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MrBrownJay1:
after about a week of telling them this nonsense, smart kids will simply learn and get their misbehaving in check 2 hrs ahead of his supposed arrival.

Kkings11:
But why trying to make them look bad. sometimes it's better to believe people except when they've given you reason not to

MrBrownJay1:
i believe there are many things that are wrong in what that person is doing, let alone teaching your kids that your words means NOTHING, that you cant keep with what you are saying, that you dont trust them, that you are unreliable, just to say a few...

crackhaus:
Stay triggered...
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budaatum:
Women? Pastor-teachers? Are you kidding?
Can women be "one of him"?

I kind of think that according to "one of him" women must humble themselves and learn only from "one of him". For though he believes God gives gifts, how dare any women be worthy of gifts that are greater than all of his!

Personally, I think he just refuses to learn from "one like her". But I suppose I should humble myself and let "one of him" explain one of himself!

budaatum:
Not quite true missjo. Somehow, I do not accept that one will [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A44-46&version=KJV]sell everything they have and purchase the field[/url] they believe one pearl of great price is in. But, do not take buda's word for it because "buda is not one of him".

The [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A19&version=KJV]devil also believes[/url], you see, but no one will claim satan has the Holy Spirit, because if satan had the Holy Spirit, satan would most definitely not tremble.

Those who say "Lord Lord" also believe, but it is said that they will gnash their teeth when they are told they are not known, "depart from me, ye that work iniquity" and are cast into outer darkness and into a furnace of fire.

"[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A33&version=KJV]Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness[/url]", saith the Word of the Almighty Lord God, "and all these things (including the Holy Spirit, understanding, salvation, eternal life, dwelling in the Lord's tabernacle and all other gifts the Lord gives etc) "shall be added unto you".

Smart people only sell all they have and purchase a field they have found one pearl of great price in is what I think, and not one in which they have not yet found the treasure but merely believe the treasure is in.

But do not take buda's word for it.
Remember, "buda is not one of him"!

kkins25:
thank you madam. metatron thought kkins was not a christian and didnt know about the prophecy God gave to ezekiel which of course had nothing to do with adam. it is conspicuous that the above passage is symbolic at all levels..thanks for calling his bluff.

Ihedinobi3:
As I said above, the Holy Spirit is given at the point that we receive the Gospel in faith, so that is when we all receive our spiritual gifts, although the nature of the gifts may not be apparent to us immediately or even until we reach spiritual maturity.

As for anyone receiving the pastor-teaching gift, first, it is exclusive to men, although women do receive the gift of teaching, which while similar is not exactly the same. The gift of teaching makes anyone who has it able to communicate the doctrines of the Bible very clearly to others so that they can understand the Bible, but pastor-teaching carries unique authority that is shared by no other extant gift in the Church.

To answer your question directly, this is what the Bible says:

[7]But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ's gift.
[11]And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers...
Ephesians 4:7,11 NASB

[1]Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware.
[4]Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[5]And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord.
[6]There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.
[7]But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
[8]For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit;
[9]to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
[10]and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues.
[11]But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills.
[12]For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ.
[13]For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
[14]For the body is not one member, but many.
[15]If the foot says, "Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.
[16]And if the ear says, "Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.
[17]If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?
[18]But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired.
[19]If they were all one member, where would the body be?
[20]But now there are many members, but one body.
[21]And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; or again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."
[22]On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary;
[23]and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable,
[24]whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked,
[25]so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.
[26]And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
[27]Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.
[28]And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.
[29]All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?
[30]All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?
1 Corinthians 12:1,4-30 NASB

That is to say, not everyone can be a pastor-teacher, even if they wanted to be. We are each of us exactly what God wants us to be, and that is what matters. It is the Lord's Choice what gift we will have and be to the Church, not ours. Our business is to choose how we will use the gift we are given - whether to honor the Lord by using it to the best of our ability to serve the Church or whether to dishonor Him by refusing to use it at all perhaps because we wish we were given some other gift.

Each gift is important, necessary, and critical to the development of the Church. It is true that some are more critical than others, in a manner of speaking. For example, there are only Twelve Apostles. They form the foundations of the Church. Without them, according to God's Plan, there would be no Church. There were more prophets throughout history than Apostles, true, but even for all that, prophets were always a handful in the Church. The Scriptures were written by only prophets and Apostles. So, basically, the Church is built on the words of these two offices. Teachers are the third in line in authority. They are the only office among the three that is still extant in the Church, but like the other two, they are the scarcest gift in the Church (a more correct translation of 1 Corinthians 24:12 demonstrates this), but they are the only ones with the ability to bring the words of the Apostles and prophets home to other believers in a way that enables them to grow spiritually and become more confident in their faith in the Lord.

Even so, no Apostle, prophet, or teacher could function meaningfully without the help and support of other members of the Church. Without the evangelist, there would be no new believer to teach. Without the giver, there would be too much pressure from life for many of these men to flourish. Without the encourager, they would very likely flag in zeal. It goes on and on. We all need each other, even if only a few of us are placed in extremely sensitive positions.

In the end too, we are all fighting for the same exact rewards. No one is disadvantaged by their gifting. So, the three crowns are just as available to the "simple" giver as they are to the "great" Apostle. One is no better positioned to win them than the other. And they both win them the same way: by serving fellow believers in a way that helps them progress in the Truth and by helping willing unbelievers come into the Faith too. Also, although people like pastor-teachers, for example, have a harder path of preparation for ministry, every believer has the exact same spiritual responsibility to the Lord: seek the Truth from a qualified teacher, learn it, believe it, apply it to your life, and help others who are willing to do the same (this help is what is called ministry). This is true regardless what gift we have.

Although I think you still have quite a road in front of you, it seems to me like you do have the gift of teaching. That is a much greater responsibility than you may appreciate at the moment. Since you are a woman, you will not be a pastor-teacher, yes, but you will still be responsible for others with respect to doctrinal purity and respect for the Truth. So, while all believers ought to be striving for greater and greater sanctification in their thoughts, words, and actions, you will find that you will have even more responsibility to be exemplary in what you think, say, and do, for the sake of those believers (especially fellow women and children, but certainly not excluding men) that the Lord will bring to you to help. And the time is extremely short now.

MuttleyLaff:
Of course, your greatest Teacher, afterall is the Spirit of Truth, aka Holy Spirit, even Holy Ghost, who guides you into all truths. If anyone of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all, without finding fault, and it will be given to you. That promise is courtesy of James 1:5 missjo.

MuttleyLaff:
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Human skin came later, even apocrypha books and the Quran attests to this missjo. Even Yorubas too say: "human beings are clothes"
I have work to go to,this moment, so will revert back in the PM, say anytime after 3-4pm, OK?

genq:
Ew! There's nothing "beautiful" about a woman who lacks bladder control so she URINATES all over your sheets whilst acting ike she's just had an "orgasm"

Too bad many guys are deceived into thinking they've hit the spot when in fact, she was just too lazy to make her way to the bathroom

Sad truth is, many women cannot and will never achieve orgasm through intercourse. Nothing takes a woman there faster than a vibrator on her cl!t.

crackhaus:
Local man needs to find out if he should change the sheets na

Ihedinobi3:
I think I understand your position. I was hoping only to strengthen it. That is what I will also do here:


It's not that we learn from each other. It is that we all learn from pastor-teachers. Pastor-teachers rely on other believers for lots of things including prayers, material support, spiritual encouragement, etc, but they are the ones that others lean on to learn what the Bible says, because of their unique gifting to not only see connections in the Bible, but also to communicate them clearly to others.

MuttleyLaff:
Oh yeah, is Job now there making reference to our human skin, the one God fashioned from the dust of the earth, hmm? It's OK, it's alright then. lol.

MuttleyLaff:
missjo fyi, lol

Ihedinobi3:
For what it's worth...

[16]I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
[17]that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
John 14:16-17 NASB

[9]I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours...
John 17:9 NASB

I wouldn't say that the Holy Spirit is "unto all," if I'm understanding you correctly at all. He is a Gift to the Church to celebrate the Session of Christ in Heaven with the Father. He does convict the world of sin and righteousness and judgment, especially through the Gospel that believers proclaim (see Acts 2:37, for example), but He is not a gift to the world.

As for His Role in teaching us the Truth, He is the One Who empowers pastor-teachers to teach and enables all willing believers who obey the Truth to learn, so the idea that because we all possess the Holy Spirit, nobody ought to submit to pastor-teachers is not only ludicrous but also unscriptural.

Finally, yes, budaatum is not a believer at all. He/she says that him/herself. You can ask him/her too, if you want. So, you should be careful with him/her.

Edited.

MuttleyLaff:
"You clothed me with skin and flesh, and knit me together with bones and sinews."
- Job 10:11 Berean Study Bible

"Didn't you dress me in skin and flesh and weave me together with bones and tendons?"
- Job 10:11 GOD'S WORD® Translation

The Valley of Dry Bones
"¹The hand of the LORD was upon me, and He brought me out by His Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones.
²He led me all around among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, and indeed, they were very dry.
³Then He asked me, “Son of man, can these bones come to life?”
“O Lord GOD,” I replied, “only You know.”
⁴And He said to me, “Prophesy concerning these bones and tell them: ‘Dry bones, hear the word of the LORD!
⁵This is what the Lord GOD says to these bones: I will cause breatha to enter you, and you will come to life.
⁶I will attach tendons to you and make flesh grow upon you and cover you with skin. I will put breath within you so that you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.’”
⁷So I prophesied as I had been commanded. And as I prophesied, there was suddenly a noise, a rattling, and the bones came together, bone to bone.
⁸As I looked on, tendons appeared on them, flesh grew, and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. "
- Ezekiel 37:1-8

kkins25, not many like you can see the dots, join the dots and to connect them to get the obscured picture, wink wink

liberalchick:
For the Zillionth time NO sex change. How can there even be a sex change when the boy has not gone through puberty? If there will be a sex change it will be when the boy is of age and can decide for himself.

nairalandposter:
Do you have any suggestions on how people can utilize their free time in order not to allow it to turn nuisance value?

crackhaus:
Lol, no wonder

The quantity of that liquid is usually too much to be something else other than urine, but weirdly enough it still does not smell like urine.

sisisioge:
For such an interesting topic, you should try hard to make it short

Fountainofyouth:
I've always known that squirting nonsense is pure urine, how will someone reach orgasm and be peeing, doesn't follow rara, but Op, your research only state orgasm as a white milky substance, what of the slimy transparent liquid that comes out during orgasm?

Ihedinobi3:
Hello missjo.

It is indeed true that it is only the Lord that has all the answers, but I think it is important to caution you against the common falsehood that nobody then is qualified to teach the other, that we are all equally capable of discerning the Truth for ourselves. That is a terrible error.

No pastor-teacher is perfect (James 3:2). But it is not only a possibility, but also a mandate that we ought to grow to spiritual maturity, at which point we are supposed to be able to "tell our right hand from our left" spiritually, and it is the job of pastor-teachers to help us all grow up to this point. From 1 Corinthians 1-3 at least, we know that there are believers who are in essential infancy, spiritually speaking, and there is a point in spiritual development called "maturity," where believers can communicate in "God's secret wisdom...that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began." As Paul puts it, this wisdom is such that

9...Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1 Corinthians 2:9-10 KJV

This is what we should all be straining for: the appreciation of this wisdom that the Lord has packaged for us in the Bible. Paul assures us that when we are taught, we will no longer be like children who are tossed around by all sorts of philosophies, ideas, and teachings (Ephesians 4:11-14). That is, we would know with certainty what is true and what isn't.

Of course, that is not the same thing as "knowing it all," and as long as we are still in this flesh, we cannot appreciate every last detail of biblical teaching. We won't know it all, not until the Resurrection (1 Corinthians 13:12; 1 John 3:2), however, maturity is a threshold that we can all attain to, if we want. It is a point at which the full system of biblical truth becomes clear to you, and you are no longer susceptible to lies, at least, it will take the enemy a lot more to deceive you than it did when you were yet "carnal."

As I think I have essentially demonstrated to you before, this attainment to maturity is not automatic. It takes work. You have to be diligent, not only in reading the Bible, but also in submitting to a Bible-teaching ministry and learning from one (just one) pastor-teacher whom you have tested and proved to be true to the Scriptures, believing what you learn, and applying it to your life. Only doing things this way will bring you to spiritual maturity. When you attain maturity, your own spiritual gifts will have become fully apparent, and you will be tested as to your commitment to the Truth and your love for the Church. After this, you will be put into your own specific ministry by the Lord, so that you can use whatever your unique spiritual gift is to help other believers to progress in the Truth or to help unbelievers who are willing to come into the Faith.

So, please don't labor under the delusion that we are all as good as each other and fail to take full advantage of the rare pastor-teachers that the Lord has provided to us to learn the whole realm of Bible Truth. That pastor-teachers are placed in the Church as shepherds over believers is not because they are so much better than everybody else, but they are thoroughly prepared by the Lord through a course of preparation that you may not find very desirable to pursue in order for them to be able to take care of the Lord's Sheep. A pastor-teacher not only has to grow to spiritual maturity and pass through the tests of maturity like every other believer, but he also has to learn the original languages in which the Bible was written, ancient and church history, and textual and literary criticism just to be able to teach the Bible with confidence in what he says. That is not to mention the most obvious thing: he must know the Bible like the back of his own hand. Not many of us can handle that kind of pressure, just to try to teach people who will not want to listen to him in the end. Still, a pastor-teacher does it for love of the Lord and of the Lord's Church which He loved so much that He literally died for her.

Please take all that to heart and make sure to grow up spiritually and don't limit yourself to Scriptural hobbyism, like many believers today prefer to do.

budaatum:
Missjo, according to the quoted, I am "not one of him" so don't you take my word for it, but it is indeed true that we are all equally capable of discerning the Truth for ourselves.

For Christ the Messiah did not claim he would only "send the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost from the Father in Christ name" unto some alone.

But to all those who seek, indeed shall find and "will it teach all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever Christ has said".

So do not let some make out they can be your saviour for it is the Lord God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son and the Holy Spirit that is One that is the Saviour of humankind and not some pumped up self righteous teacher who thinks he alone has God blessed!

But please, as I said, do not take my word for it, because, according to the quoted, "buda is not one of him"! The Holy Spirit will be thy guide.

MuttleyLaff:
No ooo ichuka, no ooo, no pour marijuana, put and dump inside my pocket ooo
ichuka, MuttleyLaff and Ihedinobi3's we are each and all be big bros, not leaving out missjo as big sis
Nobagar is an island of have all the answers, information and knowledge.
Nobody except God, has all the answers, is All knowing. Alleluia.

ichuka:
Hi sis,
muttleylaff and Ihedinobi3's are my big bros
I also presumed they have all the answers
Pls continue with them.

Thanks