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Jesus didn't quote those books as authority. Jesus
also command his disciples to pay tax.Jesus
wanted his disciples to obey authority.

the rock that Paul was talking about was christ not
physical rock.

I never said there was no other book but the bible
today is the only book given by God.

there may be book of Enoch but there is no
evidence that it exist it may just be prophecy that
was passed down generations orally.

it is but number of years was not stated.

I didn't tell you there are no other books.

Well what we have
today is the complete bible nothing more! Any
other book is not inspired are at best forged

JMAN05:
All that any true xten needs to be COMPLETELY EQUIPPED (not partially equipped) for every good work is in the scriptures

. So are you implying that the scripture is insufficient for doctrine? Note that never did Paul state that tradition was beneficial for doctrine.

No tradition, even if it is to be accepted should share equal authority with the scripture. Never!

Mark 7:13

13" Thus you make the word of God invalid by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like this"

The Pharisees believed that there were some things spoken by Moses that were not stated in the scripture, and that these were handed down thru time. This formed a strong part of there doctrine. This same belief has raised its urgly head in our time.

So, if any of such tradition affect the written word, it should be discarded as refuse. The scripture does not share equal authority with these traditions.

All the unwritten tradition that were essential for a xten were penned down in the scriptures.

Although the Pharisees had things they believed came down from Moses, Jesus never used such tradition as an authority when on earth. He rather stuck to the scriptures

Matthew 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 23:3 All therefore
whatsoever they bid you observe, that to bserve and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not

John 7:38 jesus says,Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them."

4evergod4:
Poor speculation. Your brain dey pain you shey?

4evergod4:
Up to speed indeed...

You will eventually make an intelligent comment when the demons that are fucking your brains for sadistic fun departs you.

For now you remain a sick little _fucker holed up in the suffocating burrow of the holy matrimony of depression & frustration.

Worry not, son, I will pray for U. Now run along. Blooming wizard!!

4evergod3:
Of course! Is he supposed to look like my security man?

4evergod3:
4kings God gave me a hebrew name to call him Rafa-el which was why i liked raphiemontella earlier on since he was raphael which is the english version.

On his birth card its spelt Rafa-el

KingEbukasBlog:
I made a huge mistake mentioning you , a huge one
Never mind if you can't address something rationally without any vitriol
My subsequent comments rubbished your shallow things anyway

Ranchhoddas:
A lot of the doctrines, if not all, are man-made.

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Intervention is intervention, my point is that the Creator's hand is felt is one way or the other even if we don't know or acknowledge it.

KingEbukasBlog:
Yeah and its inaccurate

The constructional elements of deist thought include :

1. God exists and created Nature

2. God gave humans the ability to reason

Some deists believe that God is not interested in human affairs , here is why I think they are wrong . And that stance by deism that God does not intervene seems dogmatic . So its unfair to religion that its theologies are repudiated by Deism .

Deists are proponents of the First cause and they believe this cause is external and uncaused . Now , imagine the law of cause and effect existing in timeless eternity . Example : 0 degree Celsius (cause ) , Frozen water (effect) . That means if this should take place in a timeless eternity then frozen water should always be . That is to say since God exists in timeless eternity as a cause , then the effect which is the universe should co-exist with God . But since the universe is created then it shows that God has the will to lead to its cause . And since it shows that God can act on Its own volition , then he is a personal God . A personal God is saliently implied in his timelessness and freedom of will since he set out and created a new effect which is the universe without any antecedent determining conditions

Ergo , God also has the freedom of will to intervene in the affairs of the universe and of men.

And that is why Polydeism is illogical too . That means you have multiple unembodied individual minds who very unlikely agreed in unison to cause the universe to exist .

And here is why Christianity is powerful true , since God is three cosubstantial hypothases then its very logical that these three irrefragably caused the universe since they are of one Divine mind though of distinct personalities..

I might be wrong

adepeter26:
@bold. Are you implying there is Muslim God also? Meaning there are two Gods now.

Still, you guys will say Christianity is not a religion.
Now again, is it possible to preach the existence of God without bringing in Religion?

Aswear, if Atheists are confused people, i can 100% say the Theists are more confused

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism rejects the existence of God . That means in atheism , the said deity who was involved in this relationship never existed .
Its like being in a relationship with your wife whose name is Sarah , then come out to say Sarah does not exist . That is an outlandish claim

If the person decides to end his relationship with Christ then you expect the person to be an apatheist or change religion . That is , he is now indifferent towards the existence of God (apatheism) or has found a new god to worship - not that the 'Christian God' does not exist as per what atheism is.

You dig ?

Ranchhoddas:
Una get time dey answer that boy. Mark Zuckerberg's facebook page declared him as atheist. What other evidence does one need again. You guys should just ignore him when he makes stupid threads.

hopefulLandlord:
you desperately wish your psychological projection is working, right?

here

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-27476027

there's NO independent trusted sauce that buttressed his alleged pantheism asides pantheist websites and an editable Wikipedia page listing pantheists, an oh! his main Wikipedia page shows nothing pantheism, hell googling the words "Jose Mujica Pantheist" gives you results of pantheist and pantheists leaning sites, hell even this Nairaland thread appears there

and oh! a pic too

try to wish his atheism away with better attempts

hopefulLandlord:
lol you're projecting your pain on me

anyone can go create a edit the Wikipedia page

check out list of atheists in politics

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_in_politics_and_law

his name is also right there

now you try giving me anywhere he ever claimed to be pantheist, just one independent trusted sauce that tastes nice

I wouldn't put it past you editing the page and putting him under pantheism your desperation screams to the high heavens

notjonbellion:
I think this forum should start paying for any thread opened
That way we won't be giving stupidity a chance

randomperson:
U can prove that he was never an atheist... Please do

4kings:
so you be benin boy.

4evergod3 your name has been destroyed jare, just type it on google and see the link google brings. Very embarrasing.
But the accusation on that thread is somehow. https://www.nairaland.com/450805/pls-beware-damogul-he-fraudster

niyihawking:
I like you sir for the intelligence you've display so far. as opposed to most xtain I've interacted with( most would rather become defensive when their belief is been questioned)


but I have just some problems with xtains beliefs

1. if it turns out that there are systems of worlds and not ours only, will Jesus then have to be moving from one world to another just to die for their sins.

2. the bible claims that god created heaven and earth, but now we know that, there is not just heaven and earth but a far more complex system. I shows that the bible was written by some old folks who do not understand the workings of the universe

3.why does it reflect the culture and tradition of that era?

4. and many more questions

this are some of the questions that moved me towards deism........


I'd be delighted if you can treat them to the best of your knowledge.

Ranchhoddas:
You are assuming that this interventions are as a result of human supplication. It doesn't necessarily have to be so. The interventions may be as a result of the Creator's will and not necessarily human pleas. This would explain why miracles are not unique to any group of people.

4kings:
A good yahoo boy, would have done that long ago, for future purposes
Anyways, let this case rest.

Ranchhoddas:
I don't believe our minds are equipped to fathom the reasons behind the Creator's interference or lack of it in various scenarios. We can only hope for such interventions when we require them.

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Something that would ordinarily not be expected to happen. Those things doubters like to call 'coincidence'.

notjonbellion:
bro you have no idea People aren't called con artists for nothing

Ranchhoddas:
Exactly my point. The atheist position is more logical than than the Deist one. It's either you say there is a God or there isn't. Saying that there is a God who doesn't interfere is like wanting to ''eat your cake and have it''.

Ranchhoddas:
Exactly. There is no limit to speculation.