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lanrexlan: Firstly,the muslims you watched on tv singing and using musical instruments,are they using for worship or entertainment

you christians beat drums and clap and call it ''PRAISE WORSHIP''.If these muslims are singing and beating drums when offering SOLAT in the mosques,then you can conclude they are using it as a form of worship,but it's not so.It's entertainment and not worship.

Secondly,you said hindus and pagans also bow,so they can be called muslims.That's a lie,when jesus(pbuh)fell on his face,he fell and worship the one true God,not idols.The same with we muslims,we fall on our faces everyday to worship the one true God.Hindus and pagans bow to idols,objects that created by themselves,that's the different bro.

Thirdly,to worship.You said psalms give the authority to clap hands and beat drums.Brother,praising God is different from worshipping Him,it may be a part of it.

Worship is given in the gospel of mark 5;6 as well as other places in the bible as;
1)To adore.2)To respect.3)To adulate.4)To revere.

But the meaning of worship given in gospel of luke 8;28 means ''TO FELL UPON ONE'S FACE''.

lanrex: Thirdly,to your john claim that Jesus said 'I and my father are one',therefore they are one single being.If you have read your bible,in gospel of john 17;21-''That they all may be one;as you,Father art in me,and I in
thee,that they also may be one in us:” (John 17:21)
“One” used in both the verses John 10:30 and John 17:21 is the
same.If you believe that 'one' used in gospel of john 10;30 means jesus and God are one single being,then you must also believe that the twelve disciples,jesus and God are one single being(14gods in one)as used in gospel of john 17;21,it's the same.The true meaning of both verses is that God is one,jesus and his disciples believed that he is one,then they have the same commonality-Oneness of God,therefore they are all one,not in flesh.Their teachings are the same.If you don't agree,then prove it to me.

Lastly,brother If I show a verse from the bible that call you a slave of God,will you admit you are one
Peace..

lanrexlan: Secondly,you said jesus(pbuh)is God in Human form,the flesh.Brother,for example if I create a dvd player,do I need to become a dvd player before I can know what's good and what's bad for the dvd player? I will just write an instruction manual for the dvd player for people to follow,press play button to play it,press stop button to stop,don't throw it down it will get spoilt,

Similarly,God is our creator and He's far knowledgeable than the dvd player creator,so God doesn't need to become a human to know what's good and bad for humans,

rather he will choose men amongst men(prophets)and communicate with them on a higher level through revelations,the do's and dont's for humans.The last and final instruction manual for mankind is the glorious Quran.
Peace..

lanrexlan: Brother,I don't even pass through the gates of a school,I don't know what a school is.

The father is greater than all.

Jesus(pbuh)said in the gospel of john 10;29-''my father is greater than all''.He also said in another verse that ''my father is greater than I''

How can they be equal then? God is greater than all,not equal to anybody

Allah said in the glorious quran in surah Ikhlas 112;1-4-''say;He's ALLAH,one and only.ALLAH the absolute,the eternal.He begets not nor was he begotten and there's none co-equal to him''.

Brother,ALLAH said in the glorious Quran that I am closer to my slave than his own jugular vein,if you remembers ALLAH,he remembers you.

Nowhere in the quran doesn't it says that jesus(pbuh) is the spirit of ALLAH,it says jesus(pbuh) is a spirit(word) from ALLAH,a soul created by ALLAH not spirit of ALLAH.

Feel free,believe in your trinity ALLAH warns muslims against such fabrication and concoction.....Peace

lanrexlan: LOLZ,can't help laughing.You are even talking brother mintayo,you of all people.You can't refute a single contradiction we raised in your bible.

Where's the truth in christianity? Jesus(pbuh)preached monotheism

I believed in monotheism

who's following jesus(pbuh),me or you?

Jesus(pbuh)fell on his face in his worship,I do fall on my face 5times a day

,you always clap and beat drums in your worship,who's following jesus(pbuh),me or you?

Jesus(pbuh)wasn't the founder of christianity

i rest my case....

alexis: It is always interesting to see muslims ask for evidence of the GodHead from the Bible yet when you provide it, they will tell you the Bible is corrupt . Ask them for the original Bible, they will tell you it is lost. Ask them for the lost Injeel, they will tell you the Jews and Christians threw it away. Omo, una funny Oh!

You asked for evidence that Jesus taught about the Father,the Holy Spirit and the Son (Again, the word Trinity is not in the Bible, it simple means the Godhead)

Matthew 28:19 == Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. THIS IS JESUS SPEAKING OHHHH!

John 14:8 === Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9 === Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

These are Jesus teachings and not that of Paul or Peter oh!. These are teachings that had existed 600 years before Mohammed and before "Angel Gabriel" told him that Jesus is not the Son of God.

At His own baptism, God the son stood in the water being baptized by John, as God the Father spoke audibly from Heaven, as God the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in visible form:

Matthew 3:16-17 === And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him,and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said, "This is my beloved Son,3 with whom I am well pleased."

I find it shocking that muslims find it hard to believe that Almighty God the creator of the heavens and earth; can decide to manifest himself in the form of a Human Being. Is that something too hard for God to do?

lanrexlan: Vedacool has told me your problems,you can't reason at all that's number one.You don't wanna learn about Islam,you said you found nothing glorious about the Quran and that's because your heart is sealed for the truth.It's high time I left this thread,go on with your brainwashed trinity.I have got exams to write...Peace

alnaijiri: Not supporting kidnapping or other violence by BH, but I call for one nation from the Atlantic to the Northern savannahs, from the Benin border to the Cameroon border, under sharia and the rule of devout Muslims. Only then can dignity be restored to this land. God willing.

tintingz: oh you forgot about isreal and U.S dirty plan bombing and killing innocent palestinian!

http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-88577/Israeli-warplanes-bomb-Palestinian-police-HQ.html

The isreali-palestinian conflicts!

lanrexlan: Brother,see your words you said ''WHAT's THE USE OF THE SUN WITHOUT HEAT AND LIGHT?''

Brother,heat and light are products of the sun and they aren't equivalent to the sun i.e. Heat isn't the sun and light isn't the sun.

But [b]trinitarians[/b]do claim all these three-the father,the son and the holy spirit are the same.

hope I have made myself clear,i don't understand and comprehend a fabrication,a concoction.

God is one

and doesn't dwell in anyone

deSika: just one thing I need u to help me do

Pls can yu explain "a king from among thy brethren " deut 17: 15

deSika: just one thing I need u to help me do

Pls can yu explain "a king from among thy brethren " deut 17: 15

lanrexlan: Brother mintayo,before I reply to your claims above,my question is are trying to say that the son and the holy spirit are products of the father,just like heat and light are products of the sun? If you can answer that correctly,then I will analyse the above claim....Peace

lanrexlan: Brother mintayo,before I reply to your claims above,my question is are trying to say that the son and the holy spirit are products of the father,just like heat and light are products of the sun? If you can answer that correctly,then I will analyse the above claim....Peace

To mister bolean

,the sun is a body its products are heat energy and light energy.Without the sun,there's no heat nor light.

God is omnipotent,he exists alone he doesn't need anybody to be part of him.

The only thing you guys are comparing is because all your claims are in threes,so God can be in 3persons but still one...

obadiah777: PAY ATTENTION. I ALREADY GAVE INTERPRETATION FOR THAT.

48 MATTHEW 24 And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea HE SAW THEM STRUGGLING AGAINST THE REPROBATE AND BELLIGERENT ROWDY SCOFFERS AND HE WALKED UP TO THE SCOFFERS AND BATTLED THEM

alexis: Let me ask you a question - Did the "Lost Injeel" have the Godhead in it? Trying to explain the Trinity to you is almost like imagining a plastic glass

I gave you an example of an ATOM - you understood that concept yet BRANCHED OFF totally and talked about the decomposition of the atom . I never mentioned the decomposition of an atom but for some reason you decided to deviate from the central theme .

I thought about another example that should make sense to you - I AM FULLY AWARE YOU WOULDN'T ACCEPT IT BUT I AM INTERESTED ON HOW YOU WOULD VIEW IT

Time exists as Past, Present, Future - they are 3 but 1. Is this a simpler example for you mate

alexis: Let me ask you a question - Did the "Lost Injeel" have the Godhead in it? Trying to explain the Trinity to you is almost like imagining a plastic glass

I gave you an example of an ATOM - you understood that concept yet BRANCHED OFF totally and talked about the decomposition of the atom . I never mentioned the decomposition of an atom but for some reason you decided to deviate from the central theme .

I thought about another example that should make sense to you - I AM FULLY AWARE YOU WOULDN'T ACCEPT IT BUT I AM INTERESTED ON HOW YOU WOULD VIEW IT

Time exists as Past, Present, Future - they are 3 but 1. Is this a simpler example for you mate

talk2me006: interesing
taking my breakfast with hot cofee and bread
i cant stop laughing with these people.
keep them coming , your yansh will be exposed one by one. i promise !

just let me come bak and charge my laptop.

Bidam: Abeg go siddon.Obadiah has more bible sense than you

obadiah777: AND I REPEAT, THE NEW TESTAMENT FROM CORINTHIANS ON DOWN ARE LETTERS WRITTEN BETWEEN PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO INSERT YOURSELF INTO IT. WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET FROM THOSE LETTERS IS WHAT THESE ELECT MEN HAD TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO UNITE THE WHOLE WORLD BOTH JEW AND GENTILES TO GOD UNDER THE LAW. THATS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET FROM IT. NOTHING MORE. THEY ARE NOT MEANT FOR YOU TO THINK YOU WERE GIVEN GRACE OR YOU ARE ABOVE THE LAW. YOU NEED A REAL LESSON IN HOW TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE CHIEF. YOUR PASTOR HAS FAILED YOU. IF YOU ARE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO LET GO OFF ALL THE LIES YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT FROM YOUR PASTORS, I MAY GIVE YOU A FEW POINTERS. HOWEVER YOU HAVE TO APPROACH THIS AS A CHILD WITH ABSOLUTE ENTHUSIASM AND WITH A CLEAN SLATE. YOU GOTTA GET RID OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW CUZ IT IS RUBBISH THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. YOU GOTTA BE MEEK AND HUMBLE ENOUGH TO SAY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNT SO FAR IS RUBBISH. I WENT THROUGH THAT PHASE TOO. FORTUNATELY FOR ME, I DONT HAVE THE SPIRIT OF A HOARDER OR SCOFFER ALWAYS UNWILLINGLY TO LET GO OFF THINGS I HAD LEARNED FROM SINCE I WAS A KID. AS SOON AS I GOT INTRODUCED TO THE RIGHT WAY OF READING THE BIBLE, IN THAT SECOND I QUICKLY DITCHED EVERYTHING I THOUGHT I KNEW. WASNT EVEN ANY RELUCTANCE ON MY PART

ONLY THE ELECT WERE GIVEN GRACE AND ARE ABOVE THE LAW.

Qkeyxyz:
23But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25[size=13pt]But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor[/size](Galatians 3:23-25)

lanrexlan: Mr boleanI can't keep wasting my time replying you because your brain rating is very low,you can't reason and assimilate easily,my advice for you get yourself a memory card,maybe 128MB and a RAM of 56MB,maybe that may help you to process information very faster...Peace

tintingz: Mintayo you got served!

Thank you sir lanrexlan

I dey miss alexis for this thread o

lanrexlan: Mr boleanprophet muhammed(pbuh) isn't the founder of Islam.

No prophet ever founded any religion,they all came to preach one thing-THERE's NO DEITY WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE(ALLAH)

They want to islamize the nation and killing of those people will turn them to muslims? Can a dead man worship? Can't you think at all?

What did prophet muhammed(pbuh) did? He fought the enemies of Islam,ALLAH and those that fought him on the account of his religion,the oppressors and transgressors.

Mister,USA is the greatest terrorist in the world,do you that?!!! George washington was the number terrorist of america.

Mr bolean,I can see you are really following jesus(pbuh),[s]he believed and worshiped only God,he bowed in his worship[/s]

He never believe in trinity

he never clap nor beat drums.Which of his teachings do you follow?

lanrexlan: Mister,we don't need bible to validate islam or quran.

If christians claim they don't believe in the quran,then at least you believe in the bible.Then we prove the truth to you from the scripture you follow

,and it's none of your business if I had posted something before...

tintingz: so what will you say about Boko Haram, Al-qaeda etc are they truly muslims that follows the teachings of Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet(sa)

Study Islam and not the muslims! If truly you accept that those crusaders that wore cross during their war are not christians?

also apart from that it has been proving for u several time in these forum that THE REAL INJEEL HAS BEEN LOST.If you didnt believe that, you get a long way to go.

I CAN'T BE FORCED TO BELIEVE A LIE MADE BY YOU!
YOU HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT IT WAS LOST!
IT WAS LOST? IT WAS CORRUPTED? WHICH ONE SHLD WE BELIEVE?
AND YET YOU ARE VALIDATING YOUR QURAN AND MOHAMMED FROM A LOST AND CORRUPTED BIBLE?


This is the right question you suppose to ask your present leader who contantly produce the fresh new version of bible every time.

JUST AS YOU HAVE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE QURAN?

you also to have asked the dead one- AGAIN I DIDNT CLAIM THAT THEY ARE LOST-U DID AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL US ONE NAME OF THOSE JEWS THAT LOST THE BIBLE.

Since bible is the pirated version of Injeel, it is very possible to still see some element of truth originated from injeel which your people forgot to touch
a word of truth like :
(HEAR URSELF NOW)
THOSE THAT SUPPORT MOHAMMED'S LIES? AND THOSE THAT VALIDATE QURAN? OR THOSE THAT DID NOT SUPPORT MOHAMMED'S LIES?

dont fornicate(TELL THAT TO MOHAMMED), dont steal(TELL THAT TO MOHAMMED AND BOKOHARAM),oneness of GOD ET.C(WE ALSO BELIEVE IN THAT TOO)

We can only know the truth word in this your current bible by a reference from the HOLY QURAN.
(YES NOW,THOSE THAT MOHAMMED COPIED RIGHT?)

Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:


see reference from quran:

[b]"Say: He is Allah,(THE REFERENCE ABOVE DIDNT SAY ALLAH,IT SAYS GOD)
"He begets not, nor is He begotten.
(ITS A MISERY THAT MOHAMMED CAN'T UNDERSTAND NOW)

DO YOUR PERSONAL REASEACH ABOUT BIBLE AND U WILL BE CONVINCED THAT U NEED TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.
(I have done that along time ago,i have seen the TRUTH and i am free;you are the one in BONDAGE BUT JESUS CAN SET U FREE)


WE MUSLIM READ OUR QURAN VERY WELL THEN READ BIBLE TO EXPOSE YOU ALL(Or to validate the lies in it and see the lies ur prophet told you).

READ QURAN ALSO AND MAKE SURE YOU DONT QUOTE THEM OUT OF CONTEXT.
(TELL THAT TO BOKOHARAM,ALQUEDA,AND SAUDI OR IRAN ETC)

AbdH: Trinity has to be the most lucrative fraud of all time. Thanks be to Allah, we could have been swept off our feet by such preposterous doctrines as yours. You better seek God and stop confusing yourself and us.

Proffdada: You still don't get it, but i'll help you: you see as humans we tend to judge by the perception of our five senses but the spirit is what discerns beyond these, therefore God exists in three persons as you can analogize as three states of matter but unlike matter each one still exist within transition. I hope this explaination is noy too much for your primitive brain. God was,is and forever is One