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robonski15: Fish farming like other business has its prons and cons.. And truthfully its a very lucrative and yet a money draining business..

I have read articles about how lucrative the business is and how to invest and reap millions.. All I do is just to laugh on reading such article.. All they want is just for u to buy their manual and make money.. Surprisingly most of them don't have a farm of their own, they are computer farmers who don't have any experience whatsoever in the business..

I know of farms within my area who have shut down their farms due to frequent loss over the years.. I was also considering shutting down myself after I lost close to 2 million naira, yeah u heard me TWO MILLION NAIRA, but after diligent study which took about a year I decided to give it my last shot..

To be continued..

ok now.

Goshen360: Lemme ask you a question as I'm about to sleep now. Do you think everything written in the bible is for Christian application today?

Tgirl4real: ermm...it seems Obadiah is no longer in the business of answering questions.



Can you explain what you said in the light of this scripture?

I believe this is a future event and Jesus ascended into heaven. Why was he referred to as Micheal here gain?



Talking about the end time...I think this verses refer to the fall of babylon (the nuking of the gentile nation - they being stripped of their rulership), right? Or is it a spiritual event?

shdemidemi: In actual fact, I rest my case on this issue of Israel. Read your romans 9-12 to know what I am trying to say yo you.

shdemidemi: Who are the 'you' to judge the twelve tribes in the context of the verse?
1 cor 6:3
3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?

Who are the 'we' in the context above?

kingk: Thanks to the father, the Son and the Holy spirit........also greeting to you all; brethren in the house. I thank God for today 5 of october 2013.

shdemidemi: Bro, do you understand what this verse is saying?

Oracles of God means the word of God. After Paul dismissed the belief of the Jews in chapter 2, they turned up in chapter 3 to ask what advantage the Jews have. Paul said the advantage was that they had the word of God committed to them in the ages past.



You are not answering the question bro. Simply show me the advantage of being part of the earthly Israel and compare it to what the church have through Christ. I am more than sure through scriptures that we have a better promise through Christ than the earthly Israel.



What was the requirement of the law Christ did not come to destroy?

Christ did not come to say you can now transgress against the law but he came to fulfil the requirement of the law which says the wages of sin is death.

Christ came to pay the price of sin( transgression against the law) once and for all. Death lost his sting on the cross and all captives of the law were set loose through the death of Christ.

Romans 6
9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2 cor 5:15
and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again. 16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; [b]old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. [/b]18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Mr President: I am honoured to be numbered with you Sire.

Mr President: Christ being the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes, means Christ is the very embodiment of everything a person who seeks righteousness should aspire to. This is why he said to us in John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

interpreted to mean...Walk ye in the way I have worked (walk ye in me) and ye will come unto the father (be saved).

“I was found by those who did not seek Me;

Isaiah said this as a future prophecy, for those who would come into the knowledge of Christ who were not originally lineage Israel. Because Jesus woul be sent to;

1 reconcile Israel to the Law and
2 Bring those gentiles who were willing into the Law.

Isaiah 49:6
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

shdemidemi: You are the one imagining all sort bro. Saying the body is of sin and death did not mean obey the flesh, it simply means know what the flesh is n what it is capable of. The bible calls the body temple because it carries a Spirit deposited in thr by God. It does not make the body any holier or immune from death.

shdemidemi: Should we take it that you are right n the scripture is wrong?

shdemidemi: No, the real me that will live forever is the spiritual according to scriptures but I am in this dying container known as my body.

shdemidemi: Romans
10 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel[a] is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

20 But Isaiah is very bold and says:

“I was found by those who did not seek Me;
I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”[m]
21 But to Israel he says:

“All day long I have stretched out My hands
To a disobedient and contrary people.”[n]

shdemidemi: There is a pure and distinct dichotomy between my flesh and my spirit. My spirit is a regenerated inward man that serves the law of God. My spirit is what I feed each time I study the word of God. My flesh remain sinful but my spirit subdues my flesh as I grow in the Word.

shdemidemi: Phil 2:13

What do u say to these things?

Goshen360: Please change your attitudes. NOBODY here argued tithe didn't predate the mosaic laws but the issue here is, is the tithe before the mosaic SAME PRACTICE AS tithe under the mosaic?

Mr President: Christopagan balderdash everywhere

shdemidemi: To be honest, I have not inferred anything. If you look at the quotes, you will see these things.

shdemidemi: Sister, no point for the shake of head. I am not an authority, I cld be wrong as well. But, thus far I am only saying what the scripture says. As for what happens after I believe with all my heart- that is left to God to decide what He is willing to do with me. Believing in the first place isn't my doing, God said He is the one who calls, he is also the one who predestinate and glorify. If he has called me, I trust Him to make me do what is right in His sight through His Spirit that is deposited in me.

shdemidemi: Are we still talking the word of God or secular moral standards.

I am sure within your own moral philosophy, you would never send your son to die the way God let him die. The fact is God's standard is different from the world's standard.

The gospel (good news) is not about me or my morals but about what a good God did by letting His son die that I might live.

shdemidemi: Israel!!!

We have the earthly Israel and the spiritual Israel.

The bible records that only 144 000 (12000 from each tribe) of the earthly Israel shall be saved. As for the spiritual Israel (Israel. Meaning conquer with the strength of God) we would be caught up with Christ before the great tribulation.

shdemidemi: Present a rebuttal through scriptures bro. If not obey the stringent word and don't try to adulterate what was written.

shdemidemi: That is what the world have so missed. The Sadducees and the Pharisees also missed it, they thought it was about morals, Jesus was constantly knocking them because He knew better. He knew no one is good except Him. Even the emergent churches today also go out to pick morals in the scripture.

Is the faith really about morals? No.

A Muslim or a Hindu believer can be morally upright than a saint. But that is not the issue, the issue and the faith is about what God can do if we put our trust in him. As far as God is concerned, we are all bad, we are all his enemies, no morality can change that. The good news is that even as bad as we are God is drawing us to himself through Jesus, if we believe.

Bidam: Which house did the messiah came from?Gentiles were the wild olive branch engrafted into the common-wealth of Israel because of the promise.

Galatians 3:15-17

Amplified Bible (AMP)

15 To speak in terms of human relations, brethren, [if] even a man makes a last will and testament (a merely human covenant), no one sets it aside or makes it void or adds to it when once it has been drawn up and signed (ratified, confirmed).

16 Now the promises (covenants, agreements) were decreed and made to Abraham and his Seed (his Offspring, his Heir). He [God] does not say, And to seeds (descendants, heirs), as if referring to many persons, but, And to your Seed (your Descendant, your Heir), obviously referring to one individual, Who is [none other than] Christ (the Messiah).

17 This is my argument: The Law, which began 430 years after the covenant [concerning the coming Messiah], does not and cannot annul the covenant previously established (ratified) by God, so as to abolish the promise and make it void.

shdemidemi: Romans 9-12 explains who the true Israel is.

The twist there is that the church is the son of promise and the earthly Israel are the sons of the bond woman. The promise was not for the nation of Israel but for a seed which is Christ. For the earthly Israel to be beneficiaries of the promise, they need to come into the faith through Christ just like Gentiles.
Romans 3
19

shdemidemi: You are right that he did what was asked of him, I am also doing what is asked of me.

I think where we have an issue is this law of Moses. Abraham was not under any mosaic law at the time, the church is also not under that law. If you think the church is under the law of Moses, please show us through scriptures.

shdemidemi: John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 6:47

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

Romans 3:22
even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;


There are many more if you want. Bro, we can't and we shouldn't add to the word of God. If the word says believe, why don't we live it as that!

shdemidemi: The fact here is there is no law written for the church, the bedrock of our relationship with God is BELIEF. God did not enter into any covenant whatsoever with the church like He did with the Jews through their father Abraham(in the flesh). He gave the church a gift of salvation through His Spirit with the caveat being 'belief',We walk as we are led by the Spirit of God. SIMPLES

If you have a verse that says God commands the church to do or not do to be saved, please do not hesitate to show us. And please don't bother going to the book of revelation because that book represents the age of works. They won't have the Holy Spirit at those times and there won't be Grace. God would cut a new covenant with the nation of Israel after the church as we know it have left the world through rapture.

shdemidemi: Bro it says with the house of Israel. The book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews who had issues accepting this gospel of Jesus Christ over the Jewish order.


Heb8:8 For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish[b] [color=#000000]a new covenant with the house of Israel[/color][/b] (not the church) and with the house of Judah

shdemidemi: The 'do' Abraham did was not what was accounted to him as righteousness rather It was his belief. Similarly, what do I get for believing the gospel of Christ? The Spirit of God.

What does the Spirit do in me? He makes me will, do and choose for God.

shdemidemi: ^^^^^^

There is nothing to judge sis, our trust/belief/faith in God remains the single most important base and central importance of our relationship with our creator.

The scripture says Abraham believed and it was accounted to him as righteousness. In like manner, we can only be made righteous in this present age through our belief not through dos and don'ts.

shdemidemi: The only instruction is belief
[/b]Romans1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

The power of God is guaranteed in the gospel of Christ if we believe.

shdemidemi no go kill person with laugh even as you type the word belief I am sure you were laughing at yourself already.

Is that what yashua taught the desciples? you truly lack the ability to be obedient, it is your destiny

You see how shdemidemi is decieving the children

Teaching them that [b]belief