BlueRayDick: Sanchez do headless chicken run bawo ?
Sanchez was like our best player and his runs were note headless chicken in any way. He is one guy that that gave us end product bro. U disrespect Sanchez's period with us with this phrase o
The context was pressing. PRESSING. The way he runs after the ball.
Jodera: Yeah, I really understand your view on ESR and it's really valid.
Na Mos.tob own dey surprise me cos he was here when ESR burst into limelight so at least he should have seen first hand the things ESR did for us.
Saying without injuries Viera get more skillset than ESR in this team is really surprising. And like you said he was really harsh on ESR
And how is that harsh? In another system, ESR will get the nod. It is simple. The current system doesn't suit him. I was clear enough. Na you wan turn this to Vieira vs ESR.
ESR is a final third specialist who will get you goals. He is not someone that would drop deep and help with buildup. His positioning and late runs into the box is quote alright but in situations where we need numbers in midfield to beat the press, he is limited. Where do you think he should play then?
Jodera: I believe you've forgotten who ESR really is.
Naaahh, you've forgotten. Nothing wey you wan tell me
Lemme remind you that ESR initially played as our number 10(Am) in the 2020/21 season. He started his first EPL match under Arteta in the 3-1 over Chelsea on boxing Day. We were 16th that period as we were playing one of the most boring football. ESR came and we started winning games back to back because we finally got our Am. We not only beat Chelsea 3-1, we whitewashed westbrom 5-0 the very next match. First time we'll be scoring 3+ goals consecutively and playing fluid football and winning matches b2b in MONTHS. ESR ensured we were on an upward move till Odegaard was loaned at the end of that Loan window where we moved from 16th to 8th position by season's end. His telepathy and Understanding with Saka was perfect. In fact he was the first that brought this "understanding" with Saka before anything like Odegaard-Saka telepathy was even known in arsenal. There was pictures flying around then (attached below)
I remember having argument with Spy when he said the reason we were playing boring football was because of lack of Am that's why we're playing that stupid 343 and that if we get an Am everything go set. I disagreed saying it was because Arteta wasn't good enough reason why we were playing this nonsense. ESR practically and literally made arsenal playing the 4231 we're enjoying today which obviously improved to 433. I later gave kudos to Spy for getting it right
The very next season, because of Martinelli injury, he stood in for him and played very well that we barely missed Martinelli. He was unarguably our top scorer (even without penalties). The only reason Saka topped him was because Martinelli became fit by early December which made him go back to the bench. And even at that with penalties included, Saka just surpassed him with 1goal (11 to 10).
There's a reason he's called Croydon De bruyne by arsenal fans and it's not just because they're almost same complexion.
I never see wetin Viera don do for this arsenal and even his skillset I never too see am (I believe he'll gel in a more counter attacking team sef) . He can't even play wing effectively, something ESR did excellently. And even that Midfield, most times he's shown he's limited But make I dey watch.
But omorr, no talk this thing about ESR again biko. Ejoor
He's worth the hype.
Na that injury wey Blueray even show me make me calm down for this ESR matter
I knew all these before I said what I said. Don't make it seems I'm rating one above the other or that I dislike ESR. But I tell you if it comes to who Arteta wants to retain currently between both, he will choose Vieira.
I really don't want to compare both because it will seem I'm undermining ESR.
daveP: See the way Arteta face changes when his wingers don't tackle or press? I doubt Rashford will want to move from frying pan to fire. Guy doesn't press. If he now comes to us and begins to do all of that, the backlash from man u will even be worse. Plus his age. They should just get someone else. But sincerely, if na him dey push for the move, na him sabi
That guy is a double GA winger but is wallowing away in despondency
Iwobi doesn't press much to Sanchez arrived and started doing the headless chicken running. Later, we saw Iwobi doing the same thing.
Sometimes, pressing is not about the players alone but the structure and tactic the coach employed. Rashford will learn if he later makes it to Arsenal.
TheGoodJoe: Okay but being the best dribbler in the EPL this season should count.
I thought you said dribbling is ineffective in today's football. Going by your logic, Doku has been ineffective this season because his main output which is dribbling is ineffective.
Spy360: Unless he will join for less than 40m, bad deal. Even the 40m is because of his position as a striker, age, experience and pedigree not because of his performance. This itself is in hope that Arteta will rehab him.
With the news I read this morning, it is going to be a swap deal and guess who will be going the other way... ESR.
The last time ESR was active was 3 seasons ago where he bagged 10 goals from the wing( is it 10 or more?). Since then, he has been in and out of the team due to injuries. He used almost the whole 2022/2023 season to do surgery and recuperate but still picked different injuries afterward.
Vieira arrived at Arsenal with a foot injury he sustained on international duty. He was out for like 3 months this season when he opted to do the groin surgery once and for all.
Somebody tell us how these two scenarios take relate. Moreso, Vieira has the better chance of making the team's squad based on skillsets.
ESR is good but his problem is his position. He is not fast and explosive enough to play on the wing. In midfield, he is limited too.
daveP: See Lookman tonight vs Leverkusen?!! Kai can never do such to defenders, torturing them and making them too wary of where he is on the pitch. Same for Boniface, the way the guy moves towards final third and the stats will make you know that these are guys that will be a constant pain to any backline once ball dey dia leg.
My own na say 3 Victors dey to pick from. Gyo is the most likely pick, mostly due to VO price tag. We don't need a jeun jeun 9 to best this just concluded season. We need one that will start firing and everyone will start having to respect and fear our unpredictability. Ehen.
If there's anyone you should compare to Kai in that Atalanta team, it is Scammaca, not Lookman. What were Martinelli and Saka doing in those matches too?
Spy360: There are more than enough garbage in the team to throw out. Why ESR?
ESR is not worse than Nelson, Vieira, or Nketiah and certainly not Elneny or Cedric. His major problem is fitness and not lack of talent.
And just as we saw Havertz become what he is, I am pretty confident ESR can become our own KDB under one season with Arteta, he only needs to stay fit.
We can sell him now for another top midfielder I have no problem with that. But if we can, let's keep him. That is my opinion.
Your issue is you like to argue too much. Even when everybody is indirectly on the same page with you. You see the bolded, that is exactly why we should let him go. This KDB comparison sha....hmm
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It is quality replacement that matters to me, not some unnecessary sentimental attachment to certain players.
Xhaka left Arsenal and we got a quality & worthy replacement in Rice; that's the kind of stuff I want to see. Not keeping an injury prone talented player with the fear that he may turn out to be Serge Gnabry or Kevin Debruyne in the future.
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BlueRayDick: The way spy always make blasphemous claims when he defends players he loves needs to be studied .
There’s high chance of Smith-Rowe turning out to be the white man’s Abou Diaby than him being Debruyne . Diaby spent 10 whopping years at Arsenal and didn’t play up to 200 games for us director injury . Just take a look at Smith-Rowe’s injury records in 5 years at Arsenal and u can tell he’s on the way to replicate Diaby’s injury records .
We shouldn’t keep such player because of sentiments about his potential talent. Let’s sell him to maybe Dutch league or German league and move on. Na academy product him be, we will be making good money for whatever amount we sell him.
Debruyne was not Chelsea’s homegrown player, so it is understandable that they feel hurt for selling a player they bought and turned out to become a superstar after he was sold . I won’t feel any remorse or regret if Smith-Rowe is sold tomorrow and then he becomes a Dutch league sensation next year .
Exactly...you have said it all. This is a stage where we need to be ruthless. We should let him go so another player can take his spot. Morgan Gibbs-White is who the media says we are after. If we let go of ESR for him, I won't even complain.
Spy360: It will not be wise for me to sell ESR now.
ESR is like KDB in terms of talent. Good movement both on and off the ball, thinks well, good positioning and good finishing with an eye for goals. Though this season he has been unable to keep up with the pace. His problem this season was a slow return to full fitness. I suspect it was deliberate to avoid reoccurrence of his injury.
For such players you have to be patient if not we would be making the mistake Chelsea made losing KDB.
ESR is not anywhere near KDB please. Were you not the one who said we need another dynamic midfielder like KDB? Arteta would have used ESR in that role but we all know why. BTW, his talent is not the issue here, his unavailability due to injuries is why we should move him on.
Havertz you try for us this season especially the Run-ins
15g/a in 13 games (during the Run-ins).
13 of those match winning goals(or assist).
You really try well well.
And this is coming from one of your biggest critic.
Kudos to Arteta for also not been stubborn and switching him to the CF position
The way baba wan cry after scoring that goal... kinda emotional. The guy is too emotionally fragile. Kudos to Ode and Saka for giving him that PK. That was what pushed him. Definitely, he is going to be better next season.
Jodera: Lol... yeah, now I get you and Blueray point.
Make Viera just turn David Silva ooo.
I no too believe in the guy unlike when he first came. Well, I hope he proves me wrong sha.
We need strong and available depth this coming season to be honest so yeah, you guys make good point. Hopefully, we'll get it right in the summer again
Vieira will come good. And Nwaneri will finally get his chance this season.
BlueRayDick: It is scary that he has consistently missed double digit number of games due to injury every season since his debut. I sincerely hope he doesn't end up another Walcott o
Maybe his body will adjust to a less physical league
If we can get Isak and another striker, we should let Jesus go. He is about to have another surgery. By the time he recovers, season fit don reach MD20.
Jodera: Well, if Arthur moves we should get a correct GK. A good GK full everywhere.
As for Ramsdale, I understand the media are pushing him cos it's expected. He's too good to be on the bench and I'll understand if he's influenced by the media noise
Jodera: His best position is Midfield and he can easily slot in on the wings without drop in performance.
ESR na correct player but if we feel we want to go to a very very great height then I won't be sad if he's sold for someone waaaay better.
Where I go vex na if we go sign another "Viera" or person wey no dey very better than him.
A fit ESR guarantees goals, assists, creativity and work rate.
Now you're talking. Where we want to be as a team, I don't see how he can help TBH. His injury concern still remain the main reason behind my statement.
What do you mean by 'another Vieira'? Vieira will come good. He is one player I don't think Arteta will be letting go soon. He was already getting his rythm before his groin injury.
Nelson is the biggest disappointment for me. I really liked that guy when he broke out. Very fast and direct. I expected him to come back from his loan in Germany and fight for a spot. He has no had much chance but he has not impressed the little time he played too. I will still want him to stay around at least till we get a balanced squad. Same thing as Zinny (as a midfielder)