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Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 10:47am On Oct 04, 2013
Tgirl4real: You should answer so that we can know which instructions you approve for us to follow.
grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 10:44am On Oct 04, 2013
shdemidemi: The scripture never said God went into a covenant with the church so I won't assume we are in any covenant, the scripture also says we are not under the law but it says we are led by the Spirit of God as Christians.
You have not answerd a very direct question put forth by my sister.

List the laws you abide by or actions you commit when you are (led by the Spirit of God as Christians) and then we can compare them with the Laws of the most high God

After which we can then agree on which is the original and the fake.smiley

Stop joking around and be specific on what is righ and wrong to you morally grin grin

Or are you saying you have gone past morality as well

First you say you cannot sin, then you say you have no morals grin, you and Goshen are really stiff necked, but its all for the childrens sake.

Jokes.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 4:31pm On Oct 03, 2013
Alwaystrue: @All,
Please see what the bible says:

Luke 16:16
The Law and the Prophets were UNTIL JOHN; SINCE THEN the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and EVERYONE forces his way into it

John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

John 1:14
And the WORD BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth


The law and prophets were until John and THE WORD OF GOD - JESUS CHRIST came to live with us, FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH and the Kingdom of God is preached to EVERYMAN (remember the Samaritan woman), all He wanted was to focus on Israel (since it is their bread) first before spreading it to the whole world. IT IS THE SAME GOSPEL pls.

His life on earth as the WORD, was to give GRACE and TRUTH to the words already preached before now. HIS LIFE AND WORDS ON EARTH is the New Testament sealed in His blood (Mathew 26:28).
The Holy Spirit (Another Comforter) coming in Acts of the Apostles was to guide in all truth and remind us of the words of Jesus. This is difference we have between the OT and NT. We have the Spirit.
Thank you.
Yashua obeyed the law to the end and all his apostles also.

Wetin come be ya own?

Lawlessness is death
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 4:28pm On Oct 03, 2013
shdemidemi: Not at all, it can't be wrong to obey your father's instruction but that is of course if you know what the instruction is.
So please tell us what these instructions are.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 3:09pm On Oct 03, 2013
kingk: Though the Summarised law of christ is love............. But mathew 5 really outlined his laws to Christians.
The man will never acknoledge or agree that mathew 5 or even the sermon on the mount is addressed to the followers of christ.

Lawlessness is death.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 3:07pm On Oct 03, 2013
kingk: Please kindly explain what you mean by " Jesus never spoke to Christians in his earthly ministry." His parables I know is not earthly, but where do his law apply? Heavenly?
Yes please kindly explain yaself shidedemi
PoliticsRe: Plane Crash In Lagos At Airport Road MMIA Near Toll Gate by MostHigh: 1:55pm On Oct 03, 2013
obadiah777: i am trying my best to be part of the elect or one third. i live a holy life ( well as holy as possible ). i stay in the word ( bible ) almost every hour of the day and study to show myself approved. i meditate on the lords precepts. yes, i hope i am part of the number. wink
The profile is sure sounding llike that of the holy spirit.

Top of the day to you brother. smiley

I can see the scoffers are never ending.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 12:42pm On Oct 03, 2013
shdemidemi: I can also understand why you agree with him. But if we read thoroughly through the books we might all agree.

Do you agree the Old Testament is the earthly representation and a shadow of the the new. I don't see the old as a story book, I kind of see it as the the dispensation of the flesh and the new as the dispensation of the Spirit.

I see Joseph as a kind of Christ preparing a place for his people in Egypt.

I see Isaac as the church born out of love and the Jews as Ishmael.

I see Moses' snake as the true word of God and the snakes of Jannes and Jambres as having a form of the true word.

I see Abraham as a form of the father Isaac the son and Jacob the Holy Spirit.

I see Israel to mean conquering by the strength of God and more.

How do we choose life in this present age?

Can man ever choose God?
Lawlessness is death.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by MostHigh: 12:06pm On Oct 03, 2013
Goshen360: Seconded!!! I'm actually hoping on this too. Infact, Image123 and 'some' hold that Christ is Melchizedek.
Who else could he be?

Are they not both same high priests of the most high God?

Who else can occupy that office within the order

Its called inspiration. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh:
Goshen360: You're dishonest in handling the word. Why can't you finish quoting what Christ said in that verse?

Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

What then are they doing (as works) that Christ said disciples should NOT do?
And you are fighting the word and trying to take it apart.grin

For they say and do not.smiley Now that is the offence of the scribes.

But he never said disobey the scribes or moses on the contrary he said do all they tell you to do concerning the law and the prophets but dont be like them for they know the right thing, teach it but they dont do it themselves. grin

Sounds like some individuals I know on this forum, they preach yashua but cant be botherd with the works he did.smiley Hypocrites

Jokers.

You are teaching children to disobey moses.

grin grin

Even Goshen is Just catching for straws.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 11:55am On Oct 03, 2013
shdemidemi: ^^^^please back your statements with scriptures so we don't use our own falling man's reasoning to say what God is not saying.



Did God go into a covenant with you or your race?

What action did you take to be called an enemy of God before accepting Christ?
Where you not given a choice in the beginning?

Did you not of your own free will transgress the commandment given you

is that not free will?

grin grin Stop living in denial.

You are responsible for all your actions

You have been blessed with a free will and it is a beutifull thing

Trangressions will be met with judgements simple.smiley

Stop teaching lawlessness.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 11:51am On Oct 03, 2013
author=shdemidemi]

I asked you before, I ask again.. What way of life are we really suppose to emulate...
His way of life is all over the gospels stop being cheeky.smiley


Does emulating Christ mean I should do all he did literally?
The answer is yes. lets use the chinese movie as an example. Every desciple wants to be exactly as his master is, copying his every move mimicking his every action.

The relationship between desiple and master as we see between yashua and his desciples is exactly the same, I dont know where you got your own definition of DESCIPLE from but it is erronously wrong

Should I try to die for mankind?
Not mankind but for your brother which is really the same thing seeing that the end point is loss of ones own lifesmiley, If you were truly his desciple you would remember he revealed this to the elect as the greatest sacrifice a man could offer for his friends


I believe following Christ and emulating him simply means following his teachings
.

His teachings is all about obeying the LAW OF MOSES MATH 23:2 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you.

The sermon on the mount is pure LAW and that is why you cannot Identify with it.

Yashua quoted from the book of deutronomy more than any other book in the torah, fact.

Deutronomy is a reminder of the LAW.

Dont be the Lawless man. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 11:17am On Oct 03, 2013
What choice?
The scripture says God controls our thoughts and choices when we have His Spirit in us. Even when we think we are making a choice out of our own volition, we unconsciously choose for God.

The bible says Romans 8:30

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


He knew us before we were born, He knows our next move and our destination, He called us to himself for He said we did not choose him but He chose us and He justifies us. What really do I have to do here, it's all God that works in me to even think about Him or do any work. Where is my choice here bro?

Do you really think Paul chose to preach this gospel? No. God apprehended him, he arrested him, He chose him just like He does to anyone who is alive in the faith.

Jesus also called all the twelve, none chose him. We remain dead until God calls us, therefore no man can preach any man to salvation, we can only talk. God does the finish work through his word or through disaster.
Even with your predestination talk the reality still stands

You are endowed with a free will.

You are responsible for all of your actions so please be aware

There is a penalty for transgression it is called judgement.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 11:13am On Oct 03, 2013
That verse actually says 'Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me' and not follow my way of life. I believe Christ is saying listen to what I am saying to you, different from literally do what I am doing. I believe Jesus is perfect, I believe no man can by any self ability but by believing the gospel of Christ we are made right in the sight of God.
shdemidemi just catching for straws. smiley

So you would attempt to separate ME from MY WAY OF LIFE. grin grin grin

How is this possible shdemidemi please explain to us.

Is the word not the power

Is life and death not on the tounge

Ok lets try it this way.....

Watch your every thoughts for they might become your words

Watch your every word for thy might become your actions

Watch your every action for they might become your habits

And finally watch out for your habits for herin lies your DESTINY

So you see shdemidemi you cannot seperate the thought/spoken word form the outward character and eventual destiny. smiley

Finally a word from the ever wise master...

Math 23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh:
author=shdemidemi]

What choice?
The scripture says God controls our thoughts and choices when we have His Spirit in us. Even when we think we are making a choice out of our own volition, we unconsciously choose for God.
The prescence of the indwelling spirit within the believer does not negate or take away your free will.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 10:59am On Oct 03, 2013
Mr President: Sire, I fear for the evil these people are peddling. Deceptive and deceitful doctrines propounded by demons and propagated by their agents.

Yashua told us he is the way to The Father, he also told us to learn of Him.

Mathew 11:29
29 Take my yoke upon you,and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.


It is by walking the way Yashua walked that we can have access to the Father. These people have refused to keep the commands of Yashua, they can never know the Father, He will never manifest Himself to them!
Presidooooooooooooo!!

Wassup mi brother, where you been.

True Words of wisdom you have spoken here Sire, the children of the light always come with greater and greater light all the time.smiley

Matthew 10:25 ...It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters.

The sons of perdition will all suffer for thier folly, this is for sure.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 9:49am On Oct 03, 2013
shdemidemi: The best way I can back that up is by saying Christ did not come as flesh or a mere mortal but he came like one of us, like sinful flesh. He came pure without the gene of Adam. He could not sin because he was pure but every human carry the sinful nature inherited through Adam. I do not have a righteousness of my own, I cannot present any righteousness before God because its all like filthy rag before him but by the blood of Christ, I am hid under his righteousness. God now works in me both to will and do of His (God's)good pleasure if I truly have His Spirit in me.
So in other words there is no need to copy your masters examplary life.smiley

Even though he specifically asked you to..

In Math 16:24 the master specifically insrtucts the desciple to deny himself and follow his way of life

Meanwhile shdemidemi says the masters way is unatainable due to his genetic supiriority grin grin Whatever that is.

shdemidemi you are taching the doctrine of the deciever.

You have been warned. smiley


And the bolded in your statement is purely your opinion without any scriptural backing

Also the Issue here is that christ chose not to sin.

It is not that he could not sin.

Every soul has the choice to make.

It will always be about 2 men 2 ways 2 destinies, there is no middle ground with the most high God. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 9:48pm On Oct 02, 2013
Deschil: How about Job and Enochhuh Dem get 2 headshuh
In case you are not aware...

Living in sin would mean repeatedly committing the same offense without any remorse or sense of wrongdoing.smiley

Now nowhere do we see Job or Enoch live such a life.

You on the other hand we are not so sure.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 9:46pm On Oct 02, 2013
shdemidemi: We don't know Jesus in the flesh anymore, we can't do the works he did. The difference between Jesus and every other man is that Jesus had no sin nature. The only standard is to believe the gospel of Christ, by doing this we are led by God himself through the help of the Holy Spirit.
Can you back up the bolded in your response with scripture

Or is this your personal opinion. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 5:01pm On Oct 02, 2013
TinyPurpleBaby: Lmao...not false weight, price inflation due to fuel....MAN MUSS CHOPU NA!
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Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 4:59pm On Oct 02, 2013
shdemidemi: What Paul did or did not do is not a standard for us. I have read your arguments about how Paul took part in the the Jewish order. Of course you have a point but the man made it clear that he did all he did to win some even among his brethren and his countrymen according to the flesh.

The word of God remains the only sure word of prophecy. The word says our righteousness as Christians is not measured by the deeds of the law but through Christ.
Ok.....

Seeing that you confess paul as not being the standard I have to ask another question.

What about yashua Ibn joseph, is HIS LIFE A STANDARD that we should follow?
Christianity EtcRe: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 4:52pm On Oct 02, 2013
Tgirl4real: @ Most high,

How you dey bruv? It was most refreshing seeing you guys on that thread.

So, so refreshing. smiley
smiley

More refreshing for me to see you in the fathers field doing his works.

Light without end Tgirl4real, thats the frequency you are operating on now
Christianity EtcRe: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 1:42pm On Oct 02, 2013
Tgirl4real: In a nut shell, Jesus is the reincarnation of Michael?
Reincarnation proper. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 1:23pm On Oct 02, 2013
shdemidemi: It remains a miracle how people miss the gospel of Christ or mix it with that of the law. Apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit presented a gospel that imputed righteousness apart from the law. A righteousness separate from the law but mankind would fight all they can to allude righteousness to themselves.

The law could not nail sin, it couldn't reveal the sinfulness of sin but Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh and nailed sin once and for all.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 1:19pm On Oct 02, 2013
shdemidemi: It remains a miracle how people miss the gospel of Christ or mix it with that of the law. Apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit presented a gospel that imputed righteousness apart from the law but mankind would fight all they can to allude righteousness to themselves.

The law could not nail sin, it couldn't reveal the sinfulness of sin but Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh and nailed sin once and for all.
And yet after presenting that so called gospel of IMPUTING RIGHTOUSNESS APART FROM THE LAW. Apostle paul still obeyed the LAWS of the most high God.

Mr shdemidemi why is your case different?
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 1:17pm On Oct 02, 2013
kingk: (Righteousness is just an extension or attribute of being holy) nice saying,

The most high God is HOLY. But we can also be holy............ Nonetheless I ask again, can a sinner be righteous?, knowing that righteousness is from thy works.
There is no way a man living in sin can be said to be rightouse.

Thats just plain silly talk.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 1:16pm On Oct 02, 2013
TinyPurpleBaby: Most High are you aware of the fact of you being a comedian? lmaoooo@ Shadow chasers cheesy
My dearly beloved Sistah.smiley I just say it as I see it.

Wassup TPB.

How is winniempeg today.

Blessed.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 12:50pm On Oct 02, 2013
kingk: Wow! Bro thanks but what does this bible verse explain with being righteous Gen15:6  And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Now I believe righteousness is from what we do, when you do what's right, you're righteous.......also we're not called to be righteous but unto Holiness.
The most high God is HOLY.

Rightousness is just an extension or attribute of being holy.

You are quite right we are called to be holy, and he that is set apart will surely do rightousness.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 12:13pm On Oct 02, 2013
Goshen360: Then those people are simply following SHADOWS, not the SUBSTANCE!!! And with the SHADOWS, the worshipers are never perfect, coming to maturity and they keep repeating same rituals year-in-year out!!!
In essence what you are saying is that even Yashua ibn joseph and all the apostles and even paul himself are SHADOW CHASERS as you put it. grin

Seeing that they all obeyed the laws of the most high God till the very end as is testified by all of scripture.


Even though these men had become perfect even as thier father is perfect they still obeyed the LAW

Even though these men were aware of the true substance they still upheld the LAW".

Mr Goshen why is your case different. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 11:20am On Oct 02, 2013
ayoku777: The thing tire me o. Do you become a bastard everytime you do something your father doesn't like? A christian is not a sinner, even if he sins. Every sin is a sin, no small sin no big sin, and the sin grieves the Holy Spirit alike. Every sin is an imperfection caused by our unreformed soul, but it doesn't revoke our righteousness or unregenerate our regenerated spirit in Christ.

The righteousness of Christ is what justifies us.
And he doesn't take it back each time we sin until we repent.

And we shouldn't even be overly concerned about sin or not sinning. We should focus on the glory of Christ, to behold it and to bring it forth. That will bring us unto perfection faster than any other method of making christians do right.
Dont be too liberal with the truth.

Commiting a sin and living in sin are not the same thing.

To live in in sin is to have a sin nature

If you cannot confess to your own errors and failings then you most definately have a sin nature

Confession is good for the soul.smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 11:14am On Oct 02, 2013
Goshen360: You be olodo!!! grin Quote me where I said the above. That's why you read both scriptures and people's comments BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. I have always said READ OR STUDY THE OT WITH THE EYES OR LENS OF THE NT. That's when you get the revelation of the word. The law was a SHADOW of GOOD THINGS to come, so when u studying it, don't interpret as ENFORCEMENT OF IT'S PHYSICAL ACTS ON BELIEVERS but as good things that is to happen to believers. Do you physically or literally carry out one of the feasts today?
grin grin grin grin

Thought you said you are out to destroy the LAW.

This your song is a new tune I never heard before.

Never heard you say "study the law"

And before I forget there are millions of christians (Easten Orthodox and Oriental orthodoxy) please note "not christopagans" that still observe literally and physically certain feast days, the sabbaths and vows as is commanded within the torah. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by MostHigh: 10:20am On Oct 02, 2013
obadiah777: tiz all jokes chief. nothing malicious wink wink
Toooop morning to you brother.smiley

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