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In total
It sums up to over 400 Million deaths...

In subsequent posts...i will provide the links for the figures....and like i said..who'ever has a problem with anything stated...should say so...and the linking will be done

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KingEbukasBlog:
And how do you think the abolition of religion will work , is it not the use of brutal force to implement the law


You are a big joker , a complete waste of time educating you

I'm out of here

You can wallow in your delusion

i jus dey laff you..

Keep on spreading your own opinion as their opinion...


Their books are there...
Educate yourself...
It is not a crime

[Democides.

.By Germany 1933-1945:21Million deaths(war deaths not inclusive).

.European War Deaths(World War two)(1939-1935):28Million deaths.

.Pre-20th century;Native American Indians 13.7Million deaths.

.Thirty Years War 5.7Million deaths.

.1900-1917Russian Tsardom Rule (Tsarists) 1.1Million deaths.

.1885-1908:Congo Free state 15Million deaths.

.1945-1948:Poland's Ethnic cleansing 1.6Million deaths.

.c.850CE:Empress Theodora;100000 paulicanists executed.

.1830-1903 :Venezuela Power struggles : 1Million deaths.

.Ante Pavelic(Croatia, 1941-45):655,000 deaths.

.Political dreams of Francisco Franco :1.4Million deaths.

.Efrain Rios Montt's Delibrate genocides :260,000 deaths.

.Chiang Kai-shek's anti-communist purge and massacre of civilians :10.2Million Deaths..

.Syngman Rhee's anti-communist purges:300,000 Deaths.

.Portugese dictatorship(1926-1982):740,000 deaths..

.Russia 1598-1613(Time of troubles):5Million deaths.

.America's directed bombing of civilians:700,000 deaths.

.Totalling 100,459,000 deaths

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KingEbukasBlog:
This guy sef

Its states it right there

I told you have little or no knowledge of what you always argue against .

i'm actually laughing because you're stating what you are...

He was talking about persecution...destruction..etc
park well o

read bro read!

Its idea of ''abolition'' of religion is to let it die...i'e that the economic benefits of socialism when installed would alleviate the masses and they will drop religion as they saw religion as a response to capitalism etc

KingEbukasBlog:
You liar !!!!

https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion

you have called me an atheist...
You have also called jonbellion an atheist...
No be today!
Its until recently you started this bull under the guise of knowledge

KingEbukasBlog:
This is just like Christian atheism . Christian atheists reject the core belief of Christianity which is that Christ is God but accept his moral teachings . That is Christian atheism is a variant of Christianity . This does not mean Christianity is not a belief in God religion .

In the same vein , the core principle of Marxism , Leninism , Communism etc which is the intolerance of the belief in God and practice of religion can be rejected while the economic principles are embraced or accepted . That is where religious people can now replace this core principle which is intolerance of the belief in God and practice of religion with their religious doctrine .

It does not mean that these ideologies are not atheistic . Because they originally are .


Learn they won't learn

oboi shut up

read the works of lenin and co you wont read...

Their ideology is that religion should be kept a private affair...totally private
Total separation from church and state...thats their ideology of religion..

Richirich713:
"Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922–1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet Marxist-Leninism policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs, and actively encouraged atheism during its implementation in the Soviet Union.[1]

thats what the soviet union did...not what marxism nor marxist-lennism advocates..
I dont know if stalinism is the right word for the soviet union actions
marxist-lennism is actually against such soviet union actions
www.nairaland.com/3543595/did-god-command-genocide-bible/33#52547755


lenin was actually against stalin's rule and wanted him removed as the head of the communist party
source:Louis Fischer,1964, The Life Of Lenin:London:wiedenfeld and nicolson,,Page 647
many other sources confirm this

The state was committed to the destruction of religion,[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth that society should accept.[4][5]

www.nairaland.com/3543595/did-god-command-genocide-bible/33#52549505
this was against the founder's tenets...

The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies has been estimated to range between 12-20 million."

Read more of the horrors of people persecuted in the name of atheism:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

it goes both ways...
Religious have persecuted the irreligious and other religions too.

KingEbukasBlog:
End of Argument @ MrMontella

LENIN ON RELIGION :

Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism

you can snub where i concretely showed you that lenin said..christians and believers in God can join the socialist party and there will be no contradiction...

I dont know what makes you think this statement disproves that..

Even in his book
socialism and religion
lenin defended a priest who was a socialist...

Please go and learn...your hate is blinding you!

How can someone oppose the founders of something

Na wa oo

See this one disturbing with nothing worthy

nothing worthy----the exact words of the founders and the books they published...

Please go and sit down...


I dont see how this image translates to
:persecute religious adherrents,,,,
religion must be stamped out with force,,,
or christians cant be socialists....


Its this stupid reasoning that makes ''you'' think anyone who opposes religion is an atheist...or that any irreligious atheist is a millitant atheist...


Take a bottle of cold water...
Read my comment and grasp reality...

This is final...
I don try for your nonsense

4kings:
Chai, KingEbukasBlog I dey wait for you to address this.

i wont reply him...until he takes his time and assimilate that statement!
He's joking with me..

Inhuman Attrocities.

.Witch hunts(All the Inquisitions): 100,000 deaths
(a very generous estimate).

.1954-present :Ethnic Conflict In Nagaland by a christian Terrorist Group :200,000 deaths caused...

.Rwandan Genocide: 1Million deaths.

.The Spanish slaughter of the saracens: 3Million deaths.

.Francoist Repression
400,000 Deaths.

.1882-1898: Conquests of Menelik II of Ethiopia: 5Million deaths.

.french conquest of algeria
3Million deaths.

.Religious Conquests of The Americas(North and South)15c-19c:75Milllion deaths.

.Transatlantic slave Trade
17.8Million deaths.

.1500-1900;Brazil,Amazon rubber companies,Portugese colonies in Africa,French Equatorial African colonies;Carribean sugar and cotton plantations,
:10Million slaves worked to death.

.Conquest of siberia by the cossacks:150,000 deaths.

.Spanish Inquisition:350,000 deaths.

.Totalling 113,200,000 deaths


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KingEbukasBlog:
Here are hundreds of Lenin's comments against religion

https://philosophersforchange.org/2014/01/21/lenin-and-religion/

please someone should explain this simple comment for this guy

MrMontella:
im yet to see lenin/engels advocating that religion should be stamped out with force or that religious adherrents should be persecuted....

Until you can do that...we are done

the evidence i have blasted you with should really knock you off

maybe you do not know you are adding credence to my statement on religion being a response to the woes of capitalism...

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmaooo !!! You must be a learner
Geezz ...such ignorance

maybe understanding simple comments is hard for you..

KingEbukasBlog:
Neo-Marxism is the variant of Marxism that is tolerant of religion ... not Marxism itself

Go and learn about political theories and stop making a fool of yourself

Just imagine this fellow

so lenin was a neo-marxist or engels was a neo-marxist?

Guy..stop acting ''drunk''..please


your statement sef is even giving credence to christian communism...

For such variants to exist..than it is not an atheistic ideology..but rather a political ideology with tenets of materialism or thereabouts!



do you need more religious marxists and communists

KingEbukasBlog:
@MrMontella

im yet to see lenin/engels advocating that religion should be stamped out with force or that religious adherrents should be persecuted....

Until you can do that...we are done

the evidence i have blasted you with should really knock you off

KingEbukasBlog:
Both of the hated religion but Karl Marx hated religion more

https://www.ukessays.com/essays/sociology/karl-marx-and-friedrich-engels-on-religion-sociology-essay.php

Here is Marxism's take on religion .

Stop mentioning me with extremely stupid rebuttals .

what nonsense?


You can cut out my comments as you like!

Go and learn marxism..it sees religion as a response to woes of capitalism!

Even in the face of evidence from Friedrich engels himself...you're still talking bull..

KingEbukasBlog:
They are calling for his excommunication . That's why I said the Catholic Church is against him

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/news-31546-Cleric+Mugabe+shames+Catholic+church/news.aspx

https://cathnews.co.nz/2016/10/07/president-mugabe-abuses-excommunication/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmY5CDflDiI


Why are you a liar

you are a funny human being...
Giving me the ''same'' article twice?

So the opinion of a pastor or a catholic publisher translates to the position of the catholic church?

You really need some schooling on catholicism!

Mtsheew!

Mention me when you have proof

4everGod:
They love being dishonest that was why i asked him to ensure he drops his links. Well we dey wait

i never start una don begin they cry

m taking my time on purpose...

I have everything i need...

Just want una to ''para'' first

KingEbukasBlog:
According to Wikipedia , a religious war is a war primarily caused or justified by differences in religion. Religious wars account for less than 2% of all people killed in warfare. This includes 3 million during the Crusades and 3,000 during the Inquisition

Please ignore any form of attempt to misinform the public

Here are the Top 5 religious wars

have you heard of ''just war theory?''

or the ''divine right of kings''

these are doctrines of the catholic church bruh...so calm your mind...

Absolute Monarchy has roots in religion

KingEbukasBlog:
Catholic Church is against Mugabe and he is not a Marxist.\

must you always have to lie?
Please show me when/where the catholic church excommunicated him...



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mugabe
find in page ''Marxist'' or ''Marxist-lennist''

and stop ranting please

And all those variants of communism are trying to replace the intolerance of religion in communism by replacing it with their religious doctrine.

telling a lie a thousand times does not make it true...
The founders were agains violence towards religious folks..

Here is Marxism and atheism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism_and_religion

There is no such thing as religious Marxist ; religion is antithetical to Marxism , Leninism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lewis_(philosopher)

''he was very religious and a minister or so''

If there should be a variant of it then they are trying to eliminate the inherent intolerance of religion and the belief in God and replacing it with religious doctrine

in christian communism...there is no religious doctrine.

I've address this thing so many times before

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels hated religion and God and then founded Marxism and you are saying there is such thing a religious Marxism

lies bro
easy with the lies!
Marxism and communism was founded because of capitalism

Friedrich engels was very tolerant to religion

Engels frequently condemned...to introduce into the programme of the workers’ party an explicit proclamation of atheism, in the sense of declaring war on religion[quote][quote]Commenting in 1874 on the famous manifesto of the Blanquist fugitive Communards.....Engels called their vociferous proclamation of war on religion a piece of stupidity

etc Many a times
in his other books too..such as the
Anti-Dürhing etc



source:F. Engels, “Flüchtlings-Literatur. II. Das Programme der Blanquisten”
Online archive

Do you know what Marxism is ?

When will you people ever have sense

that question needs to be directed to you...

And please do not insult me because of your blinded hate and laziness!

KingEbukasBlog:

Robert Mugabe is a marxist and he is a roman catholic!
I can give you many more!..notable marxists who were religious
Christian communism exists..

4everGod:
I want a comprehensive list MrMontella and your links pls.

of course you will get your links..

M just dividing the list for personal preference!

That was not what the originators taught them...thats china's off book ideas..

KingEbukasBlog:

[url=sfr-21.org/lenin-religion.html]
lenin:The attitude of the workers party to religion[/url]

For example, the question is often brought up whether a priest can be a member of the Social-Democratic Party or not........We must not only admit workers who preserve their belief in God into the Social-Democratic Party, but must deliberately set out to recruit them; we are absolutely opposed to giving the slightest offence to their religious convictions,

lenin:socialism and religion

Everyone must be absolutely free to profess any religion he pleases, or no religion whatever.... .....Discrimination among citizens on account of their religious convictions is wholly intolerable

Wilgrea7:
i don't know of up to 400 million deaths... can you please expatiate.... let me learn... please list the 400 million deaths caused by Christians ... not jews o... if you want to accuse the jews go to Israel and tell the PM or something... so..... let me know how Christians caused 400 million deaths... over to you sir

who are jews?

m talking christians!



The idea of everything i'm doing is simple

anybody and everybody does bad

Religious Wars:.

.Taiping Rebellion :100Million deaths.

.World war I : 20Million deaths.

.Vietnam war: 3.8 Million deaths.

.538CE Massacre at Milan By Arians: 300,000 catholics killed.

.The Albigensian Crusade or Cathar Crusade 1Million deaths.

.Crusades(1st -9th) : 3M deaths.

.535-554: Gothic Wars: 5.0Million deaths .

.790-1300: Reconquista: 7.0Million deaths.

.1562-1598: French Wars of Religion: 3Million deaths.

.1568-1648: Dutch Revolt: 1Million deaths.

.1554-1721: The Northern Wars:2Milllion deaths.

.1763-1864: Russian-Circassian War: 1Million deaths.

.1792-1802: French Revolutionary Wars: 2Million deaths.

.1803-1815: Napoleonic Wars: 3.5Million deaths.

.Thirty Years War :11Milllion deaths.

.1998-2003 Second congo war 5.4 Million deaths.

.Seven Years War : 1.5Million deaths.

.American Civil War 1.5Miillion deaths.

.War of the three Kingdoms: 870,000 deaths.

.Lord's Resistance Army: 500,000 deaths.

.Nine Years War :680,000 deaths.

.Christero War :250,000 deaths.

.Great Turkish War:200,000 deaths
(By the ''Holy league'').

.German Peasants war: 100,000 deaths.

.Russo-Turkish War: 500,000 deaths.

.Bosnian War :250,000 deaths.

.Arauco War:200,000 deaths.

.Sudanese civil War :2Million deaths.

.Lebanese Civil War:250,000 deaths.

.Crimean Wars: 1Million deaths.

.American Revolutionary wars
108,000......

.Franco-Dutch war(1672-1678):342,000 deaths.

.Uprising of 1648-1657,Russia:150,000 Deaths.

.Razin rebellion(1667-1671):100,000 deaths.

.Haidamaka rebellion(1768-1769):200,000 deaths.

.
Etc .

.
Totalling : 179,700,000 deaths

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bennyann:
I'm happy to see you here MrMontella

If it's too many to name, I would like to know if your list includes theists also. Thank you

yes..

KingEbukasBlog:
I explained why communist killings are atheist killings .
Dude you have to be an atheist to be in a communist party.

two fat lies...
And its a tip of the many lies you've been peddling about communism...

Hello everyone ?

So last year via the usual arguments...i got into one with a known Theist here--4everGod
long story short.
This thread as the title sugggests is to show that over the years...the religious have done more harm than good to humanity in their quest for total domination and all that

In my findings i came across so many horrors done by the ideologies and adherrents of just a single religious sect--Christianity......that i couldnt take it anymore and had to stop...like for real

In my little research,,,i came across about 400 Million deaths caused by this sect---Christianity
Yes!...
i sincerely hope none of you were shocked by that statement...


So how to present it has been crawling in my head for sometime now...so please ''Manage'' this new years present from me..

I'd list them out first...
Then in subsequent posts...i'd provide the links to my statements..

For Goodness sake..i wont list events with death tolls lower than a hundred thousand....although thats were the total number of attrocities gets really plenty
such as the dirty war's 30k deaths, vitalians rebellion of 65,000 deaths,,the anglo-spanish wars of 50k+ deaths the hussite wars of >20,000 deaths etc

...and if anyone has a problem with anything listed...simply state it..and i'd show how it is ''christian''.

hopefullandlord..
I've been doing that to an extent...

On ''useless thread'',,if i do comment..its always unrelated to the op...Time is of the essence..

hmm.. Too many to name

4everGod:
I love the fact that its easy to discover truth these days.

Let them carry out their group project. I am tired of arguing aimlessly. I asked randomperson to give me the percentage of theists in the USA and those who are atheists and lets do a statistical analysis based on prison figures and percentages so i can show him how silly his assumption that atheists are less in prisons in America. He has not given me those percentages.

www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/


christian 70.6
atheist 3.1

theist in total =77.something

4everGod:
Ok then go ahead and offer Mrmontella the figures of those who died during the civil war in Nigeria. I will give you the liberty of doing so if you feel that would make you comfortable.

Go ahead and include Nigerias deaths during the civil war to the list of deaths caused by Christians... When you are done i will make my submission with verifiable facts

so christians didnt fight in the war?

Motive or killings..?.
Please lets be staight...
Na simple question