shdemidemi:

No, the real me that will live forever is the spiritual according to scriptures but I am in this dying container known as my body.

The satanist belive the same too

That thier bodies are not important, hence all the basterdising they do to thier temples

The body is the temple shdemidemi and not a dying container as you put it.

Please treat your temple with respect ok.

shdemidemi:
Romans
10 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel[a] is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

20 But Isaiah is very bold and says:

“I was found by those who did not seek Me;
I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”[m]
21 But to Israel he says:

“All day long I have stretched out My hands
To a disobedient and contrary people.”[n]

Gather my elect from the 4 corners of the earth.

This is Isreal.

And not some christopagan nation.

shdemidemi:

There is a pure and distinct dichotomy between my flesh and my spirit. My spirit is a regenerated inward man that serves the law of God. My spirit is what I feed each time I study the word of God. My flesh remain sinful but my spirit subdues my flesh as I grow in the Word.

But all is still you abi, wether physical or spiritual?

shdemidemi:

Phil 2:13

What do u say to these things?

But to the wicked person, God says:


Psalm 50 16-17.... What right have you to recite my laws or take my covenant on your lips? You hate my instruction and cast my words behind you.

True talk mr shdemidemi.

Goshen360:

Please change your attitudes. NOBODY here argued tithe didn't predate the mosaic laws but the issue here is, is the tithe before the mosaic SAME PRACTICE AS tithe under the mosaic?

Confusion master

Mr President: Christopagan balderdash everywhere

Yes Sire.

shdemidemi:

To be honest, I have not inferred anything. If you look at the quotes, you will see these things.

Ok lets try this again....

What morals do you subscribe to if any at all at all?

shdemidemi:

Sister, no point for the shake of head. I am not an authority, I cld be wrong as well. But, thus far I am only saying what the scripture says. As for what happens after I believe with all my heart- that is left to God to decide what He is willing to do with me. Believing in the first place isn't my doing, God said He is the one who calls, he is also the one who predestinate and glorify. If he has called me, I trust Him to make me do what is right in His sight through His Spirit that is deposited in me.

Never knew that certain people existed on earth without a free will.

We should get you checked up

joker

shdemidemi:

Are we still talking the word of God or secular moral standards.

I am sure within your own moral philosophy, you would never send your son to die the way God let him die. The fact is God's standard is different from the world's standard.

The gospel (good news) is not about me or my morals but about what a good God did by letting His son die that I might live.

Didnt know there was a difference.

But you know how you have a double standard for all things biblical.

Double vision I call it.

shdemidemi shdemidemi

shdemidemi:

Israel!!!

We have the earthly Israel and the spiritual Israel.

The bible records that only 144 000 (12000 from each tribe) of the earthly Israel shall be saved. As for the spiritual Israel (Israel. Meaning conquer with the strength of God) we would be caught up with Christ before the great tribulation.

Is the spiritual shdemidemi different from the physical shdemidemi?

Joker.

Can you have one without the other.

You are truly of the little horn.

See as you dey tie yourself up with rope

You cannot sin hence you do not need to confess any wrongdoing and you dont need morals as morals cannot save you or your children. you are sounding very blind indeed, spiritually that is.

Whatever is in the spirit is what manifests in the flesh

These your magician theories are old school and menat to decive the foolish

But I aint foolish though.

shdemidemi:

Present a rebuttal through scriptures bro. If not obey the stringent word and don't try to adulterate what was written.

It is you that is the false pretender

I have put it before you, carry your cross and follow him

you have given a distorted interpretation of what follow means

I hope thats not what you are teaching your children

That to follow means to do as I say and not as I do whatever that means, only ever heard such jokes on nairaland

How do you plan to raise your kids without morals?

Joker.

shdemidemi:

That is what the world have so missed. The Sadducees and the Pharisees also missed it, they thought it was about morals, Jesus was constantly knocking them because He knew better. He knew no one is good except Him. Even the emergent churches today also go out to pick morals in the scripture.

Is the faith really about morals? No.

A Muslim or a Hindu believer can be morally upright than a saint. But that is not the issue, the issue and the faith is about what God can do if we put our trust in him. As far as God is concerned, we are all bad, we are all his enemies, no morality can change that. The good news is that even as bad as we are God is drawing us to himself through Jesus, if we believe.

You are just getting better and better at this.

Please just confirm once and for all for those of us viewing that you have no morals.

Its not about morals? wonders no go end lfor nairaland.

Bidam: Which house did the messiah came from?Gentiles were the wild olive branch engrafted into the common-wealth of Israel because of the promise.

Galatians 3:15-17

Amplified Bible (AMP)

15 To speak in terms of human relations, brethren, [if] even a man makes a last will and testament (a merely human covenant), no one sets it aside or makes it void or adds to it when once it has been drawn up and signed (ratified, confirmed).

16 Now the promises (covenants, agreements) were decreed and made to Abraham and his Seed (his Offspring, his Heir). He [God] does not say, And to seeds (descendants, heirs), as if referring to many persons, but, And to your Seed (your Descendant, your Heir), obviously referring to one individual, Who is [none other than] Christ (the Messiah).

17 This is my argument: The Law, which began 430 years after the covenant [concerning the coming Messiah], does not and cannot annul the covenant previously established (ratified) by God, so as to abolish the promise and make it void.

The man is negating all promises made to isreal and is replacing her with his own prophetic kingdom

shdemidemi: Romans 9-12 explains who the true Israel is.

The twist there is that the church is the son of promise and the earthly Israel are the sons of the bond woman. The promise was not for the nation of Israel but for a seed which is Christ. For the earthly Israel to be beneficiaries of the promise, they need to come into the faith through Christ just like Gentiles.
Romans 3
19

So the prophets including yashua and all the apostles do not know what they are saying when they prophecy that isreal shall reign in the kingdom age.

Joker.:

shdemidemi: You are right that he did what was asked of him, I am also doing what is asked of me.

I think where we have an issue is this law of Moses. Abraham was not under any mosaic law at the time, the church is also not under that law. If you think the church is under the law of Moses, please show us through scriptures.

I dont think you are. You were asked to cary a cross and follow in his exact footsteps, but that is too hard for you to do.

You would rather do what he said, even though what he is said is what he did as is testified by scripture

And you are saying the church is now without moral codes? I hear you

LWKP

shdemidemi:

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 6:47

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

Romans 3:22
even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;


There are many more if you want. Bro, we can't and we shouldn't add to the word of God. If the word says believe, why don't we live it as that!

Belive in him without any action. I hear you.

Believe in him but dont do what he did, now thats even more crazy talk.

shdemidemi: The fact here is there is no law written for the church, the bedrock of our relationship with God is BELIEF. God did not enter into any covenant whatsoever with the church like He did with the Jews through their father Abraham(in the flesh). He gave the church a gift of salvation through His Spirit with the caveat being 'belief',We walk as we are led by the Spirit of God. SIMPLES

If you have a verse that says God commands the church to do or not do to be saved, please do not hesitate to show us. And please don't bother going to the book of revelation because that book represents the age of works. They won't have the Holy Spirit at those times and there won't be Grace. God would cut a new covenant with the nation of Israel after the church as we know it have left the world through rapture.

I know even you in your deepest of deep you dont believe what you are saying.

Did yashua tell you all you need is belief?

Why are you trying to be smarter than your master?

shdemidemi:

Bro it says with the house of Israel. The book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews who had issues accepting this gospel of Jesus Christ over the Jewish order.


Heb8:8 For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish[b] a new covenant with the house of Israel[/b] (not the church) and with the house of Judah

Apart from Isreal there is no other

Your Idea of a christopagan nation inheriting the kingdom is pure fancy.

vain Imaginations.

Aspire to be an isrealite, to be amongst the elect.

shdemidemi:

The 'do' Abraham did was not what was accounted to him as righteousness rather It was his belief. Similarly, what do I get for believing the gospel of Christ? The Spirit of God.

What does the Spirit do in me? He makes me will, do and choose for God.

But it is still written that he did.

Are you angry because he did?

We say paul did you say he is a pretender

We say yashua did you say yashua is an Alien

We say all the aposltes did you say they dont know wetin den dey do.

It has been written of you that you did not, and even worse you actively discourage people who try to do

You and the little horn are one. Ever trying so hard to change the traditions and customs of the most high God.

shdemidemi: ^^^^^^

There is nothing to judge sis, our trust/belief/faith in God remains the single most important base and central importance of our relationship with our creator.

The scripture says Abraham believed and it was accounted to him as righteousness. In like manner, we can only be made righteous in this present age through our belief not through dos and don'ts.

After belief did Abraham not do as well

You just stick to your one sided coin

It really fits you, the cap that is.

shdemidemi:

The only instruction is belief
[/b]Romans1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

The power of God is guaranteed in the gospel of Christ if we believe.

shdemidemi no go kill person with laugh even as you type the word belief I am sure you were laughing at yourself already.

Is that what yashua taught the desciples? you truly lack the ability to be obedient, it is your destiny

You see how shdemidemi is decieving the children

Teaching them that [b]belief and not even knowledge is all the need.

Lawlessness is death

You are the lawless man.

Tgirl4real:

You should answer so that we can know which instructions you approve for us to follow.

shdemidemi:

The scripture never said God went into a covenant with the church so I won't assume we are in any covenant, the scripture also says we are not under the law but it says we are led by the Spirit of God as Christians.

You have not answerd a very direct question put forth by my sister.

List the laws you abide by or actions you commit when you are (led by the Spirit of God as Christians) and then we can compare them with the Laws of the most high God

After which we can then agree on which is the original and the fake.

Stop joking around and be specific on what is righ and wrong to you morally

Or are you saying you have gone past morality as well

First you say you cannot sin, then you say you have no morals , you and Goshen are really stiff necked, but its all for the childrens sake.

Jokes.

Alwaystrue: @All,
Please see what the bible says:

Luke 16:16
The Law and the Prophets were UNTIL JOHN; SINCE THEN the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and EVERYONE forces his way into it

John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

John 1:14
And the WORD BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth


The law and prophets were until John and THE WORD OF GOD - JESUS CHRIST came to live with us, FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH and the Kingdom of God is preached to EVERYMAN (remember the Samaritan woman), all He wanted was to focus on Israel (since it is their bread) first before spreading it to the whole world. IT IS THE SAME GOSPEL pls.

His life on earth as the WORD, was to give GRACE and TRUTH to the words already preached before now. HIS LIFE AND WORDS ON EARTH is the New Testament sealed in His blood (Mathew 26:28).
The Holy Spirit (Another Comforter) coming in Acts of the Apostles was to guide in all truth and remind us of the words of Jesus. This is difference we have between the OT and NT. We have the Spirit.
Thank you.

Yashua obeyed the law to the end and all his apostles also.

Wetin come be ya own?

Lawlessness is death

shdemidemi:

Not at all, it can't be wrong to obey your father's instruction but that is of course if you know what the instruction is.

So please tell us what these instructions are.

kingk:

Though the Summarised law of christ is love............. But mathew 5 really outlined his laws to Christians.

The man will never acknoledge or agree that mathew 5 or even the sermon on the mount is addressed to the followers of christ.

Lawlessness is death.

kingk:

Please kindly explain what you mean by " Jesus never spoke to Christians in his earthly ministry." His parables I know is not earthly, but where do his law apply? Heavenly?

Yes please kindly explain yaself shidedemi

obadiah777: i am trying my best to be part of the elect or one third. i live a holy life ( well as holy as possible ). i stay in the word ( bible ) almost every hour of the day and study to show myself approved. i meditate on the lords precepts. yes, i hope i am part of the number.

The profile is sure sounding llike that of the holy spirit.

Top of the day to you brother.

I can see the scoffers are never ending.

shdemidemi:

I can also understand why you agree with him. But if we read thoroughly through the books we might all agree.

Do you agree the Old Testament is the earthly representation and a shadow of the the new. I don't see the old as a story book, I kind of see it as the the dispensation of the flesh and the new as the dispensation of the Spirit.

I see Joseph as a kind of Christ preparing a place for his people in Egypt.

I see Isaac as the church born out of love and the Jews as Ishmael.

I see Moses' snake as the true word of God and the snakes of Jannes and Jambres as having a form of the true word.

I see Abraham as a form of the father Isaac the son and Jacob the Holy Spirit.

I see Israel to mean conquering by the strength of God and more.

How do we choose life in this present age?

Can man ever choose God?

Lawlessness is death.

Goshen360:

Seconded!!! I'm actually hoping on this too. Infact, Image123 and 'some' hold that Christ is Melchizedek.

Who else could he be?

Are they not both same high priests of the most high God?

Who else can occupy that office within the order

Its called inspiration.

Goshen360:

You're dishonest in handling the word. Why can't you finish quoting what Christ said in that verse?

Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

What then are they doing (as works) that Christ said disciples should NOT do?

And you are fighting the word and trying to take it apart.

For they say and do not. Now that is the offence of the scribes.

But he never said disobey the scribes or moses on the contrary he said do all they tell you to do concerning the law and the prophets but dont be like them for they know the right thing, teach it but they dont do it themselves.

Sounds like some individuals I know on this forum, they preach yashua but cant be botherd with the works he did. Hypocrites

Jokers.

You are teaching children to disobey moses.



Even Goshen is Just catching for straws.

shdemidemi: ^^^^please back your statements with scriptures so we don't use our own falling man's reasoning to say what God is not saying.



Did God go into a covenant with you or your race?

What action did you take to be called an enemy of God before accepting Christ?

Where you not given a choice in the beginning?

Did you not of your own free will transgress the commandment given you

is that not free will?

Stop living in denial.

You are responsible for all your actions

You have been blessed with a free will and it is a beutifull thing

Trangressions will be met with judgements simple.

Stop teaching lawlessness.