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nobilis:
There are two arms of the Catholic Church.
1. The Roman Catholic Church which thrives in the West and believes in the headship of the Bishop of Rome also known as the Pope.
2. The Eastern Catholic Church (also known as Eastern Orthodox) which thrives in the Middle East and parts of the former USSR and believes in the headship of the Bishop of Constantinople (present day Istanbul), also known as the Ecumenical Patriarch.

These two churches are essentially the same; infact they used to be a single church until the Ecumenical councils of Nicaea(325AD) and Constantinople(381AD) where it was required of the attending bishops to clarify some articles of faith. That was where the rift started but it became final with the epic quarrel between Pope Leo IX and Patriarch Michael Cerularius where the Pope holds onto the authority of Peter the Apostle to claim headship over all the church and also because Rome was the Capital of the then Roman Empire. But the Patriarch refused to accept that on the grounds that they were both bishops and that Constantinople was also capital of the Eastern Roman Empire. The quarrel led to the each bishop excommunicating the other in 1054.

Well, with the above background, the person might be using catholic as a short form of roman catholic. Or he might be saying he doesn't subscribe to the schism between the Eastern and Western Catholic Churches. Or he might be a protestant who is using the word catholic to deflate the ego of roman catholics in the sense that the word catholic means "universal" and the christian church as a whole is claimed to be universal.

Whew!!!!
I've said too much.

thanks a whole lot.I really learnt a lot..but do they share the same doctrines?

Although, she has since regained her freedom, after spending one year behind bars, it will, perhaps, take Miss Jennifer Ngozi Mberekpe a long time to overcome the traumatic experience she had while in prison.
In fact, the more she tries to erase the unthinkable picture from her mind, the more she’s haunted by its memory. She can never look towards the unforgetable prison images without a ‘shudder and a sigh.’

Miss Ngozi Mberekpe
From the terrifying practice of ‘warm bath’ by the prison mother, and the unholy practices that become the order of the day in the cell, the prison gate for Miss Mberekpe presents a scary picture of the proverbial “Gate of hell, or better still, a thin line between death and life.”
“The first day I entered the prison, the authorities there were contemplating on which of the cells they would put me. At last, they took me to a particular cell where they handed me over to a cellmate called my mother who gave me a “warm bath” as a way of welcoming me to the cell, and later she took me through the prison routine,” she began.
Miss. Mberekpe was recently freed from the Kirikiri Prison, Apapa. She had been behind bars since last year, following a case of fraud preferred against her. But for divine intervention, she was freed some 12 days after the Founder and General Overseer of Word and Spirit Assembly Church, Satellite Town, Pastor. Chris Ekeh visited the Kirirkiri Prison on the 17th of July, 2015, to celebrate his 40th birthday with the inmates. Her case was struck out by the trial judge.
In a recent encounter with Saturday Vanguard, Miss Mberekpe, who hails from Imo State, told us what it was like to spend a year of her life in the prison, living at the mercy of the inedible food, solitary lifestyle and the scratchy prison uniforms. Describing her release as a “divine intervention’ Mberekpe said, the prison is not a place anyone can wish for his or her enemies.
While the days, Mberekpe spent behind bars were terrible, she believes that the worst of these moments was when she was first transported from the court to the Kirikiri prison.
According to her, “When they took me to the prison, I thought it was the end of the road for me. I left everything in the hands of God. I prepared my mind to accept the worst while in prison. I was not scared, but it is not an experience one would wish his or her enemies. It is only those inmates who have no focus that would want to go back there.”
While I was in prison, she continued, “ I never had any good news. It was one sad story or the other. But what kept me going was the fact that I believed I would overcome my travails someday. I was never discouraged.”
However, one thing that gave Miss Mberekpe sleepless nights throughout her one year behind bars was a situation where her family, friends and church members abandoned her to her fate. She said, “ Even when I called my relations, friends and church members nobody came to my rescue. But despite my predicaments, I still had peace within me and I strongly believed that someday, I would regain my freedom.”
Miss Mberekpe opened a can of warms, revealing that lesbianism, among other ugly acts, thrives in prison. “ I discovered some unholy practices such as lesbianism thriving in prison. But I did not do it because from the moment I was ushered into the place, my cell mates knew I was a Christian and did not indulge in such unholy practice,” she revealed.
She however, acknowledged the efforts made by the prison authorities to curb the bestial act. “ All thanks to the former Deputy Controller of Prisons,DCP, who dealt with the evil. She stood up against it and ensured that lesbianism was drastically reduced in the prison,” she said.
Miss Mberekpe’s journey to the Kirikiri prison, began in 2014, when she was linked with N12.5 million deal, which was invested in her former company by their clients. Then she was working with a Lagos- based assets management company which was into stock, shares and pri

please this thread was not created to abuse any church,neither was it created to heat up argument...I just need to know the answer to my question....what is the difference between the roman catholic and the catholic church?.this is because I grew up around people claiming to be roman catholic while some other people claimed to be catholic.if my view is wrong,don't hesitate to correct me pls.........italo stephansmily,!and dmandy please I seriously need your help.

Tagaste:
The Catholic Church is the One True Church that Jesus instituted. Where was your church 50yrs ago, maybe 100 yrs ago. It mushroomed with no authority to do what its doing, let alone pastors.

take it easy sir,no one is fighting the catholic church now.its just that whether or not it was the pope who said it,is what we don't know.but don't you think it is worth researching on because I have been seeing the pope a whole lotta times on the news these days.

Mcslize:
You got a point there. If only Ggod will show me I would have loved to embark on some fasting and praying. Cuz I really want to know who she is

yes God would love to show you,but I am quite sure that in God's agenda for your life,marriage is not a priority now..a man injects his semen into a woman during intercourse,she then incubates it for nine months given it the required nutrient till it forms a baby.so does a woman,picks up a man who knows his purpose by revelation from God,incubates it and before you know it.you have attained heights you never dreamed of..a wife is good,but you need to know the purpose for which you were born so that she can be a good incubator of your destiny..you can only know your purpose by deepening your relationships with God and not by feelings.

Jeromejnr:
Epic ending.

my brother I greet you this morning.

italo:
***coming from the hypocrite who says answering questions is of no use.

mtchhww...OK oh..calling me a hypocrite or even abusing me won't make me worship Mary..I guess your pope holds the sole right of bible interpretation... Mine is the holy ghost.. If you dont believe in the holy ghost,then we have nothing to argue about?? I have tried to avoid argument but you keep pushing it..a beg I don't tire......please go worship Mary while I pray for you.

dmandy:
You hate her with passion, so much passion.

You don't believe she intercedes for you. How is that my business?

Repent and call her blessed for God has done mighty things for her.

Don't be jealous of her else you back to where you are coming from. Don't say you were not told.

k......I don hear.

italo:
Now he calls 1Cor13:12 & 1John3:2 "ignorance."

who interpretes the bible for you??

dmandy:
But you have a pagan origin. Pagan

except a man is born again,he will not see the kingdom of God........

italo:
*off point.

Coming from the one who said answering questions are of no use.

Hypocrite.

hypocrite u say??u simply don't know who a hypocrite isexcept a man be born again he will not see the kingdom of God....a word is enough for the wise...

italo:
Yet 1Cor13:9-12 says Mary knows in full...1John3:2 says she is like God.

this is absolute ignorance......Mary dey heaven dey enjoy herself,una sitdan here dey kill unasefl.

dmandy:
O yeah she knows.

Hope u brought some souvenirs from hell?

I pray hatred for Mary doesn't take you there again.

yes I did........POINT OF CORRECTION I DONT HATE MARY,I LOVE HER....BUT I DONT WORSHIP HER,I DONT BELIEVE SHE INTERCEDES FOR ME,I DONT BELIEVE IN THE DEAD PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HELL OR HEAVEN WHICH YOU CALL SAINTS..

italo:
Off point.

u think Jesus didn't show me hell,that I told a lie.then I ask if it was your house that the queen of heaven visited the last time she visited earth?

italo:
Hmm...it is embracing lies that will do good.

hahaha..what lies??that you over honour Mary.??...........who even thought you guys the sign of the cross??lol..

dmandy:
You have a pagan origin, you are a pagan.

I am not a pagan.wanna know y..because I am born again.(new creature)..

dmandy:
A vessel whom good used and dumped like your ex?

All generations shall call her blessed and that is whether you like it or not.

hahahahaha..funny catholics.mart doesn't even know the kind of things u guys do in her names.else she for the cry wela..

italo:
I see. Coming from the one who says Mary can't visit earth...but you can visit hell.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahha.....shey na your house Mary come

dmandy:
Yadayada yada

Our father who is in heaven and hail Mary full of grace.. are the prayers that make up the rosary. They have biblical origin not pagan.

praying to Mary and the saints is based on the commandment to pray for one another. The saints whether in heaven or on earth are part of the body of christ. Even death cannot separate us from his love. That is of biblical origin and not pagan.

Now, your great grand father was a pagan, you have a pagan origin. does that make you a pagan?

hahahahahaah...kkkk...a beg make una let me rest with this una popped coined biblical interpretation....una don win oh.
case closed.

italo:
If I ask you questions on these, you'll run away, like olaadegbu.

she we agreed that you won..yes I won't answer your questions.because answering them won't do any good.only will it prolong this discussion..

Jeromejnr:
He's not sure of what he believes in that's why he is quoting you.

if he isn't sure,he should say it,instead of magnifying a vessel whim God chooses to use by virtue of his sovereignty. Even Mary was shocked that God could pass through her because she knew that she wasn't the only virgin as at then.....if there is anybody to honor,I think Abraham should be honored because I don't think any sane man will sacrifice his only son.but,no man dead or alive is worthy of the kind of honor these catholics give to common Mary.

Jeromejnr:
He's not sure of what he believes in that's why he is quoting you.

yes I think he is..he is sure because the pope told him so.but what about me.......I KNOW WHOM I BELIEVE IN.I HE SPEAKS TO ME AND CONFIRMS HIS WORDS TO ME..he speaks,nd his words never disagree with the bible.I am a living witness to the death and ressurection of Christ.I av even visited hell before..my brother,my heart bleeds for catholicsbecause sSatan is leading them straightto hell...

Jeromejnr:
He's not sure of what he believes in that's why he is quoting you.

yes I think he is..he is sure because the pope told him so.but what about me.......I KNOW WHOM I BELIEVE IN.I HE SPEAKS TO ME AND CONFIRMS HIS WORDS TO ME..he speaks,but his words never disagree with the bible.I am a living witness to the death and ressurection of Christ.I av even visited hell before..my brother,my heart bleeds for catholicsbecause sSatan is leading them straightto hell...

Jeromejnr:
Thank God I've witnesses.

Enjoy your queen of heaven.

he needs the rosary to do that oh.

italo:
That's how olaadegbu, misreal, jeromejnr keep running from thread to thread.

Debunk them here, they run there.

Ask them question, they can't answer.

Give them scripture, they say it's human tradition.

Meanwhile they cannot reveal their mushroom churches o...

Because they eat snakes and drink petrol in their churches...

hahahaa.she we agreed that you won the argument? Why quote me again? You claim you know the truth when you don't interpreted the bible with the help of the holy ghost,but rather with the aid of the pope..any form of biblical interpretation that doesn't exalt,honor,magnifies and portrays the lordship of Jesus is in error,yet you boast to know the scripture.. You pray the rosary which is a consequense of pagan customs yet you say you know the scriptures,You pray through Mary and other saints which is also a consequence of pagan custom that infiltrated the church.this pagan cultures,needs to be taken out of your places of worship,else you willbe promoting your church false teachings while you live a sinful life..please stop quoting me a beg..if my stance,annoys you I am sorry because sometimes we just have to be brutal.

italo:
You're scared. That's why you'd rather say any other thing under the sun...than answer them.

k.you win.Mary his the queen of heaven.

italo:
Pope that compiled the bible in 382AD.

Maybe he lied about the compilation too.

Clown.

bros you are deceiving yourself,not me..did Mary command you to abuse me too??

italo:
Yet you argue...

Until you are asked question that will expose your error...

then you flee...and say "I don't want to argue."

Go and tell your pastors who say 'once saved always saved...even if you keep sinning'...about sin, not me.

I know it already.

hahahahhahahah..the things of the spirit is foolishness to carnal men..my brother,even if I start giving you answers to all your questions you will still not believe..am not scares of you or your questions sir..please stop worshing the queen of heaven..she is a demon...lol..

dmandy:
No sir,
all for himself

OK sir,no shaking.

italo:
Oh! So you can reply me afterall. Means you were just dodging my questions in the other thread.

Well done with your dubious hide-and-seek Christianity.

I don't worry about my decision to follow the Church Jesus gave us

my man,arguing about this things will never solve the problem.have you ever succeeded in convincing anyone about your faith..but let it not be heard anywhere that you were not warned of the dangers of living in sin..let those who have ears,hear what the spirit is saying.

dmandy:
After death comes judgement. Catholics know.

I also hope that they know that no priest,bishop,pastor or even pope will stand in judgement for them.all men will stand for themselves.the time yo know the truth is now because after death..the pope lied will not be an excuse.

vooks:
If there are no scriptures to support your belief, what are they based on? Traditions of men?

it seems you are not here to know the truth but to argue.jrjerome,has answered your question but you are still adamant.if you needed the truth,you would taken his advice..my brother you need to know God yourself and stop saying the things your pastor told you..if my pastor says things that are not in line with the spirit of God,I always know..press into God and ask him to reveal himself to you instead of swallowing everything your priest tells you..I have talked enough sir,I rest my case.