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shdemidemi: So, I should be a proselyte to be Part of the Lords people?..how does "I am the way" mean I should become a Jew ? Where was I thought to be like a Jew to be saved?
See, criteria for salvation is believing Christ died and Ressurected. SIMPLE.

Oracles of God means initial word and knowledge of God.

shdemidemi: Explain this


Acts 15:14-15
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
14 Simon Peter has told us how God showed his love for the non-Jewish people. For the first time, God accepted them and made them his people. 15 The words of the prophets agree with this too:

shdemidemi: Abraham is the father of all those who believe but are not circumcised(Gentiles)and the Jews ....don't come here and be talking through your limited knowledge.

shdemidemi: Are you a Jew man,tell me how Yeshua told you, you can be saved? Only 1 man tells Gentiles how to be saved. Seem you just locked your mind and reasoning cos you are just stuck in one spot for no reason. What essence is the Holy Spirit if everything has been done by Christ? If you want to be stiff necked like that, good luck at it bro.

shdemidemi: You won't be judged by anything written in the Old Testament nor by Christ (tough, I know) nor by any other apostle but by the gospel of grace given to Apostle Paul--
Apostle Pauls gospel was in 3 dimensions LOVE,FAITH and HOPE. Therefore, if he isn't teaching about love it will be faith or hope of the coming of Christ. Any teacher that wants to teach this must exhibit these 3 attributes- 1tim1:5
love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith.

shdemidemi: True say..but note, a gentile believer don't repent only Jews repent. All we do is renewal of our mind with the word of God

shdemidemi: the kingdom is of the Jews and eternal life is for this mythical body. Some Gentiles came to see Christ during Passover festival, He saw them and He spoke in parables cos they were not part of the fold yet-

20 There were some Greeks there too. These were some of the people who went to Jerusalem to worship at the Passover festival. 21 They went to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee. They said, “Sir, we want to meet Jesus.” 22 Philip went and told Andrew. Then Andrew and Philip went and told Jesus.

23 Jesus said to them, “The time has come for the Son of Man to receive his glory. 24 It is a fact that a grain of wheat must fall to the ground and die before it can grow and produce much more wheat. If it never dies, it will never be more than a single seed. 25 Whoever loves the life they have now will lose it. But whoever is willing to give up their life in this world will keep it. They will have eternal life.

That proverb is similar to a seed you under the soil..it multiplies. Christ had to resurrect for the gentile to have an opportunity of being save. Now we are benefitials of the promise giving to Abraham because we are sons of Abraham through faith.

obadiah777: I DIDNT KNOW YOU WAS ON THIS FORUM IN JANUARY @ MOSTHIGH. I SWEAR I THOUGHT YOU JOINED LIKE A FEW DAYS AGO OR SOMETHING.

Pastor Kun: Stop being ridiculous just because you want to protect your tithe scam. It is very clear from several passages in scripture that the Jewish laws is not a part of the gospel handed down to believers. Judaizers like yourself tried to smuggle in parts of the law when the apostles were still around and the issue was thoroughly addressed in Acts 15 were they made it clear that christians are not subject to the law.

jeffrey t: Now I know you are just trying to piss me off. Peace

shdemidemi: Did I quote my words there

Acts 15:14
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
14 Simon Peter has told us how God showed his love for the non-Jewish people. For the first time, God accepted them and made them his people.

This is according to the prophesies from the book of Amos

Amos 9:11-12

Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
God Promises to Restore the Kingdom

11 “David’s tent[a] has fallen,
but at that time I will set it up again.
I will fix its holes and repair its ruined parts.
I will set it up as it was before.
12 Then the people left alive in Edom,
and all the people called by my name, will look to me for help.”
This is what the Lord said,
and he will make it happen.

shdemidemi: God the son, Jesus Christ as we all know him came for the Jews. He was meant to be the king of the Jews the Jews had been waiting for as foretold by their fathers but they killed the king. They didn't believe He was Christ , they expected him to come in all majesty but He decided to come as humble as He did. They were expecting a big ovation but Christ came silently. They expected him to come from v.i but the man decided to come from Okoro.



43 The next day Jesus decided to go to Galilee. He met Philip and said to him, “Follow me.” 44 Philip was from the town of Bethsaida, the same as Andrew and Peter. 45 Philip found Nathanael and told him, “We have found the man that Moses wrote about in the law. The prophets wrote about him too. He is Jesus, the son of Joseph. He is from Nazareth.”

46 But Nathanael said to Philip, “Nazareth! Can anything good come from Nazareth?”

Philip answered, “Come and see.”

They killed their king and that is the only reason why you and I are saved today. If they had received him, we would still be like the dogs as Christ described us to that cannanite woman-

22 A Canaanite woman from that area came out and began shouting, “Lord, Son of David, please help me! My daughter has a demon inside her, and she is suffering very much.”

23 But Jesus did not answer her. So the followers came to him and said, “Tell her to go away. She keeps crying out and will not leave us alone.”

24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people[a] of Israel.”

25 Then the woman came over to Jesus and bowed before him. She said, “Lord, help me!”

26 He answered her with this saying: “It is not right to take the children’s bread and give it to the dogs.”

But now, believers are the apple of God's eyes not the Jews

Ayomivic: Obadiah777! obadiah777!! Obadiah777!!! May God set you free from demonic spirit that havf possessed you.Amen
Everybody in the word knows that abstinence from food is fasting. stop equallize your self with our lord Jesus christ. Becareful of what you will build on the words of God.

thorpido: I disagree with your post.It makes u sound like a Jew.He came primarily for the Jews but by extension to the whole world.His ministry for the whole world started even while he was here on the earth.Look at the scriptures I quoted above and tell me why He made those statements?

Truckpusher: You're damn right!...now i got it,let the ministry glow and grow

shdemidemi: There is no such thing as repentance or kngdom for the gentile and for the Jews the king has come and they have rejected him. Now it's about this mystique body called the church.

shdemidemi: We have eternal life

obadiah777: TAKE NOTE OF THIS POST ATMC. SCRIPTURE SAYS MATTHEW 18 VS 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. <<< TWO WITNESSES. BROTHER MOSTHIGH AND MYSELF

obadiah777: OH TRUST ME HUN THIS IS NOT A TREND. IN THE BIBLE IT IS STRICTLY AND RIGIDLY FOLLOWED. gOD FOR IDOLS AND GOD FOR THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVEN AND EARTH.

shdemidemi: My friend , the kingdom there is of the Jews not the church. They will continue their extra years after the church has gone, through tribulation.

6 The apostles were all together. They asked Jesus, “Lord, is this the time for you to give the people of Israel their kingdom again?”

7 Jesus said to them, “The Father is the only one who has the authority to decide dates and times. They are not for you to know. 8 But the Holy Spirit will come on you and give you power. You will be my witnesses. You will tell people everywhere about me—in Jerusalem, in the rest of Judea, in Samaria, and in every part of the world.”

ATMC: ^just to add to what yu just said...jesus was called a glutton cos he loved to eat. So d probability of his staying away from what he loved which is food is 1

shdemidemi: ^^^^

I wonder what gave you the impression ?
Because reading your replies all these while has totally convinced me you are still dwelling in the past. You said I should go read Isaiah and psalms, that statement does not come across as someone who understands Gods programme. Even the Jews that these things were written to didn't decode when the Messiah that Isaiah and psalms have been prophesying about came. Now all they said has come to past but you are still there. Doing what exactly?

It is similar to the book of Revelation, there are a lot of things there we would not understand cos they are events that would happen after the first coming of Christ. Imagine someone still relating with revelation after tribulation.

Deficient ? Hmm I know I am but I am learning, I encourage you to do the same cos you are still sleeping.

The whole of the Bible was written to Jews and gentile. Your main concern is that which is written to you first, but you want to dwell on Isaiah and psalms like they were passing the message to you. Read them as FYI- for your information and not for application.

Some books were also to the scattered tribes of Israel and the Jewish believer. The only man that came for you was Paul, yet you are so adamant and rebelling like we are competing.

Bidam:

shdemidemi: Have you asked yourself the reason why Christ gave the law and the same Christ came to fulfil the same law he gave?

That scripture you said concerning Paul finishing the pharisees because of their hypocritical stance still applies to us today. don't kid yourself.
I agree with you, it applies to those who think they are still under a law. They adhere to law in parts and to grace in parts.
Paul will say - 2 Corinthians 11:30
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
30 If I must boast, I will boast about the things that show I am weak.

How can 1 who says from start, I am not infallible to tender his mistakes. But according to the law God is saying to man, prove to yourself that you are not infallible. But we couldn't because we can't. So if I make a mistake why would I hide it from you when I know you know I can make mistakes.

John was actually addressing Christians here and not those under the law. My problem with you is that you keep harping on the "pauline epistles" as if others do not speak the mind of God and do not complement all what Paul is saying..be careful. you are cherry picking and it usually leads to error.

Go to act 15 where Peter John n James went to the Jewish believers and Paul went to the gentile believers. You are not saved by John or James or peters gospel but by the gospel entrusted to Paul



Wrong Again you are saved by his grace.

But also try and fufill all rightousness

Mat 3:13 ¶ Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.


Mat 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?


Mat 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

obadiah777: HMM HMMM HMMM BROTHER MOSTHIGH THE SPIRIT IS FLOWING THROUGH YOU THIS MORNING. THIS IS POIGNANT. I COULDNT HAVE PUT IT ANY BETTER. THE BOLDED SUMMARIZES THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD HENCE REINFORCING WHAT HIS FAST WAS ABOUT WHICH WAS A FAST OF THE WORD, NOT FOOD.

Bidam: I don't quite agree that fasting Jesus did was abstinence from scripture Because Jesus is the word of God. Now how do you reconcile that? In that verse of scripture JESUS was led by the Spirit into the wilderness being full of the HOLY SPIRIT immediately his temptation began for 40 days and not after 40 days and the bible was clear that Jesus literally ate nothing.The bible only gave a record of 3 stages of temptation.Man can be tempted in area of his basic needs(food,clothing and shelter)Man can be tempted in the area of fame and fortune.i.e Babylonian wealth. Man can be tempted in the area of power to feel that he is a god and he doesn't need God anymore which is PRIDE.

Goshen360: Bidam, you and I are cool if we interpret scriptures rightly. I HAVE NEVER SAID I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE OLD. What I'm simply saying is Christian people are under a better covenant and rather than folks trying to understand and live their better covenant, they're binding themselves with the covenant that is DONE AWAY WITH. My message is simple!

obadiah777: I AM TRYING BROTHER MOSTHIGH. TOO MANY SCOFFERS AND GAINSAYERS THE TASK IS TOUGH BUT WE HAVE TO EARN OUR CROWN