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Infoman51: You must be a learner there it goes : TERRORISM IN THEBIBLE
Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities atthat time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed womenand children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)
Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shalldeliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroythem; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images,and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6
Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God
Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man bylying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)
1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able tostand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up fromus?
1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man,"Strike me!" But the man refused tostrike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soonas you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked andkilled him.
What?!
Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile theTemple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."
Another massacare.
eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers andoxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.
Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished,since the slave is his own property
So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible

don't u guys have any other passage-i have seen these same passages been posted by many muslims to show terrorism in the Bible-i guess it was giving to u by some body...maybe you shld check the meaning of terrorism in the dictionary!
An try and read the link below pls

http://carm.org/why-do-christians-not-obey-old-testaments-commands-to-kill-homosexuals

shalom

tintingz: you should cover yourself in shame, i didnt even bother reading those trash in that site... What does Jesus said about the law before him, from his word:


"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)"

From these verses did he(Jesus) ignored the LAW before him? Did he brought a new law?

why not read what is on the link-if you really want to know the truth!

tintingz: They are christians the crusaders wore cross, held cross to show that they are real christians fighting for christiandom!

you can hold as many crosses as you want-that doesn't make you a christain;you can even hold/read the bible-that doesn't mean u are a christain-being a christain is very deeper than that!
Christainity is AN EXPERIENCE; AN ENCOUNTER, A CONVICTION- A RELATIONSHIP! IT IS LIVING THE LIFE OF Jesus christ!

I am sure that islam is also living the life of mohammed

tintingz: hahahaha! and christians will tell us the crusaders didnt fought for christiandom, that christians dont kill for their god, remember the crusader also killed many jews the chosen people in your bible

Evangelist Adolf hitler also plan to destroy the entire jews on earth

those were selfish wars by the europians country and the deception of the catholic-but wait do we still have the crusaders? Have u seen any christain group bombing and shouting "jesus Jesus is Lord?

Do u really want to knw y hitler was able to kill the jews biblically? Do u know that the jews have masscred long before Hitlar,do u want to know why?

Do u know the law Jesus came to fulfil? Are u ready to know?

CAMEROONPRIDE: So you mean, you can't present and explain your religion(Islam) without mentioning Christianity?

How so? How do you know the guys insulting your religion is Christian? Do you know the amount of abuses Christian receive? What if they say all the offenders are Muslim?
As for Muslim who doesn't insult Jesus my guys Jesus is not the only one in Christianity , you may respect Jesus, but I have seen several times your lots rubbish the bible, insulting Mary etc, so don't try to play the innocent victim.

please me tell him/them...chrsitains don't have issues with...we don't need quran for anything...they shld leave our 'corrupt' Bible for us...i cnt jus help it but wonder-they cnt just do without the Bible...

tintingz: you should ask the christians same question...

christain don't need muslim for anything-u ar d one that used the Bible to validate ur quran and proof that ur islam;u even try to put mohammed and allah in the bible-(when last do u see a christain put allah in d bible?)
and u say the bible is corrupt-abeg which bible u dey use to confirm mohamed? The corrupt one??

novicali: Isah is not the name of Jesus... the Arabs and the Hebrews are first cousins and the language up to date inter-related. How Muslims or Koran go the name Isah as Jesus name is unfounded. We know that Jesus is a Greek language, and the real Hebrew name or Jewish name of Jesus is Yelshuwa and this name has the same meaning in Arabic langauage, and Arab Christians address Jesus by this name.

have always been saying it!
Christain and muslims are not serving the same God!
Christain Jesus is different from muslim Jesus(Isah).
They are two parallel lines!
Shalom

AbdH: So Christians killed to regain a city? Why didn't they turn the other cheek? No doubt that the bible inspired them to kill. Let me pay you back in your own coins: the crusaders have always been the real Christians for they follow(ed) the bible with zest. The rest of you are just pretenders who profess fake love just so you can lure the weak to polytheism.

lets agree that they are christains,please what year was that? What year do we have boko-haram? Do we still have the crusaders? Do we still have boko-haram? Do we still have alqueda? You better get your facts right-the guy u quote has given u a good answer and let me add-the crusade then was a selfish act by 'catholics' ,and some pagan europian countries including some muslims to take back Jerusalem...so get your fact right!
Can you seperate islam from mohammed?

lanrexlan: Wecome mr 'copy and paste',know nothing about islam quoting verses out of context.This is your answer.This verse has been misquoted in a manner similar to other verses
to prove terrorism in Islam and to make people hate it.It is also
historically out of context.
The full context is:
"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the
Pagans wherever ye find them and seize them,beleaguer them,
and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);but if they
repent and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity,
then open the way for them:for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most
Merciful.If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum,
grant it to him,so that he may hear the word of Allah and
then escort him to where he can be secure.That is
because they are men without knowledge. How can there be for
the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His
Messenger except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-
Masjid al-Haram?So as long as they are upright toward you,
be upright toward them.Indeed,Allah loves the righteous
[who fear Him]. " [Quran 9:5-7]
The verse once again refers to those pagans who would continue
to fight after the period of peace.It clearly commands the
Muslims to protect those who seek peace and are non-
combatants.It is a specific verse with a specific ruling and can in
no way be applied to general situations. The command of the
verse was only to be applied in the event of a battle.As Abdullah
Yusuf Ali writes:
The emphasis is on the first clause: it is only when the four
months of grace are past, andthe other party show no
sign of desisting from their treacherous design by
right conduct, that the state of war supervenes-
between Faith and Unfaith. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur’an,
Text, Translation and Commentary, emphasis added)
Dr. Maher Hathout gives an explanation on the historical context
of the verse:
This verse was revealed towards the end of the revelation
period and relates to a limited context.Hostilities were
frozen for a three-month period during which the Arabs
pledged not to wage war. Prophet Muhammad was
inspired to use this period to encourage the combatants to
join the Muslim ranks or, if they chose, to leave the area
that was under Muslims rule; however,if they were to
resume hostilities, then the Muslims would fight
back until victorious.One is inspired to note that even in
this context of war,the verse concludes by emphasizing
the divine attributes of mercy and forgiveness.To
minimize hostilities,the Qur'an ordered Muslims to grant
asylum to anyone,even an enemy, who sought refuge.
Asylum would be granted according to the customs of
chivalry; the person would be told the message of the
Qur'an but not coerced into accepting that message.
Thereafter, he or she would be escorted to safety
regardless of his or her religion. (9:6). (Hathout, Jihad vs.
Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002,
pp.52-53, emphasis added)
Ibn al-`Arabi, in his commentary on the Qur’an, writes:
“It is clear from this that the meaning of this verse is to kill
the paganswho are waging war against
you.” (Ahkam al-Qur’an: 2/456, emphasis added)
The verse 13 of the same chapter makes it clear that it is a self
defensive verse revealed by Allah
“Will you not fight people who broke their covenants and plotted
to expel the Messenger and attacked you first?” [Sûrah al-Tawbah:
13]

like i said,send these to the proper channels-boko and co!

RealSleek: Obviously u missed ur history class.....the crusaders fought to regain jerusalem for christendom and yes, the fought with muslim invaders

don't mind him,instead of him to talk about the topic;he is derailing again...i am not surprised!

lanrexlan: To your second verse you quoted out of context.The verse is taken out of context both historical context and the
context of the verse itself in the Qur'an. Let us first examine the
full verse:
"[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with
you,so strengthen those who have believed.I will cast terror
into the hearts of those who disbelieved,so strike [them] upon
the necks and strike from them every fingertip.That is because
they opposed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever
opposes Allah and His Messenger - indeed,Allah is severe in
penalty." [Anfal 8:12-13]
That is the context of the verse in the Qur'an. The historical
context is that this verse was revealed at the Battle of Badr, a
battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled over 200 miles to
destroy the Muslims of Madinah.The Pagans of Makkah had an
army of about 1000 while the Muslims were only 300 followers.
The Prophet Muhammad ((peace be upon him)) and his followers
had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the
city of Makkah. Having fled from Makkah to the safety of Madinah,
they found that they were once again threatened by Makkans and
have to defend themselve.It is clear from the below verse that
the Makkans were fighting against Allah,His Messenger and Islam
"There has already been for you a Sign in the two armies that
met (in combat): One was fighting in the cause of Allah,the
other resisting Allah; these saw with their own eyes Twice
their number.But Allah doth support with His aid whom He
pleaseth. In this is a warning for such as have eyes to
see." [Qur'an: Al-i-Imran 3:13]
The Makkans were not satisfied with expelling the Muslims from
Makkah and subsequently desired that they be purged from the
surroundings of all major trade routes.So God supported the
Muslims and informed them that God would allow justice to
prevail over oppression. He informed them that they should not
fear fighting in God's path, but it is the enemies who should fear
God's retribution for their oppression and injustice. Also, God
inspired the ANGELS to support the believers and strike the
disbelievers.This was NOT a command for the Muslims.
Allah helped Muslim at Battle of Badr by sending angels.The
Quran confirms this in
"(Remember)when you sought help of your Lord and He
answered you (saying): "I will help you with a thousand
of the angels,each behind the other (following one another) in
succession." [Anfal 8:9]
Ar-Rabi bin Anas said: “On the day of Badr people could see
those who had been slain by the angels among the dead
by the blows above the necks and on their fingertips which
looked as if fire had burnt them.” [Bayhaqi]....peace

mr lanre,here we are again...u called someone copy and paste...and you have just copied and pasted what you have been pasted in all post...good for you.

Like i said before,all these your writings should be sent to BOKO-HARAM, ALQUEDA and all other arab nations etc, not here in NL,they are the ones that need them...they are the ones that is practising AND FOLLOWING ISLAM.
Except they stop,then you have not been able to prove anything...if boko haram are not muslims,what about alqueda or those arab nations...pls let us stop decieving ourselves!

Can you seperate islam from mohammed? A true muslim follow the teachings and words of mohammed and allah!

lanrexlan: Abi jare,ALLAH said in the glorious Quran in surah Al-baqarah 2;18-''They are deaf,dumb and blind,they will never return to the straight path.''
@brother desika and alexis,inform us anytime you open another thread,we are always ready to expose your ignorance about Islam and misconceptions....Peace.

thank God u said allah: bcus the last time i checked;he is not a straight path-it is not even close to it!
We are not dummies that you will just throw anything at-our own time of non-muslim wants to knw what we believe in,but we are not convince-allah is not worth following and you have proved it here...

Obadiah is a false teacher...people should not listen to him...HE IS A DENIAL OF THE POWER IN GOD'S WORDS!
USING SYMBOLS TO INTERPRETE THE BIBLE IS DEMONIC AND ITS THE DOCTRINES OF DEMONS!
SUCH SYMBOLS ARE USED IN THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS!

WHEN JESUS WALKED ON THE WATER,HE ASKED PETER TO COME,DIDN'T HE WALKED ON WATER TOO?
PLease read your bible very well and don't listen to THIS MAN WHO DENY THE POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD!

Mark 6:45-53.=Jesus walked on the water!

Act 10: 47-48
" can anyone object to their being baptized,now that they have recieved the Holy Spirit just as we did?"
So he gave them orders for them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ...

False teachers are decieved by a lying spirit and they twist the scriptures!
BEWARE!
Shalom.

tintingz: i quoted out the gospel of barnabas from your brothers website and stop spitting rubbish!

your own brothers abi? Have u not seen my answer and d questions i asked? Sorry o!
Follow-follow!

lanrexlan: [url][/url]Brother,I have replied you before,nowhere in my posts did I say you can't the quran in other languages,I simply said arabic is one of the most difficult language to translate.Every muslim do read arabic daily,during the 5daily prayer,SOLAT are being prayed using arabic quran,So all the points you raised up there has been nullified.Maybe this link will clarify it.

http://opishposh.com/10-hardest-languages-to-learn-for-english-speakers/

you better check your post very well;ayenni as also claim likewise!
And you have not really bother to know why your allah would write his book in of the "10" hardest language?

lanrexlan: I will once again show your ignorance.The other time I told you The quran wasn't revealed in English,that it was arabic and arabic is one of the languages that's not easily translated,you said rubbish that day telling me if I tried persia.You never understand arabic,you don't have a quran(arabic or even english).

laxtran,why are you denying again? Huh...look above!

And look at my reply:
[b]REALLY? SO IF I DON'T READ QURAN IN ARABIC,I CAN'T READ QURAN? OHHHH,NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE LIKE talk2me DON'T READ AND UNDERSTAND THE QURAN(THEY ONLY LISTEN TO WHAT THEY WERE TOLD BY MULLAHS).SO EVERYBODY MUST UNDERSTAND ARABIC BEFORE THEY READ THE QURAN?
BUT WAIT A MINUTE-IS ALLAH NOT A GOD? ARE U SAYING HE ONLY CARES FOR THE ARABS? THAT PPL CAN'T READ D QURAN EXCEPT IN ARABIC? DIDNT HE KNOW ABOUT THE MISTAKE IN WRITING OR TRANSLATING ARABIC? WHY DID HE CHOOSE ARABIC THEN, SINCE THERE WILL BE ERROR IN READING IT?
PLS LET ME ASK A SINCERE QUESTION- DID YOU READ THE ARABIC QURAN? YOU DON'T READ ENGLISH QURAN?(I DOUBT THAT). NOW IF YOU READ ARABIC QURAN-IS IT THE EXACT QURAN ALLAH GAVE MOHAMMED? BECAUSE ARABIC IS DIFFICULT TO TRANSLATE/WRITE I.E THE ARABIC QURAN YOU ARE READING TO HAS AN ERROR OR WAS IT THE SAME ONE ALLAH GAVE TO MOHAMMED? NAWA O!
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LANGUAGES WE HAVE IN THE WORLD TODAY? DIDN'T ALLAH KNOW THAT? SO HE IS THE GOD OF THE ARABS NOT THE WORLD? I AM SHORT OF WORDS, BUT I AM NOT SURPRISED![/b]

Mohammed even said- " i am Arab, and the quran is in arabic and the talk of those in paradise is in arabic''(Trifkovic p.95 quoting an hadith).

The above is saying that allah language is arabic i.e,he doesnt understand any other language apart from arabic! And anybody that dies without knowing arabic (bcus they won't know tha quran)will not go to paradise.(well i dint say that) What a pity.
So billions of ppl will not enter allah's paradise! And i can tell you that out of the 'acclaimed' 2billion muslims,more than half of them will not enter allah's paradise(bcus most of them don't knw arabic,even cnt read arabic quran)..hmmm;now i understand why those arabs are the ones practising islam...[/quote]

tintingz: This from a christian site on the gospel of Barnabas, long but start from the main issue


The written Gospel of Barnabas

Whereupon he caused him to be scourged by his slaves, who were paid by the scribes to slay him under the scourges. But God, who had decreed the issue, reserved Judas for the cross, in order that he might suffer that horrible death to which he had sold another. He did not suffer Judas to die under the scourges, notwithstanding that the soldiers scourged him so grievously that his body rained blood. Thereupon, in mockery they clad him in an old purple garment;, saying: 'It is fitting to our new king to clothe him and crown him': so they gathered thorns and made a crown, like those of gold and precious stones which kings wear on their heads. And this crown of thorns they placed upon Judas' head, putting in his hand a reed for sceptre;, and they made him sit in a high place.

And the soldiers came before him, bowing down in mockery, saluting him as King of the Jews. And they held out their hands to receive gifts, such as new kings are accustomed to give; and receiving nothing they smote Judas, saying: 'Now, how are you crowned, foolish king, if you will not pay your soldiers and servants?' *The chief priests with the scribes and Pharisees, seeing that Judas died not by the scourges, and fearing lest Pilate should set him at liberty, made a gift of money to the governor, who having received it gave Judas to the scribes and Pharisees as guilty to death. Whereupon they condemned two robbers with him to the death of the cross.


So they led him to Mount Calvary, where they used to hang malefactors, and there they crucified him naked;, for the greater ignominy. *Judas truly did nothing else but cry out: 'God, why have you forsaken me, seeing the malefactor has escaped and I die unjustly?' *Truly I say that the voice, the face, and the person of Judas were so like to Jesus, that his disciples and believers entirely believed that he was Jesus; wherefore some departed from the doctrine of Jesus, believing that Jesus had been a false prophet, and that by art magic he had done the miracles which he did: for Jesus had said that he should not die till near the end of the world; for that at that time he should be taken away from the world.


But they that stood firm in the doctrine of Jesus were so encompassed with sorrow, seeing him die who was entirely like to Jesus, that they remembered not what Jesus had said. And so in company with the mother of Jesus they went to Mount Calvary, and were not only present at the death of Judas, weeping continually, but by means of Nicodemus and Joseph of Abarimathia; they obtained from the governor the body of Judas to bury it. Whereupon, they took him down from the cross with such weeping as assuredly no one would believe, and buried him in the new sepulchre of Joseph; having wrapped him up in an hundred pounds of precious ointments.

http://barnabas.net/chapters/265.html?task=view

Now someone should tell me if this is false or true?

haaa...mr tintinz...you seem to have so many versions of the (fake)bibles: first you said queen james version and now it is the gospel of barnabas!

Well my quetion still stand-is that the original bible or the corruptd/lost one? Is that the one talk2me found in turkey?
Is that the gospel you are using to validate the quran and mohammed?

Hints-
1. pls check the meaning of *gospel* in the dictionary.
2. There is nothing like gospel of barnabas,it is only "gospel of the Jesus*,hence it should be the *gospel of Jesus christ according to st...*
3. Judas is one of Jesus' disciples,so how com the romans are so daft and killed him(bro ayenni said it was simon-so i am not surprised).
4. There so many ppl who testified that it was Jesus they killed-will Jesus' mother not recognise his son? We have,all Jesus disciples,luke,even judas knew Jesus was crucified brfore he(hanged) himself etc.
4. Barnabas was not even a disciple of Jesus...he came yrs after Jesus have come and gone...

So my dear,get your facts right and stop diverting our attention!

[quote author=lanrexlan]Mr lamelliform head@mintayo,nowhere in the quran does ALLAH said the people of scriptures(Jews and christians)lost the injeel and torah,and nowhere in our posts do we say that either.ALLAH said they threw it behind their backs as if they didn't know and that's what we said here.

(PLS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN-YOU THROW SOMETHING BEHIND YOUR BACK,CAN'T YOU GET IT BACK? MAY BE YOU SHLD ASK talk2me ABT WHAT HE SAID CONCERNING THE LOST BIBLE-BCUS IF IT IS NOT LOST,HOW COME THEY FOUND IT IN TURKEY)

Surah Al-baqarah 2;75-''Do you faithful believers covet they will believe in your religion inspite the fact that a party of them(Jews and Christians) used to hear the word of ALLAH(injeel and torah),then they used to change it knowingly after they...
IT IS CORRUPT,THEY THROW IT BEHIND THEIR BACK,THEY LOST IT AND NOW THIS ONE-PLS WHICH ONE SHOULD WE BELIEVE? BUT ALLAH GAVE JESUS THIS SCRIPTURES NOW?

Let me explain your ignorance to you,the people of the scriptures(Jews and Christians)after the revelation were given to them,
(SO IT WAS NOT GIVEN TO JESUS AGAIN,BUT TO THE JEWS AND CHRISTAINS)
a party of them changed the word of ALLAH in it and put their own words into the revelation and we have explained all that before.

(PLS WHO CAME FIRST-JESUS OR THE JEWS-THE REVELATIONS WHERE SHOWN TO JESUS NOW??)

Secondly,if you are still searching for the lost injeel
(HEY,I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS NOT LOST?)


the time of the people who threw away the injeel and torah behind their backs

(PLS THROW YOUR PHONE BEHIND YOUR BACK WHETHER YOU WILL NOT SEE IT AGAIN).

Please don't be confused.

deSika: hi Lanrexlan and others. i am particularly interested in this question

pls help me ask them,i am tired of asking that question;i wish ayenni is here-he seem to know much about the Bible!

[=lanrexlan]

I will once again show your ignorance.The other time I told you The quran wasn't revealed in English,that it was arabic and arabic is one of the languages that's not easily translated,you said rubbish that day telling me if I tried persia.You never understand arabic....

[b]REALLY? SO IF I DON'T READ QURAN IN ARABIC,I CAN'T READ QURAN? OHHHH,NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE LIKE talk2me DON'T READ AND UNDERSTAND THE QURAN(THEY ONLY LISTEN TO WHAT THEY WERE TOLD BY MULLAHS)...NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU FLOG CHILDREN TO READ THE QURAN.SO EVERYBODY MUST UNDERSTAND ARABIC BEFORE THEY READ THE QURAN?
BUT WAIT A MINUTE-IS ALLAH NOT A GOD? ARE U SAYING HE ONLY CARES FOR THE ARABS? THAT PPL CAN'T READ D QURAN EXCEPT IN ARABIC? DIDNT HE KNOW ABOUT THE MISTAKE IN WRITING OR TRANSLATING ARABIC? WHY DID HE CHOOSE ARABIC THEN, SINCE THERE WILL BE ERROR IN READING IT?
PLS LET ME ASK A SINCERE QUESTION- DID YOU READ THE ARABIC QURAN? YOU DON'T READ ENGLISH QURAN?(I DOUBT THAT). NOW IF YOU READ ARABIC QURAN-IS IT THE EXACT QURAN ALLAH GAVE MOHAMMED? BECAUSE ARABIC IS DIFFICULT TO TRANSLATE/WRITE I.E THE ARABIC QURAN YOU ARE READING TO HAS AN ERROR OR WAS IT THE SAME ONE ALLAH GAVE TO MOHAMMED? NAWA O!
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LANGUAGES WE HAVE IN THE WORLD TODAY? DIDN'T ALLAH KNOW THAT? SO HE IS THE GOD OF THE ARABS NOT THE WORLD? I AM SHORT OF WORDS, BUT I AM NOT SURPRISED![/b]

Mohammed even said- " i am Arab, and the quran is in arabic and the talk of those in paradise is in arabic''(Trifkovic p.95 quoting an hadith).

The above is saying that allah language is arabic i.e,he doesnt understand any other language apart from arabic! And anybody that dies without knowing arabic (bcus they won't know tha quran)will not go to paradise.(well i dint say that) What a pity.
So billions of ppl will not enter allah's paradise! And i can tell you that out of the 'acclaimed' 2billion muslims,more than half of them will not enter allah's paradise(bcus most of them don't knw arabic,even cnt read arabic quran)..hmmm;now i understand why those arabs are the ones practising islam...
Laxtran,do you know arabic? I am sure you knw the implication of that!
You have just shot yourself an arrow- you better clear that up!

So from what you are sayingabt Jesus,it is only arabic quran can proof it...lool;so what you,tintinz(that Jesus didnt resurrect) have been tellin us may not be true,how are we sure you are quoting the arabic quran-because you are saying different things(just asking).

Hmmm...peace.

[quote author=talk2me006]see the question i answer with proof below:

Proffdada: (from profdada)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra


from me

LOL!

boolean ! boolean!
i have come across many christians explaining this trinity in many funny ways.boolean again!
it is now glaring that your religion is a confused one

let me correct your notion:

God is One

The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"


Myself and Alexis(i used the illustration of the sun while he used atom) have answered that question,if you can't se it,na you sabi(NO CHRISTAIN MY DEAR WILL TELL YOU GOD IS THREE,so get your fat right)



also


alexis: ( from your oga at the top- alexis)

Okay - since it is corrupt. Can you provide the Injeel? Please don't say it is lost because you can't claim the bible is corrupt and you don't have the original.

SO IT WAS NOT FOUND IN JERUSALEM BUT TURKEY?
Did you read the article of what you pasted?I THOUGHT ALLAH GAVE JESUS THE SCRIPTURES(REVELATIONS),His followers now lost it? And allah gave Mohammed another one,that contradicts the one Jesus followers lost? What a god.
Question- 1.'assuming' that Jesus followers lost it,please name one,pls just one of his follower that lost it.
2. I am sure for Jesus follower to have lost the bible,so it means that Jesus gave it to them(his followers)-pls name the followers Jesus gave them too pls.

(don't forget the question i asked also-that d bible passage you are using to validate d quran,is it the original or the lost/corrupted one?)


I AM WAITING PLS.

talk2me006: if u admit that.let me know.

coming bak later for u.....

just few hours i will be bak....

i am sure you already have the anwer to all those bible verses you quote up their-(you are bible scholar now).
So his answer will never tally with yours-what your mullahs have already told you.

talk2me006: not in some way! admit that you didnt asnwer my questions and that the only two u are trying to answer are answered out of context.

admit that first then i will now answer your question perfectly.

Are you this desperate?
Guy,you are funny o,you want to put words in his mouth; he should admit against his own will, anyways i am not surprised,that what you ppl do,it s your nature-always forcing people to do things against their wish-YOU WANT HIM TO ADMIT TO LIES?

Esss: In other News Boko haram promises to welcome the President of America with open hands and fireworks..

i am sure by now-500 American secret agents will be in Nigeria without our knowing it; american heavily armed submarine(s) will be 'swimming' in 'our' lagoon wiithout us knowing it; i am sure american 'invisible' drones will be flying like eagle over Nigeria-if any Nigerian mosquito bites Obama, lasan-i hope Nigeria will not be history-starting from Abuja...anyway i.e if the story is true...loool!

talk2me006: i dey laugh in kanuri

who first ask u a question? for you to answer my question with a new fresh topic, that mean u have confused already!

just answer my question or admit those terrorism verses i quoted for u then i will now knock u out with a valid answer to the fresh question u nw ask me.


ALEXIS ! YOU JUST PROVE TO ME THAT U ARE A EMPTY BARREL.

remember also u must answer all the question i will ask after i answer ur own.

so answer me first.

Oga,how many questions have you answered? How many questions have you provided answer to? You were jus dodging the questions and derailing-more than 5 questions have been asked and non,i repeat non have provided answer,instead you have been doing 'follow- follow' and pasting a Bible passage your 'mulahs' told you...even though he explained them to you,are you ready to see the truth in them?

You shall know the Truth and the truth shall set you FREE!

tintingz: Lolz... Quran 19:33 says Jesus died? Lanrexlans explained the verse and yet these trinitarian worshipers still argue like lost sheeps


Here is what Noble Verse 19:33 states:

"So peace is upon me [Jesus] the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life."

Trinitarian Christians believe that Jesus was GOD Himself, or part of GOD, came to earth, was crucified on the cross to purify our sins and then raised from death back to life and went up to heaven until he will come back again to this earth.

The Noble Quran does not in anyway support this theory!. We Muslims believe that Jesus was born from a Noble Virgin; Mary the Virgin, preached the word of GOD to the people of Israel, raised to Allah Almighty alive (even though he might have been put on the cross, but never actually died), will come back to earth again to fight the army of Satan and then die a natural death and then be raised again back to life from death as we all do in the Day of Judgement. Some Muslim scholars say that Jesus not being crucified in Noble Verse 4:157 means that he was put on the cross but didn't die, and others say that it means that he was not put on the cross itself and never died either. There are some Christian sects such as the Basilidans, the Docetate and the Marcionite do not believe that Jesus was put on the cross.

Either way, it doesn't really matter whether he was put on the cross or not. The more important point is that Jesus never died according to Islam. There is a similar Verse to 19:33 in the Noble Quran that was mentioned to another Messenger of GOD:

"So peace on him [Yahya, or John the Baptist] the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life! (Quran, 19:15)"

This Noble Verse (19:15) is similar to 19:33, where it does not at all state that any Messenger of GOD was crucified or will die twice!. The reason why no Messenger of GOD will ever die twice is because Allah Almighty said clearly in His Noble Book that every soul He creates (this includes all of His Messengers and Prophets even Jesus) shall taste death once;

"Nor will they [all humans who end up in heaven] there taste death, except the first death; and He will preserve them from the penalty of the blazing fire. (Quran, 44:56)"

Did John the baptist died and ressurected??

good of you,what about that part that say;allah decieved christains to believe that Jesus died,whereas He was not the one that was killed,and your brother Ayenni,said it was Simon-you people will not stop to amaze me!

alexis: One day during a lunch break from your job in Washington D.C, you are waiting for a friend on a street corner when a strangely dressed couple approaches you and asks if they can speak to you for a moment.

The man has a powered wig on his head and is wearing a silk shirt, a waistcoat, breeches that reach only to his knees, silk stockings and black shoes with a silver buckle on each shoe.

The woman is wearing a powdered wig and a long, flowing dress that reaches almost to the ground. They look like a couple that has just stepped out of a movie set for an American Revolutionary War film.

The couple starts to explain to you that they are followers of a religion in which George Washington was a mighty prophet of Ba-al. Everything that George Washington taught, believed, said and practices must be accepted as the inspired Word of Ba-al, who is the one true God.

The speeches and letters which people think came from Washington are in the English language because that is the language of heaven. Even though there are foreign-language translations of some of these writings, they really cannot be understood unless they are in the original English.

The speeches of Washington were actually written in heaven on a tablet of stone. George Washington did not really write a single page of his works; they were given to him bu the angel Gabriel out of heaven. Washington merely recited them when Ba-al so ordered.

The strangely dressed couple went on to explain that because Washington was a prophet of Ba-al, the true God, we must live as George Washington lived. For example, all men should dress the way George Washington dressed, and all women should wear a dress such as Mrs, Washington wore. We must eat the food that the Washington's ate. For example, George Washington did not like peas so no one should eat peas.

Washington political views must be viewed as the only valid form of government. And, since he owned slaves, slavery must be viewed as being a valid political structure for today. At that moment the alarm on the man's wristwatch goes off and he pulls a compass out of his coat pocket. After facing in a certain direction, the couple gets down on their hands and knees and bows in prayer.

After they finish praying, they get up. You can't help but ask them what they were doing? They explained that they must pray 5 times a day toward Washington D.C where the Washington Memorial stands. As a matter of fact, all those who are true followers of GW must make a pilgrimage to Wasington D.C at least once in their life-time.

Once they get there, they must run around the Washington Memorial 7 times. Then they have to run down to the end of the mall and throw some stones at the devil.
The man and his wife also remark that the Washington Memorial was actually built by Adam. Although it had been subsequently destroyed at various periods it was eventually rebuilt by Abraham, and all the biblical patriarchs actually lived at that exact spot. The Washington Memorial is a sacred sire and it has always been part of the worship of God.

At this point they ask for your opinion, so you give it: They can't really be serious about this religion of Washingtonianism. The idea of bowing in prayer toward the Washington Memorial is absurd. The memorial was not built bu Adam or rebuilt by Abraham. The patriarchs did not live in Washington D.C but in Israel. The whole thing seems ridiculous.

They respond that they are in dead earnest and that they really believe that GW was a prophet of Ba-al and that his writings were the Word of God.

You respond by saying, "It seems to me that you have made a religion out of 18th century American colonial culture". Do you really expect people in the 21st century to live, dress, and eat in accordance with the habits and tastes of people living in the 1700's in the United States?

"What if the Russians were to invent a religion in which we were told that we has to pray toward Moscow five times a day? Why can't the Japanese invent a religion in which everyone has to pray toward Tokyo? Why can't the Mexicans say that you must take a pilgrimage to Mexico City once in your life time or you will not be saved?"

"This whole religion seems to be silly at the least and racist at the worst. Why would you expect every culture and every race of people to live the way that people in the 18th century colonial America did? It just doesn't make sense".

At this point, the man opens his coat and reveals a shoulder harness with a gun in it. He says that his religion does not allow anyone to ridicule or blaspheme the holy faith. He says he will kill anyone that speaks anything criticizing his prophet and his god Ba-al.

You tell him - you will speak with him later and leave.


DOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR?

very familiar...very familiar!
I think i am going to write a book on this...using this your analogy

lanrexlan: Cocoon,all your questions have been answered but I see you are blindfolded and can't even reason,think and see at all.Your questions 1,2,3,4,7 and 8 have been answered perfectly and I don't expect you to accept it.But to your question 6 about the death and resurrection of jesus(pbuh).

Surah Maryam 19;33-''And peace be upon me the day I was born,and they I die and the day I shall be raised alive''.

Brother,not only jesus(pbuh)said that,john the baptist(pbuh) also does,the same applies to him.

Surah Maryam 19;15-''And peace be on him the day he was born,and the day he dies and the day he will be raised up alive''.
So tell me john the baptist(pbuh) also died and then resurrect? The bible said he was beheaded.The explanation of the above verses applies to everybody.Peace on everyone the day he/she was born,and the day he/she dies and the day he/she will be raised alive.Jesus(pbuh) was born and peace be upon him that day,the day he dies(his second coming),he's not dead yet.When he comes back in his second,then he will die a normal death and peace upon him the day he will be raised alive(resurrection).Every Human being will be raised up alive on the day of judgement.So all what jesus(pbuh) and john the baptist(pbuh)said in the above verses applies to everybody.It doesn't confirm the death and resurrection of the bible.Quran doesn't endorse his crucifixion.
I hope that clears that,maybe you will understand because you love beating around the bush,repeating the same question that have been answered.The other time I told you your reasoning is very low and you don't read the quran,copy and paste from anti islamic websites,it was like I was abusing you.But I am saying the truth.....Peace

my friend,don't sound confusing-bcus that is what u are doing-look at what you said;" when he dies,that is his second coming"?-can you hear yourself now?-someone dies and that is the person's second coming?
You said,"He is not dead yet"-then where is He?
Do you know that your quran also claim that "allah decieve jews and christain about Jesus death? That it was not Him that died-that it was somebody else-Simon? Well that was what most of your brother says...well alexis has said it all-you people choose what you wana believe-but me don't know what to believe from the above? Funny!

talk2me006: yes! that is exactly where i see your yansh exposed.

try to bookmark it and enjoy the website. :

http://www.defending-islam.com/page95.html

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=162254240473487&comments


i said it. to every anti-islam website, there are 100 good islamic website that will exposed their liar.

i bet that is a *defensive jihad*,i should bookmark a page where you guys were been brainwashed and turned into a 'domie' who cannot think for himself?
Smh...can't do that.
Like i said before:sit down with your book(and leave the Bible out of it),your hadiths and ask your 'mullahs' questions,you will discover that you know more than them!

Shalom.

talk2me006: that s very good.
i can see u did not disputed the fact that ur bible is corrupt.

if we didnt research ur bible how will muslim believe wat quran say that your bible has been corrupted.

i was thinking you will dissaprove the above error in bible with point!

shame on you


go to : http://www.al-islam.org/short/closerlook/5.htm


it will solve your problem

why would i dispute u,when ur point is baseless-u have not been able to proof it,neither have u answererd d questions thrown to u-instead u dodge them like a 'good muslim u are'.
All the verses u are quoting to validate quran and mohammed are they the original or corrupts one?

talk2me006: mr copy and paste !
you have gone there again and copy it here as usual.

the main problem of you and those who wrote that for u can be summarize below:

(a) YOU AND THEM misunderstands the Qur’an



(b) for the Quranic passages in question, they relies on a faulty translation which supports the misunderstanding



(c) you and them take the passages out of their context to support such a misunderstanding.




now , read here the way they open your yansh : http://www.defending-islam.com/page95.html

ALSO READ HERE TO SEE THE WAY YOUR YANSH EXPOSED HERE TOO: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=162254240473487&comments



man u fail again!
try again.

i see,those are the places you get all your quotes from? Good of you;my friend sit down and read your quran,hadiths and seelah yourself and see what your 'mullahs' been feeding you!

After all you have nothing to say to what i posted above...or do you want more?

Shalom

tintingz: good job brotha... Its better for us to ignore them, what he posted have been answered Mintayo is following the footstep of his brotha alexis who is fun of repeating same questions over and over again

We should not waste our time answering what they already know is like the reason for these thread has faded away, the op who created these thread desika is no where to be found, maybe he is busy

The topic says ''How
Muslims Can Teach Non- Muslims About Islam'' but they are not ready to know about islam but to argue like lost sheeps... peace brotha

yes that was what the topic said -but when you refused to answer the questions of non-muslim nko?
Do u think all non-muslim are d same-this is a matter of life and death-and we cannot base our life on a religion that is filled with hatred and violence,that do not allow us to think ourselves but whatever our 'mullahs' tells us etc.
Pls you have not answered any question-don't be decieved. Check what ur brothers say here:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/