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IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 10:26pm On May 08, 2013
talk2me006: TO MINTAYO AND CO



[b]SEE THE REAL 101 CONTRADICTION IN BIBLE



1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
Eighteen (2 Kings 24:cool
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
Three months (2 Kings 24:cool
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:cool
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)

12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:cool
Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)

14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)

15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)

16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

17. How many were the children of Zattu?
Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:cool
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

18. How many were the children of Azgad?
One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)

19. How many were the children of Adin?
Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

20. How many were the children of Hashum?
Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)

21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)

22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
29,818 (Ezra)
31,089 (Nehemiah)

23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?
Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)

24. What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?
Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)

25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
No (Joshua 15:63)[/b]

full text here: http://sunnahonline.com/ilm/dawah/0009.htm




EXPLAIN THOSE CONTRADICTIONS ABOVE?


grin
u have posted it before too...i know u have a lot of them with u...lols.
You people love the Bible so much that i wonder whether u read ur quran at all. May be u shld read this and see what your muslim brothers have to say about islam:


http://www.faithfreedom.org/
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 10:21pm On May 08, 2013
talk2me006: mr bolean !
dont vess now!
show us where jesus explain trinity with bolean?

read this:
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:


MY ANALYSIS

From the above verse,did jesus confuse diciples with bolean to explain oneness of GOD?

read this also:

"Say: He is Allah,

The One and Only.

"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.

"He begets not, nor is He begotten.

And there is none like unto Him."

[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4].


MY ANALYSIS

From the above verse, no confusion , no bolean grin

CONCLUSION

FROM THE FACT ABOVE , I CAN CONCLUSIVELY SAY YOU REALY NEED INTERVENTION.
YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CANT USE UR BRAIN TO REASON PERFECTLY AGAIN.
shocked

shocked shocked shocked shocked
lols,u have posted this before and i have answerd you appropriately...i bet u have bookmarked it on ur phone!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:20pm On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: You can also see his ignorance again,all the points he(mintayo) raised are very easy for us to refute,but I see no essence in replying him because he will never understand.Brother tintingz and brother talketome,should we leave him to wander blindly in his error or replied to his questions? But he's a cocoon,he will never comprehend a damn thing,a kindergaten child's IQ is higher than his,I don't know how he uses his brain.....Peace brothers
hey dude,why d abuse? I bet the truth is bitter and it is biting too; i am actually expecting a reply,but nothing you say whatsoever wil change FACTs...FACT WILL STILL REMAIN FACT!
No matter how much u try,u can't hide d truth...the TRUTH always prevails!

Shalom.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 5:56pm On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: You are looking for the lost injeel ...Peace
don't be confused dear and as Alexis has said,history is against u ppl.
A. THE QURAN IS ORIGINAL AND HAS NEVER BEEN CHANGED?
The quran itsel admits to cancellations and changes,in Q 2:106, 16:101,22:52 says that satan propose some quranic sura.
The quran was fabricated 100 of yrs after mohammed. None of the author of hadiths of mohammed ever saw or met him-Sahih Bukhari died in 870 A.D (Bukhari vol 6:385),238 yrs after mohammed was poisoned.

IN CONTRAST, the author of Jesus ate,drank and slept,walked,talked,prayed and preached with him!

B. ADAM,NOAH,ABRAHAM,ISAAC,JACOB are muslims and islamic prophets?
But the quran says in 22:52, " never did we send a message or a prophet bfore you(mohammed)". So who is lying? ALLAH OR THE QURAN OR BOTH? HOW DID THEY BECOME MUSLIM WITHOUT THE QURAN? SO IS ALLAH SAYIN WITHOUT MOHAMMMED/QURAN,ONE CAN BE A MUSLIM? if that is so,what is the use of Mohammed and the quran? Ridiculous?

C. THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS IN THE QURAN?
Sura 2:117- allah confirms he created the heaven and d earth instanteneously.
Sura 41:9-12-allah said he created the heaven and d earth in TWO days.
Sura 7:54, 10:3,11:7 and 25:59-allah said it took SIX days.
Sura 41:9-12- allah describe his creation of heavens and earth in EIGHT days(2+4+2) days.
If allah can give his ppl such an inaccurate info,what shall we say about him? About his book? How cld he b so wrong? Isnt he god?
Well contradictions in quran is so long(abt 256 pages).
Another contradiction in sura 2:266,'' Thus allah maketh plain his revelations unto u inorder that ye may give thought''.
Sura 3:7- "None knoweth its explainations save allah".
(the question is- are revelation in quran plain for muslim to understand or does only allah know the explanations to understand them?). Which sura is correct? Which is wrong? Am sure the two cannot be correct,can they?THIS IS A CONTRADICTION,is allah not a godhuh

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THEY SAY WHAT WAS REVEALED TO ABRAM,ISMAEL,ISAAC,JACOB,THE TRIBES,MOSES AND JESUS ARE IN THE QURANhuh
Surah 2:136-allah confirmed that he revealed the christain scriptures(the corrupted or the original?)to them and it is in the quran("revealed unto us"-muslim).
Revealed to ishmael-where? What? Moses in the Bible(exodus,leviticus,numbers and deuteronomy) is 137 chapters and 4415 verses(against the quran's 114 chapters and 6241 verses-This alone take takes up the entire quran) Jacob alone is anothe 25 chapters,let alone Abraham,isaac,d jewish tribe and Jesus. The question is-how can one accommodate all this in the quran?which does not account for 25% of the Bible? Is allah lying?
What happened to the scriptures given to Jesus?(he didn't hold or have any). What did Jesus do with them? Who did he hand it over to?(bcus He didnt hand it over to anybody). Did Jesus throw it away? Bcus there is nothing like that in the quran or Bible!
If allah gave Jesus scriptures, then what happend to them? Where is it? It is a mystery!
This mystery draws weird bcus these scriptures given to Jesus and even the four gospels are not in the quran(makin a few reference here and there in the quran are not gospels)...are we to say allah is lying or the quran is lying?

E. QURAN IS A WONDERFUL MASTERPIECEhuh
The chapters of the quran are not arrange in IMPORTANCE,CONTINUITY,BIOGRAPHY,CHRONOLOGY,SIGNIFICANCE OR SEQUENCE of any sort, but arranged by length,d longest chapter 1st and d last chapter with jus 6 lines. Verses r disorderly arranged and jumbled up in unrelated subjects/topics. NO PROPHECY,NO GEOGRAPHY NO BIOGRAPHY(not even mohammed,thanks to hadiths),NO MINISTRY,NO PARABLE,NO MIRACLES,NO HISTORY,NO PSALMS ETC. (I Guess mohammed was in a hurry to copy the Bible)-just do's and don't-with primitive punishments,retaliations plenty and reward specified.

F. THE QURAN EXPLAINS AND CONFIRM THE BIBLE-LIE-(i guess with all d above,we knw it is nt true).
Christains do not need d quran to confirm anything for them,as they knw,the Bible is the 'WORD OF THE LORD', And who ever copy the Bible is cursed by the one true GOD(Rev 22:18-19).

With all this,i think the attack on the Bible,christains and Jesus is UNDERSTANDABLE!

SHALOM.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 2:31pm On May 08, 2013
[quote author=talk2me006]ok fine ! let first agree that the current bible u hold has been corrupted.let now move to ur second question where is lost injeel?


You have not answered the question-you are still confused-let me add to the question-WHEN?


For lost injeel,we need to ask the early followers of jesus(pbuh); how it was hijacked by many corrupted and fake follower of jesus.

You are still confused my dear!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 2:23pm On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: Brothers,no matter the proof you provided for alexis and co they will never accept it because their hearts are sealed up for the truth.

What is the truth? Quran?


ALLAH said the quran is a judge between truth and falsehood of the old scriptures.

Well,thank God you said allah!what is the quran judging?that allah gave the jews the scriptures;and they lost it?he also asked the muslims to follow the scriptures he gave the jews? And he now provide quran to replace the lost scriptures? Which now contradicts the scriptures he gave-what kinda of a god will do that?i throwey salute for this allah o.


The people of the injeel during the time of prophet muhammed(pbuh)should be judged according to their scripture.Are you among the people of the injeel? Injeel doesn't mean bible.The Quran is the criterion in judging between the truth in the old scriptures and falsehood.I think we provided many proofs for you to tell you the much part of the injeel is lost.

And u av not answer the questions we ask u-the part the scripture u r using to validate quran n the prophet: are those part the lost copy or the original scriptures? How can u b validating quran with a lost or corrupt?


That's why I keep saying if we muslims find somethings in the the present bible that's in line with the quran,we accept and if it contradicts,we decline-


can u c the hypocrisy in that statements-pls hear urself-the part of the present bible that speak for quran is the original(now it is found),while the ones(like isaiah and co and the epistles of Jesus' disciples and apostles) that contradicts the quran is the fake(d ones thrown away by the jews)? Can u c the HYPOCRISY in your words? Can you see the ERROR U V COMMITTED? And you expect me to accept what u are saying?


I pray this answers your question...

YES ACTUALLY-ur last statemet just explained that.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Nairalands New Rules And Regulations, Your Take? by Mintayo(m): 1:54pm On May 08, 2013
pendusky: When NL wasnt popular then, ther was a kind of begging to be on the site (was younger then) Seun did 80% of the posting and 30% of comment... Most of NL pioneers wer muslim...They wer active and they wer promoted to be a MOD by seun, when the issues of
religion arises in NL, they threaten to leave NL except seun creat Muslim board exclusive for Islam. Seun is NL CE0 bt hes not the one managing it...I am stil watching NL SEASON 7. its hight time I deactivate my account here.
I think NL will soon go back to that era...

he should just b careful so that 'those' guys will not 'knack him akpako' and take over his NL.
(talking from experience)
Nairaland GeneralRe: Nairalands New Rules And Regulations, Your Take? by Mintayo(m): 1:31pm On May 08, 2013
naptu2: I doubt that the insults will bother him. He has seen it all before. This is just another chapter in a long running story.

There was once a time when Seun was the sole mod. People kept breaking the rules and Seun couldn't enforce them. Things got so bad that he had to shut the site down for a day or so. Then Muki volunteered to moderate the site.

There was almost a riot when Seun introduced the word filter (again people threatened to leave the site).

People threatened to leave when Seun banned some popular stock market analysts.

Someone even created a website with a similar name (I won't mention the name, because I don't want to get banned).

There was the 2007 civil war (Diaspora vs Home).

There was the rebellion when Seun threatened to ban the use of the words "Islam" and "muslim" on nairaland.

There were the "get rich quick", multi-level marketing and wonderbank scams (Seun even had to create a thread to warn people about them).

There was the garri rebellion.

Nairaland has survived all of them and will survive this one.

Seun has to enforce rules to ensure that there's order and because he is the only publicly known member of the forum.
honestly there is nothing wrong in setting a rule-but when they favour some group and do not favour another-then it is no longer a RULE!
It is 'favouritism'-that is being BIAS!

I am sorry to say this-if all these do not bother him-then NL is not worth staying or visiting-if u are a leader-u have to listen to people's opinion!
Its shows that he doesn't have the interest of NLanders as long as he is making money!

Smh
Nairaland GeneralRe: Nairalands New Rules And Regulations, Your Take? by Mintayo(m): 11:20am On May 08, 2013
naptu2: Reasons for rule 17
Please let the same thing be done to the christain forum...

"Don't post anything that could be considered offensive to christains especially in the christain forum.''

this is not okay-have you been to the christain forum and c what 'pple' post there too?

So ppl can post offensive things in the christain forum? I SEE.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 11:04am On May 08, 2013
alexis: Can you provide a reference or a COPY of the LOST Bible/Injeel please. You have said many times the Bible is Corrupt, that is not new. All you are doing is copying and pasting. Please provide a link to the LOST Injeel if you can. That is the only way you can CONFIRM if the present BIBLE is corrupt.

THE VERY SAME QURAN SAID THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD/MUST JUDGE BY THE GOSPEL - Surah 5:47. That is everything a Christian does should be done using the Bible.

Now, muslims say - the Bible is corrupt - We ask them if it is, where is the original version or the lost version. NO MUSLIM ALIVE OR DEAD can give anyone the LOST Bible. So, we ask them - how can you claim something is corrupt when you can't back it up with the original version. They responded - not all part of the corrupt bible is corrupt. Anything in the corrupt bible that agrees with Islam and the Quran is the part that is not corrupt.

We find that hard to believe because if a fruit is rotten/bad/corrupt - you can't eat parts of it - the whole fruit is bad. So muslims are going around in circles when you can't provide authoritative proof that Christian Bible is corrupt. We ask that muslims obey Allah in Surah 5:47

[size=15pt]Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein[/size]. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

We are asking muslims to obey Allah
abi now... But they just continue move about i.e roam in a circle...saying the same thing over and over again!
D bible is corrupt(and the quran says it is not,and it later says the jew threw it away, and later say allah gave it to themwinkplease when did they throw it away,was it when allah gave it to them?) yet you continue to quote from it to validate urs-what is that?


Shalom.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:43am On May 08, 2013
alexis: I think that would be a good approach. However, no amount of scholarship proof on my side would allow you see otherwise. Let me offer a suggestion - a prominent muslim scholar debated a prominent Christian doctor on this VERY topic. Would you like to review the findings. It is safe to say that both scholars are more versed than both of us - right?
you are right,they will not c otherwise...wait a minute,which Bible do u wana analyse?the 'original' or the 'lost'@laxtran?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:39am On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: Mr 'copy and paste',point out one of my posts where I contradicted the quran or called ALLAH a liar(nausoubillah)if you are truthful.I took my time to explain all the verses you raised about JIHAD,but I don't think you even read it at all,even if you read you can't comprehend it because your brain is working anti-Clockwisely...Peace
i dnt think i need ur message-send it to the boko-haram-bcus they are d one that can convince us about ur jihad story-they are d true follower of islam and mohammed.
Send ur message to them in afganistan,iran,iraq,malaysia,saudi-arabia-they need them gannn...they are the ones telling us what jihad means,they are the ones preaching the quran not YOU!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:32am On May 08, 2013
alexis: Most muslims don't like us to talk about the raids that Mohammed engineered and took part in. But can muslims deny history.

The caravans of Mecca passed by Medina on their way to and from Damascus, full of merchandise and goods. Mohammed and his followers (muslims) would set an ambush for them, quickly robbing and killing the merchants. It is regrettable that the first job Mohammed, the spiritual leader of Islam had in Medina was robbing caravans and killing merchants.

Yet NL muslims want us to believe that whenever Mohammed fought, he was defending himself - WE KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE HISTORY SAYS OTHERWISE.

Mohammed first raid was known as the raid of Al-Iwa', where he assaulted a camel caravan that belonged to some Quraishis (Reference = See the Life of the Messenger by Imam Muhammed bin Abd Al-Wahab, page 85)

The 2nd raid was known as Bawat, where he assaulted a caravan from Mecca led by Umia bin Khalaf, which he succeeded in robbing

In the 3rd raid, know as Al-Ashira, a caravan going to Damascus was assaulted by Mohammed and his followers
with the intent to rob it only but ended up killing 5 of it's men during the robbery.

HOW CAN A PROPHET OF GOD BE ENGAGED IN ARMED ROBBERY AND MURDER?. Does that sound different from Boko Haram or Ansaru?

These are just few examples Oh
and they are comparing him with JESUS CHRIST-i laugh...even Jesus disciples are better than that... A prophet who doesn't knw where he will end up-whether heaven or hell...i am even short of words...
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:26am On May 08, 2013
alexis: Asking question with another question. Not answering the question, evading it and re-affirming the VIOLENCE in Islam. Can you tell us which Crusaders are in Northern Nigeria please. While at it - can you answer the question please smiley

Here is the question again - [size=15pt]Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size]
that is what they know how To do best;they point fingers bt decided to close their eyes to their own contradictions and lies-they c christainity as a threat to their religion,therefore they do everything to bring christainity down-but it won't work-so many ppl have tried it and THEY FAIL!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:55am On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: Brother,nobody is using the quran to judge the bible,ALLAH(swt)has given us the final instruction manual(quran),a guide for the whole of mankind.We don't need the bible,it's because you christians don't wanna believe in the quran,then at least you believed the bible.Then we prove to you from the book you believed in.

Brother,muhammed(pbuh)was an unlettered man,can't read nor write.But it's a miracle,a revelation being delivered to an illiterate.See your ignorance now,your bible even confirmed muhammed(pbuh)being an illiterate.
Book of Isaiah 29;12-''and the Book is delivered to HIM that's not learned,saying read this,i pray thee and HE said I am not learned''.
Which book is being referred to? The glorious quran,who's the unlearned? Prophet muhammed(pbuh).When the first revelation came to muhammed(pbuh)in cave hira,angel told him read,read and HE replied I am not learned.
Hope that answers your questions....Peace
lol @ Isaiah,using the lost 'isaiah' to validate Mohammed...good one bro...thank God u have seen the 'lost' part of the bible.
Now let me ask u d same question alexis ask u- the verse u quote up there;is that the original bible or corrupt one?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:51am On May 08, 2013
tintingz: The True Meaning of "Jihad"

Jihad is usually associated with Islam and Muslims, but in fact, the concept of Jihad is found in all religions including Christianity, Judaism and political/economic ideologies, such as, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, etc. Islam defines Jihad as striving and struggling for improvement as well as fighting back to defend one's self, honor, assets and homeland.

Also, Jihad is interpreted as the struggle against evil, internal or external of a person or a society. Jihad, in Islam, means doing any or all but not limited to the following: Learn, teach, and practice Islam in all aspects of one's life at all times to reach the highest and best education in order to benefit oneself, family and society.
Be a messenger of Islam everywhere, in every behavior and action. Fight evil, wrongdoing, and injustice with all one's power by one's hand (action), with one's tongue (speech), or at least with one's heart (prayer).

Respond to the call for Jihad with money, effort, wisdom and life; yet, never fight a Muslim brother, a Muslim country, or a non-Muslim society that respects its treaties and harbors no aggressive designs against Islam or Muslims. Suicide under any pretext is not condoned as Jihad in Islam. Converting people to Islam by force or coercion is never Jihad but a crime, punishable by law.

The concept of Muslim men rushing out to kill themselves to get "70 dancing virgins" in Paradise, is really quite silly. The fact of the matter is, the "companions of Paradise" are mentioned as being pure and so much above anything we might imagine on earth, so as to indicate to us they are perpetually "virgin" and are not "touched" by men or devils. The words "perpetual virgin" even in English, should give anyone the understanding these are not such as we have known on earth. There can be no mistaking the meaning in the Arabic language as to the purity and innocence of these companions.

The Levels of Jihad A personal struggle within one's self to submit to Allah, fight evil within one's self, achieve higher moral and educational standards - Inner Jihad.

Jihad against evil, injustice and oppression within one's self, family and society - Social Jihad.

Jihad against all that prevents Muslims from servitude to God (Allah), people from knowing Islam, defense of a Muslim society (country), retribution against tyranny, and/or when a Muslim is removed from their homeland by force - Physical Jihad or an armed struggle.

The Quran defines physical Jihad as being the highest level of Jihad that one can undertake. Its reward is eternal Paradise.

Muslims also know that all humans are accountable for what they have done during their life on this earth. Muslims will be asked about what they did with their lives and their level of submission to Allah on the Day of Judgment.
so jihad is found in christainity,budhism,hinduism?? Funny guy...abeg when last did you hear that a budha guy blew up himself in the name of his god?
Continue to decieve urself dear-and continue to contradict ur book and ur god-continue to show that he is not saying the truth sogbo...
Social jihad...no more defensive jihad...laxtran don lie b dt o!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:45am On May 08, 2013
talk2me006: WHICH AMONG your gods of trinity ORDER THOSE TERRORISM IN THOSE BIBLE VERSES I QUOTED FOR U OTHER TIME?

grin
you answer that now,aren't you the teacher here ni-u are the one that say that we have three gods- why we say no we don't-so u shld be able to tell us which of them did that-otherwise you have no point...
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:42am On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: They do,I don't deny but seerah also gives explanations and the reasons why verses were been revealed.It's not a must that every quranic verse has an hadith to back it up,you can't see hadith to back then use seerah....Peace
no more quran,no more hadiths now we have seraah,it is good sha...but sorry friend,i c desperation here;u people are so desperate to validate ur book,that is why u attack the bible like anything,but lik i said,it is good sha...
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:38am On May 08, 2013
lanrexlan: Brother,walah this is one thing I hate about you,the above verses you quoted have been thoroughly explained.Just go back and read the explanations if you want the truth...Peace
i won't stop saying it too,you are contradicting the quran,you are showing that ur god doesn't knw what he was doing-how could he say onething here and say another thing again-i don't mean what i said before-he is not a man now,or is he?
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:36am On May 08, 2013
alexis: I am throwing this question out there to everyone - both Muslims and Christians alike:

[size=20pt]1. Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size]
we all know the truth now-but thy will come and deny their brothers-the ones that follow mohammed teachings and lifestyles but they will NO...this ppl are funny but inwardly,they so happy!
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 6:33am On May 08, 2013
talk2me006: WE CAN ONLY TAKE THE ONE THAT HAVE REFERENCES FROM ONLY QURAN.SINCE THE ORIGINAL COPY(INJEEL) HAS BEEN TAMPERED BY YOUR PEOPLE.

E.G DONT STEAL, DONT FORNICATE, DONT DIE AS A CHRISTIAN ETC grin

THE QUESTION IS..... DOES YOUR BIBLE WHICH U BELIEVE IN SUPPORT TRINITY. IF NO WAT ARE U STILL DOIN IN DAT RELIGION. shocked
i think i understand,you can only take the one that favours Mohammed's ministry but the one that exposes him;the one that shows that he may be lying is Lost,right? That is good of you.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 11:02pm On May 07, 2013
talk2me006: I TOLD YOU !
THEY WILL NEVA SEE IT. grin grin
MINTAYO WELDONE.
TRY AGAIN LATER
A day and night of fighting on the frontier is better than a month of fasting and prayers.
Swords are the keys to paradise.
He who draws his sword in the path of allah has sworn allegiance to allah.
The unbeliever and the one who kills him will never meet in hell.
Allah sent me as a mercy and a portent; he did not send me as a trader or as a cultivator.the worst community on the day of ressurection are the traders and the cultivators except those (of them) who are niggardly with their religion.
GO IN THE NAME OF ALLAH AND IN ALLAH AND IN THE RELIGION OF THE PROPHET OF ALLAH! DON NOT KILL THE VERY OLD,THE INFANT THE CHILD OR THE WOMAN. BRING ALL THE BOOTY(ABOVE MENTIONED),HOLDING BACK NO PART OF IT. MAINTAIN ORDER AND DO GOOD,FOR ALLAH LOVES THOSE WHO DO GOOD.
IF YOU FIND 'the tithe collector', kill him.
Expel the christain and the Jews from the arabian peninsula...

(hadith of kanz Al-Muttaqi, Vol. II, pp 252-286).

What did i do? Those are not my words now!

Shalom.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 10:47pm On May 07, 2013
tintingz: [size=18pt]SLAVERY IS AUTHORIZED IN THE BIBLE BY THE BIBLE GOD!!![/size]

Leviticus 25:44-46
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way".

Exodus 21:2-6
"If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever".

Exodus 21:7-11
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment".


Exodus 21:20-21
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property".

Ephesians 6:5
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ".

1 Timothy 6:1-2
"Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them".

Luke 12:47-48
"The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given."
lool...i have seen this one before,i quess,ayenni gave this to you...good one bro!
Why not help ur helpless brothers instead derailing from ur 'contradictions'.

Shalom.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 10:42pm On May 07, 2013
talk2me006: ONE MORE THING:


[b]Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

"And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "
[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]


MY ANALYSIS

Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

ALEXIS AND CO WHY ARE YOU BRAINWASHING PEOPLE WITH BLOOD OF JESUS?

QUESTION: Does jesus talk about blood here?
please think well.



the commandment said above is belive in oneness of God. not trinity.

[/b]
peace............
looooool...i cnt just help but laugh,it is like you ppl like the Bible so much-you use it to validate the quran and ur prophet and you also condemn it(that is very funny)-so much more for a lost 'injil'...looool.
Concerning those verses,why not read(since you are already a Bible teacher) the whole chapter and hear JESUS response...guy you make me laugh...i wonder what mohammed would have said if he were to be the one in Jesus shoes...(i am jus curious ni o)

shalom.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 10:33pm On May 07, 2013
talk2me006: LOL! grin

boolean ! boolean! grin
i have come across many christians explaining this trinity in many funny ways.boolean again!
it is now glaring that your religion is a confused one

let me correct your notion:

God is One

The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]
let me ask u
now proffada! let me ask u, is there any confusion in the above verse.[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4].

tell me where did u see ur trinity.mr man think very well dont be brainwashed.



see this also from quran:
The Most Concise Definition of God

"Say: He is Allah,

The One and Only.

"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.

"He begets not, nor is He begotten.

And there is none like unto Him."

[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4].


PEACE...........
yes now,we all know that,Allah is one-i am not even disputing that!
And i am sure ur Allah is not equal to the ALMIGHTY GOD OF THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK(JEWS AND CHRISTAINS),because he hates them so much that He said his prophet should kill them;except there is another allah!

And dear, check the previous post,i have given a simple illustration(given to me by a muslim-convert) and definition of the Trinity...so don't derail from what we are saying...bcus i v learnt so much from this thread...LOL

Shalom.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 10:22pm On May 07, 2013
lanrexlan: ,Brother where's your proof that said prophet muhammed(pbuh)break the peace treaty? The truth is that, many people even some
muslims inclusive have the misconceptions
that any war fought by muslims whether
good or bad is called 'Jihad'.Brother,so any war fought by muslims is JIHAD?If you
translate 'Jihad' into Arabic Language is called
'Harabun Muqaddasa',but surprisingly no
where does this word 'Harabun Muqaddasa'
exist in the Qur'an or Authentic Hadith.
Meanwhile,'Jihad' is derived from the Arabic
word 'Jahdah' which means 'to strive &
struggle'.In fact in the full context,Jihad
basically means to strive & struggle against
one's own evil inclination.It basically means
to strive & struggle to make society better. It
basically means to strive & struggle against
oppression. It also means to strive & struggle
in the battle front in self defence.I'm aware
one of the forms of Jihad is Qital which is
fighting in the way of Almighty GOD in the
battle front,which even @ that you can only
fight those who fought you (that is the way
of GOD) strictly in the battle field against
oppression & aggression.But generally
speaking 'Jihad' does not basically mean
'Holy War' or killing innocent lives as most
people think.Brother talktome has said it all,it's like a waste of time arguing with you because you won't accept the truth...Peace brother.Muhammed(pbuh)wasn't the author of the quran,and nothing was my own interpretation.It's the interpretation of islamic scholars.
interpretations of islamic scholars? That got me thinking.
So,it is no more defence of ur 'muslim' country again but defense during battles? You see,you are contradicting urself again my dear.

These are the things most of ur scholars tried to do,they see that the wars or better put 'raids' of mohammed tarnishes their images,so they(Deedat and co) say many contraditory things and at the end,they become confused and make ppl call ur god a lie!

Mohammed spread his religion by 'Jihad'.

After he fought his 1st jihad with d meccans&looted them(d nakhla raid before d popular battle of badr-which came later),he was encouraged as a results of his victory;and later covenants were made btw him&d meccans not to fight for some yrs; bt mohammed cancelled the covenants with those made with the jews in Yathrib.

Shaykh (sheikh) Abdullah bin Muhammad bin hamid the chief Justice of Saudi Arabia Said:
then allah revealed in sura Bara'at (repentance IX) the order to discard (all) obligations(covenants, etc) and commanded the muslims to fight all the pagans as well as against the people of the scriptures(jews and christains) IF THEY DO NOT ACCEPT ISLaM,till they pay the Jizya.

My friend please stop these contradictions and accept the TRUTH!

Shalom
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 9:52pm On May 07, 2013
talk2me006: welcome pastor olempe!
You need to know more of those verses in your bible.
is like you want to answer the question which hav not been answered by ur oga at the top.
it is either u explain this terrorism verses with proof or remain ignorance for life....

[b]TERRORISM IN THE BILBLE

TERRORISM IN THE BIBLE

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible.[/b]


pls pastor olempe!
kindly explain those above sentenses!

i repeat, if u cant remain silent foreva . grin

grin
I think Alexis gave a wonderful definition of who you are-follow-follow!
And until you pple stop listening to the 'lies' ur ogas at the top tell u abt christainity,i believe you still have a long way to go-guy put up a thinking-cap and think for yourself-i believ you are a man!
I have seen those bible passages being recycled by ur muslim brothers-think for yourself man or are u not a man!
Anyways if you want ur questions answer on those verses,then open another thread otherwise just keep it to urself!
Think man,THINK!

SHALOM.
Christianity EtcRe: Why i hate Religion, but love Jesus by Mintayo(m): 8:50pm On May 07, 2013
Heatblast: Doesn't matter what your Jewish deity did so long as christianity comforms with the english definition of the religion, the case is stamped and settled;

religion[ ri-lij-uhn ]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=religion
That dictionary definition just confirmed what i said-religion is MAN-MADE ATTEMPT TO SAVE HIMSELF.

Jesus did not bring religion.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:34pm On May 07, 2013
alexis: Block for Truth? Omo - are you speaking English? Did you mean to say "Block to the truth"? smiley

What truth - THAT ISLAM CONTRADICTS ITSELF. Now we all know that is TRUE smiley
they just showed us that now-THE TRUTH.
IslamRe: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by Mintayo(m): 8:32pm On May 07, 2013
alexis: Block for Truth? Omo - are you speaking English? Did you mean to say "Block to the truth"? smiley

What truth - THAT ISLAM CONTRADICTS ITSELF. Now we all know that is TRUE smiley
you see that,i didnt bother answering them again(laxtran and talktome); the guy could not just stop 'digging' his own pits. Kept repeating the same thing again and again(in another form)-calling their god a lie-i don't know whether he knows more than him...Allah said this,you say he didnt mean it that way when it is so glaring! (no consistency,contradictions and no arrangements-verses and chapters scattered),and it is a book from a god!
May the Lord open their eyes.

Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: There Is One Thing God Cannot Do by Mintayo(m): 7:35pm On May 07, 2013
rhymz: Now I am going to worsen your mental delusions by pointing clear lies by your biblical God;
Let Me Start with:
Gen 3 vs 6
In this delusional biblical verse, God warns Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of evil, that if they do they will die. Funny enough, it is worthy to note that thesame Adam lived for 930 years according to thesame bible in
Genesis 5 vs 5. Apparently, God lied to Adam to scare him, in fact, the Devil was actually the one that told Adam the truth.
Here is another big lie from your "big God" :
2. Gen 4 vs 16
According to this 4cking verse, as punishment for killing his brother, Cain will be a vagabond and a fugitive "Yet in just a few verses ( Gen 4:16-17)
Cain will settle down, marry, have a son, and build a city. . .lol. . This is not the activity one would expect from a fugitive and a vagabond. Abi your God forget to administer im punishment ni?
You need more lies from your God??
my brother,the death there is not a physical death;if you read that part well,you will know that they(adam and eve) were both naked and they knew it not-but the moment they ate the fruits,their eyes were opened(spiritual death);hence sin entered into the world-the death there is a spiritual death(they were cut-off from relationship with God)-same thing go for christain today;if we sin,we will be cut-off from God except we ask for forgiveness and repent.

Same thing goes for cain-he was banished from the Presence of God! Read vs 23 and 24 of that same chapter.
Jesus loves you BIG BIG.
Christianity EtcRe: There Is One Thing God Cannot Do by Mintayo(m): 7:35pm On May 07, 2013
rhymz: Now I am going to worsen your mental delusions by pointing clear lies by your biblical God;
Let Me Start with:
Gen 3 vs 6
In this delusional biblical verse, God warns Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of evil, that if they do they will die. Funny enough, it is worthy to note that thesame Adam lived for 930 years according to thesame bible in
Genesis 5 vs 5. Apparently, God lied to Adam to scare him, in fact, the Devil was actually the one that told Adam the truth.
Here is another big lie from your "big God" :
2. Gen 4 vs 16
According to this 4cking verse, as punishment for killing his brother, Cain will be a vagabond and a fugitive "Yet in just a few verses ( Gen 4:16-17)
Cain will settle down, marry, have a son, and build a city. . .lol. . This is not the activity one would expect from a fugitive and a vagabond. Abi your God forget to administer im punishment ni?
You need more lies from your God??
my brother,the death there is not a physical death;if you read that part well,you will know that they(adam and eve) were both naked and they knew it not-but the moment they ate the fruits,their eyes were opened(spiritual death);hence sin entered into the world-the death there is a spiritual death(they were cut-off from relationship with God)-same thing go for christain today;if we sin,we will be cut-off from God except we ask for forgiveness and repent.

Same thing goes for cain-he was banished from the Presence of God! Read vs 23 and 24 of that same chapter.
Jesus loves you BIG BIG.

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