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4everGod:
By the way Mrmontella and randomperson do you know that the word GENOCIDE could not be used to describe the killings carried out by Atheists so much so that a new word DEMOCIDE had to be coined? Its simply because GENOCIDE could not do it justice.

MrMontella i dey wait o.

democide is done by a person in the ''government'' ...something like that

4everGod:
What are you afraid of? Are you not going to list crusades?

okay... Give me time....
Christian attrocities will see the light soon

KingEbukasBlog:
Civil wars in a religious country do not mean it was necessarily caused by the differences in religion or religious intolerance .

solve the holodomor famine by joseph stalin..in relation to his atheism


and i will agree

4everGod:
Oga simply start submitting your verifiable facts, years and links already and do not ask me questions.

When you are done i will then follow with mine

do you agree on my submission?

That the idea is ''by christians'' and ''by atheists''
?

I dont want issues when i list world wars

4everGod:
You are generalizing, Facts do not lie. Its not in the number of wars its in the number of deaths. Civil wars were caused by sovereignty squables and not Religion based. Can you allow Mrmontella to now make his submission?

i will accept the underlined...
If you can tell me how atheism was joseph's stalin's motive for creating the holodomor famine...which killed millions of people..

Pls..the idea is simple...killings by atheists compared with killings by christians...

P.s religion was still a factor in civil wars FYI...
Hitler rings a bell..

4everGod:
First of all Mrmontella when you have a minority group and Christians being in the majority posting a comparison between both is really laughable and this is why.

minority/majority has no role here oo...
If it did...you would apply the same logic to atheists..

If you have 7million Christians in USA and 1million atheists and out of this 7million you have 500k in prisons and out of the 1million atheists you have 2000 in prisons its clear to see that if the atheists were to be 7million their number would have been either about 2million in jail. That being said

sire...i calculated it myself...
I used america's 2008 religiousity index...i.e total number of adherents for a particular religion...and i did the math..
Christians still top atheists in the nominal ratio..
I can present it here if you wish

I would like you to drop your figures of deaths under Christianity and i will drop mine carried out under atheism and by atheists . Can we do that please.

please start sire

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists alone killed close to 250 million .
https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous
https://www.nairaland.com/2988881/atheism-terrorism-annihilation-quest-atheistic
It was compiled on those threads

let us compare? Una own reach 288 million side oo..(low estimates)
For the ones i know of oo...

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ScepticalPyrrho:
I tire o.

Infact there was a part that triggered my unbelief.

A parent who committed a sin was forgiven, but the children, and generation yet unborn still has to suffer for it.

What a ridiculous judgement.

thats what this thread is about
www.nairaland.com/3441860/asymmetric-nature-christian-sin-economy
none was able to rationalize it in the thread

randomperson:
That's what am talking about... And KingEbukasblog will come and be telling us about some 50 atheists... Nice one boss

ive begged them lets compare the total number of deaths commited by atheists with the ones done by religious persons...(only christians)...they always dodge it

KingEbukasBlog:
What by what standards do atheists condemn anything ?




I don't assent to sexual servitude but North President Kim does not agree with me

https://www.nairaland.com/3075853/atheist-n.korean-pres-kim-jong

He loves them young at the age of 13 and innocent

Spits !

Ebuka..abege...see your moral people people
https://i64.tinypic.com/14ipnd5.jpg

Atheists have no moral compass yet christians supernaturally outnumber atheists in prisons at a
ratio of 70% to 0.07%
https://i68.tinypic.com/16m27ts.jpg

https://i65.tinypic.com/346731s.jpg

atheists have no moral compass,yet studies have shown that atheists have more compassion than religious persons
www.livescience.com/20005-atheists-motivated-compassion.html


atheism has no moral compass yet studies prove that atheists are more altruistic than theistic religious people i.e religious persons are more meaner
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/religious-children-less-altruistic-secular-kids-study?CMP=fb_gu

i.e as Dr Jean Decety of the University of Chicago put it, Our study goes beyond that by
showing that religious people are
less generous, and not only adults
but children too...

the least corrupt countries in the world are even majorly the non-religious countries in the world..
www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/27/464586586/what-were-the-least-and-most-corrupt-countries-in-2015

abeg you need an E-slap to reset your brain

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this study explicitly shows that religion plays no roles in morals
www.livescience.com/47799-morality-religion-political-beliefs.html

cc:hopefullandlord 4kings

Muafrika2:
It's the spirit that sins, and men are spirits having a brief experience in flesh. That's why sometimes children suffer for mistakes done by their fathers. Poor kids. So watch out for the kind of heritage you will be leaving your kids with.

I'd probably be trolling if I started speaking about that side of God here. Because God is not always nice. I should start a thread one day about the terrible side of God.

na so...
Children suffer the mistakes of their parents...but they dont ''suffer'' free salvation from thier parents

LightandDarkness:
Absolute nonsense from him, you must believe in god to know the difference between right and wrong it's either he's smart and just has a logical blindspot when it comes to religion or his posts greatly exaggerate his intellectual ability

absolute nonsense!

randomperson:
Well... It's pretty obvious where Christians stand on this... As long as god commands it, it's okay to kill other human beings... God is good!!

mass murderers walking around in broad daylight

dalaman:
The same hypocrite will quote wikipedia for you shortly. He is just shameless.

he has been evading all the simple questions i have been asking him..and expects me to take him serious

felixomor:
I am always here.

be waiting

dalaman:
Where did the Koran say that people should follow the teachings of Jesus you liar? State clearly where the Koran say that people should follow the teachings of Jesus.

dont mind the liar..

He's a clown...

I come dey wonder why i quote person wey no dey ever serious

felixomor:
We r still talking documents.
Please focus. Dont jump out of the window.
I need facts, please. Or ur Wikipedia has crashed again today?

please go and sleep...
Red herring master

felixomor:
Abeg bring out the manuscript

wait for me...

felixomor:
The quran tells the prophet to follow the teaching of Jesus. Jesus said "love ur enemies"
Ignorance will not let u know that.

stop being a clown...
You can Avoid the question as you like...i dont have time for clowns..

felixomor:
"Catholicism" simply means universal... "Pentecostalism" is a stereotype given by men

you know what i mean bro... Roman catholicism or orthordox ..so answer... Is pentecostialism wrong

None will take u to heaven. Only Jesus takes u there

non sequitur

U dont have point. None cant be related to documents Next

from where did their various doctrines come from? The sky?

felixomor:
Jesus has come, So no more excuses for killing.
This is the era of grace. Of course, u dont know that.
Next!

see rubbish.. Wetin concern jesus with allah?(apart from being a messenger)
Answer me...is the bible to dictate for the quran when its time?

felixomor:
Of course, anything that defeats u is rubbish.
Na today?
Next!

you have no idea about the manuscripts from which the kjv originated...
I can conclude so

felixomor:
Hmmmm.....yawns Its centuries younger than the kjv
Please, Next!

see your logic
pentecostialism is younger than catholicism.. Therefore catholicism is correct!
Shameful!

blueyedgeek:
I feel like God in all his glory surely could have found a better way to correct these wicked people rather than commanding them to be wiped off the face of the earth.

400 years is meaningless to God (seeing as he is not bound by time or space) and he is also all knowing and can do all things (frankly, I don't see the point of all the brouhaha of waiting for the Canaanites to change when the change could simply be willed. I mean, he had no problem with hardening Pharoah's heart so not messing with free will is out of the way. )

The Israelites were supposed to be a shining light to the other nations of the world but did they go about it in the best way possible? Why couldn't they show the world a better way to go about doing things rather than pillaging lands and killing children?

Couldn't they have been a force for peace rather than war? Couldn't they have not repayed evil for evil? Couldn't they have showed the other nations of the world the path to the one true God?

why not just forgive?

Or since he loves intervening...why not just simply wire their minds towards himself and save the bloodbath?

felixomor:
Kjv senior those 2 bible by centuries....
Please try again

thrash logic!

felixomor:
Which bible versions acknowledged it?

GNT.

naijadeyhia:
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You just said all manners of rubbish!

I asked a simple question which deserves a simple answer. Let me post it again



I a nutshell why do the givers of the human law still have the ability to break the very same law they have given? We have laws that stand against killing but the law enforcement officers kill everyday.

We have laws against rape yet people who know this still rape

We have laws against murder but murder is still being commited daily

We have laws against practically everything but people still commit them even in the face of these laws?

Isnt the human law meant to eradicate all of that if it is the best we have got?


Can a man being who is able to break the same laws he gives you be seen as the final authority to the law?

at the bolded...i edited it...lets apply it to the christian God...

He does the same thing..so?

felixomor:
For them in their time, it was the righteous thing.
And u dont make sense for trying to use your today's brain to try to condemn it.

what do you mean by it was in their time ?
See cheap talk!

To the servants of allah...it is still thier time...so what nonsense is this


Or Is yahweh(bible) to dictate for allah(quran) when it is ''time''?

Like dalaman said...if you go by divine command theory...please do not complain about islamic killings...


Rubbish!

naijadeyhia:
Jesus said HE CAME NOT TO ABOLISH THE LAW BUT TO FULFIL IT. I think even you should understand english. He fulfilled all of the law so everythig attached to the law stopped in Christ the moment he said IT IS FINISHED...In other words THE LAW IS FINISHED.

just imagine this lie..

IT is finished now translates to the law is finished abi?

Matthew 5 New International Version (NIV)
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them.
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear
not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of
a pen will by any means disappear from the
Law until everything is accomplished.
19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches
others accordingly will be called least in the
kingdom of heaven but whoever practices
and teaches these commands will be called
great in the kingdom of heaven
20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness
surpasses that of the Pharisees and the
teachers of the law, you will certainly not
enter the kingdom of heaven.

please..how can the righteousness of the teachers of the law be used as a grading system if there is no law?

Also please take not of the underlined and embolded words and explain how your theory fits it


3)...please tell us in simple english terms how---- [color=red]an eye for an eye was fulfilled by turn the other cheek

dalaman:
Then let me not hear you complain when Allah's foot soldiers go about killing people on his divine command theory. After all you can't judge Allah because he created the universe and has the right to do what ever he wants.

its as simple as that..