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Something about this woman's economics just doesn't add up. Sadly, Buhari is the type who doesn't sack or redeploy appointees. They just go on auto cruise till a 4-year tenure is over. Sadly!

Abbeylanre15:
Hmmmm.... I will consider this

This looks Good, except that the Madam might decide to clear everyone including you, unless you find a way to let her know it came from you.

There is nothing wrong in exposing a thief. A thief is a thief.

Someone employed based on trust to quietly look on as the damage continues? Where then is the fear of God that we Nigerians often like to proclaim?

Fabulouzjoseph:
For me minding your business is the best.
Na thief they know im fellow thief you might incriminate yourself while trying to report them

I have seen where people put their self in trouble for trying to help others.

in simi's voice: mind your business wether you no like am mind your business.

Leo3333:
Which Jagaban?
Mtcheew!

Jagaban of Africa!

History555:
In the run up to 2023 both the south west and north west cannot present any candidates because sw has had 8 years as both president and vice president. The same goes for the north west they hve had 10 years president and 6 years vice president.
Therefore only SE, SS, NE, NC should contest for that election. This is the best way to promote equity

Una no dey shame? Go and check Jonathan's fresh air campaign of 2011 which was based on the fact that rotation was dead and buried. Jonathan contesting in 2011 ended rotation for good. Bye bye rotation.

Jagaban 2023. No going back.

All this na story. When will this war end, I mean come to a full stop. Not all this tactical one step forward two steps backwards

ogbonti:
since you don’t want to see reasons, and you are hell bent on comparing statistically insignificant occurrences like the earnings of corrupt politicians in Nigeria to Professors in Nigeria, then let me school you a bit. The salary of a US congressman is $174,000 a year basic. Is there any professor in the US that earns that much? I seriously doubt except you are top of the top 5% of Ivy League tenured professors with decades of track records in research and development. So stop the whining my guy, if a professor is tired of earning N340,000 a month inside Nigeria, which I think is decent judging by the Nigerian economic environment, then let such professor resign and go into politics. Ben Ayade was a professor at Delta State University Abraka before he became Cross River State Governor. So because Ayade became Governor, should every professor in Nigeria be made Governors ? nah, life doesn’t work that way.

Lastly if you think wages are unfair- what about players in football clubs in Europe? one team
mate is earning $400,000 a week, another player in same team is earning $60,000 a week and they both play 90 minutes and train equal time at the club facility. probably all the goals scored by the guy making 400k a week must be supplied by the work horse who earns 60k a week. so should the less earner quit ? I LEAVE THAT QUESTION TO EVERYONE READING THIS RESPONSE FROM ME

In conclusion - wages are subject to many factors beyond what the layman can see and understand and if you want to up your value, go improve yourself, search other places and negotiate individually and make it better and don’t generalize.

God bless you, Bye!

And to argue that all professors who want more pay should abandon our institutions and join politics, says a lot about your own type of yoot.

Anyway, since you love statistics, from your figures a US congressman earns 174,000 annually, meaning 14,500 per month. An average US professor earns 5,500 per month, i.e. 38% of the earning of a congressman.

A Nigerian professor earns 340k per month i.e less than 1.4% of the earning of a Nigerian legislator.

Since you like statistics, pls use calculation to prove that the difference between 38% and 1.4% is not statistically significant. Oya!

Mr Statistics, we are waiting. Don't dodge o. Don't deviate. Don't run away.

Greedy people. As if they are not the ones that started the mess.

Szkpytqgdcvx925:
But you are not the I quote
I am not trying to defend Buhari but why is the guy bringing gej into discussion as if he is anything better, that is why I gave him some examples that under gej also Nigeria borrow to pay salaries.


This is what he said

The previous administration of GEJ was not perfect & had its shortcomings but Nigeria was seeing a certain level of progress & unity. Then, an old retired general who is a known jihadist, a coupist, an illiterate, a former failed leader arose from his retirement home, came & said he can CHANGE Nigeria.

Guy there was no certain level of progress and unity in anything. Let's not twist our history pls and mislead you get ones. Jonathan failed and Buhari, based on expectations, has also failed woefully. Both have failed. Let's not glorify a past failure because of an ongoing one.

wax101:
Baba everybody eye don clear.. Jonathan seemed to have failed before people voted in Buhari but right now, even the blind knows that Buhari is not even fit to be a gate man. comparing the 2 administration is GEJ98%:buhari2%

Still don't spin that here. It is this same mentality that makes us honour mediocrity. Jonathan failed, Buhari took over and failed. That Buhari's candle is dim does not make Jonathan's dim candle bright. Dim na dim.

Btw, comparison of the extent of failures are still debatable on who has failed more. But we should not waste people's time on that empty argument. That the difference between Buhari's performance and that is Jonathan can be debated automatically means that Buhari has failed. And if based on expectations, he has failed woefully. But that doesn't in anyway make Jonsthan and his crowd heros. We still know our past.

wax101:
Nigeria will ONLY become a great nation if her citizens elect their leaders without ethnic and religious sentiments.
The previous administration of GEJ was not perfect & had its shortcomings but Nigeria was seeing a certain level of progress & unity. Then, an old retired general who is a known jihadist, a coupist, an illiterate, a former failed leader arose from his retirement home, came & said he can CHANGE Nigeria.
Sadly, the consequences of the decision Nigerians made in 2015 due to ethnicity and tribalism is what they are now living by.

Pls dont spin that here. That Buhari has failed does not mean that Jonathan did not fail. Please!

donbachi:
No president can fix nigeria except the masses.

This sounds like one of Buhari's campaign slogans that he used to win elections in 2015 and 2019

Jaqenhghar:
I disagree. They have a vibrant private sector that funds mist of their research. Government funding is a fraction of this funding. If today Danfote or adenuga gave money for research in any uni, you and me know how that money will end. The govt itself made a stayement about how funds for research was used to buy cars and houses. Im surprised you have not mentioned that

Fo back and check again. Government budgets hugely for scholarship. Then also works to get the private sector deeply involved.

ogbonti:
oga you are comparing apples to oranges - have you asked yourself HOW US PROFESSORS FEEL WHEN THEY HEAR THAT A LOVELY APARTMENT IN A DECENT AREA OF LAGOS GOES FOR N1 million a year which is about what they pay as rent for one month in their smaller apartments in the US?

your problem is that you dreamt last night that you are a billionaire but got angry that you woke up without 100 naira in your pocket. Some things are better left alone and the more you attempt rationalizing - the more you tend to lose your sanity.

you cannot sow rice and reap up cassava. It a like a teacher in Auchi, Edo State asking for the salary of what they pay a teacher in Lagos. So they pay the same amount for things ?

America is America and Nigeria is Nigeria - live with it or remain angry for life- sorry I can’t help you and i am not your enemy either - just life!

So because Nigeria is Nigeria, a professor who earns 340k monthly should feel as rewarded and appreciated as a politician who earns 25million monthly? May be na destiny abi? Or na apple and oranges? Siddon there o

Jaqenhghar:
Those unis in the US do you know how much those schols generate? The academicians are up and doing using their heads to generate wealth so why shouldnt they be able to afford something decent . Una professionals siddon dey wait for handouts. They are even too lazy to revise their curriculumn. E get one lecturer for my dept. Notes when him dey give since 1970s na him him give us in 2005. Im sure he still uses the same notes ubless he is retired. These are the experts government officials should run to for help. Their work na to siddon dey administer grades to whom they please

What you are avoiding is what the government in thos places do to encourage research. You are busy comparing with people who use their monthly salary for the research and publications that are necessary for their promotion.

Two women have real names. But the name of the third one is Davido's sister

Deep!

helinues:


And this is a leader of millions of people including professionals, scholars .

Chei.... there is God oooo

It's reall hard to comprehend

dustydee:
The total take home for a new professor is 342K and that is low but it is not the fault of IPPIS but that is the current salary scale as at today. Mind you they also have pension and NHF contributions which is there's but not immediately available to them.
They should be asking for better pay and not fighting against IPPIS.
I have seen vacancies here in the UK for university lecturers and was disappointed by the pay. My professors then in Uni did not rely on their salaries but on research grants, private consultancy services, inventions and other similar means of income. Nigerian academics will do well to be productive but I acknowledge that that will be difficult given the inadequate research facilities available to them.

Half of u are trying to justify it while other half are arguing that it is not true. It seems they didn't harmonise their propaganda template before releasing. It's the only possible explanation for all the contradictions.

Avidot:
This is not true. Especially if you are referring to federal university Professors. This is a mere basic salary of which allowances are even much more talk less of Grant's. IPPIS has nothing to do with destroying the educational system rather it only shows a better structure for accountability . OP Please read more on IPPIS.

Also must you convert the money into dollars before you get the value picture?

Half of you are trying to justify it while other half are arguing that it is not true. It seems they didn't harmonise their propaganda template before releasing. It's the only possible explanation for all the contradictions.

ogbonti:
the professors are greedy. Why are they comparing the salary to the US$? do they live in America? are they spending their salaries in America? For goodness sakes, these are supposed to be academic egg heads and they are acting and reasoning worse than illiterates. Do they understand what the term standard of living means? A US professor in a regular University which is not Ivy-League makes average of $6,000 to $8,000 a month (gross) for instance lives on that same level with a Nigerian professor making N350,000.

How you may ask

While the US professor feeds pays his rents (let me use rent rather than mortgage for easy understanding by folks who do not live in the USA) pays about $2,000 averagely a month if he lives in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana or Alabama, in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts or California, then he is paying almost double of that averagely and the wage difference is not more than $1,000 or so

By the time the Professor service his students loans for maybe 4 or 5 degrees he acquired, almost $2,500 extra is gone from that check. And then he pays car note and takes care of his family and leisure - of care is not taking that professor may never own his own house in his life time.

Do not forget that the stuff that Nigerian professors get away with in Nigeria like aeelingnof books - accepting blocking and other perks that are unethical, a US professor can never even think of that in their wildest dreams. Except for tenured professors, most professors in the US can be fired from their jobs instanta if they get poor student reviews at the end of the semester.

TELL ME - will any of these professors want to subject themselves and their employment sustainability on the reviews of students they molest, harass and victimize daily?

abeg enough of these whining about what they earn and the dollar equivalent. dollars are earned in America and bills are not payed for with Naira in America, it is payed with dollars also and please stop the conversion none sense.

Lastly, salaries are a function of demand and supply- so what value does Nigerian professors add to the educational system in Nigeria in terms of “research and discoveries” to merit the influx of international students rushing to Nigeria and paying their school fees in US dollars? so the professors can earn US dollars ?

So you are not ashamed to justify that a professor in your own country earns less than $1,000 per month. A country that is import dependent meaning it buys from same market with the ones in the developed countries, albeit at higher cost cos of many underdevelopmental issues. So you are not ashamed? Weh done!

suxex4ever:
If other ministries and departments under federal government complied with the rule of IPPS, why not lecturers?
Check salaries of workers in other ministry. After all, lecturers don't have two head compared to other brilliant workers doing the work on the field out there, in other ministries.

ASUU wahala is getting too much and it's not that they are fighting for the betterment of education sector, but there own pocket. Can you imagine some lecturers can't even receive write-up of their project students through email and proofread during this lockdown?? They still want to see the student before correction of project write-up.

Yes ASUU doesn't have two heads. Yet people like you would later wake up to wonder why productivity in your country is or has never been as good as that of countries that honour their intellectuals. Weh done!

jackie3:
Misinformation:this is basic salary without allowances.
Please stop misinforming the public

Come do you people understand the meaning of "gross"? Are you talking based on facts or based on your suspicion? If you have a relation who is a lecturer in any FG institution, call and ask him.

And I really hope you are not a BMO

This ones are foolish. To them, everything is politics.

Sunmolar:
forget about professor's take home.


let's talk about Madagascar's cure for Corona virus.



what have they contributed apart from routine & conventional research with little or no addition to inventions & innovations already made.

How do you compare research output of someone who sponsors research out of the meagre pay above with that of other countries who get jumbo pay and still give huge research grants and allowances? Does that make any sense?

By the way, the pic below answers the first part of your post...

heykims:
So ur point is that the gross should be the take home and no deductions should come in?
I'd expected u to reason better as an academic.

My point was a reply to your initial post that there are other allowances. Gross means total package including all allowances. Guy, this na primary school thing o.

galaxy2020:
...My secondary school mate is a prof, he's doing well, and I know is just not his salary he's depending on.

Then use the knowledge that a professor that you know does not depend on his salary alone, to be "doing well".

hoMegas:
While not absolving university lecturers of corruption, one cannot but suspect the Buhari Administration of trying to dumb down and destroy the Educational system.

This is to ensure an almajirisation of the educated parts of Nigeria.

I implore Nigerians to put aside all sentiments and elect a good ,youthful leader in 2023,because if we don't get it right then, Nigeria will require an event of seismic proportion to get back on track.

1. This is not about any part of Nigeria pls. As reasonable people, we should think about our collective well-being and progress. If countries are able to unites races, then it's a huge shame that Nigeria cannot unite tribes of the same race.

2. Age has nothing to do with it. Itnis about having responsible leaders, not those who take their children to school abroad while they stay behind to destroy the local universities. Yahaya Bello is younger than both Ambode and Sanwo-Olu, but the difference is more than clear.

ybalogs:
The Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System (IPPIS) is an information Communications Technology (ICT) project initiated by the Federal Government of Nigeria (FGN) to improve the effectiveness and efficiency of payroll administration for its Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDAs).

Check out this link below to help you understand whose pocket they are improving.

http://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3672443299437704&id=100000162111976&scmts=scwspsdd&extid=ew9QJ3k6ZCGx1LHT

Globad:
Why not post the figures BEFORE IPPIS as well nah?

GoldenJulius:
Abi oo, make dem post am
They have been avoiding normal charges and dues for years

Did you understand the table before commenting? What do you think is the meaning of the fourth column?

heykims:
You should also tell us the pay before IPPIS. IPPIS didn't cut down salaries but ensures tax, pension and other deductions are optimally removed.
People in academics have been evading tax for years and IPPIS enrolment will break that.
Mind u, civil servants are generally poorly paid not just professors.
Op is also a liar, there are other allowances attached.

Sorry o. If you schooled well, you would have known the meaning of "gross" with reference to salaries. Learn the meaning of gross, then back and look at the table again.

galaxy2020:
..am sure there other allowances not mentioned

You must have been following a lot of government propaganda against ASUU.
Ask any if your trusted relations who is a lecturer.

See Take Home Pay Of A Professor After IPPIS

These people have made up their minds to completely destroy the public university system.

Is this what a professors takes home in the universities that their own children do attend?

342k per month (less than $1,000) after about 20 years in service, and so many promotions.

This is just the end of the public university in Nigeria.

Note: 4th column says "gross", and gross means total including all allowances.

ikorodureporta:
What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It?
Academic Staff Union of Universities have engaged in fierce war of words over the government’s decision to make universities embrace the Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System.

President Muhammadu Buhari had, during the 2020 budget presentation at the National Assembly on October 8, ordered that all public sector workers must register for the IPPIS to save cost and fight corruption by blocking leakages in the Federal Government’s salary payment structure.

But ASUU had, last week, opposed the President’s directive, saying the IPPIS negated the law of university autonomy.

Here’s what you need to know about the IPPIS and ASUU’s reasons for resisting it.

The IPPIS

• IPPIS Secretariat is a Department under the Office of the Accountant-General of the Federation

• It is responsible for payment of salaries and wages directly to government employee’s bank account with appropriate deductions and remittances of third party payments.

• Such third party payments include the Federal Inland Revenue Service, State Boards of Internal Revenue, National Health Insurance Scheme, National Housing Fund, Pension Fund Administrator, Cooperative Societies, Trade Unions Dues, Association Dues and Bank Loans.

• IPPIS claims that its main aim is to pay accurately and on time within statutory and contractual regulations.

• There are 459 Ministries, Departments and Agencies on IPPIS Platform as at 31st June, 2017.

• The department is responsible for processing and payment of salary to over 300,000 Federal Government Employees across the 459 MDAs.

• IPPIS aim is to enrol into the platform, all Federal Government MDAs that draws personnel cost fund from the Consolidated Revenue Fund.

• Since inception of the IPPIS project in April 2007, the department has saved the Federal Government of Nigeria billions of Naira by eliminating thousands of ghost workers.

What ASUU says about the IPPIS

• It violates existing laws and autonomy of the university

• It is World Bank-designed exploitative template


• IPPIS does not make provisions for payment of arrears of promotion, study leave allowance, and responsibility allowance, among others

• It is designed to phase out university lecturers above 60 years against the new policy where professors retire at 70 years

• IPPIS is a one-size-fits-all approach tainted with corrupt tendencies

Battle line drawn

Meanwhile, the Federal Government has warned that anyone who fails to register for the IPPIS by October 31 would not be paid.

Source: https://punchng.com/ippis-and-asuus-reasons-for-resisting-it/

If this had happened somewhere else you would have seen so many mention of the religion and ethnicity of the culprit as if that is the main topic.

Hope the shameless bigots in our social media are noting this too