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Ranchhoddas:
Even if there isn't any clear proof of ''animal intervention'', it still doesn't show conclusively that there is no intervention.

how do you even rate an event for it to be an ''intervention'' ...

What i'm saying is that...the so-called ''interventions'' are not...but a part of the chain of life...

[s]Maybe animals are not as important in the grand scheme of things[/s]

lol...human ego!

Lady39:
Hi Yomi007k,
Thanks for kindly replying. I knew I was taking a huge risk doing this. I'm grateful to the mods & owner that I'm not banned this morning..lol.
And no...I won't be throwing stones at u..if i were to throw stones i would have to be careful cause some of the stones may come & hit me.
It just disturbs me greatly...because being on this planet called Earth with over 7 billion folks living on it, means that we are gonna have different beliefs on life.
Most religions want to convert people to their particular belief....
But it's one thing to sincerely be searching for truth and intelligently ask questions (about things one doesn't understand) and another thing to be deliberately digging for ways (by trying to find scriptures in the Bible that one thinks are contradictory) to mock or disprove believers of Christ purely for the sake of fun...
You can't ultimately win by being mean...
I don't excuse the behaviors for the believers of Christ who have a hypocritical attitude..that shouldn't be. But I have seen another religion (or non-believers) also act very ugly in here. What U see in here is pure bias towards one religion being shown in this room....and hatred towards the other. Where is the love?

@the bolded...no one would ban you if you do not break a rule..
Any story you've heard about bans on christians for being a christian are lies concocted by your christian friends..

adepeter26:
Ayam not understanding anymore. Maybe i have to start reading this thread from page 0 again because ehh, somethings aint adding up again.

even me...
its just weird

things are not adding up

Lady39:
Hi,
I surely hope I can freely express my opinion in this particular room...without any backlash or banning.. When I joined this site at the beginning of December 2016, I first ventured into the "Religion" section. I had even created a post suggesting that believers of Jesus not be so harsh on a particular guy whom I thought was and may still be searching.
But i am so alarmed at the amount of attacks on those who believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God & member of the Trinity. I eventually left & went to 3-4 other rooms where I could have a calm spirit. I have clicked on so many weird posts, however it took my mind off of this particular room.
I now see, however, why people who believe in Jesus have to be so defensive in here..because of constant attacks. I don't mean to be rude or unGodly but it sometimes becomes very challenging to show the love of Christ when non-believers constantly refuse to have faith, try Christ & see what He can do in their lives.
Non-believers, if u choose NOT to believe, then that's your choice, but why mock, insult, degrade & belittle those that DO? It doesn't take all of that to get your points across....it really doesn't.
Question for Atheists, Deists, Muslims, & any other group who don't believe in the deity of Christ:
Why so much anger, hostility, mockery, & malice towards those who choose to believe
differently from u?

do you and your christian evangelists on nairaland have the bolded towards muslims and allah?

Ranchhoddas:
Lol. Maybe, maybe not. You wouldn't know if there was an intervention of behalf of an animal now would you?

lets take starvation..
Animals in the wild starve...

it would boil down to the problem of evil..
And no ''general'' case...and lack of consistency..of this ''intervention''

I used animals..to avoid your ''conditioning'' input

Ranchhoddas:
How do they know that whoever or whatever made the Universe is non-interventionist.

does he/she/it also intervene for animals in need?'

ehya...
Unfortunately, hell doesnt exist!

notjonbellion:
his own was even the least because currently on Facebook marky mark does not affiliate with any religion

if i want to be a bigot like him...
I would say that mark z's usage of was
---i was raised jewish..
Means he's no longer jewish..
And say that if he was suscribing to judaism..he would have said...i am jewish..i went through.....

And i will shun my ears to contrary opinions no matter how logical it may be..

Ranchhoddas:
A rather illogical position I must say.

explain why you think so.

KingEbukasBlog:
Its funny how you quickly accept any bs spewed by these atheists without being incisive

You are an embarrassment to logical thinking bro

you just described yourself bro

Ranchhoddas:
They do not often allow for public scrutiny as the point of these miracles are not to prove anything to you. If anything, it's charlatans who'd be eager for public approval especially if they believe they've covered all their bases.

---

MrMontella

i believe the bible encourages christians to convert non-believers...
And believers can be identified by Mark 16:17-18

verse 18 is supposed to be testable..therefore the ''healings'' should be verifiable by independent examination.

OLAADEGBU:
Non sequitur!

i know... But i posted it to see your answer on sola scriptura... Not una mary talk

solite3:
Matthew 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

this prophecy cannot be found in the old testament..
But can be found in extra biblical tradition

Matthew 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not

Jesus is saying that the pharisees have a legitimate authority based on Moses seat ..this cannot be found in the old testament...but can be found in a jewish traditional book called the MISHNAH which teaches some sort of ''teaching succession'' from moses

1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ..

the idea that a rock followed the israelites..is not in the old testament....only found in oral jewish tradition...

2 Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt free minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

this statement is gotten from The Book Of Jasher..
So the author of timothy considered this book to be ''scripture''

1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

directly lifted from the book of enoch

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

this is gotten from an extrabiblical work called ''the assumption of moses''

James 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

the lack of rain for three years and six months..is not stated in the old testament

I don't see the correlation of this in to what is been discuss.

do you now see?

It is a questioning of your statement that everybook besides the ones in your pentecostal bible is forged or uninspired..

Cc olaadegbu

LoJ:
Hello,

I didn't say they are impossible. I personally know that miracles, although rare, actually occur. They are not the privilege of a particular religion or movement. People of all faiths or no faith, can actually witness authentic miracles. That's why Miracles are no proof that a particular religion/god is the right one.

What I believe is that, before claiming publicly that a miracle has taken place, any honest religious or spiritual leader would have those cases subjected to independent and rigorous examination, whereby all other possible and logical explanations are eliminated.

At the end of such investigation, if all possible and logical explanation fell short, everyone will be compelled to see that a miracle has indeed taken place and it will even give them greater "credit".

The fact that faith healers among others, usually refuse independent and strict investigation, but day in day out make bold and public claims about raising deads or healing HIV, proves that they are charlatans, and a threat to public safety.

Cheers.

thank you sire!

Ranchhoddas..this is what im trying to tell you...

LiberaDeus:
Haha haha.

Na only " my god is the real god"

You have forgotten how Christians throw jibes at each other like

1. You Catholics are idolaters that worship Mary and other saints

2. Pentecostals are noise makers with greedy pastors
3. Jehovah witnesses and Mormons are all heretics and deceivers.
4. Deeper life members are too extreme
Even among the Pentecostals , you see

1. My annointing is great that's why I run 4 services on Sunday.

2. The Lord is working wonders in our church that's why in just 4 years we have our own building and auditorium.

3. Has your pastor raised the dead before.

4. Just try my church once and you will know what you have been missing.

www.nairaland.com/3343566/war-against-christianity....by-christians

christianity and confusion and 5 and 6...they should even be synonyms..

Deicide:
I just learnt today that there are different ways to attain salvation....."Just denounce Atheism"

this thread may be for traffic

4evergod3:
So says the Pathetic, self induced Myopically driven ignorant one.

you want to join him?

mhisbliss:
Call it crazy, abuse, curse, you can't control the random thoughts that pops into your mind, I'm not an atheist though, am not religious either, just sitting on the fence, but what if at the end of it all, we discovered that there's no God and it was all stories cooked up to keep yall in check. like yall got played

question everything and anything!

Mcowubaba:
This is simply because Atheist are scared of talking about Atheism to Muslims, or mocking their faith.

You guys would be lynched immediately Muslims no get time for nonsense talk.
Even your Chief Atheist Atheist here on Nairaland, locked Muslim section. U must take an oath before you are allowed to comment

You guys exploit the cool handedness of Christians, that's why u keep mocking the Christian religion and Bible.
Every Atheist can post shiit about Christianity on Facebook or other social media, try that with Islam..
Cowards

ignorance..

Pathetic self induced myopic illiteracy and ignorance!

hahn:
I don't hate the bible. It is very useful. In my house we use it to tilt the fan or roll weed

jeesus!

notjonbellion:
lmao They have even joined the poor Diests into thier stupidity

no o! We reject such foolishness!

MrMarvelous:
I don't get why people lie though. That's just embarrassing.

hahaha!

hopefulLandlord:
sure! if it helps you sleep better at night

he even accused someone of doctoring his post when he realised his Freudian slip

as i noticed the stuff ehn
i just jejely quoted his comment!

I expected something like that from him

hahn:
COming from someone who blew Mark's comment out of proportion when simply said religion is important and made it out to seem that he said, "I am a Christian"

Hahahaha

i think he stated so sef..

hahn:
And according to John 3:16 only people who accept Jesus will see eternal life. Therefore, salvation is not for all because not everyone believes that shit

And Jesus said in Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

I agree that you and an2select2 are lost sheep but are you also of Israel?

i used this exact word to describe christians today ---sheep!

hopefulLandlord:
^^

^^ i was like :ohh shvt
Mrmister is a wicked sombori oo

uvalued:
but ONE thing we know he stated he is NO athiest which athiest have claimed...

he is no more an atheist...

Simple

why are you rejoicing?

4evergod3:
See massive desperation. Why did you doctor my comment to read i am an atheist when my original comment reads I AM A CHRISTIAN!

Do you want to replace Mark Zuckerberg with me and ease your pain?

Sorry just like Mark Zukerberg sees Atheism as something for dumbos i also do.

https://www.debifeinman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Laughter2.jpg

stop lying sire...

I quoted your original comment and it was so...
That was why i said ''atheist don block your head''

your obsession with atheism is becoming something that need to be checked

4evergod3:
Naaaa you guys cannot block a pin hole with your intelligence. I am here having fun. Do you think i break a sweat over your bunch of lonely park benchers? Think again.

so you didnt even see what i quoted oga?

Blogthug:
how about u either say I don't believe Chelsea would beat Liverpool or I'm not sure Chelsea would beat Liverpool? just because u decided to mix both together doesn't mean they are compatible it makes it bad grammar. it's logically identical to saying Uncommitted committed

also to show that the Agnostic atheism position is illogical so called Gnostic atheism would require a universal knowledge of universal negation . Gnostic atheism is categorically impossible except the atheist were omniscient (God)

yes, there are some version of Hinduism that believes in God while some do no and so are atheistic and MOST importantly, Agnostic (meaning one who believes it is impossible to know anything about God or the creation of the universe). is still very much a belief position .

Do some philosophical research
start here http://www.dictionary.com/browse/agnostic

nvm

4evergod3:
Sorry my mom died 12yrs ago and my dad died this year and i have been living alone since i was 23yrs old. Currently married with kids and run a successful business with 34 employees and can pay your salary for life.

I am an atheist and Proud to me one. I am also extremely successful.

How is your mamas kitchen?

atheist don block your head

samsam2019:
1st of, if you become an atheist because one rich guy is an atheist then you're nothing but a follow follow just like all Christiansand Muslims.



2nd, he said religion is important. Yes I also believe it. It's important to those who practice it and saying it's not importantbecaise I don't believe in it means I'm an intolerant bigot.





And he did not claim to be a Christian, Muslim or practice Judaism.



I'm also not an atheist but I've binned religion for a while now

to the chistians here...
Attack religion and you're an atheist