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reedmund:
I perceive these from your words - "You are typing faster than you read and you are speaking faster than you listen"...

if you perceived it by decernment. Then you need prayers.

4reigningqueen:
I am not really a fan of the devil but i just kept wondering that we should at least hear his own part of the story as regards what happened before he was thrown out.

Who has seen him or who knows how we can contact him to at least clear all doubts maybe it will even help the atheist.

the reason why man fell was because eve listen ed to Satan. Be wise my friend. M

reedmund:
Hey, I never said ALL my visitations are from God neither did I receive any doctrines and that is why I am talking about discernment here. I mean I have seen dreams that appeared to be a dream of instruction but when weighed by the word of God, they are not the right instructions. So, who are you to say "You again?". You sound offensive. The call is for CHRISTIANS to NOT believe EVERY SPIRIT because not all spirits are from God. Even the greatest born again Christian can be deceived. And YES you can discern a demonic spirit.

now you are talking right, which is good..many preachers has been deceived...what if you didn't know enough of the Bible to base your revelations on.

reedmund:
Have you read these texts in the Bible?

1) As many as are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.

2) It is the spirit that bears witness with our spirits that we are the Sons of God.

So, if you are led by the Holy Spirit, you don't need to wait for the last day to understand TRUTH.

I just posted a new topic on "How to know if a spirit is from God or Satan". Perhaps you should check it out.

you simply don't know what it mean to be led of the spirit. You think because your mind deceived you into thinking women should not cover their head in worship then you are spiritual. If the scripture that says women should cover their head wasn't relevant, y did the holyghost allow it to be placed in the Bible. My screen is bad, else I would have told you the SPIRITUAL relevance of covering the head during worship. The spirit that spoke to you is not the holyghost.i have met many of your type.

reedmund:
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (1JOHN 4:1)

The Lord's been training me on discernment for many years since the moment He told me He'd use me. I have seen angels in my dreams. I have also seen elders in my dream and I must say i have had some angelic visitations in human form and one thing the Lord has been 'hammering on' is that I MUST LEARN DISCERNMENT. It is one of the greatest weapons we'd be needing in this end time because there will be many deceiving revelations and visions of heaven and hell. Satan will disguise as an angel of light, pretending to be Jesus and will appear to deceive many by the religious spirit. The religious demon will lead many to hell. These demons will convince people that the blood of Jesus and the CROSS is not enough for them, that they must do some extra work on themselves to be saved. Whereas the scripture clearly warns that by strength shall no man prevail and it cannot be by power nor might but by the spirit of God (Holy Spirit - Spirit of Holiness). I have learned so much about discernment by experiences and I have seen that I must learn to separate the Holy from the Profane. Just because a bright light appears doesn't mean it is Jesus' visit. We must learn to discern before surrendering to any spiritual visitation. Sandy Warner, the Apostolic Movement International and many other ministers have been of tremendous help to me in this journey.

Here is a link to understand if a spirit is from God or Satan:
http://www.thequickenedword.info/classes/HowGodSpeaks/Discernment/IdentifyingChristianWitchcraft.htm

Here is a link to a LESSON ON DISCERNMENT
http://www.thequickenedword.com/rhema/discern.html

you again. You can never teach a person to discern demons. Only depths of prayers can. And what if the visitations you had where not from God? Or maybe you think you can't be deceived. More over, discernment is a gift of the spirit.

.m

reedmund:
There is what we call "The Religious Spirit" ... And there's another called "The Spirit of truth or Spirit of God"... Know the difference.
The Religious Spirit's focus is on outward appearances.. If you understand discernment, you'd know that not every angel who appears in dreams are from GOD. Some are deceiving spirits. Some will cause you to focus on self-righteousnesses than on the true God. I suggest you do a deep study in "Spiritual Discernment".

ok oh. we will discuss that on the last day.

Yahushuabride1:
" The wearing of fabric head coverings in worship was universally the practice of Christian women until the twentieth century. What happened? Did we suddenly find some biblical truth to which the saints for thousands of years were blind? Or were our biblical views of women gradually eroded by the modern feminist movement that has infiltrated the Church...? - R.C. Sproul "


I think you all need to read this:

Subject: The Apostles and the Head Covering Seminar Dream - A Must read !!

On Monday, 05 August 2013, before 6am I had a dream.
In the dream I was attending a seminar titled " Head Covering" Seminar.
Standing in the congregation was myself and four other women, in front of me. I didn't turn back to see if there were any women standing behind me.
We were all standing and paying attention to the facilitators of the seminar, who were all standing on the pulpit.
Inside the building looked like a church and had modern electrical light fixtures.
The facilitators of this seminar were all the Apostles of old.
The main facilitator was a bold man, and he was of a huge stature, compared with the rest of the Apostles. They were all men.
In my spirit's understanding during my dream, I understood that Apostles James, John ,Paul, Peter, Nathaniel, Andrew, Timothy and all of Jesus' Apostles were the ones standing on the pulpit. They had ancient clothes on, and guess what ? they all had stern looks on their faces. None of them was smiling.
Their spokesperson -this same bold man- spoke to me and the other four women, thus:
" it seems that the women in your generation are confused on how to properly cover their heads in church".
I was shocked ! Because even in my dream, I knew who I was, I knew my name, I knew I lived in the 21st century, I knew what year it was - 2013 -, I knew that I lived in Australia, and I knew that almost all the churches in Australia and the Western world don't encourage their female church goers/ female Christians to practice the head covering tradition anymore.
In fact, most Christians in these end times would despise and/or pick disputes with female Christians who choose to cover their hair for religious reasons.

So in the dream I said to myself that " what am I hearing and what am I seeing ? Is this a joke or what ?"

The main speaker was saying that this is not a matter to be taken lightly, and that a woman's hair should be covered with a head covering in such a way that her hair must not be revealed to the exterior, while she is in church.


He said that half-covering of the head was not allowed. It was as if this Apostle read my mind, because I was just about to raise my hand and ask him if partial head-covering was allowed. Then he called one of us women from the congregation and gave a demonstration on how the Christian woman's head should be properly covered in church.
He courteously offered her a chair to sit on, then he took a scarf and gently tied it on her head.

Oh yes !! he tied a scarf on this sister's head, exactly the way the Deeper life Christian sisters in Nigeria do tie their head scarves.

When I woke up, I told my husband and children about the dream.
Then my husband said to me, that " well, they - God's messengers - have shown you something that Christians these days would call a controversy. But there's no controversy now, its been clearly revealed to you, and this has been authorised by God in His word."

So, no matter the persecution from fellow believers in Christ Jesus, I must be most unwise to draw back, after such a privileged revelation from God.

Points to ponder:

1. In this dream, the Apostles that stood on the pulpit during this Head Covering seminar, all had stern looks on their faces. I knew this matter was and is so serious that none of them was smiling.

2. In my dream, I didn't ask the main spokesman his name, he might have been Apostle Peter or Apostle Paul - the actual writer of 1 Corinthians 11.

3. In the original Greek and Hebrew Bibles, the Greek and Hebrew words that Apostle Paul used for 'Head Covering' in 1 Corinthians Chapter 11 from verses 4 to 13, are different from the Greek and Hebrew words he used for 'Covering' in 1 Corinthians Chapter 11 verse 15.


Yours sincerely in Christ Jesus.



Please see these resources:

http://www.antipas.org/books/covered/lhbc_p4.html

http://www.headcoveringmovement.com/

moreover Paul was speaking to women with long hair.

Yahushuabride1:
" The wearing of fabric head coverings in worship was universally the practice of Christian women until the twentieth century. What happened? Did we suddenly find some biblical truth to which the saints for thousands of years were blind? Or were our biblical views of women gradually eroded by the modern feminist movement that has infiltrated the Church...? - R.C. Sproul "


I think you all need to read this:

Subject: The Apostles and the Head Covering Seminar Dream - A Must read !!

On Monday, 05 August 2013, before 6am I had a dream.
In the dream I was attending a seminar titled " Head Covering" Seminar.
Standing in the congregation was myself and four other women, in front of me. I didn't turn back to see if there were any women standing behind me.
We were all standing and paying attention to the facilitators of the seminar, who were all standing on the pulpit.
Inside the building looked like a church and had modern electrical light fixtures.
The facilitators of this seminar were all the Apostles of old.
The main facilitator was a bold man, and he was of a huge stature, compared with the rest of the Apostles. They were all men.
In my spirit's understanding during my dream, I understood that Apostles James, John ,Paul, Peter, Nathaniel, Andrew, Timothy and all of Jesus' Apostles were the ones standing on the pulpit. They had ancient clothes on, and guess what ? they all had stern looks on their faces. None of them was smiling.
Their spokesperson -this same bold man- spoke to me and the other four women, thus:
" it seems that the women in your generation are confused on how to properly cover their heads in church".
I was shocked ! Because even in my dream, I knew who I was, I knew my name, I knew I lived in the 21st century, I knew what year it was - 2013 -, I knew that I lived in Australia, and I knew that almost all the churches in Australia and the Western world don't encourage their female church goers/ female Christians to practice the head covering tradition anymore.
In fact, most Christians in these end times would despise and/or pick disputes with female Christians who choose to cover their hair for religious reasons.

So in the dream I said to myself that " what am I hearing and what am I seeing ? Is this a joke or what ?"

The main speaker was saying that this is not a matter to be taken lightly, and that a woman's hair should be covered with a head covering in such a way that her hair must not be revealed to the exterior, while she is in church.


He said that half-covering of the head was not allowed. It was as if this Apostle read my mind, because I was just about to raise my hand and ask him if partial head-covering was allowed. Then he called one of us women from the congregation and gave a demonstration on how the Christian woman's head should be properly covered in church.
He courteously offered her a chair to sit on, then he took a scarf and gently tied it on her head.

Oh yes !! he tied a scarf on this sister's head, exactly the way the Deeper life Christian sisters in Nigeria do tie their head scarves.

When I woke up, I told my husband and children about the dream.
Then my husband said to me, that " well, they - God's messengers - have shown you something that Christians these days would call a controversy. But there's no controversy now, its been clearly revealed to you, and this has been authorised by God in His word."

So, no matter the persecution from fellow believers in Christ Jesus, I must be most unwise to draw back, after such a privileged revelation from God.

Points to ponder:

1. In this dream, the Apostles that stood on the pulpit during this Head Covering seminar, all had stern looks on their faces. I knew this matter was and is so serious that none of them was smiling.

2. In my dream, I didn't ask the main spokesman his name, he might have been Apostle Peter or Apostle Paul - the actual writer of 1 Corinthians 11.

3. In the original Greek and Hebrew Bibles, the Greek and Hebrew words that Apostle Paul used for 'Head Covering' in 1 Corinthians Chapter 11 from verses 4 to 13, are different from the Greek and Hebrew words he used for 'Covering' in 1 Corinthians Chapter 11 verse 15.


Yours sincerely in Christ Jesus.



Please see these resources:

http://www.antipas.org/books/covered/lhbc_p4.html

http://www.headcoveringmovement.com/

my brother, this generation of Christians are just strange. the holyghost has thought me why a woman should cover her hair in worship. while the op is claiming the same holyghost bthouht her not to cover her hair. my screen is bad, else I would have countered the op well..

k

plappville:
Men and women trousers are made out of the same material and with the same manufacturing process. But the gender specification is different. Same thing with the Africa Wrapper. Ask yourself, does this passage truelly forbid a woman to wear trouser or forbid an African man to tie woman wrapper? Or forbid the English men from wearing shirt? Trousers, skirts, or gowns and even wrapper were all imported cultures that African adopted from Europeans. If you discuss Deut 22: 5 from cultural point of view, u will not ve a problem but try to use your Igbo, Yoruba, Urhobo or African culture to judge others, you will be biased. Two principles should be sink in ur mind. First, the Christian should dress appropriate to his gender. This distinction, incidentally, is apparent in all cultures. Second, a believer should dress modestly. Dress in a manner that does not solicit illicit sexual interest.

so the Bible or God is foolish for placing that scripture there abi ?the truth is very bitter indeed.

ud20:
When we can no longer differentiate a church from a social gathering and all what we do in church is to just have fun.

When we can’t differentiate a choir from an HARLOT, and an usher is not different from a WAITER.

When the church is no more conducive where shall
http://hubpulpit.com/Columns/ArtMID/432/ArticleID/3077/WHEN-CHURCH-IS-NO-MORE-CHURCH-WHERE-DO-WE-GO-FROM-HERE

have you tried deeper life or the watchman?

if they are already married, then they can't quit.. if they are dating, they can quit.

2080

GoodMuyis:
2kg 2:12 - And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof.

2kg 13:14 - Now Elisha was fallen sick of his sickness whereof he died. And Joash the king of Israel came down unto him, and wept over his face, and said, O my father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof.

2kg 6:21 is even more weighty because here we see a king Calling a MOG "my father"


Lastly
1Tim 5:1-2 (KJV) Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.

Biblically this is supported, There is noting Wrong in calling them (Our Pastor) Daddy its just a mark of respect it was used in the bible as above, but what we need to be careful is the way we used it other than mark of respect and not to make them ruler of our life

good..op simply doesn't not have revelation as to why Jesus said what he said. m

playboy99:
"Yesterday an ISIS member stopped the car of a
Christian couple.
ISIS member: Are you Muslim?
Christian man: Yes, I'm Muslim.
ISIS member: If you are a Muslim, then recite a verse
of Quran.
Christian man recited a verse from the Bible.
ISIS member: Ok allah go.
Later his wife tells him: "I cannot believe the risk you
just took.
Why did u tell him that we are Muslims?
If he knew you were lying he would have killed both
of us."
"Do not worry! If they knew the Quran they would not
kill people" answered the Husband.
ISIS is not Islam, TERRORISM HAS NO RELIGION.
Kindly share it as much as you can."
#ACE

then why do they scream Allah uhakbar??

all these school I go, I still cannot make sense out of all he is saying.

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starlingslimnet:
To say the least what he wrote there is capitally unscriptural and I can prove that with a thousand and one scriptures but I Don't argue these days cos those who are destined for eternal life be deceived by post like this.

absolutely unscriptural.. It's better we don't argue with the op.

Hmm. No biblical reference

Raymondenyi:
u obviously don't or didn't understand my post.... My issue is we really don't understand what speaking in tongues mean; people speak vain words and blabbing and say they re peaking in tongues... in tongues re heavenly languages, that can be interpreted... u don't go speaking vain words and call it in tongues, jesus warned against it.

When the holy spirit baptism comes, it annoints people and manifest in different forms, not everybody has the gift and spirit of speaking in tongues; so speaking in tongues is only one of the evidence of baptism, they are many others... so let's not upturn the biblical doctrines, we re abusing the bible..m

these are two gifts. one enables you to speak another man's language which could come as a gift too but not to everybody(gift of diversity of tongues and interpretation) the other is the gift of tongues..please get your fact right.

Raymondenyi:
u obviously don't or didn't understand my post.... My issue is we really don't understand what speaking in tongues mean; people speak vain words and blabbing and say they re peaking in tongues... in tongues re heavenly languages, that can be interpreted... u don't go speaking vain words and call it in tongues, jesus warned against it.

When the holy spirit baptism comes, it annoints people and manifest in different forms, not everybody has the gift and spirit of speaking in tongues; so speaking in tongues is only one of the evidence of baptism, they are many others... so let's not upturn the biblical doctrines, we re abusing the bible..m

these are two gifts. one enables you to speak another man's language which could come as a gift too but notice everybody(gift of diversity of tongues and interpretation) the other is the gift of tongues..please get your fact right.

cherieb2:
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh we are der once again...*looking down from 20 storey building with my binaculars*..I still can't c chelsea. GGMU

lol

I don't watch man u match, because if I do dey will lose.

snrr:
mata settling the matter....

lols.

not watching man u match again until am sure van goal knows what he is doing.

Jollyjoy:
for fvck?

nop...just booking space

F

menesheh:
So that you can continue swimming in your delusion right?
No room for you this man.
We must always penetrate even if one is later secure for you in order to help lift those coaxed and indoctrinated with Roman myth. Some are desperately in need of such concious upliftment.

this is exactly what I am talking about.

I tried commenting on an Islamic thread once,i was asked to swear on some things I could hardly understand. it is not funny knowing that Muslims come on Christian threads anyhow while we can't go on theirs.. so I plead with seun today to give us our own privacy like that of the Muslim rooms... let's stage a protest abeg, enough is enough...

oga seun give us a room of our own.

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