I asked you before, I ask again.. What way of life are we really suppose to emulate...

Does emulating Christ mean I should do all he did literally?

Should I try to die for mankind?

I believe following Christ and emulating him simply means following his teachings

What choice?
The scripture says God controls our thoughts and choices when we have His Spirit in us. Even when we think we are making a choice out of our own volition, we unconsciously choose for God.

The bible says Romans 8:30

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


He knew us before we were born, He knows our next move and our destination, He called us to himself for He said we did not choose him but He chose us and He justifies us. What really do I have to do here, it's all God that works in me to even think about Him or do any work. Where is my choice here bro?

Do you really think Paul chose to preach this gospel? No. God apprehended him, he arrested him, He chose him just like He does to anyone who is alive in the faith.

Jesus also called all the twelve, none chose him. We remain dead until God calls us, therefore no man can preach any man to salvation, we can only talk. God does the finish work through his word or through disaster.

That verse actually says 'Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me' and not follow my way of life. I believe Christ is saying listen to what I am saying to you, different from literally do what I am doing. I believe Jesus is perfect, I believe no man can by any self ability but by believing the gospel of Christ we are made right in the sight of God.

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What choice?
The scripture says God controls our thoughts and choices when we have His Spirit in us. Even when we think we are making a choice out of our own volition, we unconsciously choose for God.

Mr President:

Sire, I fear for the evil these people are peddling. Deceptive and deceitful doctrines propounded by demons and propagated by their agents.

Yashua told us he is the way to The Father, he also told us to learn of Him.

Mathew 11:29
29 Take my yoke upon you,and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

It is by walking the way Yashua walked that we can have access to the Father. These people have refused to keep the commands of Yashua, they can never know the Father, He will never manifest Himself to them!

shdemidemi:

The best way I can back that up is by saying Christ did not come as flesh or a mere mortal but he came like one of us, like sinful flesh. He came pure without the gene of Adam. He could not sin because he was pure but every human carry the sinful nature inherited through Adam. I do not have a righteousness of my own, I cannot present any righteousness before God because its all like filthy rag before him but by the blood of Christ, I am hid under his righteousness. God now works in me both to will and do of His (God's)good pleasure if I truly have His Spirit in me.

Deschil: How about Job and Enoch Dem get 2 heads

shdemidemi:

We don't know Jesus in the flesh anymore, we can't do the works he did. The difference between Jesus and every other man is that Jesus had no sin nature. The only standard is to believe the gospel of Christ, by doing this we are led by God himself through the help of the Holy Spirit.

TinyPurpleBaby:

Lmao...not false weight, price inflation due to fuel....MAN MUSS CHOPU NA!

shdemidemi:

What Paul did or did not do is not a standard for us. I have read your arguments about how Paul took part in the the Jewish order. Of course you have a point but the man made it clear that he did all he did to win some even among his brethren and his countrymen according to the flesh.

The word of God remains the only sure word of prophecy. The word says our righteousness as Christians is not measured by the deeds of the law but through Christ.

Tgirl4real: @ Most high,

How you dey bruv? It was most refreshing seeing you guys on that thread.

So, so refreshing.

Tgirl4real:

In a nut shell, Jesus is the reincarnation of Michael?

shdemidemi:

It remains a miracle how people miss the gospel of Christ or mix it with that of the law. Apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit presented a gospel that imputed righteousness apart from the law. A righteousness separate from the law but mankind would fight all they can to allude righteousness to themselves.

The law could not nail sin, it couldn't reveal the sinfulness of sin but Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh and nailed sin once and for all.

shdemidemi:

It remains a miracle how people miss the gospel of Christ or mix it with that of the law. Apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit presented a gospel that imputed righteousness apart from the law but mankind would fight all they can to allude righteousness to themselves.

The law could not nail sin, it couldn't reveal the sinfulness of sin but Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh and nailed sin once and for all.

kingk:

(Righteousness is just an extension or attribute of being holy) nice saying,

The most high God is HOLY. But we can also be holy............ Nonetheless I ask again, can a sinner be righteous?, knowing that righteousness is from thy works.

TinyPurpleBaby:

Most High are you aware of the fact of you being a comedian? lmaoooo@ Shadow chasers

kingk:

Wow! Bro thanks but what does this bible verse explain with being righteous Gen15:6  And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Now I believe righteousness is from what we do, when you do what's right, you're righteous.......also we're not called to be righteous but unto Holiness.

Goshen360:

Then those people are simply following SHADOWS, not the SUBSTANCE!!! And with the SHADOWS, the worshipers are never perfect, coming to maturity and they keep repeating same rituals year-in-year out!!!

ayoku777:

The thing tire me o. Do you become a bastard everytime you do something your father doesn't like? A christian is not a sinner, even if he sins. Every sin is a sin, no small sin no big sin, and the sin grieves the Holy Spirit alike. Every sin is an imperfection caused by our unreformed soul, but it doesn't revoke our righteousness or unregenerate our regenerated spirit in Christ.

The righteousness of Christ is what justifies us.
And he doesn't take it back each time we sin until we repent.

And we shouldn't even be overly concerned about sin or not sinning. We should focus on the glory of Christ, to behold it and to bring it forth. That will bring us unto perfection faster than any other method of making christians do right.

Goshen360:

You be olodo!!! Quote me where I said the above. That's why you read both scriptures and people's comments BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. I have always said READ OR STUDY THE OT WITH THE EYES OR LENS OF THE NT. That's when you get the revelation of the word. The law was a SHADOW of GOOD THINGS to come, so when u studying it, don't interpret as ENFORCEMENT OF IT'S PHYSICAL ACTS ON BELIEVERS but as good things that is to happen to believers. Do you physically or literally carry out one of the feasts today?

obadiah777: tiz all jokes chief. nothing malicious

shdemidemi:

This is exactly where the problem lies, you have quoted the scriptures quite rightly but the book of revelation has nothing to do with This gospel of Grace or the present church. The book of revelation is the dispensation of works and not the Holy Spirit, the jews would have to work through perilous times to be saved.

Tgirl4real:


hahahahaha...

Whatz d difference between doing the works of God and living the life of God.

All na semantics my brother.

Jesus is our example, how did he live?

Tgirl4real:

lol.

And who could that be?


@ Goshen,

Continue what exactly? I'm not ignorant of what you posted, neither did I say I don't know what scriptures say about Grace n salvation.

I will only leave you with this scripture:

Ephesians 2:8-10King James Version (KJV)

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9Not of works, lest any man shouldboast.10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

It's a complete package. U are saved so that you will do the works of your father just like your master Jesus Christ.

Tgirl4real: Eku ile o.

How una dey?

If una no miss me..me sef no miss you.

christemmbassey: d only meaningfull post u'v ever made, that's TRUE,KEEP IT UP.

christemmbassey: child dedication is NOT A CHRISTIAN PRACTICE, d fraudstars who collect tithe uses it as another tool to steal from ppl. WE DON'T DO CHILD DEDICATION IN OUR CHURCH.

Goshen360: Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Matthew 23:2

The verse 2 follow up to verse 1 on what Christ SAID TO THE MULTITUDE AND TO HIS DISCIPLES. Christ is about to start a 'teaching', so to say or an 'instruction'. To who? The multitudes and to his disciples. Disciples are simple followers of Christ. Therefore, at this very time Christ spoke to his disciples, the 12 primarily but by extension, we can say, it extended to Christians because we, Christians are followers of Christ.

Now, Christ brought in the scribes and the Pharisees. Who are the scribes and who are the Pharisees?

The scribes are those learned in the Mosaic law and in the sacred writings, an interpreter, teacher. Scribes examined the more difficult and subtle questions of the law; they added to the Mosaic law decisions of various kinds thought to elucidate its meaning and scope, and did this to the detriment of religion. Since the advice of men skilled in the law was needed in the examination in the causes and the solution of the difficult questions, they were enrolled in the Sanhedrin; and are mentioned in connection with the priests and elders of the people. They are religious teacher of the Mosaic law: so instructed that, from his learning and ability to teach advantage may redound to the kingdom of heaven

The Pharisees are sect that seems to have started after the Jewish exile. In addition to OT books the Pharisees recognized in oral tradition a standard of belief and life. They sought for distinction and praise by outward observance of external rites and by outward forms of piety, and such as ceremonial washings, fasting, prayers, and alms giving; and, comparatively negligent of genuine piety, they prided themselves on their fancied good works. They held strenuously to a belief in the existence of good and evil angels, and to the expectation of a Messiah; and they cherished the hope that the dead, after a preliminary experience either of reward or of penalty in Hades, would be recalled to life by him, and be requited each according to his individual deeds. In opposition to the usurped dominion of the Herods and the rule of the Romans, they stoutly upheld the theocracy and their country's cause, and possessed great influence with the common people. According to Josephus they numbered more than 6000. They were bitter enemies of Jesus and his cause; and were in turn severely rebuked by him for their avarice, ambition, hollow reliance on outward works, and affection of piety in order to gain popularity.

Alwaystrue: Titus 2:11-14
11 For the GRACE of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every LAWLESS deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

Goshen360:

Who is talking about government law here? Is traffic law in the law of Moses? What is wrong with you that you can't comprehend simple message? Are Christians given the laws that was given to Moses for Israel? If you think so, then give us scriptures. Thank you.

Goshen360:



Because God took away one (the law covenant) to establish the new (the covenant of Grace). People keep teaching laws of Moses to Christians not knowing they are teaching Christians or giving them strength and ability to sin more. Law is the strength of sin. So, you ser someone hammering on law, such have the strength of sinning. Christ is the CURE FOR SIN not the law of Moses!!!

obadiah777: what Goshen lacks is application. his scripture and topics do not address or reference whats happening in the world today. he has one of these fantasy doctrines that stays in a vacuum of its own and is totally unrelated and unconnected to the world we live in