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Kobojunkie:
I see the similarities in this particular story. I confess I didn't really have the story fresh in my mind until you posted it.

I also see something else! According to the story, the curse that Joshua laid was not in fact his, but God's, to begin with.

And this example also shows that indeed the power to curse does not belong to man, but to God. He is able to speak curses, just as He did numerous times, through His prophets but man is not able to lay a curse on another man of his own will or some personal grudge.

But this has been informative. I should probably go brush up on my old testament reading since I have not done so in years.

It's been nice chatting with you as well

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe it was the curse that did it. Given that other cities were also impacted in a similar manner, I don't believe it was the curse.

AristocraticMe:
Nice write up........ i love the first paragraph about the Adam and Sex and the Fall...... good explanation.

Kobojunkie:
Your statement assumes God gave man power to curse/bless his fellow man, but there is no evidence of this in scripture. Whether sinner or saint, there is no evidence that either has the power to bless or curse any of God's creation.
A good example would be the story of Balaam being hired to curse the people of Israel. We learn from that very story that God is the one who administers curses and blesses, not man.
Following that reveal, it is safe to assume that the power to bless and to curse are indeed not in the tongue of men. The power of life and death maybe, but not blessings and curses.

Your example with Joshua's curse on Jericho again seems a bit of a stretch just like the claim of the curse on Canaan being to blame for Israel's eventual annexation of the land of Canaan.

Kobojunkie:
Ok.
But I still don't believe that man has the ability to curse or bless that which he cannot create. I believe that power belongs to the Almighty and Him alone.

Kobojunkie:
Here's another dimension to add to this. The curse was placed on Canaan more than 500 years before The Israelites showed up in the land of Canaan.

So again, given that Canaan was not the only people enslaved by Israel, at a point i.e. it shared a fate similar to other peoples(different roots from Canaan), this surely leads away from the idea of a curse being to blame and more towards God acting as He said He would have it.

Kobojunkie:
Given the similarities between the listed peoples, how can you then say that Canaan's tragedy was definitely a result of a curse?

Kobojunkie:
The philistine country did not remain enslaved for longer than a minute though.
So, still can't be the curse. The reason for Canaans destruction seems to have more to do with their immoral ways than it does any curse. After all loo k at the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, a civilization that met similar fate as Canaan.

I don't believe it is even possible for humans to curse that which they cannot create and.

Kobojunkie:
According to the curse, they were meant to be enslaved, not destroyed.
The curse can not then be claimed as reason for Canaan's destruction.

Kobojunkie:
How was it evil?

Not too long before this man and woman had been created with all their naked glory hanging free and swinging in the wind. God declared His handiwork GOOD. Man and woman lived without shame or care for as long as they did before man sinned.

After man sinned, shame showed up, a result the knowledge, likely of evil, that man had acquired( shame has nothing to do with good). Now, God, out of pity, made cloths for man to cover man's shame of that which God declared good.

Fast forward in time to the fateful incedent with Noah getting drunk and naked. It was not Ham's fault that Noah lost the covering He used to "hide" his shame. Ham found his old man naked and called his brothers. Sure they covered Noah up believing that what they beheld was worth concealing instead.

But Noah was wrong in attempting to curse his grandson, Canaan because he didn't do nothing wrong, nor did Ham, as far as good and evil is really concerned and at that time too. He could have maybe scolded him but not curse him. Fortunately, it seems the "curse" had no real effect anyways.


Validated?

Kobojunkie:
Also, i don't believe Ham was evil. Sure he saw his father's unclothedness and spoke of it, but what he did was not evil at all, at least not in the sight of God since God did not scold him for it, only noah did, for obvious reasons.

Kobojunkie:
Was Adam's disobedience not an outward expression of Evil, which I take to mean that which is contrary to the will of God ?

Kobojunkie:
Evil came into the world through Adam for He was the one who disobeyed God by eating from the tree of "good and evil" in the beginning. As a result, his seeds were tainted by his sin, and remain that way to this day.

Iceyjayz:
Don't mind her, he's a billionaire.

cococandy:
Trump is not a billionaire

santino09:
Thought pharma Giants can't be touched.
Really sad as I was just with a Johnson and Johnson rep yesterday.

Ningen:
Your partner coercing you into having coitus & birth control failing (yes, it's not 100% effective).

You getting pregnant because your SO wouldn't marry you if you don't, thus your relationship is on the line and you're manipulated to give in.

Just trying to say, there are external factors that can impact your decision against your wishes.

bukatyne:
I don't agree with your assertion that Nigerian women are sexually repressed culturally to the extent they can't protect themselves.

Ningen:
Not entirely true.
Not when coercion and manipulation exists.

bukatyne:
Nigerian single women are culturally restricted when it comes to sex?

In this same Nigeria?

Ok.

@bold:

I totally agree with you.

petra1:
Nothing is wrong with that . It's an issue of loyalty to the vision . Aaron the high priest was moses elder brother .

Miriam the prophetess was moses elder sister

When Aaron died ,his son was chosen to be high priest. Because he was already serving with him .

But moses son was not serving with him . Rather joshua was serving moses. So Joshua took over from moses .

James jesus brother took over the from jesus.

It's an issue of loyalty. Its rather safe if if there is a willing heart to serve in the family than a stranger.

redsun:
That guy is acting like he is got a mental breakdown. Very much unlike a president of a democratic world, nevertheless, America that everybody used to look up to for pretentious decency. He is erratic, rude, abusive, threatening, unwitty and undiplomatic.

I am surprised the American president has such almost absolute power that seems like he is above the law.

Rawhumper:
And we have been drinking it.....goosh!

But it tastes good,i even rub on my hands and face.
Sex helps to smoothen my skin and i glow more whenever i have healthy sex....

To me sex is the best thing ever!

crackhaus:
Healthserve, I saw your mention.


Regarding the topic:
While it seems there is a connection to be made between education and conceited behavior in women, I certainly do not see the alternative (illiteracy/being uneducated) as the solution.

As a matter of fact, true education rests in the understanding that good character and exemplary social behaviors are very important aspects of a truly educated person.

A woman with all the degrees and certificates but without an exemplary attitude and social character, is really not fully educated to me. Same way an illiterate woman with all the exemplary social manners and attitudes, is in fact quite educated enough to me, as is.

There is a reason why the standard verbose uttered while being presented with a Bachelor's degree usually goes something like this:
"...having fulfilled the requirements of the University in character and in academics, we are pleased to..."
Something of that sort but you get the point.

Although, these words have now become taken for granted in the Nigerian educational system, but believe me when I tell you, no erudite higher-learning institution anywhere in the world will ever graduate an all A's student who has a very questionable character.
There must be a balance.

Only women who were given mushroom education see their literacy as a license for conceited behavior, and they are very easy to spot.