but wrath, why would God want to punish his people through tribulation? Some may ask. Watch what they did

Psalms 2:1

“Why do the heathen (That’s the Gentile.) rage, and the people (That’s the other category of the human race—Israel. You’ve only Jew and Gentile, remember.) imagine a vain thing?

Psalms 2:2a

The kings of the earth (In other words, the leadership in Rome.) set themselves, and the rulers (That is the religious rulers of Israel. They--) take counsel together,…” That’s why they brought about the crucifixion. It wasn’t the Jews, and it wasn’t the Romans. It was both of them.

Psalms 2:2b-3

“…they take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, (Which was the Messiah) saying, 3. Let us break their bands asunder, (In other words, we’re not going to have God interfering in our earthly affairs.) and cast away their cords from us.” Now, here’s God’s reaction.

Psalms 2:4

“He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: (not amusement – derision) the Lord shall have them in derision.”

Psalms 2:5

“Then (After they’ve rejected the Messiah, they’ve put Him to death, and He is ascended back to Glory--) he (that is God) shall speak unto them (That is the whole human race, Jew and Gentile.) in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.”


Note---Nothing in the Pauline epistle was revealed in the old, it remained a secret/mystery until it was revealed to Paul. Tribulation and all its pains starts after rapture.

RoyPCain: Long before the flood of Noah [as], Adam [as] built the Kaaba and 40 years after a house of worship in Jerusalem. After the flood of Noah [as], Abraham with his son Ishmmael [as] rebuilt the Kaaba and much later King Solomon build his famous Temple on the site of where Adam [as] built before in Jerusalem.



Islam is a way. The way of Islam is for those who are; [from Surah Ahzab]: Indeed, the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men and believing women, the obedient men and obedient women, the truthful men and truthful women, the patient men and patient women, the humble men and humble women, the charitable men and charitable women, the fasting men and fasting women, the men who guard their private parts and the women who do so, and the men who remember Allah often and the women who do so - for them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a great reward.


from Surah Taubah: [Such believers are] the repentant, the worshipers, the praisers [of Allah ], the travelers [for His cause], those who bow and prostrate [in prayer], those who enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and those who observe the limits [set by] Allah . And give good tidings to the believers.



@Pastor Kun; Kunle, how is God a father of any and how do you beget a son? Are you married or can you beget without a partner? God created us without the aid of Jesus and God stays connected to us throughout without needing Jesus because the door of connection is open as in acceptance of repentance when we offer it. It does not make sense to abrogate the Role of God for His creation Jesus. That is something unfair.

BetaThings: Hahahaah
Go ahead and quote

And yours draw plenty of water?
and you can prove?

BetaThings: Of course not
We have a book that is complete, not in need in revision without variants and from a single source
Yours is a book of readings, reviewed and compiled in stages by some editorial panel, with at least two key variants and frequently updated (or upgraded?)

nnofaith: like mohammed did right?!

Profidada: Nice program. But i must say that some issues need to be revisited. I see no reason why female corps members will not be allowed to put on trousers but ajuwaya. Also, some of us who are batch c's are not really happy with the current system whereby we are been sidelined from leadership position under the pretext of short period of service, but rather given to otondos. I think the current exco at the national level should take a critical look at this.

BetaThings: How can I? Afteral, according to you, I can only see ahadeeth
Bias? Really? coming from you?
Do you know what this thread all about?
A guy trying to convert to Islam is a curio?

https://www.nairaland.com/1368348/1000-saying-shahadah-germany-sheikh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJDd-CvbpXM

alexis: Yippie Skippie - another blind Islamic advocate - you ignored my question abi. Please show me where Jesus killed anyone? The difference between Christians committing act of violence is in clear contradiction and disobedience to Jesus teaching compared to muslims that have a legitimate basis for violence has taught in the Quran and practiced by it's prophet.

You close your eyes to muslims killing themselves in Syria and Iraq. Sunnis are slaughtering Shias everyday in Iraq - you leave all that yet you see Mussolini and Hitler. Cha, mumu-ness is not good oh!.

vedaxcool: How tolerant once again we see the real concerns of these apostles of tolerance. Lol epic fail.
[s]They seek to silence Muslims on nl but surely u would fail.[/s]

Alfa Seltzer: Real Satanists don't evangelize. We act. Those in those threads advocating a church of some kind aren't real satanists. They are the equivalent of what you people would call false prophets. Satanists are loners. We don't have gatherings. Satan has no business where two or more are gathered together. That's Jesus's prerogative. Satan acts when you are alone. He likes one on one situations. He waited until Eve was alone before He acted. He waited until Jesus was alone in the mountain before He reacted. He hates churches and doesn't have one.

superior1: Except in the Traditions of Daddy Francis, this is not a teaching of the bible

Alfa Seltzer: No, they worship allah, the buddy friend of Yahweh. Arch enemies of the Great and Mighty Satan.

shdemidemi: 1 cor 15:50

51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1 thess 4
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.[b]

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.


I believe all this will happen followed by a seven year tribulation
Daniel 9
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

and the second coming of Christ to set up the reign of Christ [Zechariah 14:1-9

Breakdown-


The Book of Revelation primarily deals with those final seven years before the return of Christ at His Second Coming; then the setting up of His Kingdom upon the earth. This seven years is primarily God dealing with the Nation of Israel; however, all the world will become involved.

Three major events that will take place

1. The appearance of the Anti-christ when he will sign that seven-year peace treaty with the Nation of Israel, which will again kick God's time clock back in gear, as it has been stopped now all during the Church Age.

2. The appearance of those two witnesses. They will come to the Nation of Israel in Jerusalem. And they will begin proclaiming God's Word to the Nation of Israel, and out of the ministry of these two...

3. God is going to seal and commission the 144,000 young Jewish men whom God will use to circumvent the globe. They won't be preaching the Gospel of Grace as we know it, but, rather, they will be reverting back again to the Gospel of the Kingdom as it was being proclaimed at the time of Christ and Peter and the eleven.

There is a vast difference between the Gospel of Grace and the Gospel of the Kingdom. When you understand that, the Bible is much less confusing. At that time, the Age of Grace has ended and the Church is gone. A person will no longer have the opportunity to join a local congregation. But rather these 144,000 will be telling the world that the King is coming. After all, that was the message in Christ's earthly ministry. He Himself referred to it more than once as the Gospel of the Kingdom. The King and His Kingdom were about to come on the scene. Of course Israel rejected that, and the King was crucified. God raised Him from the dead, called Him back to heaven to sit at the Father's right hand until His enemies should be made His footstool. That `until' signifies the time when He will once again deal with His Covenant people of Israel.

Mathew
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

If we divide this verse into two,

'And this gospel of the kingdom'

This Gospel of the Kingdom. Not the Gospel of Grace. We preach today the Gospel of Grace that you must believe for your salvation, that Jesus died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead. Jesus Himself revealed that to the Apostle Paul, and Paul alone, in I Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 10:9-10 and many other places in Paul's writing. But Jesus and the twelve preached the Gospel of the Kingdom which is believing for salvation that Jesus was the Messiah, repentance, and baptism.

"...shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

Isn't that plain? But you have to know which Gospel. Paul tells us in Galatians 2:7-9 that there were two Gospels, one that he (Paul) preached to the Gentiles (uncircumcision) by revelation from Jesus Christ. And the other that John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 12 preached to the Jews or Nation of Israel (circumcision).

Jesus said, "The same Gospel of the Kingdom that He preached in His three years of ministry will be proclaimed again during the Tribulation." Now Just stop and think. If that Good News is proclaimed to every nation on earth, that d King is coming, it will last

patrkq: i am for fact a christian, but d way u just expressed urself is very unchristian like and totally sentimental...

Alfa Seltzer: Please don't associate my Lord and Master with those that worship a pedofile.

Alfa Seltzer: Please don't associate my Lord and Master with those that worship a pedofile.

striktlymi: The above are your words not mine.

Defending your home when someone comes to kill you does not negate peaceful coexistence.

Have I given you what I mean by self defence? Your attributing self defence to Bokoharam shows that you have little idea of what I call self defence.

ou do not understand the passage you quoted. That passage is talking about revenge not self defense. Scriptures never asked you to sit down and fold your hands when you are being attacked.