obadiah777: * cough* heresy *cough*

Logicboy03: One trick pony!


Everything na law law law with you.

Moses law
Old testament law and grace
judaizer law.



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The man says he is determined to destroy the law of Moses.

By the confessions of his own mouth.

Its a very heavy load and I know Goshen is not fully aware of the penalties involved for uttering such such words.

But who can save his brothers soul??

He will surely get his reward.

Goshen360:

1. Salvation is of the Jews truly but that was BEFORE the Cross. The Cross, death and resurrection of Christ that began the New Covenant is the difference. That's the revelation and victory of the finished works that Christians are to believe in. It's all done by Christ.

2. The Law had been fulfilled, why are many Christians still trying to keep what has been fulfilled or done by Christ? That's trying to resurrect the works of the law and do the law against or keep it by ourselves. Then such Christians are saying, the finished works is not enough, and such are fallen from Grace.

Grace be multiplied unto all. The End. We can continue our discussion thereafter now.

So all prophesies regarding Israel and the kingdom age are false

You say Isreal is not reborn, but instead the christopagan beast shall prevail.

Folly.

Salvation cometh from Yehuda forevermore for the scepter shall not pass from between his feet.

And even the promise of the land is given unto joseph and by extension Ephraim [/b]and [b]Manasseh and ultimately Samaria

How does your christopagan traditions reconcile with these truths

The economic, civil, agricultural, legal and spiritual framework of the future messenaic kingdom is based upon the torah and this is confirmed everywhere within scripture, you cannot hide the truth.

Stop teaching this your death

Stop trying to change the customs and traditions of the most high God, that job is for the little horn.

Goshen360:

Again, the practices of the law was still in force then. Jesus was rebuking the scribes and pharisees, not his teaching his disciples. If you think Christ was addressing the church, in that verse, then put your name in Matthew 23:23 and re-read it and listen to how it sounds.

The sermon on the mount is pure LAW as is testified by scripture.

And the sermon of the mount is addressed to the true believers throughout all of time.

So whose doctrine are you teaching here?

Yours obviously. but remember this..

YOU CAN BE EXACTLY AS YOUR MASTER IS BUT NEVER GREATER.

By superimposing your own interpretations over what is literally given within the masters sermon on the mount you have EXALTED YASELF over all that is called GODLY and are presenting yaself as the GODHEAD

The spawn of the Lawlwss one

The spawn of the little horn

Goshen360:

Jesus could not have received tithe because Hebrews 7 says so. Samuel's priesthood is a type and shadow of believer's priesthood. Christ is our high priest and priest don't pay tithe to high priest, even under the law. As for David, don't even go there because, if I show you sometimes about David now and do teaching with it, I'm sure you will not agree with me.

Yashua and samuel are of the exact same priesthood.

They are both of The Order of Melchizedek

And not the order of Aaron.

Stop teaching DEATH.

obadiah777: and lets not forget dbanj and wizkid. they deserve some blame too Sire

LWTMB

Those mans inclusive Sire

debosky:

They who were sealed - 12,000 each from each of the tribes of Israel, not angels, are the 144,000. Rev 7 even goes as far as talking about the 4 angels before talking about the 144,000. Clearly John didn't find it difficult to write angel and would have done so if he meant that when describing the 144,000

Secondly, they were later described in Revelations 14 as those having the name of the father and son written on their foreheads - not angels. Nowhere are we told that angels have the name of the father and son written on them.

Respectfully, sire you do err.

An angel is a messenger.

Simply put.

If Elijah is a messenger of the most high God then he is an angel.

If yashua Ibn joseph is a messenger of the most high God then he is an angel

If debosky is a messenger of the most high God Then yes debosky is an angel.

obadiah777: what makes you an angel ? instructions and messages are programmed ( sealed ) into you. its as simple as that

the definition of an angel is a messenger

They still cant get thier heads around that definition Sire.

Lets all blame walt disney.

Yeah walt deserves seriouse koboko for programming the minds of a whole generation.

TinyPurpleBaby:



Top of the morning people!!!

Wassup TPB?

How ya dey now.

debosky:

Sire you do err. . . .this your claim that they are 'wrapping the verse up in mystery' is simply a cop out whenever a verse doesn't agree with your current constructions.

There is nowhere in the scripture where the number of angels is stated specifically.

They messengers/witnesses/Angels are numberd at 144 thousand.

you cant get more specific than that mr Debosky.

obadiah777: indeed sire. always good to have an enlightened fellow to further confound the gainsayers. as scripture says >>>>>>>

matthew 18 vs 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

True talk Sire.

Top of the day to you brother.

As is testified by scripture there are only 144 thousand potential angels/messengers on earth as we speak

These are those of the first ressurection.

Anything outside this number is gentile by nature.

So yes presently the heathen way way outnumber the angels of the most high God on earth.

Yashua Ibn joseph obeyed the law to the end as is testified by scripture.

Paul whome the lawless ones hide behind obeyed the law to the end as is testified by scripture.

So where do you grace only individuals stand??

Just a bunch of jokers.

Goshen360:

@ Pastor Olu T,

My brother, I'm OUT TO DESTROY THE LAW, of Moses because I have a deeper revelation and truth on it. If Christians understand the LAW is man trying to do something for God instead of Graciously receiving what God is doing for man. The Law is the covenant initiated by MAN, the people of Israel, NOT God. I humbly invite you to Alexleo's thread where I'm currently doing a teaching on what you requested or thinking to open a thread for. Some people might not read the teaching there because it's inside Alex's thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/1453408/teaching-presented-law-grace-please

What deeper revelation?

Deeper than what yashua taught in the sermon on the mount?

joker.

You can be exactly as your master is but never greater.

You mr goshen are the little horn proper, talking about destroying times customs and traditions.

Go read daniel 7, its all about you and your type

Goshen360:



Bidam,

I also invite you to the above Alex's thread. You will understand why the Old covenant based on the LAW was discontinued and brought to an end. It's a systematic teaching I'm doing in that thread.

Lawless Man.

He who is greater than his master.

philfearon:
Dude,i only rated his(obadiah777) I.Q.....and i dont remember insulting Mosthigh,and i remember i was ignoring him till i decided it was enough.......
You guys are the one the one ranting "stiff necked scoffers" all around the thread!
Since u cant even comprehend the simple things i have writing on this thread,i wonder how you Comprehend the Holy Bible!

Take a critical look around you, it is you that is on the popular side.

Broad is the road to destruction, ever heard that phrase before?

There are over 2 billion people configured exactly like you.

I say configured because of the mind controll factor.

MEILYN: i didnt insult u, i only gave you an advice sire.. oh, u were the one calling Obadiah a m.o.r.o.n and an illiterate. U insulted brother mosthigh too.. I no know say advice dey pain you like this oo, if i come insult you nnko?

philfearon:
A simple Yes or No!! YOU CAN RUN ROUND THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA IF YOU WANT,but my answer still requires a simple Yes or No!!.....
Or are u confused like your Cohort too?
Finally,i can and will call u "bro" if i deem it fit!

Ok Now.

Na you get your mouth sha.

philfearon:
A Simple Yes or No bro!! Your cohort Obadiah777 is more comprehensible than you i see......He was clever enough to just say "yes",Okwu ebie!....

Ignorance is no excuse.

And I aint your bro.

philfearon:
A simple "YES" or "NO" could have been better....Dont u think so?

Words have unimaginable power.

And the chasm between belief and knowlwdge is infinite.

Beleif implies doubt, knowledge on the other hand.....

I was only trying to pass a subtle message accross sorry you didnt get it the first time.

obadiah777: james 1 vs 8 A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. i always knew philfearon was an unstable lad lol

Unstable is the keyword here Sire.

philfearon:
Then Topic is Closed..........Nothing more to talk about!..
Only your Lord God can Save you,an angel Can't save You!

OK now.

We don hear your talk.

TinyPurpleBaby:

Ah MostHigh my bruva from another mama

Top of the everythang to you mehn

Winni just dey confuse people, she get terrible surprise fo us mehn.

No confusion near ya doorstep at all at all.

Amen.

philfearon:
if you have noticed,i have been neglecting all ur posts and mine that u have been quoting.....But i gotta ask you too:
do you Believe that Jesus Christ is your Personal Lord and Saviour?

Make up your mind do you want to ignore me or not.

I do not Believe, But rather I know that yahua Ibn Joseph is my Lord and My God

philfearon:
If Thats what ur understanding tells you,then i know what your level of I.Q is======> you are not even up to an Educable , still a m.o.r.o.n......
...
I have one simple question for you:
Do you believe That Jesus Christ is your Personal Lord and Savior?

First he be raging with insults having reached the depths of his intelligence

Then he asks the most popular question from the christopagan manual

TinyPurpleBaby:





OhbeeDee Why are you are still trying to explain to them. They can never come out of that shell and partly because of the fear of hell fire and saying something contrary to what you have been thought will cause immediate punishment from God. That fear has developed into a giant and once that fear is in them, they would never want to free their mind. Fear can do a lot of things.

TPB wassup.

Top of the day to you ma sister.

How is winniempeg.

obadiah777: daniel 7 vs 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

2 thessalonians 2 vs 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The man needs to be flogged for 7 days and 7 nights

preadventure he regains his senses.

And repents from his wickedness.

obadiah777: oh i see, so you are saying you have only read one book in the bible. THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN. no wonder you are always talking out of the side of your neck

Just like I said.

Another christopagan.

haibe:

he belongs to JW

Presumtiouse fellow.

ariseandshine:

The father is an ounce of Gold and the son is also an ounce of Gold. That makes them two different people with the same materials or characteristics.
From what you are saying (correct me if am wrong) its like Elijah and John the Baptist. That doesn't sound scriptural.

When Christ was here on earth and was being baptized by John at Jordan where was God?

If I remember correctly he has told you all that HE AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.

Go somewhere relax and read again it will all come back to you

obadiah777: Goshen Grace. the snake-oil salesman. single handedly leading many on NL into the lake of fire with his antinomian lawless, 'we can sin because our sins have been washed by grace' doctrine thats one stiff necked reprobate heathen i tell ya

He be selling his snake oil on nairaland daily.

Leading so many children astray

Changing times and traditions of the most high God

And placing himself above all that is called Eloheem

Lawless child of the little horn thats what Grace goshen is.

obadiah777: james 1 vs 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. NONE

Precept upon precept brother.

The heathens dont have a chance.