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obadiah777: STONE IS WORD AS IN 'SPEECH'. LIKE IF I START CURSING YOU, I AM THROWING STONES AT YOU. IF I AM SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT THE BIBLE THEN STONE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

BREAD IS AMBIGUOUS. BREAD AS IN 'THOU SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE' MEANS YOU CANNOT LIVE BY ONLY THE CARNAL THINGS IN LIFE. BREAD ALSO MEANS THE WORD OF GOD. JUST AS WATER MEANS KNOWLEDGE BUT WATERS MEANS PEOPLE. ITS OLD ENGLISH. GET USED TO OLD ENGLISH BROS THE ENGLISH USED IN BIBLICAL DAYS IS DIFFERENT FROM ENGLISH APPLICATION TODAY. VIRGIN FOR EXAMPLE MEANS 'UNWED' ETC ETC ETC

Atheist:-D:
So what is a true Christian meant to do.... keep the Jewish law or continue with the current Christian laws and way of worship? Also, what if certain Christian denominations start to do things differently from the rest? Will it be tolerated or will they be condemned?

People want to condemn the Anglicans and Episcopalians for pursuing the gay bishop issue but couldnt one argue that even worshipping on a day differwent to the Jewish sabbath was heretical and punishable by death?

obadiah777: 44 And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men. [DID jesus give them wealth] LOAVES IS THE WORD. AS WELL AS MILK, MEAT, HONEY, BREAD AND OIL. THEY ALL MEAN THE WORD. HE PREACHED TO FIVE THOUSAND OR SO MEN

45 And straightway he constrained his disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side before unto Bethsaida, while he sent away the people. [how do u interpret this] TAKE THE WORD TO BETHSAIDA AFTER THEY HAD WATCHED HIM PREACH TO THE PEOPLE HE JUST SENT AWAY. THEY GOT AN EXAMPLE ON HOW IT IS DONE BY WATCHING HIM, NOW GO AND TAKE THE WORD TO BETHSAIDA

46 And when he had sent them away, he departed into a mountain to pray. . [HOW DO YOU INTERPRETE THis]
SENT THEM TO BETHSAIDA WHILE HE WENT TO PRAY ALONE

47 And when even was come, the ship was in the midst of the sea, and he alone on the land. [how do yu interpret this]

HIS DISCIPLES WERE SPREADING THE WORD TO THE PEOPLES WHILE HE WASNT.

48 And he saw them toiling in rowing[THIS]; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them. [THIS] HE SAW THEM STRUGGLING AGAINST THE REPROBATE AND BELLIGERENT ROWDY SCOFFERS AND HE WALKED UP TO THE SCOFFERS AND BATTLED THEM

49 But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:[How do yu interprete cried out] THEY SAW HIM BATTLING THE ROWDY BELLIGERENT CROWD AND PREVAILED AGAINST THEM, SOMETHING ALL 12 OF THEM COULDNT DO, AND THEY WERE SCARED THINKING HE WAS SOME DEMON ( THATS ONE DEFINITION OF A SPIRIT = DEMON )

50 For they all saw him, and were troubled. And immediately he talked with them, and saith unto them, Be of good cheer: it is I; be
not afraid. [how do yu interprete it is i be not afraid] DONT BE SCARED IT IS ME, THE SAME ME YOU KNOW, NOT NO DEMON, DONT BE AFRAID

51 And he went up unto them into the ship; [did he go up into the word] and the wind ceased: and they were sore amazed in themselves beyond measure, and
wondered.
INSTEAD OF LEAVING THEM ALONE TO PREACH BY THEMSELVES HE JOINED THEM AND THE PEOPLE RESPONDED POSITIVELY TO THEIR DOCTRINE AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEIR CONFIDENCE STARTED GROWING. BEFORE HE LEFT THEM ALONE TO SEE HOW THEIR FAITH WOULD BE BUT THEY FAILED. NOW HE IS TAKING THEM BY THE HAND, BABY-STEPS. DOING IT WITH THEM AND THEIR CONFIDENCE IS GROWING.



THERE GO YOUR ANSWER DESIKA

obadiah777: 44 And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men. [DID jesus give them wealth] LOAVES IS THE WORD. AS WELL AS MILK, MEAT, HONEY, BREAD AND OIL. THEY ALL MEAN THE WORD. HE PREACHED TO FIVE THOUSAND OR SO MEN

45 And straightway he constrained his disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side before unto Bethsaida, while he sent away the people. [how do u interpret this] TAKE THE WORD TO BETHSAIDA AFTER THEY HAD WATCHED HIM PREACH TO THE PEOPLE HE JUST SENT AWAY. THEY GOT AN EXAMPLE ON HOW IT IS DONE BY WATCHING HIM, NOW GO AND TAKE THE WORD TO BETHSAIDA

46 And when he had sent them away, he departed into a mountain to pray. . [HOW DO YOU INTERPRETE THis]
SENT THEM TO BETHSAIDA WHILE HE WENT TO PRAY ALONE

47 And when even was come, the ship was in the midst of the sea, and he alone on the land. [how do yu interpret this]

HIS DISCIPLES WERE SPREADING THE WORD TO THE PEOPLES WHILE HE WASNT.

48 And he saw them toiling in rowing[THIS]; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them. [THIS] HE SAW THEM STRUGGLING AGAINST THE REPROBATE AND BELLIGERENT ROWDY SCOFFERS AND HE WALKED UP TO THE SCOFFERS AND BATTLED THEM

49 But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:[How do yu interprete cried out] THEY SAW HIM BATTLING THE ROWDY BELLIGERENT CROWD AND PREVAILED AGAINST THEM, SOMETHING ALL 12 OF THEM COULDNT DO, AND THEY WERE SCARED THINKING HE WAS SOME DEMON ( THATS ONE DEFINITION OF A SPIRIT = DEMON )

50 For they all saw him, and were troubled. And immediately he talked with them, and saith unto them, Be of good cheer: it is I; be
not afraid. [how do yu interprete it is i be not afraid] DONT BE SCARED IT IS ME, THE SAME ME YOU KNOW, NOT NO DEMON, DONT BE AFRAID

51 And he went up unto them into the ship; [did he go up into the word] and the wind ceased: and they were sore amazed in themselves beyond measure, and
wondered.
INSTEAD OF LEAVING THEM ALONE TO PREACH BY THEMSELVES HE JOINED THEM AND THE PEOPLE RESPONDED POSITIVELY TO THEIR DOCTRINE AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEIR CONFIDENCE STARTED GROWING. BEFORE HE LEFT THEM ALONE TO SEE HOW THEIR FAITH WOULD BE BUT THEY FAILED. NOW HE IS TAKING THEM BY THE HAND, BABY-STEPS. DOING IT WITH THEM AND THEIR CONFIDENCE IS GROWING.



THERE GO YOUR ANSWER DESIKA

DrummaBoy: @Ayokun

I was trying to send this via Facebook but couldnt find you there.

I was reading Galatians 5 yesterday and was surprised to see that Paul's train of discuss followed what you advocate

- Keep the liberty of the Spirit
- Law abolished
- Walk in the Spirit
- Bear the Fruit of the Spirit

U mention the third item often in your discuss but have never elaborated on it. Will U pls show us on a new thread what it means to walk in the Spirit, Obey the Spirit, etc, as a NT injunction.

Hopefully that will put an end to those who argue that proponents of the gospel of grace are lawless.

obadiah777: TO THE LORD BELONGETH THE KNOWLEDGE BROTHER MOSTHIGH. TRUST ALL IS GOING WELL WITH YOUR WEEKEND. HAPPY SABBATH

obadiah777: YOU ERR. LIVE AT PEACE WITH ALL MEN DOES NOT MEAN YOU DONT HAVE ENEMIES WHO ARE NOT TRYING TO LIVE AT PEACE WITH YOU. THIS COMMANDMENT WILL ONLY BE OBEYED BY THOSE WHO ARE IN THE LORD. JACOB AND ESAU CAN NEVER RECONCILE UNLESS IN CHRIST. ANY JACOB AND ESAU OUTSIDE OF CHRIST ARE ENEMIES AND WILL REMAIN ENEMIES. THE LORD HAS DONE IT THAT WAY SO THEY CAN REFINE EACH OTHER IN THE FURNACE OF AFFLICTION. THATS WHY THE WHITE MAN TOOK MILLIONS OF YOUR PEOPLE AND OWNED THEM AS PROPERTY IN THE AMERICAS FOR CENTURIES, THATS WHY THE WHITE MAN COLONIZED YOU, THATS WHY YOU HAVE UNFAIR TRADE, THATS WHY THE WHITE MAN DOES NOT LIKE YOU, THATS WHY YOU ARE THE LAST HIRED AND FIRST FIRED, THATS WHY YOU HAD THOUSANDS OF LYNCHINGS IN AMERICA, THATS WHY YOU HAD THOUSANDS KILLED IN SOUTH AFRICA, THE CONGO MASSACRE BY THE BELGIANS, THE ASHANTI MASSACRE BY THE BRITISH, MASSACRE OF SLAVES IN SURINAME AND HAITI, COUNTLESS OF MASSACRES THAT I CANT REMEMBER. THATS THE LORD WHO SET IT UP LIKE THAT. YOU ARE IN HELL AND THE WHITE MAN IS THE LORDS SWORD USED AGAINST YOU. THIS IS CALLED BEING REFINED IN THE FURNACE OF AFFLICTION. AND IT WILL REMAIN LIKE THIS TILL THE SECOND COMING. THE ONLY WHITE PERSON ( ESAU ) AND BLACK PERSON ( JACOB ) WHO WILL BREAK THAT BARRIER OF HATE THE LORD HAS CREATED ARE THOSE WHO COME INTO THE SANCTUARY OF THE LORD. ITS THE STORY OF LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN. THERE IS A WIDE GULF OF DIVIDE BETWEEN US THAT CANNOT BE CROSSED EXCEPT IN CHRIST. THE EMPIRE ON TOP NOW IS THE WHITE MANS EMPIRE ( ROMAN ) AND AS SUCH HE HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OF THOSE HE HATES, WHICH IS YOU. THATS WHY YOUR RELATIVES WERE USED AS PROPERTY IN AMERICA FOR 400 YEARS. BUT YOU ARE TOO STU-PID TO SEE THE SPIRITUAL MEANING OF ALL THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT GONE INTO THE LORDS SANCTUARY FOR MEANING, THE SANCTUARY IS THE WORD.
PSALM 73 VS 16 When I thought to know this,it was too painful for me; until I went into the sanctuary of God;then understood I their end.




PSALMS 17 VS 13 Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword << LORD USING THE WHITE MAN AS HIS SWORD AGAINST YOU

HABBAKUKK 1 VS 12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction. <<< HE IS THE RED HORSE USED TO PUNISH YOU. HE AINT YOUR FRIEND. I WILL PUT AN ENMITY BETWEEN HER SEED AND YOUR SEED.

obadiah777: YUP. TOO LATE FOR THAT NOW THOUGH. WHEN HE RETURNS HE WILL FIX THAT PROBLEM. EVERY NATION WILL KEEP TO THEMSELVES AND THE ONLY RACIALLY HARMONIZED NATION WOULD BE ISRAEL BECAUSE ALL THOSE WHO MAKE IT WILL HAVE INCORRUPTIBLE SPIRITS SO THEY WOULD NOT SEE EACH OTHER AS A COLOR OR ANY OTHER CARNAL CLASSIFICATION. ALL THOSE OUTSIDE OF HEAVEN WOULD STILL HOLD ON TO THEIR CARNAL MINDS HOWEVER THIS TIME AROUND THEY WOULD BE LESS DANGEROUS BECAUSE ALL WEAPONS WOULD BE CONVERTED TO PLOWSHARES AND NATIONS WOULD NOT KNOW WAR ANYMORE. AND THEY WOULD ALL BE SUBJECT TO ISRAELS LAWS. THE LWAS WOULD COME FROM THOSE WHO MAKE IT. WE WOULD RULE THE WORLD IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

DrummaBoy: *DrummaBoy returns to thread...*

We had a certain MostHigh come here using high sounding Jewish terminologies to advocate law keeping, including the Sabbath.

None of the neo-Judaizers saw anything wrong with his discuss bc he advocates the law and the tithe.

Que: How many Pentecostal, tithe collecting churches keep the Sabbath or fellowship on Sunday? Answer: nill.

Deduction: If the keeping of the Sabbath brought any monetary gain, modern day Pentecostal would have subscribed to it. Same way they have re-enacted the firstfruit. They do not practice Sabbath honoring, not bc they understand that the law has been abolished, but bc there is nothing to GAIN from it.

Conclusion: I am saying that it is either we keep the whole law or we consider the law abolished in Jesus' cross. Keeping some that benefit us and abolishing others is hypocrisy and it is equal ot breaking the whole law.

Goshen360: @ DrummaBoy,

Your above comment is exactly what the judaizers in Paul's days did, they use some part of the Torah and make GAINS out of it. There's a scripture that says that but I might bring it up later.

shdemidemi: Go and read your bible properly, when you see forever, there is always an admonition. Forever is always at the end of the covenant. Any where a blood sacrifice is made by God, it signifies the end of a dispensation.

shdemidemi: Dont come here and display your lack of manners. Go read the scriptures properly instead of relegating into cheeky jabs and insults.

obadiah777: ALL VAIN OPINIONS. YOU OUGHT TO BE FLOGGED FOR BRINGING IN HERESIES

Boomark: ^^So this is what you bought from the yeast market of truth? No bread for you this coming festival.

shdemidemi: my question-what is the significance of the blood of christ? was the blood mentioned in mathew mark luke and john? if not,do you know why it wasn't?

I believe your brother can help you out, I believe he is in the darker part of ignorance.

shdemidemi: John 6:48

Amplified Bible (AMP)

48 I am the Bread of Life [that gives life—the Living Bread].

what does yeast do to bread? does it not change it from its original form. When you infer, make sure it points back to Christ.

When i say Christ is our passover, think about the day of passover where Israelites were told to kill a lamb and put the blood on lintels and doorpost. The blood of the lamb saved them from the spirit of death. In a similar way, the blood of Christ is our passover that saves a believer from death.

obadiah777: HE WILL SOON LEARN WHAT HAPPENS TO REPROBATES LIKE HIM. THERE IS A NUKE SOMEWHERE WITH HIS NAME WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. ALL HE GOTTA DO IS WAIT FOR THE NUKE. IT WILL NOT TARRY

shdemidemi: You err all the time. In fact, you should use err as your middle name.The secrets were not revealed to obadiah777 according to scriptures.

Ephesians 3:2-4)

2 Assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace (His unmerited favor) that was entrusted to me [to dispense to you] for your benefit,

3 [And] that the mystery (secret) was made known to me and I was allowed to comprehend it by direct revelation, as I already briefly wrote you.

4 When you read this you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ.

shdemidemi stop calling the name of Christ, you confessed to us that he is not your king.

Why are you insistent on taking people down with you?

obadiah777: VAIN OPINION. WHERE IN SCRIPTURE DOES IT SAY YEAST REPRESENT ADULTERATION OF THE WORD ?

shdemidemi: why are you avoiding my question? no one is gonna scold you, i promise.

DrummaBoy: Most High, read and answer

COLOSIAN 2:16

It answers both the question of the sabath, tithe and every law you are calling us to observe

Boomark: You should have used your spanner on my bible quotes which you have avoid all these while.

But let me put sand in this your kpoff kpoff.

Which market can we get the yeast of malice and wickedness and also the yeast of sincerity and truth for my bread? I need the yeast urgently for the festival.

christemmbassey: this guy's cognition, i realised how serious his condition is and never attemp a conversation with him, if u talk about shoe he will reply u with cow most times he sounds like substance abuser, u try sha.

shdemidemi: yes i have. christians worship in spirit and in truth, no ritual of any kind is permitted. Christ is the passover and the bread is the Word while the yeast represents people like you who add or take out of the gospel.
Now answer my elementary question--
what is the significance of the blood of christ? was the blood mentioned in mathew mark luke and john? if not,do you know why it wasn't?

obadiah777: GOOD QUESTION. I SAY THEY ARE BOTH. THEY STARTED CALLING THEM CHRISTIANS AS A DEROGATORY NAME IN ANTIOCH

DrummaBoy: MostHigh has totally betrayed his thinking by that thread he opened arguing for Sabbath worship. That is the foundation on which he argues for the law.

Where do you begin with an individual like that?

The likes of Bidam, Image123, and Ihedinobi can still be accommodated but MostHigh is way off