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If u are lucky,just a month ! If not,the guy will end up loosing his bracelet,staff and personality to the lady or guy who in turn most definitely delivers it to the devil knowingly or unknowingly ! Be wise bro. God help us |
chukwudi44: Exodus 26:1No may be after they finished building and making cherubs,they started to bow before it,worship it,hail it,praise it,call them mediator and mediatrix,call them the king of kings,call them king of heaven,call them the redeemer and savior and all the other things you guys call the mary image as you bow before it ! God help us |
chukwudi44: Even solomon the wisest king that ever lived littered his throne with carved images of lionsAs the king finished making the great ivory throne he started to bow down and worship it bah? If it's not scriptural to worship or bow down to mary and other graven image,it's not scriptural. No matter how you try to quote and twist it still will not fit becos it's not there ! You have to put it there first for it to be there ! God help us |
chukwudi44: Numbers 21:8-9Specific instruction was given to Moses to make a serpent like structure and set it up high on a pole for 'this' disobedient children of God to look up to ! A curse came upon them as a result of their disobedience and for this curse to be cleared,you MUST obey this specific instruction ! After this very incident,the bronze serpent was removed and men carried on ! God is God and can command anything at any time but when HE says NO- HIS NO IS FINAL ! Exodus 20:4-5 '' “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea. You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. '' May be you no understand this scripture by twisting it to mean condemnation for idol worship alone ! We know say the rcc worship's idol but even if they don't,See the b part where it says' u must not make for urself an idol...(May be dis one supports ur claim that it means only idol worship) It continues to say that' you must not make for urself an image of anything in heaven....(This one goes to tell us that in case we want to say the image is not an idol o,but GOD becos it resembles 'Jesus' or HIS mother Mary,it says we shouldn't even try it .He concluded that we should not bow down to HIM(GOD)in image form) But i know even after seein this,you will not change but let it be here for record purposes and until God uses it some day to draw people out of idol worship,Mary worship and also other forms of evil or sinful worship ! God help us |
A law of the Emperors Honorius and Theodosius II in the year 413 says, “If any person is convicted of having undertaken the rebaptism of a member of the Catholic Church, the one who has committed this shameful crime together with the one provided he is of accountable age who has allowed himself to be baptized shall be punished with death without mercy.” They executed the person who did the baptizing and the person who was baptized. As a result of the execution, something else would follow, the confiscation of all possessions. Quoting from 'the' writer Wormes, “Originally indeed these severe laws of the civil code were not issued for the defense of infant baptism, but were to secure the existence of the state church against rebaptism in any Christian circles. And the property of such persons was confiscated. They were branded violators of the civil law, punished by death and the loss of all property.” No wonder them hama well well ! But God is watching God help us Christians ! E don tay wey them don they persecute us using the state and the emperors ! |
chukwudi44: Mumu who told you killing is now abhored in xtianity? You kill for self defence and protection of the innocent ones.If boko haram terrorists are moving to blow up a markert as a christian security agent are you suppose to start preaching to them with your bible or move swiftly against them with your gun? I smh for ignoramuses like you. God gave an instruction against image worship and not against image veneration.do not add to the bibleI was telling some body the other day that the rcc is same as the muslims ! They use the same apocryphal books ! No wher does Christ or his disciples admonish me to go about with guns or any of it for the purpose of self defense. No wonder some one (roman catholic)told me that some of their priests have guns they drive about with in their car boots when ever ther is election in the state and they have displayed some times ! The roman catholic teaches that you can kill for self defense just like their muslim brothers ! Well,concerning veneration and worship,if i see them,i can differentiate from the two ! See below what the rcc members do for mary overtly and covertly !: great reverence, great respect,great worship, adoration, homage, exaltation, adulation, glorification, extolment, idolization, devotion; esteem, regard, high regard, praise; respectfulness, worshipfulness, submission, high deference, awe; rarelaudation, magnification All the highlighted above are what you do to Mary without fear or trying to hide in act but in words,you say veneration ! My prayer for you is that God will show you very very soon that HE does not share HIS glory with any man,not even with the 'queen of heaven' who ever this person is ! God help us |
chukwudi44: You didn't read all I wrote here or you are just been mischievous? Was it catholics that also asked moses,solomon and others to make imagesI think say na God tell David to kill during d war,tell Joshua to kill,tell Gideon to kill,tell Moses to kill and so many others in the OT to kill,but how come we(Christians) no longer kill today ? Becos there is a counter instruction to the earlier instructions in the cases where they were given ! Solomon,Moses,and David did so many things on their own that God frowned at but in the cases of images,God gave an instruction AGAINST image worship or veneration as u guys call it.But you still go ahead with it claiming it is Mary that died for you and not Christ.So,she must lead you to God! I even doubt if na the true Mary mother of Jesus na she una they worship self ! Whether the true Mary or false Mary,it is evil period.I go to people's houses and even in their cars and see it's full of images of either one baby Jesus,and one father Jesus and one mary with plate on her head and i keep wondering if you are any different from my great grand parents who also worshiped idols bein represented with carved images ! So tell me chukwudi,how will you tell ur grand pa or even my great grand pa who worships idols to destroy his idol represented by images and follow Christ ? He will only tell you that you are taking one juju from him to give him another juju ! The only difference would just be that his own is dark but urs is light i guess ! Sorry for even asking you this question.I have forgotten that the roman catholic church is still leaving in the Roman pre-christian era of syncretism (the combination of different often seemingly contradictory belief)! God help us |
Every one including the roman catholics knows that they (rcc) worship Mary,does not believe the scriptures for they hold their man made traditions high above the scriptures,and they also don't follow Christ but pretend before their own members and the world to be following Christ ! But God will soon deliver all HIS children in their grip before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ....Amen God help the innocent ones and deliver then on time in Jesus name.... Amen God help us |
italo: The Church already had images and venerated Mary and the saints before they compiled the Bible.I guess the 'church'you are talking about here with images they worship should be pagans whose images the roman catholic church borrowed and replaced with their Mary images just to integrate them into the roman catholic institution and today the rcc is finding it difficult to let go of these images for fear of criticism ! It's better they be on the good book of God than that of the world ! As for image worship and veneration as you guys call it,is no where in the bible. For it to be there,the rcc has to insert it first. But thank God they can't[b]. As for the images,loose them and let them go ![/b] God help us |
asco15: U must come to realise dat most of wat d catholic doctrine teaches was never practised by d early apostles and worst of it is dat d bible condems dos tins.We know the truth already ! Even from ur coments,we can see clearly that you are saved now by the Grace of God through the blood of Jesus. Thanks for all the information. God help us |
italo: You might or might not go to heaven. That is Catholic teaching.You see,i have to follow the teachings of the church as against the word of God for me to make it to heaven ! Even as you try to be diplomatic with coming out straight to to tell me that the roman catholic church teaches that no matter ur relationship with Christ,if you are not a roman catholic you can't go to heaven as i earlier pointed out to you not minding ur double standards as it is with the 'infallible pope' francis and ur church.But i tell you,so long as you folks dnt believe in the scriptures,you will keep making mistakes and in a bid to cover one of ur errors,you will commit another one and it goes on and on and on. God help us |
asco15: You honor her by making her images, bowing down to her images, kissing and hugging her images, offering novenas to her, dedicating the month of May nd Oct. 2 her, by praying 200 hail mary (20 decades) to her daily and by wearing her images in form of chaplets, medals and scapula on ur body, and u claimed to be honoring her. U gave her all titles in ur various litanies and sing her songs daily and u call all dat honor?If they do all the bolded above for and to Mary and call it honoring her,then for Jesus dey will have to slit their throats or may be roll on the floor of the church auditorium all their lives ! We know all these things but with time,some of them will get to know,understand and be lead out of it ! God help us |
asco15: can d mother church tell me how she introduces some practices and doctrines dat are different from the dat of d early apostles?They will ask you to go and study the book of Barnabas,eclesiaticus,acts of peter,seven books of Moses and even the quran for they are all apocryphals and same in contents ! As for the canonized books the RCC is claiming to be the one that gave it to the church,none of all those things are there except some just want to twist and twist and re twist the scriptures ! God help us all for we already know the truth ! God help us |
calculusx: How many times will you people be told we don't worship Mary? We only honor her. Do you know what it takes to be the mother of our Saviour? Of all women in her generation,she was chosen to be the mother of Christ,she deserves some respect. Do you know how many people will say sorry if mummy GO sneeze?We all are running same race but i will not see my brother James wanting to get married to John claiming he is gay and you expect me not to show him love by rebuking or reproofing him ! I used to sing the song' we are honoring Mary,we are honoring,we are honoring Mary never worship her but people are saying we are worshiping her not at all,every body join the chorus ,honor,hour Mary ! Was ignorant untill the Lord drew me closer ! See below act of devotion by Pope Francis to the statue of Mary at the Vatican st Peter square : In prayer he said, “We are confident that each of us is precious in your sight, guard our lives in your arms: bless and strengthen every desire for goodness.”[/b]He added ''revive and grow faith, sustain and illuminate hope, arouse and enliven charity, guide all of us on the path of holiness,”- I can not ask any mummy G.o or daddy G.o all of these for it is only God,His son and His spirit can do all these for Christians not mere human like Mary !We thank God for her life and for the grace upon her to be used by God. It would had been any virgin out there,even my mum but Mary was favored no doubt and that Favour never equated her to the status of our Lord Jesus Christ. Remember that Christ at one time in his ministry made it clear to all [b]that none is considered above his word not even his mother,brothers and sisters ! God will open our eyes some day ! God help us |
italo: Another lie!Why should i be lying just to prove a point that Heaven is real and that God is also for real ? Has it not been part of the teachings of the rcc that if you are not a rcc member that you will not make it into heaven ? Besides am telling you that the teachers durring my marriage course in ur institution told me all these i put up here today. Now if you doubt me,answer the below question and be very honest: 'I am not a roman catholic,i did not marry in the roman catholic church,i was not baptized in the rcc,i dnt take ur communion becos i attend a 'Pentecostal' church but i have a relationship with Christ. Will i go to heaven if Jesus comes today ? Please be honest with this one atleast ! God help us |
calculusx: It is possible for 3 people to read the same book,same text,same passage,word for word but have different meanings. We all cant reason the same way. I hope this answer your questionWhen ever we study the bible(same scripture) either separately or together and and pick up different understanding,it could either be that one studied leaving out the spirit or we both studied carnally but just be rest assured that some one is wrong for us to understand it differently ! The bible says same thing to all who study spiritually ! Even if there is a new revelation therein,it MUST not contradict other part of the scriptures ! Now concerning the scriptures you quoted up there,before i start another futile effort to convince(NOT YOU I GUESS)those who will stumble on this and will be open hearted to study spiritually,let us consider the scriptures you quoted above: Acts 16:13-15''One of them was Lydia from Thyatira, a merchant of expensive purple cloth, who worshiped God. As she listened to us, the Lord opened her heart, and she accepted what Paul was saying. She was baptized along with other members of her household, and she asked us to be her guests. “If you agree that I am a true believer in the Lord,” she said, “come and stay at my home.” And she urged us until we agreed.'' From the scripture above,we can see that this woman was already worshiping God prior her encounter with Paul. Can you also see that the Lord opened her heart first[/b]to accept the teachings before she was baptized ? Can you see that the bible never mentioned infants as part of her house hold even as it's of a truth that infant can also be part of a house hold. Now to tell you that it was all matured teachable and 'learnable' are the ones that were baptized,see above the criterion(acceptance of the teachings first)for baptizing Lydia ! Had it been that infants were allowed to baptized even before the meeting of Lydia,she would have been baptized long ago as an infant before meeting Paul since the bible recorded in this same account that Lydia was a worshipper before encountering Paul ! Have we also noted that in this very Lydia case that her heart was opened in response to hearing the gospel and [b]she believed and those who heard with her in her house believed. There are no children mentioned. In fact, there’s no husband mentioned, and if there’s no husband mentioned, very possible she didn’t have any children. Acts 16:33 ! Lets take it back a little;Acts 16:29-33 ''The jailer called for lights and ran to the dungeon and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas.Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household.” And they shared the word of the Lord with him and with all who lived in his household. Even at that hour of the night, the jailer cared for them and washed their wounds. Then he and everyone in his household were immediately baptized.'' From the above,again we can see why everyone in his house hold were baptized. They were all[/b]instructed to believe in the word and be saved. No man believed for the other but they all believed for themselves !The writer said believe in the lord Jesus along with everyone in ur house hold and you will be saved ! It concluded that and they shared the word with him and ALL IN HIS HOUSE HOLD ! It's synanimus with the teachings of our beloved Peter in Acts 2:38''“[b]Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'' Peter isn't referring to babies or infants hear but to those who can actually repent becos they have sinned ! Not infants ! 1 Corinthians 1:16 In the Stephanas household of 1 Corinthians, all who were baptized, it says, 1 Corinthians 1, all who were baptized were devoted to the ministry of the saints. Compare that in 1 Corinthians 15. They were all helping in the spiritual work of the church as we have in 1 Corinthians 1:16. They were devoted to the ministry of the saints. They were helping in the spiritual work of the church. Therefore they weren’t infants. No infant was mentioned there.Just like the other cases discussed above ! The explanations above should just be okay for those who want to learn,but if you are in for an argument,nothing i put up here will make you believe except God draws you ! For this is another ending case like the Mary Worship ! God help us all |
Sal C: Let him alone? Was I disturbing him?If i'm not a roman catholic i won't make it into heaven How can people believe stuffs like this !God help us |
Sal C: Enigma my seperated brother.He is gone gone for good. Let him alone ! God help us |
italo: Hail Mary, full of gracemary mother of Jesus pray for them sinners now and at the hour of their death ! I once ignorantly said these things in the past ! Thank God i'm saved now By HIS grace. But i pray we all get saved some day ! God bless us |
italo: Have we finished with the issue of intercession?No matter what you tell an atheist concerning God,heaven and hell,he will still laugh and laugh at you untill he falls off his seat ! God delivered us from Catholicism and will still deliver many more today,tomorow and in future ! So continue with ur Mary worship for it is God who will eventually draw you to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith ! God help us |
italo: Please supply evidence of the bold...that we might know who the liar is.Why should i be lying ? I got married to a roman catholic. I did the 4 months marriage course and i can tell you more of the things i heard from the teachers there ! Besides, we can see the evidences from ur coments and that of other rcc members on line ! God help us all |
Enigma: So if "catholic" means universal body of believers, then my little fellowship of five people who believe in Jesus Christ is also part of the catholic Church, is it not?Roman catholic's meaning of catholic isn't universally believing in Christ but universally believing in the rcc doctrine which is very clear to all even the roman catholics as contrary to the bible ! It is only the rcc i know who claim to be Christians and tell me they do not believe in scriptures as written in the bible ! God help us |
italo: According to you, it is a sin to ask anyone to pray for you. It doesnt matter how you say it. Jesus wants you to go to him directly.I can see now that it is with lies and misquoting that you try to correct people ba ? God help us all God help me |
chidachris: 2. So which church was founded on peter? Catholic? Methodist? Anglican? Penticostal or which?The church of Christ that knows no denomination ! All godly denominations are the church of Christ ! God will pick from all of the churches scattered abroad ! No one will be picked based on his denomination ! The church of Christ was founded By Christ himself and he asked peter then to teach the rest after he has been fully fed ! I laugh sometimes wen i hear people saying peter is the first pope of the rcc and i laugh at much ignorance ! Peter the first pope yet he was married ! Peter the first pope yet he never prayed the rosary one day ! Peter the first pope yet he never baptized any infant ! Peter the first pope yet he never prayed to God through Mary at any time ! Peter the first pope yet he never stopped any one who took bread(body of Christ) from taking the wine(blood of Jesus)! Peter the first pope yet he never said some believing Christians are saint and the rest believers are not. peter the first pope yet he never said some christians are priest and the rest are not ! Peter the first pope yet he never stopped any bishop from getting married ! Peter the first pope yet he never worshiped or bowed down to any image whatsoever ! Peter the first pope yet he never sprinkled any believer and call it baptism ! May be after the death of the 'first pope of the rcc' things drastically changed ! God will continue to help us untill we all leave the roman catholic institution ! God help us |
italo: But you said it is ignorance to ask anyone to pray for you.See my quote below and know when you have sinned especially if you do the highlighted : ''If i want you ukut gp to pray for me, i dnt think i will start by worshiping,praising,adoring,hailing,bowing or even equating you with Christ ! If i do all that,it will only mean i am praying to you and not wanting you to intercede on my behalf ! Some times i urge some of my brothers or even sisters to pray with me concerning an issue and one can also ask his/her pastor to pray for him but not to start hailing the pastor,praising the pastor,worshiping the pastor,equating the status of the pastor to Christ as in calling him 'a mediator or mediatrix',or the creator of the heavens and earth or even the great king or queen of heaven '' God help us |
Ukuts gp: so if i am making intercessary prayer for you. What name will i use. My pastor's name or the name of Jesus? Answer me.If i want you ukut gp to pray for me, i dnt think i will start by worshiping,praising,adoring,hailing,bowing or even equating you with Christ ! If i do all that,it will only mean i am praying to you and not wanting you to intercede on my behalf ! Some times i urge some of my brothers or even sisters to pray with me concerning an issue and one can also ask his/her pastor to pray for him but not to start hailing the pastor,praising the pastor,worshiping the pastor,equating the status of the pastor to Christ as in calling him 'a mediator or mediatrix',or the creator of the heavens and earth or even the great king or queen of heaven ![]() God help us |
italo: I see you want us to deviate entirely from the topic of the thread.I dnt play the attacking game ! But I'M very sure of correcting anyone who is bein mislead by others just like you pointed out earlier. I know for sure there is no perfect church,rather we are trying to be perfect and the holy spirit will help us to get to that level ! As for the roman catholic church,i know where i place them and will continue to help the ones around me untill the holy spirit perfect them all ! God help us |
italo: Good. Mary and I believe that you can only go to the Father through Jesus. That is why I say Mother Mary, please let me go with you to JESUS so that I can get to the Father through him. God help us all !God help us |
italo: What manner of love is it that lets you watch your brothers wallow in error that might be detrimental to their souls?Your above is just perfect for pope Francis concerning gays ! He should tell the gays,atheists including Muslims the truth and not by hiding under the cover of 'Love message' and 'j[b]udge not[/b]' making the world a better place to go to hell from ![]() God help us |
@Zikky quote''Jesus will did not condemn anybody for adhering to the law of moses. so there's no reason for him to condemn tithe. did any Jew tithe his/her salary? did any Jew tithe his allowance (a.k.a pocket money) if they did am very sure Jesus would have condemned it, but they didn't. So you understand why Jesus did not condemn tithe, there was nobody engaging the modern day version of tithing.'' If i may ask,do you think there were as much bankers,shippers,oil industry workers,architects,town planners and the likes of all the predominantly modern workers and biznesses as we have them today back then in Jesus' time ? Men were predominantly farmers and they gave tithe in that line ! Besides who told you they never tithed stuffs other than cassava and yam Go study ur bible you will find out that men tithed gold,silver and even iron related materials ! When Jacob tithed or vowed to tithe of all that he possess,who told you that all he had was just vegetables and coco-yam! He gave a tithe of all that was given to him ! If God gives me cassava,i will tithe in cassava ! If he gives me veggies,i will tithe in vegies,if he gives me cows,i will tithe in cows,if goat,i do it in goats,if mushrooms,i do it in mushrooms and if cash,i will tithe in ...... Fill in for me Zikky please! Now who said i can't spiritually use cash to represent my vegetable and life stock blessings ? If he could receive Gold,silver and iron materials ,then he can accept my naira and dollars ! It depends on ur understanding bro ! Or you think God eats vegetables and coco yams ? But he can distribute it to the 'havenots' and can also instruct or inspire the distribution of my tithes along the lines it can be most effectively used for the furtherance of the gospel !God help us |
Zikkyy: you are not tithing to support the gospel, stop deceiving yourself.How come you are the one telling every one the reason they tithe ? Since you say i am not tithing to support the work of God,then i should say i tithe becos i wan to support the work of the devil ![]() God help us |
Zikkyy: Lol! all i wanted was for you to tell me who Abbie tithed to since you say he disappeared after collecting the war boot.y. Here you are telling me i don't need to know what God does with our tithe. Anyways also answer my question on how you give the tithe directly to God.If you tithe to Christ,who do you expect HIM to tithe to ? Abraham tithed to Melchizedek (Jesus)who can decide to do what ever pleases HIM with the tithe ! Since the bible never said anything concerning what HE did with the tithe,he does what ever pleases HIM with our tithes ! It's possible HE gave it out having presented it before HIS father God Almighty ! To tithe to God is presenting it in HIS presence via his earthly representatives with heart full of thanks and praises out of Love to show appreciation for what HE has done and still doing in ur life ! It's like ur offerings and other seeds like the sacrifices of praise ! He does what pleases HIM with ur tithe. Don't drop ur tithe in the tithe box and stare at it all the way as it's taken in for counting ! The tithe might be rejected by God but sure may be used by men !God help us |
Its a sign of respect and not worshipping her. Believe what ever you want to believe, we are all running the same race of making heaven.
but Mary was favored no doubt and that Favour never equated her to the status of our Lord Jesus Christ. Remember that Christ at one time in his ministry made it clear to all [b]that none is considered above his word not even his mother,brothers and sisters ! 
