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Olu317:
Permit me to emphasise, here that you didnt or havent derail the thread. So, your questions are inline with the deities.

1 . The most relevant or should I posit here that the most referenced account being mentioned is "One of the most important events in ancient Ife history with respect to both the early arts and later era religious and political traditions here was a devastating civil war pitching one group, the supporters of Obatala (referencing today at once a god, a deity pantheon, and the region’s autochthonous populations) against
affiliates of Odudua (an opposing deity, religious pantheon, and newly arriving dynastic group). Art in Ancient Ife; Birthplace of the Yoruba; Suzanne Preston Blier p.p 70, Vol. 45

The Ikedu oral history text addressing Ife’s history (an annotated kings list transposed from the early Ife dialect; Akinjogbin n.d.) indicates that it was during the reign of Ife’s 46th king—what appears to be two rulers prior to the famous King Obalufon II (Ekenwa)—that this violent civil war broke out. This conflict weakened the city enough so that there was little resistance when a military force under the conqueror Oranmiyan arrived in this historic city. 1992. “Th e Phenomenon of Oduduwa in Ife. History.” In The Cradle of a Race (Ife From the Beginning to 1980), ed. I.A. Akinjogbin, pp. 62–76. Port Harcourt: Sunray Publications.

It is a fact that the above quote by Susan Blier is from Professor Akinjogbin'saccount that pegged the time of Oranmiyan asscending the throne as number 46th (when he and obalufon Ii) when struggle over the throne betweenOduduan and Obatalas disagreed.

If you do your calculation based on this current information ,then the total numbers will be 97 kings.
Although, Oyo's accounts mentioned names , such as Olùáṣọ, Pẹká etc, in "Yorubas, The lost tribe of Isreal" Dierk Lange (2004Lange ( , 2009Lange ( , 2011aLange ( , 2011bLange ( , 2011c,) . But still remained inconclusive. Thus, the names of these kings may have been lost to antiquities, because traces of these kings are not found in Ileife.(I stand to be corrected)



2.Nupe aren't Yorubas.i.e Obatalas.And these people do not speak any variation or corrupt Yoruba dialects.
Although Yoruba people did married these people and assimilated some, whom are of Tapa origin;Nupe. You, see facial marks found on Yorubas are also found on some Hausas breed, Kanuri,Ichi marks of the Ibos often Nri men, some Sudanese known as (Hadandawa) etc. Although there lived a people of Copts origin in Sudan live mostly in northern cities, including Al Obeid, Atbara, Dongola, Khartoum, Omdurman, Port Sudan, and Wad Medani. They number up to 500,000, or slightly over 1% of the population who speak coptic language as litturgy; corrupt version of Yorubas as being spoken in North and South Americas.



In between, I hope you are a bit satisfied.


Cheers

Thanks for the response. I am just interested in pre-Oduduwa history of Ife

Olu317:
You try........post something that mentioned any of the renowned deity. Let me be but proof you are a worthy son of Yorubaland.

This is a Yoruba historical deities thread and not Hebrew and Yoruba perspective. So,don't derail it. O yá, proof you are worthy son.


Unlike you, I don't rant sir because monikers here can testify to it, even if my research look beyond their comprehension,which I blame them not since, my work is yet to be documented. So it will naturally look awkward. Seriously, I am dealing with it.

But what can we posit about you? Least I forget, you bullied Edos even if Oramiyan actually went overthere. And this same man came back to Ileife to reign. But are you aware that Owodo as a name was a prince in Ileife; one of the ancestor of Ooni Abelewa? You see, I am not like you and can't be.

Sorry to take you off the topic of this thread.
1. Do you have list of of the 97 kings that ruled before Obatala?

2. Is it true that Nupe tribe is an offshoot of Obatala?

Thanks in advance, brother

Ah!

Na so. It is summer time gradually. No need for warmth

It is known fact that we have dysfunctional curriculum design culture. A student should be a co-leaner cum traveller with his teacher to learn together. Unfortunately we don't have our curriculum designed that way. Eebu a lo ni ti ijapa, abo ni to ana ijapa.

You can't hold meaningful conversation with an average young Nigerian before they drift because it is hard for most to get the drill of critical thinking.

shariff84:
finally,I got the natural dry catfish for you @ cheap price of 250 naira per one,that's the pictures below. I bought the below one today for my personal consumption @ 5k all and its 20 pieces.I will soon open a thread for selling original dry catfish from the river in nairaland.thanks

Great. Please open thread and let me know. Thanks

boyjo:
If the voice note is true?
A voicenote sent by INI herself to her friend wey her friend publish For twitter wey make them catch the Uduak??

Voicenote wey start the whole tory??

I didn't know that.

3lovelyflowers:
This guy must be in VIP cell. Look how he is still fresh.

I guess there is a cover-up if the voice not is true. His confession earlier today seemed to be a cooked up story he had been prepped to tell the world. His father's body language suggests that that was what his son was told to say. So sad

habsydiamond:
Soon some people will be insulting the government for this... This greediness problem is everywhere in this country... To clean this country of corruption we must first of all check ourselves we the masses... After that then the government..

Yes, government should be blamed for having ineptitude agencies that are responsible for surveillance. The last time I checked, Civil Defense supposed to be securing critical infrastructure.

Well... some animal are more equal than others.

So sad.

WorstWanderland:
who is first man that married two wives in the Bible

Lamech
Married Adah and Zillah

WorstWanderland:
take note! paul didn't just refused the ideal of mark following them for nothing sake or because he don't wants him to,

but it is because mark had earlierly abandoned them somewhere (probably in time of trouble) when they where preaching the gospel(together with mark)

Beyond that there was an undercurrent. Barnabas had in a way been Paul's mentor ( I said in a way with intention). Barnabas would have wanted to exert his authority to take Mark along being an earlier convert before Paul and having been the person that first associated himself with Paul against all odds.

The lesson here is that mentee can be used by God above the mentor in spiritual matter.

Unfortunately, Barnabas became weaker and was rebuked by the same Paul of his hypocritical tendencies ( Gal 2:11ff)

Matheusmartin:
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Since God is omnipresent and omnipotent, don't you think he already knew a day like that would come??

Sure He knows in my thinking. Unfortunately, the difference between man and angel is man's opportunity to repent. Angels from what is known about them are not permitted to repent. During my Theodicy class, so many questions were asked that the prof could not answer such as you are asking.

Things not known shall be made known in the fullness of time

Matheusmartin:
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If he acts with God permission he's certainly not the bad guy, is he?

Created an angel but to seek to usurp power with a third of the host of heaven ( angels probably in his legion) was an aberration.

Matheusmartin:
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Meaning he acts with God's permission right?

He is not responsible for the bad stuffs around, is he?

Yes. However, he is limited with the permission given to him. A case was when God flaunted Job's uprightness and he accused Job of being favoured by God sort of. He sought for permission to ' touch him' which was granted with a caveat of Job's life. Anyway, he lost the battle

WorstWanderland:
what does it mean?

Son of sorrow I guess. I don't want to be tempted to check up in the Bible

Matheusmartin:
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Does Satan act independently?

No...he is still an angel that still has access to the presence of God Job1:1. He only lost his eternal position as one of archangels

WorstWanderland:
correct.


what was the name given to benjamin by rachel before she died?

Benoni

WorstWanderland:
how many sons did Gideon had?

A 10

B. 20

C. 30

D. 40

E. 50

F. 60

G. 70

H. 80

I. 90

J. 100

70 sons who rode on donkeys

WorstWanderland:
Am Ready To Answer Any Question

Ask As Many As You Can

Ask As Many As You Want

Ask As Many As You Know

But Strictly Biblical

corrections and contributions are allow and welcome

What is the name of the city Mayor that hosted Paul after his ship wreckage experience on his way to Rome?

OkCornel:
Mahershalalashbaz. Not sure I even spelt it well, lol. You’re right on the book though, it’s in Isaiah.

Maher-shalal-hash-baz

WorstWanderland:
i know it is in the book of isaiah but i've frogotten it

Isaiah 8

I know it but won't type the answer

Trash...each time I see " must see in Abuja" and there is absence of National Library that is situated between National Christian Center and National Mosque that has been under construction for decades...I feel sorry for my country Nigeria.

WorstWanderland:
JESUS MOSES ELIJAH

Those were recorded account. There could be more who did. I suspect John could have too

Racoon:
Need more clarification because I have always known the house Samuel Ajayi Crowder used in translating the English Bible into Yoruba @ Badagry Lagos as the first story building in Nigeria.

I have always question the veracity of Badagry building being first story building in Nigeria. What about the rampart built around some ancient empires of precolonial Nigeria that has place of abode for keeping sentry by warriors against invading empires. The truth about our history is that we are too lazy to make inquest into our beautiful past.

Romanoff:
Nigeria now has three capitals. One in Chad, one in Niger and the administrative capital is Abuja.

Who do us this thing?

Those who branded him and sold him to the electorate for their pecuniary gains.

After all, Bosun Emmanuel was right!

A terrorist parting another terrorist's back?

RealLordZeus:
I actually don't know whether to congratulate or pity him!

Local man is confused

O pada si ese aro re ni

Something must kill a man

NOwazobia:
They have to kill him, as they realised many fingers will be burnt, because he was just a front to the crime.

Yeah! What a perfect script for a storyline.