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obadiah777: ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH FOOD TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THIS VERSE
LUKE 4 VS 2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. <<< PEOPLE SEE THAT HE DID NOT EAT NOTHING AND THEY ASSOCIATE FASTING WITH FOOD. HOWEVER THEY DONT KNOW THAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS IN PREPARATION FOR CHRIST TO GET TESTED LIKE HUMANS SO HE CAN SHOW THAT HE BECAME HUMAN AND TESTED AND TEMPTED JUST LIKE YOU. SO HE HAD TO BE IN ISOLATION SOMEWHERE AND AWAY FROM ANY SCROLLS TO MAKE HIM MORE TERRESTRIAL THAN CELESTIAL. IT IS THIS STAYING AWAY FROM SCROLLS THAT MEANS HE DID NOT EAT ANYTHING. WASNT TALKING ABOUT FOOD. HERE IS A PRECEPT

REVELATION 10 VS 9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. WHEN YOU READ SCRIPTURES IT IS CALLED EATING IT.

Tell them beloved of the most hig God!!

obadiah777: GOSHEN IS RIGHT. HOWEVER THE CONDITION TO HIM BEING RIGHT WILL BE
a- YOU MUST MARRY THE WOMAN AFTER THE ACT. IF YOU DONT, THATS WHAT MAKES IT FORNICATION. EXODUS 22 VS 16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife <<< YOU MUST MARRY ANY WOMAN YOU SLEEP WITH. NOT MARRYING HER IS FORNICATION.

BROTHER PASCHAL007, ONE THING YOU WILL FIND OUT IS THAT A LOT OF BIBLICAL WORDS MEANT DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN IT WAS USED THAN THEY MEAN TODAY. 'FASTING', 'VIRGIN', 'SEA', 'MOUNTAIN', 'WATER', 'STONE', 'MILK', ETC ETC. THESE WORDS DONT MEAN WHAT THEY MEAN TODAY. HENCE THE CONFUSION OF MANY FOLKS TODAY. IN THE BIBLE FOR EXAMPLE
HORN = POWER
MOUNTAIN = COUNTRY
WATER = KNOWLEDGE
SEA = AN ASSORTMENT OF PEOPLE
BEAST = EMPIRE
VIRGIN = UNWED WOMAN ETC ETC ETC

More light please brother!!

obadiah777: OK FIRST OFF I AM QUITE AWARE THAT I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF BRINGING IN DIFFERENT DOCTRINE BUT >>>
MARK 1 VS 22 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes

MARK 1 VS 27 And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? SO BASICALLY THESE WERE QUESTIONS ASKED OF THE MASSES WHEN CHRIST CAME WITH HIS DOCTRINE. SO IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT FOR YOU TO HAVE THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, YOU SHOULD BE GETTING THIS KIND OF RESPONSES FROM THE PEOPLE. IF PEOPLE DONT LOOK AT YOUR DOCTRINE IN ASTONISHMENT, THEN YOU MAY JUST BE PREACHING THE DOCTRINE OF DEMONS WHICH WOULD NOT BE AN ASTONISHMENT BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD LIETH IN WICKEDNESS.

I DIGRESS. SO WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT FASTING HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ABSTINENCE FROM FOOD AND THAT CHRIST DID NOT GO 40 DAYS WITHOUT EATING ? WHAT IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOUR IDEA OF WHAT FASTING IS IS A DOCTRINE OF DEMONS STARTED BY THE PARISEES ?. OK LETS GET INTO IT
MARK 2 VS 18 and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not? SO THEY COME ASKING HIM HOW COME HE AND HIS DISCIPLES DONT FAST ?

MARK 2 VS 19 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. << SO BASICALLY HE IS SAYING THAT HE IS THEIR PURPOSE AND SO LONG AS HE IS THEIR THEY HAVE A JOB TO DO. THE CHILDREN OF THE BRIDE-CHAMBER HAVE A PURPOSE TO THE BRIDEGROOM TO ENSURE THAT HE IS COMFORTABLE AND ENSURE HIS WEDDING GOES SMOOTH WITH NO HITCH

MARK 2 VS 20 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. THE DAY HE WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEM WHICH WOULD BE THE PERIOD BETWEEN HIS DEPARTURE AND THE SECOND COMING. IN THAT PERIOD THEIR PURPOSE WOULD BE BE GONE

SO BASICALLY FOR A TERRESTRIAL BEING PRONE TO SIN, FASTING IS BEING AWAY FROM YOUR SOURCE OF LIGHT. FROM YOUR PURPOSE

WHILE FOR A CELESTIAL BEING LIKE CHRIST FASTING WILL ALSO BE STAYING AWAY FROM HIS PURPOSE. EVERY-TIME HE WENT ALONE INTO THE WILDERNESS TO BE ALONE, HE WAS AWAY FROM HIS PURPOSE OF TEACHING THE PEOPLE. WHEN HE STAYED IN THE WILDERNESS ALONE FOR 40 DAYS AND FORTY NIGHTS, HE WAS FASTING MEANING HE WAS AWAY FROM HIS PURPOSE OF TEACHING THE PEOPLE.

SO FASTING IS BEING AWAY FROM YOUR DIVINE PURPOSE WHICH SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE IN HEAVY FASTING AS WE SPEAK. THEY ARE LOST.

The Demon in Goshen and his desciples cannot be removed without us being away from our true purpose which is to teach the faithfull, and by prayer

Goshen360: We will not allow the haters of grace and the grace gospel force their legalism on us.

You sound like the gentiles of old

true reincarnate lawless man

brilapluz: secondly,let me let U in on d flaws of an imperfect law dat U hold so dear..wen david saw bathsheba bathn and lustd after her and even after he found out dat it was sum1's wife,he stil went ahead 2 make love wit her..y didnt d LAW OF MOSES he zealously adhered 2 save him 4rm dese impendin chains of sin dat even led him 2 bcome a murderer by killn uriah,bathsheba's husband..?
2 samuel 11:1-27

I dont get the connection

shdemidemi: Childish attention seeker...ask questions like a cultured person if you want response.
Were you bullied or molested in your earlier years, you sound troubled.

Authority on lawlessness adultry and how to practice it safely

lawless antichrist

shdemidemi: Childish attention seeker...ask questions like a cultured person if you want response.
Were you bullied or molested in your earlier years, you sound troubled.

shdemidemi:

I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace

shdemidemi you are clearly a Demon filled God Hater, Lawless reprobate

Son of the anitchrist

shdemidemi: I say it once I say it again..
God has 3 forms- father son and spirit
They have always been together from the beginning..they are equal
God never changes but he operates in dispensation.
Unfolding Gods programme according to dispensation is an important part of mind renewal.
In the beginning God communed with man as the father. 1st dispensation
He later related with us through the saviour. Christ
Now He relates to us through His (spirit) word which He used Apostle Paul to deliver it to us

So holding on to God's word in the past or Jesus' is right but He has since moved the programme, He has put everything to the Spirit now, so you need to update. Some Jews still think God is partial with them now but God has moved. At this time the church is the apple of God's eyes although His promise to the Jews will still be fulfilled after the church.

I did not write this for you but for anyone who cares to know cos for people like you, the Bible says-
Matthew 13:13
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
13 This is why I use these stories to teach the people: They see, but they don’t really see. They hear, but they don’t really hear or understand.

1. the church is spiritual

2. Isreal is physical and upon her rest all the promises from genesis, she is still his special creation and will always be the apple of his eye.

3. If apostle paul deliverd the word to you then why only practice part of it.

Lawlessness Antichrist

Mintayo: what about the end of Abraham,what abt the end of Jacob,Isaac and even Joeseph- it your Bible very well;God blessed them all in all dimension,you ppl shld stop this false teachings- wealth is not from Satan,our God is a God of prosperity,He does not have issues with our being rich,He only have issues with being COVETOUS!
STOP THIS HERESY.

Hey Mintayo

capitalism is the explotaion of the less privilaged by the wealthy pls confirm in your dictionary

Ajnd because you were brought up as a capitalist and think as one does not make capitalism ok.

Also note that we are talking of vulgar wealth the type that most pastors worldwide have 4 jets and currencies in all denominations, including palaces unheard of while the massess suffer

the same masses are just watching like hungry birds waiting for thier time to strike

and history has taught us that strike they will

so better do away with all your excess baggage you hear me.

the contstant and agresssive aquisition of enormouse wealth goes contrary to the bible

you cannot serve God and mammon either you love one and hate the other.

shdemidemi:

I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace


Lawless son of his Antichrist father

shdemidemi: Going to church, I agree with cos the bible says

23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

But the tithes ...it is in direct opposite to the gospel of Christ (Christians) to compel people to give so as to get back, I believe that makes God a vending machine.
Tithing has no place in the gospel cos as Christians, problems,persecution are part of our walk with Christ cos the Bible says -

7 And our hope for you is steadfast, because we know that as you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.

2 Corinthians 1:7
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
7 Our hope for you is strong. We know that you share in our sufferings. So we know that you also share in our comfort.



Offerings-

16 1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come. 3 And when I come, whomever you approve by your letters I will send to bear your gift to Jerusalem.

The apostles collected gifts for the Jewish people who had accepted Christ in Jerusalem because of the famine in that land.

Although it is good to care for our pastors -

1 Thessalonians 5:12
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
Final Instructions and Greetings

12 Now brothers and sisters, we ask you to recognize the value of those who work hard among you—those who, as followers of the Lord, care for you and tell you how to live.[b][/b]

And Paul's needs was cared for atimes too, though He did not impose this-

9 And when I was present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no one, for what I lacked the brethren who came from Macedonia supplied.


Sorry for derailing, I just can't stand the tithing and conditional offering gospel.

shdemidemi:

I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace


lawless antichrist of a man.

shdemidemi:

I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace


Shey una see wetin Goshen and in brethren dey encourage.

shdemidemi: What is it with you, you are just shouting yashua yashua. Is Yashua the only one in the trinity? Was Yashua in human form in Genesis, can you see yashua in flesh right now?
It's like having water in ice,liquid and gas. In whichever form it is still water.
Your myopic argument is like saying Its only the real water I want to talk about.
Apply whatever you think with jo.
If you don't believe ask yourself if you really want to believe?

I can Infer from your tone that you are offended by the name of the son of GOD yashua Ibn Joseph, please dont be.

paul was sent to the unbelivers and you have shown yourself as such a one.

But Know this the spirirt of antichrist in you will soon meet its end.

1. All things with me and Yashua, and I love shouting the name of the master preadventure his spirit will manifest more contantly,

2. No he is not, but as the son he is the express image of all that was and is to be.

3. Of course he was you lawless coward, as it is written: In the begining was the word (the same word you hate)and the word was with GOD and the word was GOD THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING.

4. I see yashua in flesh in those that reflect the christlike spirit but unfortunately not in you my reprobate lawless fellow.

5. from you analogy above yashua would be the water and yashua would be the ice, paul can only testify about the water and ice if he is filled with the water or ice.

lawless antichrist that you are.

dougivilla: and 1st Kings3:12-13 says what? Talk to me resilient disciple of demonic obadiah777!

nowhere in verse 12 or 13 does God promise solomon vulgar wealth (which is what he had)

and like a explained to you earlier what good is the AGGRESSIVE aquisition of wealth if you are to lose your soul

Do you need God to come down and tell you this himself?

lawless gainsayer.

dougivilla: What did you learn from the psalm if you truely read it?

The psalms have no efficacy for those that are against the law
thats my point.

dougivilla: Another assignment apprentice, go and read psalm 91:1-end to know the futility of your evil gang up against God's anointed!

wetin concern lawless man with psalm?

Lawlessness.

dougivilla: You guys are trying to blindfold men's eyes, but are unfortunately failing.

How did all these your scriptures confirm that Solomon's wealth was of the devil. True, he misused the opportunity God gave Him, but to say it was not God that blessed Him is outright falsehood.

You may wish to help your senior brother the ever running-away (even from his own created thread) obadiah777 to put in black and white 1st Kings 3:12-13, which will put paid to your falsehood.

Another assignment dude: Read Gen 12:2-3, Gen13:7, Gen23:16-18, Gen24:1, Gen26:12. When you're through, let me know your opinion so I can give you a few another 5 scriptures!

God will not bless you with vulgar wealth knowing the heart of man and its weakness for carnal things.

But he can bless you with health and strenght and lenght of days which is another kind of wealth eintrly

carry on supporting the agresive aquisition of mammon as a true sign of Gods blessing

soon we shall know he truth.

And solomons end is a confirmation of this

shdemidemi: Yes a Christian can commit sin but His Belief in Christ has made him righteous through the blood of Christ.. God gave the law to reveal what sin is.you are not under the law but you now know what sin is.

THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU CAN DO THE TERRIBLE THINGS YOU DO

YOU THINK YOU ARE ABOVE THE LAW?

LAWLESSNESS.

dougivilla: Thanks! But the bone of contention has not beem whether earthly possessions are preferable to heavenly treasures, but that THE SOURCE OF ALL WEALTH AND RICHES IS THE DEVIL. Nothing could be further from the truth than that devilish assertion.

Jesus truely did not base ALL His teachings on prosperity as many pastors today do, But to claim that God can not bless a man is very false and demonic.

@obadiah777 I'm still waiting to see you quote 1st Kings3:12-13, or bactrack and repent from your falsehood! It will do you no good to continually try to mislead God's children. God's wrath is coming upon the children of disobedience! He that has an ear let him hear!

A MAN CANNOT SERVE GOD AND MAMMON EITHER HE HATE ONE AND LOVE THE OTHER.

dougivilla: Truth will always hurt, especially when you thought you had sucessfully hidden it, and then it is sudenly unveiled.

Well now that you have seen the futilty of following doctrines, philosophies, false teachings and deceptive logic, may I gladly invite you to open up to Jesus Christ, He is ready to begin afresh with you!

Isiah 1:18, (God) says come now, let us reason together ........ ;Jesus also said behold I stand at the door of your heart and knock, He is willing to come in and sup with you, only if you allow Him.

Repent and be converted, Heaven is real, so is Hell and God's judgement! Tomorrow might be too late! Just ponder brother over these things. God bless you!

See how you speak of Yashua like he is your friend

but a short while ago youwere challenging his authority.

shdemidemi: You make me laugh...God forbid.
If you want to disagree,you need to edit the Bible first.
You are talking from your head and you call someone talking scriptures antichrist. Do you even know what that means.
If you must disagree,do that through the Word of God.

ol boy na you dey ask me wether na only yashua dey the trinity

you and yashua na mates now abi?

where you not baptised in the name of yashua?

Anitchrist

Lawless man

Ihedinobi: My word! It is impossible to agree with you people, is it not?

What are you saying that is so different from what I am saying?

Do you know something? I have been low on utterance for awhile. It would seem that the Lord has gagged me for some reason. I don't find the energy readily available to deal appreciatively with issues. The energy comes, as it were, when it will. For this reason, I have very little inclination to produce an in-depth and extensive study on this matter.

So let me make this clear: there has only ever been one Law. That Law is Christ. It is the "pattern" that God showed to Moses in the mountain and commanded him to model what we call Judaism after. The "law of Moses" then was patterned after it. And if it was, it did not contradict it. But if it was only patterned after it, then itself was not the perfect Law, but merely a copy or a shadow.

Now, when the Perfect comes, the imperfect or incomplete or shadow fades back into it since it derived from It. Now, if this is so, those who live by the Perfect will not contradict the imperfect, yes? On that, I insist that we are agreed. Now, if the Perfect says no more than "Love everyone", should it be strange that when someone is stealing or sleeping with women without any discrimination or things like that, another should say to him, "you say that you love, and we know that love fulfills the law and the law says that this and that is unrighteous and wrong and you do these things. Therefore, you are in sin and contradicting the Law of Christ and must repent"?

What are we quarreling about? Christians are not under the Law. Do we not agree on that? Christians live in such a way that their lives do not contradict Moses. Do we not agree on that? How have I suggested that the Christian holds on to Moses? By saying that Moses says about him, "now, this is that of which I spoke when I said, '...'"? Is that how?

Let us not waste time multiplying arguments that actually agree as though we were at variance with each other. As I think you yourself said somewhere on this thread, there is a right use of the law and a wrong one. The law applies to the unrighteous, is that not so? Now, can a Christian act unrighteously occasionally, perhaps stumble and fall sometimes? Well, the Scriptures say that he can.

That being so, there are times when the law may apply to a Christian, such times as when he acts unrighteously, no? If that is true, then Deuteronomy 28 is meant for Christians.

Please be careful to ascertain that we disagree and where we do before you respond to this post if you are going to call me out again.

You have spoken well.

dougivilla: Good apostle, keep learning under your grand master of deception!!

Na you know where e dey pain u?

[quote author=Dux-01][/quote]Moses’ law said, the king “shall not multiply horses to himself… Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold” (Deuteronomy 17:16-17).

So Solomon sinned in various ways—(1) he engaged in polygamy, (2) he violated God’s commandment against marrying pagans, which ultimately led to his own apostasy, (3) he collected huge numbers of horses (a large chariot army), and (4) he gathered vast amounts of gold and silver.

Obadiah we give thanks for opening eyes and cleaning out ears on this issue

shdemidemi: I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace


2 Corinthians 5:21
King James Version (KJV)
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

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Can a good tree bear bad fruit?

you say a man can be living in sin (adultery) and still be cool with the most high God

Either call the tree god and its fruit good or the tree bad and its fruit bad

you are a really bad apple this man

Judgement be upon you quickly

Amen.

shdemidemi: What is it with you, you are just shouting yashua yashua. Is Yashua the only one in the trinity? Was Yashua in human form in Genesis, can you see yashua in flesh right now?
It's like having water in ice,liquid and gas. In whichever form it is still water.
Your myopic argument is like saying Its only the real water I want to talk about.
Apply whatever you think with jo.
If you don't believe ask yourself if you really want to believe?

you are truly anti yashua (antichrist) from your words above

obadiah777: FIRE AND BRIMSTONE RAINING ON THE HABITATION OF LOQUACIOUS PHARISEE DOUGIVILLA HE BETTER NOT SHOW HIS FACE AROUND HERE. I GOT THAT TWO EDGED SWORD SHARP AND READY TO SLICE AND DICE

sharp and ready brother

Goshen360: ^



King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Matthew 5:38-39.

In verse 38, Christ was quoting Exodus 21:24, Leviticus 24:20 & Deuteronomy 19:21.

New Living Translation (©2007)
You must show no pity for the guilty! Your rule should be life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. Deuteronomy 19:21

In verse 39, Christ laid down a new testament teaching that was carried on by his Apostles. What do you think Christ was doing to those Mosaic law of "You have heard it hath been said"?

is that all you can come up with?

You see how limited you are in yashua

somthing truly has a strong hold on you

What do I Think

well I know Yashua in his sermon on the mount and othe places in the book transferd the offence from the overt acts to the intension this is clearly stated.

and in no way did he abrogate any part of the law in any way

do you really expect one to turn the other cheek for you during a time of judgement

the evangelical period is over now it is judgement time.

But when you speak about paul you have so much to say against the LAW of the most high

obadiah777: LIKE THEY SAY 'LET GOD BE TRUE AND LET DOUGIVILLA BE A LIAR'

lol!!!

Fire is burning all lawlessness as we speak.

Dux-01:
You said the kingdom started existing since when cain was born.hence that 'kingdom' was in existence in the time of solomon. obadiah777 said that God will not make someone as rich as bishop oyedepo in the time of this 'kingdom'.and i assume you supported him since you answered his question,then why did God give solomon riches that is even much more than that of the bishop.

To bring prophecy to pass.

and dont forget the women also and concubines

Did you not read the article on the spirit of yashua being the spirit of prophecy by our brethren obadiah777?

obadiah777: MATTHEW 6 VS 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. YOU REPROBATE PHARISEE DO YOU SEE THE VERSE YOU QUOTED AS SAYING HE WOULD GIVE YOU RICHES ? LOOK A FEW VERSES BEFORE THAT AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT HE WOULD ADD ON TO THEM. THEIR DAILY BREAD. FOOD. NOT RICHES. SEE HOW YOU ALWAYS TRY TO TWIST SCRIPTURE TO JUSTIFY YOUR COVETOUS NATURE ? SMDH

True Talk for here.

dougivilla: My own be say as usual, una lie no go work!

Matt 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and its righteousness and ALL THESE THINGS, shall be added to you. Which things and from where? Will your poor God go and borrow them from the rich satan He created to give to you? Assignment, go and read verse 31 and 32 to know what the 'these things' are and Phillipians 4:19 to know where they will come from, then we will continue!

you go on and aquire wealth unheard of and bind you soul to it

but we know all these things shall pass away.