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ATMC: @obadiah and most high why do you characterize someone when they see things not d way you do? Smh...evidence dt you haven't come up thither afterall but ye claim to, smh

Point! Point! Point!
...But you claim to-i like this,God bless you real good.
I don't like ppl who force doctrine on someone,you don't impose things on ppl...IT SHOWS THE PERSON LACKS THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

SHALOM

What shall it profit a man who gained the whole world and lost his soul...(no Jesus no life)

Ile aye,aye asan,aye imule-mofo.

Abeeg o,the guy should not die o,who go dey pay us our NYSC state aloowance...chime you shall not die but live(kneeling and praying fearfully)..

obadiah777: LISTEN IF YOU WANT TO STARVE YOURSELF IN FASTING, THATS YOUR PROBLEM. THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD IS THAT FASTING AS PRACTICED BY THE LORD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOD. HE DID NOT GO 40 DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS WITHOUT FOOD. THATS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT

i understand you bt saying Jesus' fasting has nothing to do with food? Capital NO.
And that is what God is talking about,it is you that is saying different thing-and that is YOUR own interpretation NOT God's; DON'T FORCE YOUR INTERPRETATION ON ANYBODY,LET THE SPIRIT OF GOD DO HIS WORK.

No offence though
shalom.

From that day, i don't just read the bible, i tend to look beyond the basic illustration and pray to God to help me unlock the mysteries.

THIS IS MY STAND...THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE INSPIRATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...WE WILL ONLY NEED HIS HELP TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE.
SHALOM

obadiah777: THATS YOUR PROBLEM. YOU ALWAYS LEAP BEFORE YOU LOOK SMDH

no problem,just stop misleading ppl with ur heresy.
And thank God your topic says 'what if you found out...'

shalom

obadiah777: ALL THE VERSES YOU HAVE QUOTED STILL SUPPORTS MY POINT. SO I DONT GET WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. LIKE I SAID, A FAST IS GOING AGAINST WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO. FOR CHRIST, HE NORMALLY TEACHES AND EATS SCRIPTURES. HE STOPPED DOING THAT TO PREPARE FOR TEMPTATION. IF YOU ARE A WICKED PERSON WHO IS ACCUSTOMED TO DOING WICKEDNESS 365 DAYS OF THE YEAR ? A FAST TO YOU WILL BE NOT TO DO WICKEDNESS FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD. SEE IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. YOU STILL NOT MADE ANY POINT YET

This what i am saying-

FASTING MEANS ABSTINENCE. BIBLICAL FASTING MEANS ABSTAINING FROM FOOD AND DRINKS FOR A PERIOD. IT IS AN ACT OF DENYING OURSELVES OF THINGS THAT GIVE US PLEASURE WITH A VIEW OF SUPPRESSING THE FLESH AND UPLIFTING THE SPIRIT.
And when fasting,you pray and wait on God.
(THAT WAS THE CASE OF JESUS).
Hence the scriptures i quotes before.
IF JESUS DID NOT FAST WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE DEVIL TEMPTING HIM,HE KNEW THAT JESUS WILL BE WEAK.
JESUS FASTED AND PRAYED FOR 40DAYS AND NIGHT,IT WAS AFTER THEN HE STARTED HIS MINISTRY.
MATT 4:17
FROM THEN ON JESUS BEGAN TO PREACH,''REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND TURN TO GOD, FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS NEAR.

LUKE RECORDED IN LUKE 4:14
THEN JESUS RETURNED TO GALILEE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT POWER(HIS MINISTRY STARTED AFTER FASTING AND PRAYER-HE WAS FILLED WITH POWER AFTER FASTING,THAT WAS WHY SATAN COULD NOT DEFEAT HIM WHEN HE WAS TEMPTED).
VS 2. WHERE HE WAS TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL FOR FORTY DAYS. JESUS ATE NOTHING ALL THAT TIME AND BECAME VERY HUNGRY.

Goshen360: @ mintayo,

Have you heard of "second class hatred"? That's what you and other Christians do on this forum. You didn't read what Goshen said about fornication by YOURSELF but what SOMEONE ELSE reported to you and you took those words and began to work on it, second class information; just like some Christians don't feed directly by themselves in the word, but whatever their medium (pastors) tell them. Lord help y'all religious people.

i apologize-my apology is based on the fact that i believed what the guy said abt you.
But my post was based on the topic FORNICATION.
I HOPE WHAT HE(PASCAL OR WHATEVR HIS NAME IA) SAID YOU SAID ABT FORNICATION IS WRONG,OTHERWISE I TAKE BACK MY APOLOGY.
CONCERNING THOSE WHO LISTEN OR FULLY SWALLOW WHAT THERE PASTORS SAYS, I AM NOT ONE OF THEM,I LISTEN TO WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS,WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT SAY,I ONLY WAIT FOR A 'PASTOR' TO CONFIRM IT,HOPE YOU GRAB?

NB-I DNT HATE YOU,I CNT HATE YOU,I AM ABOVE THAT...I HAVE DOMINION OVER HATRED OR ANYTHING LIKE IT(I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD)

SHALOM

PLS BRETHEN LET US STUDY THE BIBLE AND LET THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE US.

JONAH 3:5 (NLT)
THE PEOPLE OF NINEVEH BELIEVED GOD'S MESSAGE, AND FROM THE GREATEST TO THE LEAST,THEY DECLARED A FAST AND PUT ON BURLAP TO SHOW SORROW.

Neh 1:4(NLT)
when i heard this, i sat down and wept. Infact,for days i mourned, FASTED, and prayed to the God of heaven.

Esther 4:16
go and gather all the Jews of susa and fast for me. DO NOT EAT OR DRINK FOR THREE DAYS,NIGHT OR DAY. MY MAID AND I WILL DO THE SAME....

ACT 13:2
ONE DAY AS THESE MEN WERE WORSHIPING THE LORD AND FASTING(FASTING AND PRAYERS GO ES HAND IN HAND),THE HOLY SPIRIT SAID,'LDEDICATE BARNABAS AND SAUL...

ACT 9:9
HE REMAINED THERE BLIND FOR THREE DAYS AND DID NOT EAT OR DRINK.
Vs 19. AFTERWARD HE ATE SOME FOOD AND REGAINED HIS STRENGHT.

FASTING MEANS ABSTINENCE. BIBLICAL FASTING MEANS ABSTAINING FROM FOOD AND DRINKS FOR A PERIOD. IT IS AN ACT OF DENYING OURSELVES OF THINGS THAT GIVE US PLEASURE WITH A VIEW OF SUPPRESSING THE FLESH AND UPLIFTING THE SPIRIT(THAT WAS THE CASE OF JESUS).

IF JESUS DID NOT FAST WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE DEVIL TEMPTING HIM,HE KNEW THAT JESUS WILL BE WEAK.
JESUS FASTED AND PRAYED FOR 40DAYS AND NIGHT,IT WAS AFTER THEN HE STARTED HIS MINISTRY.
MATT 4:17
FROM THEN ON JESUS BEGAN TO PREACH,''REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND TURN TO GOD, FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS NEAR.

LUKE RECORDED IN LUKE 4:14
THEN JESUS RETURNED TO GALILEE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT POWER(HIS MINISTRY STARTED AFTER FASTING AND PRAYER-HE WAS FILLED WITH POWER AFTER FASTING,THAT WAS WHY SATAN COULD NOT DEFEAT HIM WHEN HE WAS TEMPTED).
VS 2. WHERE HE WAS TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL FOR FORTY DAYS. JESUS ATE NOTHING ALL THAT TIME AND BECAME VERY HUNGRY.
(READ ALSO MATT 6:16-18)
HE THAT HAS AN EAR LET HIM HEAR...

GOD BLESS US ALL
BROTHER OBADIAH STOP THIS HERESY,YOU ARE INVITING THE JUGDEMENT OF GOD BY LEADING PPL INTO FALSE DOCTRINES-SUBMIT YOURSELF TO GOD AND HIS SON JESUS AND LET THE HOLY SPIRIT LEAD AND GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH.
SHALOM

obadiah777: AM SAYING WHAT FASTING MEANT WHEN THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT FASTING MEANS TODAY. TODAY FASTING IS ASSOCIATED WITH NOT EATING FOOD SIMPLY BECAUSE SOMEONE DIDNT INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES CORRECTLY. ITS MANY BIBLICAL WORDS THAT DONT MEAN WHAT THEY MEAN TODAY WHEN THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN

you are saying heresy,you are talking like the mohammedans-
who gave you ur own interpretation,u interprete to suit urself and ur false doctrines...
So you mean the Word of God changes,that it has been altered,that...ahaah...i weep for you and all those that are following you...
Rev 22:18
...

Mintayo: what is fornication?
Fornication is any Sexual INTERCOURSE OUTSIDE MARRIAGE...meaning that if i have sex with a prostitute,i have fornicated contrary to what goshen or obadiah said.
Now lets check what the Word of God says about Fornication.
1 Cor 6: 12-19. (NLT).
12. You say, '' i am allowed to do anything''-but not everything is good for you.And even though ''I am allowed to do anything,'' I must not become a slave to anything.
13....But you cant say that our bodies were made for sexual IMMORALITY. They were made for the Lord...
Lets go to 18.
18. Run from sexual sin(fornication)! No other sin cleraly affects the body as this one does....

Eph 5:3
3. Let there be no sexual IMMORALITY, IMPURITY, OR GREED AMONG YOU. SUCH SINS HAVE NO PLACE AMONG GOD'S PEOPLE.
VS 5. YOU CAN BE SURE THAT NO IMMORAL,IMPURE OR GREEDY PERSON WILL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND GOD...
6.DON'T BE FOOLED BY THOSE WHO TRY TO EXCUSE THESE SINS,FOR THE ANGER OF GOD WILL FALL ONALL WHO DISOBEY HIM.

HE THAT HAS AN EAR LET HIM HERE.
STAY WITH THE BIBLE NOT WITH THESE FALSE TEACHERS.

THE FACT THAT FORNICATION IS A COMMON PRACTICE DOES NOT MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE TO GOD.

GOD BLESS US AL

please who or what is changing the 'Se-xu-al' i wrote up there to intimate?
I didnt write intimate,i wrote 's-e-x-u-a-l immorality'.
Now i understand.

Paschal007: I love nairaland's religion section.

Goshen360: Sex between 2 unmarried adults (fornication) is not sin.

what is fornication?
Fornication is any Sexual INTERCOURSE OUTSIDE MARRIAGE...meaning that if i have sex with a prostitute,i have fornicated contrary to what goshen or obadiah said.
Now lets check what the Word of God says about Fornication.
1 Cor 6: 12-19. (NLT).
12. You say, '' i am allowed to do anything''-but not everything is good for you.And even though ''I am allowed to do anything,'' I must not become a slave to anything.
13....But you cant say that our bodies were made for sexual IMMORALITY. They were made for the Lord...
Lets go to 18.
18. Run from sexual sin(fornication)! No other sin cleraly affects the body as this one does....

Eph 5:3
3. Let there be no sexual IMMORALITY, IMPURITY, OR GREED AMONG YOU. SUCH SINS HAVE NO PLACE AMONG GOD'S PEOPLE.
VS 5. YOU CAN BE SURE THAT NO IMMORAL,IMPURE OR GREEDY PERSON WILL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND GOD...
6.DON'T BE FOOLED BY THOSE WHO TRY TO EXCUSE THESE SINS,FOR THE ANGER OF GOD WILL FALL ONALL WHO DISOBEY HIM.

HE THAT HAS AN EAR LET HIM HERE.
STAY WITH THE BIBLE NOT WITH THESE FALSE TEACHERS.

THE FACT THAT FORNICATION IS A COMMON PRACTICE DOES NOT MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE TO GOD.

GOD BLESS US AL

Paschal007: I love nairaland's religion section.

Goshen360: Sex between 2 unmarried adults (fornication) is not sin.

it is always good for someone to stay with the Bible and let the Holy Spirit minister to you.

Both goshen and obadiah lack the Spirit of God in them,they need to sit down with God and ask for His Spirit. Christainity is not a religion,christainity is A WAY of LIFE(CHRIST).
So ppl shld only listen to God via His Spirit instead of so many false teaching and teachers we have today...end time is here indeed.

obadiah777: MATTHEW 4 VS 2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred AND AFTER RESTING AND MEDITATING IN THE WILDERNESS FOR 4O DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS HE WAS EAGER TO GET BACK TO WORK. EAGER = HUNGRED

are you saying that fasting doesn't neccessary mean bein without food?
That one can eat during fasting as long as one is not doing what one normally does?

You have come again with your doctrine of demons and according to Jesus,it will take fasting and prayers to cast out such demons(deceiving) from you...
...and this things can not happen except by fasting and prayers!
Guys stop this your heresy...go back to God and accept Jesus into your life as your lord and personal saviour.

God bless you.

MostHigh: Hey Mintayo

capitalism is the explotaion of the less privilaged by the wealthy pls confirm in your dictionary

Ajnd because you were brought up as a capitalist and think as one does not make capitalism ok.

Also note that we are talking of vulgar wealth the type that most pastors worldwide have 4 jets and currencies in all denominations, including palaces unheard of while the massess suffer

the same masses are just watching like hungry birds waiting for thier time to strike

and history has taught us that strike they will

so better do away with all your excess baggage you hear me.

the contstant and agresssive aquisition of enormouse wealth goes contrary to the bible

you cannot serve God and mammon either you love one and hate the other.

well you guys can decide to be poor...that is your own.
I know what you are saying,all these pastors(not that i support them)that you are talking about-do you knw the source of thre wealth,don't conclude that they are exploiting anybody-their judgement is not in your hand!
Am not talking abt serving God and mammon,i am talking about wealth from God-He is so concern abt us being rich,as long as it doesn't become a god over you,and as long as u are nt covetuous...
Solomon was blessed by God-he was wealthy materially,even in wisdom;he was carried away by lust of the eyes,flesh and he allowed himself to be carried away from God(note that He allowed it and was carried away).
Pls stop this heresy pls.

God bless us all.

MostHigh: God will not bless you with vulgar wealth knowing the heart of man and its weakness for carnal things.

But he can bless you with health and strenght and lenght of days which is another kind of wealth eintrly

carry on supporting the agresive aquisition of mammon as a true sign of Gods blessing

soon we shall know he truth.

And solomons end is a confirmation of this

what about the end of Abraham,what abt the end of Jacob,Isaac and even Joeseph- read your Bible very well;God blessed them in all dimension,you ppl shld stop this false teachings- wealth is not from Satan,our God is a God of prosperity...He said He will bless our bread and water...He does not have issues with our being rich,He only have issues with being COVETOUS!
STOP THIS HERESY.

Mintayo: this obadiah of a guy,this guy is missing it and i pity those that are following him or accepting whatever He is saying...God was never the author of poverty-poverty is from satan-he is making it sound as if you will go to hell if u are rich(that is a lie; you can be poor and end up in hell,same goes for riches)
your going to heaven to is nt determine whether you are rich or poor bt rather your accepatnce of God's offer of salvation-JESUS CHRIST.
Please ppl shld be mindful of this guy,he is speaking heresy-he does have the HOLY SPIRIT in him-HE is a false teacher,
he has forgotten how God blessed Abraham,also Isaac, Jacob and even Joseph...God does not want us to be poor-He wants us to be rich,aside salvation Jesus came to deliver us from poverty,sickness(i am sure he will say God wants us to be sick too),and infirmity-

The bible talk abt JESUS- though He was rich,yet he became poor,so that through His poverty,we will become rich.
The Bible also say in the book of colossians that...in Jesus we have all hidden treasures...(paraphased).

So if you have Jesus,you have all riches of the kingdom-God is never a God of poverty but of riches...PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO OBADIAH HERESY.

God bless us all.

at my post- I MEAN HE(obadiah) DOES NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIM.

God does not HAVE PROBLEM WITH OUR BEING RICH,HE ONLY HAVE PROBLEM WITH OUR BEING ''COVETOUS''(Covetuousness is the major issue not riches)

Shalom.

dougivilla: Heretic obadiah777 listen! Our God is not a poor God. He is the Holiest and He is the wealthiest!!! He created everything, including wealth, gold and silver. Why would the all wise God create wealth and hand it over to the Devil? The streets of heaven are made of Gold! Has even the richest in the world tried it? Is gold for the poor? No! Were we not created in the image and likeness of God? We were!,to be holy and wealthy!

John 6:5 and Jesus said to Philip, whence shall we get bread to feed this multitude? Note the word whence. Its not about how to get money, the money was already available. You think that having enough money to feed 5,000 men (excluding women and children, that are usually more in numbers at such gatherings) even with agege bread is what a poor man can try?

When Jesus was on earth he travelled by Ship or even yatch across towns, cities and countries ..... (and Jesus was asleep on a pillow, while the storm ranged..... it could'nt have been a boat or canoe). Ship by any standard can't be for the poor.

Lets assume the ship were either hired or borrowed; why would the same Jesus that obadiah777 claims hates wealth now go and hire or borrow from the wealthy that He so detests?

3John2 I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospers

Deut 8:18 And thou shall remember the Lord thy God, for it is He that giveth thee power to get wealth!

Honour and riches, shall be in the house of the righteous. Is it in your own bible?

Psalm 1:1-3 summarises the fact that Holiness is a major requirement for genuine and God given wealth! Verse 3 reads: and WHATSOEVER HE (that works not in the consel of the ungodlly but is righteous) DOETH SHALL PROSPER!

Joshua1:8 .......thou shall meditate on the word, observe to do what you read (live righteously), then you will make your ways prosperous and you, yes you the righteous will have good success!

I'm still coming with about 20 scriptures on this!

Son, I really envy your deftness in misrepresenting and misinterpreting scriptures, whoever groomed you really tried, but i'm not fooled!.

The other issue with your style of argument is that you choose which bible verses you take at face value i.e literarily and which ones you give deeper or mystical and satanic interpretations! That is another name for double standards!!!

pls note that the highest height of f..oo.lishness is assuming that you, a mortal man can know everything thats to be known about God and His word. With all Apostle Paul knew, he still prayed: 'that I may know Him and .......'. Obadiah777 your head is too small to comprehend the totality of God. Stop allowing philosophers, historians, diviners and false teachers deceive you, you can't know it all, you just can't!!! The difference between what we know and what God knows is what makes Him God. Even Jesus does not know the hour of His coming!

this obadiah of a guy,this guy is missing it and i pity those that are following him or accepting whatever He is saying...God was never the author of poverty-poverty is from satan-he is making it sound as if you will go to hell if u are rich(that is a lie; you can be poor and end up in hell,same goes for riches)
your going to heaven to is nt determine whether you are rich or poor bt rather your accepatnce of God's offer of salvation-JESUS CHRIST.
Please ppl shld be mindful of this guy,he is speaking heresy-he does have the HOLY SPIRIT in him-HE is a false teacher,
he has forgotten how God blessed Abraham,also Isaac, Jacob and even Joseph...God does not want us to be poor-He wants us to be rich,aside salvation Jesus came to deliver us from poverty,sickness(i am sure he will say God wants us to be sick too),and infirmity-

The bible talk abt JESUS- though He was rich,yet he became poor,so that through His poverty,we will become rich.
The Bible also say in the book of colossians that...in Jesus we have all hidden treasures...(paraphased).

So if you have Jesus,you have all riches of the kingdom-God is never a God of poverty but of riches...PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO OBADIAH HERESY.

God bless us all.

nep2ra: Question: Who goes to hell?

Hell is prepared for the devil and his demons- but it is so unfortunate men have decided to submit to devil and follow him-

Jesus came to get us back from the Devil(and wash us clean from our sinful nature which we inherited from adam) and until we submit our self to Jesus and accept Him as our Lord and saviour,we will end up in hell; all wicked people will end up in hell if they don't change and accept God's offer of salvation-JESUS.
(no way forward after death)
Gal 5:19-21.

God bless us all.

Modesty is the word...anything you do that makes your brother of fellow men to stumble and fall is sin.
Again what is the motive behind your indecent dressing-what do you think about before leaving home?
Those saying that god looks at the heart,true,He does but is it possible to dress indecently from home without thinking about it?
The End is near...the Lord knows those that are His...

God bless us all.

salt 1: She TOLD me. She's still alive and has been sharing her experiences. Her testimony is even on Nairaland. The thread is called "Let the saints get ready". She's not alone. Another woman of Anglican background has also had similar experience where Jesus was condemning the worldliness entering His church.
Heaven is a holy place. You can't just believe what you like, act how you like, dress how you like and still hope to go and live eternally with an orderly(not lawless) holy God.

You re right there...God is holy.

Omo_Tier1: In your mind, you really think Jesus when He appears, a human flesh will be something to reckon with in His presence? Let me say this: No man or woman will go to Hell because of what He or She wears. Rather, any man who has refused to accept Jesus as His Lord and Saviour, such will be cast aside into the abyss.

Whilst modest dressing is to be encourage, lets not make religion out of it. For man looks at the outside, God sees and works with the inside. Clearly Jesus said: It is not worth enters a man that corrupts Him but what comes out of Him - Think what this really means.

yea,you are right,but if what you wear causes others to sin- or lead them astray-HELL STRAIGHT!

Please if you are attending a church that does not believe in HELL,please RUN, HELL is REAL,HEAVEN is REAL; even the devil(demons) believe there is Hell.
So bad so many churches don't talk abt it this days...
How will there be heaven and there won't be hell,don't be decieved.
The Bible declares in certain terms that ther is HELL;there are 162 texts in the NT alone that speak of the doom that awaits the unrepentant sinners;the Lord Himself uttered 70 of them. The Bible makes it clear all wicked ppl that Reject Jesus will be turned into hell.(Ps 9:17).
WHAT IS HELL?
Hell is a place of torment and purnishments,(Lk 16:23); it is abarnishment from d presence of God(2 thess. 1:9).
WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF HELL?
Hell was originally prepared for THE DEVIL AND HIS WICKED ANGELS according to
(Matt 25:41)-'' And the king will turn to those on the left and say,' Away with you, you cursed ones,into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons...

Hell was NEVER INTENDED FOR MAN but if men insist on rejecting heaven through the Saviour Jesus Christ,then they must accompany satan forever.
WHAT IS HELL LIKE?
IT IS APLACE OF PURNISHMENTS, a sort of prison where the wicked ar purnished forever(Matt 25:46); a torment of unquenchable thirst,of suffering and agony at its worst(Lk 16:23). A place of fire,fire so hot even angels who go there will continually cry in pain despite there strength;the will be so much that the devil will call JESUS ''Lord'' when the pains bcome unbearable for him.(Isaiah 33:14, Rev 20:15, Matt 13:42-50). It is a place of supernatural worms because the worm there don't die(Mark 9:44-48). The worst part of it is that those who go there will recognise themselves just as in heaven(Lk 16:23), they will even pray but there prayers will not be answered-NO MORE GRACE,(Lk 16:27).the torment is everlasting because the Bible says that both HEAVEN AND HELL IS EVRLASTING.(GOD SAYS SO).
PLEASE NOTE.
1. SALVATION IS LIMITED TO THIS LIFE(EARTH). NO REPENTANCE ONCE YOU DIE OR IN GRAVE(LK 16:24-27).
2. HELL IS DIFFERENT FROM GRAVE,(PLS DON'T BE DECIVED)-REMEMBER THE STORY OF LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN?
ALSO- HEBREW 9:27.

CONCLUSION
HOW DOES ONE GO TO HELL? SIMPLY BY NEGLECTING THE SALVATION PURCHASED FOR US BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS.
(HEBREWS 2:3)
3. So what makes us think we can ignore this great salvation that was first announced to us by the Lord Jesus Himself and then delivered to us by those who heard him speak? (NLT).

HOW DOES ONE AVOID HELL?-BY RECIEVEING AND ACCEPTING JESUS AS ONE'S LORD AND SAVIOUR,NO MORE NO LESS(John 3:16, Prov 15: 24).
WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE?

GOD BLESS US ALL.

sammie-d:
Jesus never gave anyone the assignment to preach hell...His commission was ; Preach that the kingdom of God has come..heal the sick...cast out demons...raise the dead..cleanse the lepers..freely you have received...freely give...
The cure for darkness is light...HEAVEN IS THE FOCUS not hell...so y preach hell? and not HEAVEN!!

and what happens to those that do not accept the message?

alexis: You threw a question out there and didn't address me. Remember, we had an agreement. Please ask the question so I can answer. Thanks

i will still insist that you don't answer him...he will just be picking a part of the Bible(possibly shown to him by his imam) and twist them,that is what he knows best...he will just be arguing further,that is what he knows best!

alexis: Dude - why should I explain the text you quoted from the Bible when you have totally mis-represented it. Also, how did the Bible get into this discussion. Isn't the thread about Islam and women and how they are treated. I didn't school in Nigeria so I didn't pass WAEC but I was taught that you should stick to the theme and topic when talking.

Omo, there are some of us that has STUDIED the Quran and Hadith since we were kids and we know it. I will challenge you to prove your points with EVIDENCE OH

please don't argue with the guy,He is very good in twisting the Bible- and i guess he loves the Bible so much that he has been reading it to find faults. And again derailing from threads is his hubby(i am not surprised).
@ayeni,leave the Bible and focus on the topic-comparing Bible and quran? Mba,kowole...

ayenny02: You said what I qouted was out of context, why not use ur own point to buttress my proof.
So u went to bible school for good solid 18yrs and u don't see all what I proof for u abi?. If u don't see it, I will proof another one for u maybe ur eyes will open, I don't know maybe u people don't read ur book constantly. HERE BELOW ARE MY PROOF TO CALL UR BIBLE UNHOLY:

ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

1a). 2 Samuel 24:1
24 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1b). 1 Chronicles 21:1
21 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

QUESTION------( is lord of david then satan)


2a). 2 Samuel 8:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

2b). 1 Chronicles 18:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots.

QUESTION--(seven hundred OR seven thousand)


3a). 2 Samuel 10:18
18 And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there.

3b). 1 Chronicles 19:18
18 But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

QUESTION--(seven hundred chariots OR seven thousand men? Forty thousand horsemen OR footmen? Shobach OR shophach)


4a). 2 Kings 8:26
26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel

4b). 2 Chronicles 22:2
2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

QUESTION---( twenty two OR forty two years)


5a). 2 Kings 24:8
8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

5b). 2 Chronicles 36:9
9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord.

QUESTION---(eighteen yrs OR eight yrs? Three mths OR three mths and ten days)


FROM NEW TESTAMENT

1a). John 5:37
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

1b). John 14:9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


2a). John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

2b). John 8:14
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.


ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

whether the Bible is corrupt or not(of which it is not; whether i understand it all or not- one thing i know...Jesus is Lord and He is REAL AND THE BIBLE IS REAL. (Non of your twisting can change that); i am done with this thread and with you,if you want to talk(with reasoning)open another thread...period.

Jesus loves You.

nwando: This is a nice thread back in the day when a former Muslim and great sister pilgrim1 who caused many a heart attacks for Muslims gave her testimony on nairaland.
This thread caused so many death threats for some us and a few Muslims also gave their lives to Christ glory to God
The Muslims were so angry and even threatened Seun,he had to lock the thread
Many of the Christians there including myself got banned
After this thread,the words Allah and Mohammed could not be used on nairaland for a while
That is how peaceful they are
The auto correct changed Allah to the great one and Mohammed to the great prophet rofl


https://www.nairaland.com/175953/ex-muslim-nairalander-talks-why

wow,nice thread,God bless you, and i was really blessed...i wish such thread can open again esp now...Pls where is the lady now, i mean pilgrim1? You hearing from her?
More of such threads pls...Jesus is Lord.

Interesting...but what is the point of commenting when your post will be hidden...anyway this thread will help,'cus its an eye opener for me:

https://www.nairaland.com/264305/correct-way-beat-wife

black male: WHATTTT!!!!!! Thank you nwando....God bless u real good....

yes,God will bless you indeed...those threads are EYE-OPENeR...lols.

john_tredon: Biko!I can't withstand this o. I rest my case for now

let Him open another thread,he has derailed from the topic.