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obadiah777: I SEE YOU ARE HERE BEING A REPROBATE AGAIN ? OF COURSE JESUS IS ARCH-ANGEL MICHEAL

With this your post,you just confirm a long-term question i have been finding answer to!

But let me tell you in a plain language- JESUS is not angel micheal!
Jesus is superior to angel micheal!
Micheal and Gabriel are great angels in heaven and Jesus is greater than them!

Infact this may be new to you-I am also superior to Micheal and Gabriel!

frosbel: ^^^^

Funny enough , the JW you keep tagging in your comments , are more on point with some of the key bible doctrines.

Like Jesus is angel micheal?
Like sayin d holy spirit is a force?
Like staying on earth forever?
Like Jesus was not nailed on the cross?
Like not being able to question bt accept every lies?

One of the reasons i love christainty is that you are free to believe whatever you like but you shall also be judged based on that!

Are these the same JW that says Jesus is arch-angel micheal? Lool.

God is love ,true but should we neglect the fact that He had made a way for us through Jesus Christ?
Why did he send Jesus? So that we may escape the coming wrath!
If we talk about the love of God and neglect His wrath,then we err and we are teaching heresy!

Heaven and Hell is real!
Have we forgotten sodom and gomorah? What abt Noah and d flood?
I will say it again-it is heresy to embrace the Love of God and neglect His severity or His wrath!

The Love of God is agape(john 3:16), by sending Jesus to save mankind- anyone who believe in Him will not perish bt has eternal life...so what will happen to those that do not embrace this gift of Love? Those who take God for granted by not accepting His gift of Love?
Now, saying hell is not real is like saying that sin is not real!
The Bible says after 'death,it is judgement'-the grace and mercy of God is available for us as long as we are alive;but once we breath our last-the grace and mercy is no longer available-when we die,we can't accept Jesus again and again no repentance!

Hell is for satan and His demons but for those who refuse God's gift of love and those who reject God will find themselves facing the wrath of God-hell!

How will you tell ppl about heaven and you will not tell them about hell?(dt is the problem of most churches today-they tell their congretion about heaven but they wnt warn them about Hell)
Even satan believe that there is hell-that is why he works day and night to take ppl with him!

People should stay with God, study the Bible with the Help of the Holy Spirit-let the Spirit of truth(the writer of the Bible) lead us into revelation of the Word of God!
And don't ignore the "teachings of JESUS CHRIST"!
Why will you embrace the love of God and neglect His wrath?

highyo: That Jesus which you are rejecting now, you will beg him for mercy if you end up where your mohammed end up.
Mohammed don't have any chance to repent again, but you still have it when you are still breathing, but after you leave the earth, no more opportunity for you o.
But as for me and my family, we will never stop serving Jesus the authour and finisher of our faith

But for you, you will never end up in heLl in Jesus name

As the lord liveth Jesus will deliver your soul from serving satan amen

Why not what if what these people are saying is true? Ok I will pray to the lord of Abraham Isaac and jacob to review the truth to me, or the creator of heaven and earth, let me know the truth. Don't pray to Allah, he will keep lying to you. Pray to God the creator of heaven and earth. He is not a liar, he is a living God and he will answer you for sure.

congrats on ur conversion my dear-d truth is that dis muslims dt are abusing u and condemning will soon come and see d light(i knw it pains them)-it doesnt take d Holy Spirit anything to convert ppl-but our God is not a God of FORCE; He is a loving FATHER-He has a timing and He call people to Himself-it doesn't cause Him anything to change ppl bt He won't do that-He doesn't interfare with our affairs except we INVITE Him though there are exceptional cases like YOURS-God will continue to guide u and lead u into d truth!
For those dt asked u for d colour of Jesus or how He looked like,they have forgotten that our God is not limited-He can decide to take any form to appear to us-also these ppl have nt encounter anything like vision-it is strange to them-i have heard countless testimonies of Jesus apearing to pple in different ways-that is why His coming to earth as a MAN to save mankind is a mystery to them-it is beyond their imagination!
Whether true or false-THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN PASSED!
God bless you!

tintingz: you are one of the lost sheep... Jesus you are calling your saviour was praying to God to save him from death...how that one be my saviour?

Read your bible well Jesus never say anybody should worship him or call him God..he preached one God and not that three head paganism doctrine trinity

You better read and understand the teachings of Jesus Gospel and stop posting bogus about your hell... ALLAH is the LORD of everything not Jesus that cant do nothing by himself.

and pls what has allah done for himself? Millions of muslims are killing demselves everyday for ur god allah who promised dem paradise if dey kill for him-again what allah done for himself? Copying d Bible and given it to a stark illiterate in language which no one can understand? Beating mohammed to convulsion? Or mohammed killing and killing for him?
Jesus is the Saviour of mankind-the Bible call Him a mediator btw man and God-nobody can ccome to God except through Jesus and d whole world shall bow and kneel before Him!
Read d Bible well and see d truth in it,Jesus was worshipped right from d OT to d NT and He will forever b worshipped!

truthman2012: @ ayenny02

I want to believe you did not understand my post because in all you said I could not see where anyone washed his legs hand, nose, mouth etc AT THE SAME TIME and face Kaaba putting only his forehead on the ground like muslims.

All I could see are people kneeling down praying. I even saw praying with fasting, how relevant this is, I don't know.

I saw some people praying facing a particular direction requesting God to answer their prayer because they did so (no washing of all body parts like muslims). It was their personal decision to face the direction, it was not commanded by God and not a ROUTINE.

Pilgrimage. Christians too go to Jerusalem to see those things the Bible talks about not to worship an idol like the muslims do in Mecca.

Acts 21:26
The Jews have days they set aside for purification of the temple, which Paul also had to observe. It was not every hour or every day affairs.

In all you have stated nobody followed the muslims way of praying. Those who washed their hands and legs never washed the mouth, nose and ear at the same time.

Those who faced a particular direction praying never washed any part of their body. No where did anybody complete the proccess of muslim prayer at the same. You people just picked one here one there and incompletely joined them together.

my dear,u dnt knw dis ppl,dey r very desperate to relate Jesus to islam-but they are missing it-Jesus was never a muslim and He is not a muslim-there own jesus is different from christain Jesus who came to die for d sins of d world(dey will neva accept that)-christain Jesus is d son of God,He is d first and d last,and d ancient of days!
He did nt pray in d name of allah-He didnt say :allah is god and mohammed is his prophet(is dt nt what muslims say when dey pray? Dey also say allah didnt beget any son-a limited god indeed)!
Jesus did not face d kabba to pray-He raises His hands to heaven-He didnt wash His hands,nose, legs,hands and mouth before He prays-infact He didnt preach physical cleansing-He came to connect us to the Almighty God!
And do u knw d fun of it;He will judge everyone including mohammed and d whole world shall bow on there knees to worship Him!

Jesus is Lord

biafranqueen: When will people learn to have a personal relationship with they God Wonders shall never cease

i don't know what is strong with christains today...they want quick miracles, while they can't b patient enough with God to help them...d Bible is enough for anybody that wants anything from God...
If only they know; we are not to go to any prophet for anything;we are nt 2 seek any prophet but to seek only after Christ-if we r 2 go to any prophet, we are only to go to prophet for confirmation of what God has told us through His words or so!
And funny enough this hly water may not even work!

lanrexlan: I never argued with you that another person was given the title ONLY BEGOTTEN[/b]as your bible claim.Only Jesus was called that according to some bibles.The meaning of [b]BEGOTTEN[/b]you explained is for abraham(pbuh)a man,not God.Everyone is a begotten son of his father.If Jesus is [b]ONE AND ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD,then nobody should be called [b]BEGOTTEN OF GOD[/b]again,but david was called that.That's my point,but it seems you guys are getting me wrong.No need arguing with you again,continue with that belief of yours.My Lord begets not nor was he begotten.It doesn't befit the majesty of the creator of the heavens and earth to beget a son.Are you talking about Surah As-saffat 37;165-166?........Peace

loool...a god that is limited,that requires ppl to fight for him!
A god who has no salvation plan-just do good;let ur good surpasses ur bad and u l enter paradise...even if satan do good,he will enter his paradise!

Just as david is a son,same thing with all born-again christains; we are all sons of God-we bcame son when we accept Jesus as our Lord and saviour!
Jesus is the ONLY begotten SON of God by d virtue of His birth;by His obedience- we christains bcame sons once we accept christ Jesus!
David was a son because God declared so-"this day"!
At a time,God called david 'd apple of His eyes'!
I dnt except u to understand...it is a mystery...it is not abt wanting Jesus 2b above mohammed-(Jesus)HE IS ABOVE ALL and He will judge all man-kind including mohammed...whoever is frm above is above all!

alexis: Dude - I have pointed out the difference between BEGOTTEN AND ONLY BEGOTTEN. No other person/character in the Bible is the ONLY BEGOTTEN of God except Jesus. So, twist it how much you want - it doesn't change the fact that Jesus if the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD.

John 3:16 === For God so loved the world, that he gave his [size=15pt]only begotten Son[/size], that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

Psalms 2: 7 === I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

You will have to be blind to see that BEGOTTEN and ONLY BEGOTTEN have two different meanings.

I rest my case. In between, can you explain a subject to me in Isalm. The Surah of Succession!

honestly, i don't know what is blocking dis eyes from seeing...bt i am nt surprised anyway..
Everywhere Jesus is been refer to as a Son; it is always 'ONLY BEGOTTEN SON'!
No other person in the Bible is being qualified as that!
Until they stop being biased and finding fault in the Bible...they will never see the REVELATION OF THE TRUTH in the BIBLE!

Bsmartt: alhamdulillah for a topic like this.it is now left to the muslims to play his/her part in preaching the gospel of islam and the teachings of the Holy prophet(S.A.W).may ALLAH guide those muslims that have went astray and continue to guide and guard us to the right path to paradise.ameen. PEACE

'gospel ke'
Oti o; abeg rephrase am o!

jude33084: You are right on that, let them come and testify

Back to the topic; where did the issue of hate comes from then?

QURAN!

Going by d op post,then millions of ppl are not muslims-bokoharam; alqueda; countries like iran(who fund terrorists), pakistan, afghanistan,libya, egypt etc-then majority of the ppl in dis country are nt muslims den bcus dis countries fund terrorists heavily!

lanrexlan: So Brother,you are also a 'begotten son' now?? See your words

as opposed to believers who are God's sons and
daughters through faith.
Don't misuse that word 'begotten' bro,my question is very straightforward,if Jesus is ONE AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,then the word BEGOTTEN shouldn't be used for any other person again in the bible.But God said HE BEGOT DAVID,meaning david is also a begotten son.That's a contradiction then.....Peace

i guess u are so blind...so blind!

[quote author=]The quran is one,the arabic is the same.Where's your proof that the first calipha of Islam burnt all the quran in existence then?
Now you agreed we must look at the root of words when translating to another language when trying to prove your begotten,but you never agreed with the word 'summa' when I was proving the creation of the universe.Why the bias mind?.Provide the hebrew bible or greek bible then..........Peace[/quote]you are a funny dude(i believe d truth is hitting u)...but i know what u are thinking-just like other muslims-they have issues with Jesus being God cus that will place mohammed below Him...but of which he is...and He is going to be judged by JESUS-whether u believe it or not!

Concerning ur quran,from what u just said- d quran that was written or given to mohammed is d same quran that u ppl r using today?
Do u know that quran was not written or compiled by mohammed
Let us assume that d arabic quran is d only and original quran; and dis quran l b re-written(or mayb photocopied) in arabic in order for it 2b in circulation? True?
So are u saying dt while re-writing it in arabic,wnt there b mistakes? Are dis writers gods?
I am sure u knw dt arabic is a very difficult language to understand,translate and even write
I v watched many arabic countries having conference and interestingly they hardly talk in arabic but English...bcus they differ in "interpretation"!

Now let me tell u something else(i doubt if u l believe dt); during d days of mohammed-d writing materials den were ink and feather, on a slate, true?

Now assuming u r writing wit ink n feather to write-looking at d difficulty in writing in arabic-obviously der l b mistake wen dey r writing(d quran),and dis ink has no eraser and also d issue of drying Also when writing ur hand or palm l b rubbing what u r writing(since it is ink and it is on a slate),dis may cause alot of difficulty 2d writer,den what?
So what happened to d mistakes made? I knw u wnt agree...but it is d truth!

Do u knw dt 'surah' also means 'fence'?

lanrexlan: Lolz,bird of a father.Two confused souls,mintayo changing the words of jesus(pbuh).Jesus said 'why did you call me good'.Most christians I had a dialogue with admit this,but mr mintayo said jesus meant the other way round,mintayo said he meant good deeds won't take the man to heaven.Jesus said 'keep the commandments'.Brother mintayo said keeping the commandments won't take you to heaven.Changing words to suite your claims,confused and ignorant people....Peace

u are d one confuse here...again the commandment won't take u to heaven...it is been born-again; being born of the spirit and water(the word)!
Now, d rich man said 'good teacher'- he called Jesus good teacher and Jesus corrected Him!
And he asked,what shall i do to have eternal life...Jesus told him to obey d commandments but he said he has been doing that...THEN JESUS TOLD HIM TO SELL ALL HIS BELONGING AND GIVE THEM TO THE POOR AND FOLLOW HIM-note the word-"follow me"- but d man cldn't-HE THOUGHT GOOD DEEDS AND OBEYING THE COMMANDMENTs ALONE(of which he has nt been obeying) WILL TAKE HIM TO HEAVEN BUT NO,IT WON'T!
(pls read d whole chapter dnt pick verses dt suits ur LIES!)
John 3:16
For God so loved the world,that He gave His only begotten Son; Whosoever believe in Him,will not perish but have everasting life!

If u want a better understanding read d book of romans!
Jesus said in John 5:39-40.
You search the scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the scriptures points to me!
40. Yet you refused to come to me to recieve this Life.

We are saved and redeemed because of the finished work of Jesus Christ!
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free!

alexis: Personal attacks when you can't debate properly. No surprise!

don't mind him...so ignorant so pathetic...smh
He needs salvation!

Lastly,who told you killing a ram will make muslims enter JANNAH(paradise)?

really? Then another form of adolatory then!

The criteria to enter paradise is given in the glorious Quran in surah Al-Asr 103;1-3-''Verily,by time.Mankind is in loss.Except those who believe(islamic monotheism)and do righteous deeds and recommend one another to truth and recommend one another to patience''.

i guess so many won't feature in ur paradise then...another difference btw allah n christain God!
I can do good deeds,as long as it surpasses my bad deeds;but d state of my heart doesnt matter,neither does my sinful nature counts!

These are minimum four criterias for anyone to enter paradise,they are;
1)To believe in all the six articles of faith.
2)To perform good and righteous deeds(in accordance to the sunnah and sincerely for ALLAH's sake).
3)To invite people to truth and forbid evil for them(DAWAH and ISLAH)
4)To patient and invite others to patience.

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Good,another difference again!
I can do all d above. Again so many ppl wnt make ur paradise including muslims...do good deeds but u can go on sinning!
E.g an Alhaji cn go on 2 sponsor terrorists and distribute money to d poor-he l find himself in ur paradise?
No wonder d place is full of a many 'unrighteous' things-(virgins 4 terrorists...wine etc)u l go 2 a paradise wit a sinful nature?

That's the criterias and jesus(pbuh)said in the bible in gospel of matthew 19;16-17-''And one came upon him and said;Good master,what good things shall I do that I will have eternal life(paradise),and jesus answered;Why did you me good? There's none but good which is one(GOD),if thou will enter into life(paradise),keep the commandments''.

haaa...cherry-picking d bible again!

Jesus(pbuh) was even humble to be call good,and he told the man that If he will enter paradise,he should keep the commandments.

oga...u r wrong sir!
Jesus was telling d man dt good deeds cant take u to heaven(nt paradise); He also make d man understand dt 'keeping d commandments wnt take u too heaven either!
So u r wrong again...since u love reading d Bible so much;mayb u shld try and read it 'openmindedly' not with a biased or poison heart dt u have!

Now let me show u d way to God's kingdom!
John 3:3
3. Jesus replied, " i tell you the truth,unless you are born again, you cannot see the kingdom of God."
verse 5-6 says
5. Jesus replied,"i assure you,no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit!
6. Humans can produce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life,

you see that;being born again means you are born of God-u v given ur life 2 God through Jesus b born of Spirit: God is a Spirit and u must worship him in d Spirit!

When someone is in Christ,He is a new creature,old things(sinful body or nature)has pass away,all things(new spirit) are becoming new!

John 1:12-13
but to all who believed Him and accepted Him,He gave the right to become children of God.
They are reborn-not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan,but a birth that comes from God!

God does not deal with the body but our spirit!
The criteria to ur paradise differs from dt of christains!

I pray ur eyes will be open to the truth...and u will c d Love of God through Jesus!

lanrexlan: Mtcheew,I don't reply people that can't comprehend simple things,brainwashed heads because if I explain it to you,you won't understand because your reasoning is damn low......Peace

loool..u mean cant explain somethin to someone who can't understand or accept ur LIES; ur DECEPTION?

lanrexlan: He can't answer your stupid question.

loool...y nt answer it urself seems u knw much!
I am still waiting for d answer anyways...smh for d lies u ppl v been telling ursefs!

Lilimax: Fish out all of them in their various caves and camps.
Deal with them severly by feeding them with pigs.
NDI ARA!!

babe u wicked o...lols
pigs ke? U no wan make dem land in paradise?

tunshe: Islam is a religion of peace and whoever acts otherwise is not part of us.

u knw,i have heard that more dn a million times...and i dnt need dt msg,tell bokoharam, alqueda,iran sponsoring terrorist who kill shouting 'allahu akbar'!
They nid d msg n dey r d one showing us what islam really is!

Like i said u cn believ what u like bt pls lets odas believ what dey want too,must u force ur belief into somone's throat?

tunshe: Pendulum is your second name.

A trait of Hypocrites.

Swing to the left and later to the right,I shouldn't have taken you serious.

guy answer my question nw?

CAMEROONPRIDE: I used to like Islam real talk, used to like their rituals and the way they respect or try to respect their religion, but not anymore, you all are Arab slaves.period, I don't see the point for an African a black African to b a Muslim after what they did and keep doing, the way black Muslim are treated in those Arabic countries/Muslim dominated countries should make you leave Islam

they don't really knw...i wish dey knw...i bet those ones r nt 'real' muslims!

tunshe: Discussion of local Nigerian bigots who can't see beyond their nostril. You have issues with the Jews too.

Christianity died a long time ago when Islam arrived.

loool...who killed christainity? Mohammed? U? Guy u r funny...honestly!

tunshe: Your thoughts!Your opinion!!Its not binding!!!

Just wait and see how people continue to revert to Islam,I pray u are not left behind like the son of Noah.

revert to islam u say-u mean convert to islam?
U knw i always believe dt too until i met an iranian convert who told me that' hundreds r leaving islam' bt muslims will nt knw and these ppl will nt tell anyone too bcus of fear of being beheaded!

So u only c those dt convert to islam bt my friend no one will tell u dt 'i v left islam' bcus he/she loves his/head. (he himself is an example-he ran to america).

He told me dt so many in pakistani,iran r even leaving islam bt dey wnt announce it bcus of fear; n u r here 'consolling' urself dt ppl r changing to islam...is good anyways!
Hey m still waitin for ur answer abt quran nw!

CAMEROONPRIDE: Truth about Islam:


If christianity disappeared off the face of the earth i doubt islam would survive, it seems to be solely predicated on being anti-christian. don't you think the same thing?

they really scared abt christainity...lol.
is like christains r d only threat to islam-so will do anything to erase christainity,bt it aint gonna work!
With christainty,d 'authenticity' of islam is being questioned!

tunshe: Same to you.

I know what I stand for and I shall die by it. ISLAM

u can die by anything u like,who cares? Bt must everyone die by what u believe
Just let others die by what they believe too!
Period!

tunshe: There is nothing like Original Quran,there has been only one Quran and it shall remain Original.

Although there were fake Qurans circulated by Jews and Christians to mislead muslims which were exposed because we have a lot of Muslims who have committed the Entire Quran to memory.

then answer my question nw? D quran u r using,is it d original quran?
D quran u r using,is it d same as dt of saudi prince?
So it is d original quran all muslim r using? As in ONE quran?
Pls help me nw...

tunshe: You got it all wrong but answered the reason for wars in Iraq,Afghanistan and other Muslim countries.

i cn guess what u wana say-america n europe? Ryt?
If america and europe are what u think dey really are,then not a single mosque will b found there at all...
Aw many churches do u v in iran,afghanistan,saudi etc?....so much more for tolerance!
I heard someone say that iran n co wnt knw peace bcus of d innocents lives mohammed n co had slaughtered...i cnt help thinkin abt that...

tunshe: Clearly, you don't know what you are saying,so there is no point exchanging words with you.

If you wanna ask a question,u can but coming up with off points its not acceptable.

If you think a text book was sent down,then continue to swim in your fallacy.

i tot ur quran was sent down...is that not ur general belief? Pls enlighten us how did d quran came to being? I am curious honestly...as in d original quran!

tunshe: That shows the genuine and original nature of the Quran.

We don't have a new Quran,its the same from the Prophet Muhamed (SAW) till now.

The new testament you guys carry around now is not known to Jesus (A.S) and he's gonna deny you when he returns.

funny dude...so d quran allah gave mohammed is d one all muslims are using today? D exact one? So d quran u have with u is d one allah gave mohammed or what r u sayin,pls enlighten us!