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Islam › Re: Islam Forbids Boyfriends And Girlfriends by MrOlai(op): 12:57pm On Nov 13, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:
Thanks for the Enlightenment. Jazaakallah Khayran.
But unfortunately very few can abide by this that you've explained above.
omusiliyu:
Jazakallahu khaeeran
Geesarki:
Jazakallahu khaira Jazaa
personal59:
Jazakhallahu khairan
Tczar:
Op Jazakallahi khaerran
olaitan9291:
subhanallah!
Jazakunmullah khaer.
May Allah (subhanahu wa ta'la) reward you abundantly,
Increase your knowledge and faith in him.
Salaam aleikum waramatullah wabarakatuh.
Wa iyaakum.
Islam › Re: Islam Forbids Boyfriends And Girlfriends by MrOlai(op): 12:51pm On Nov 13, 2015
fatahtalks:
our daughters r too young for marriage but they r not too young to sleep around.
huh cry cry cry
Islam › Re: Islam Forbids Boyfriends And Girlfriends by MrOlai(op): 7:34am On Nov 13, 2015
Empiree:
Good one. I also blame some parents. I have heard cases of guys complaining about their parents in this regards. Either way, them guys need to face their book undecided
Those parents who encourage their children to bring home boyfriends/girlfriends probably lived the same kind of life before they got married! They will be partially held responsible before Allah(SWT)!
Islam › Islam Forbids Boyfriends And Girlfriends by MrOlai(op): 3:30pm On Nov 12, 2015
Allah(SWT) says in the Qur'an: "Let them remain chaste, those who are not capable of marriage, until Allah(SWT) enriches them out of His bounties." Allah(SWT) says in another verse: " Do not move near fornication/adultery..."

The Prophet(SAW) is reported to have said: "Be mindful of Allah(SWT) with respect to two things, and you shall be rewarded with Paradise". The companions of the Prophet(SAW) asked " What are those two things?" He(SAW) said: " The tongue and the private part".

There is absolutely no room for anything like boyfriend/girlfriend in Islam. It is actually a western concept. It is an avenue through which a boy/man and a girl/woman who are romantically attracted to each other "go out or hang out together".

Some of them have live sex with each other all in the name of boyfriend/girlfriend. Some of them, especially young girls and boys who still fear their parents, do the smooching and other acts that are exclusively for husbands and wives in Islam.

Sex and other romantic acts are exclusively for husbands and wives in Islam ie between married couples. Anything outside this, is a sin in Islam.


In a clear terms, boyfriend/girlfriend relationship is tantamount to fornication/adultery. It has taken different names nowadays; names like:
1. Dating

2. Relationship

3. Boyfriend

4. Girlfriend

5. Courtship

6. Manfriend

7. Just Friends, etc.

Fornication/Adultery is a major sin in Islam. It attracts severe punishment from Allah(SWT) for the doers unless they are forgiven by Allah(SWT).

So, for young boys and girls, there is no need to be in haste. Do not eat the forbidden fruit. Face your studies, plan and pray to Allah(SWT) for guidance and success, and when the time comes to settle down, you will have no cause to regret.
Romance › Re: Remove Islam’s ‘scarlet Letter’ Sex Laws -By dailybeast.com by MrOlai(op): 1:36pm On Nov 10, 2015
***shedding tears***
Romance › Remove Islam’s ‘scarlet Letter’ Sex Laws -By dailybeast.com by MrOlai(op):
[b]

. On a rocky patch of dirt in the mountainous province of Ghor in central Afghanistan, a band of about a dozen men, clad in turbans and traditional salwar kameez, or baggy pants and tunic, tower over a young woman, named Rokhshana, buried, yes, in a pit.

A pile of fresh dirt is piled around her shoulders and head, peeking out from the hole, just above ground. The long, dark shadows of the men dance around the woman menacingly.

In a shocking two-minute video, shot just days ago and ricocheting around the world this week, a man stops just a few feet from Rokhshana, close enough to look her in the eyes. He picks up a stone, reels back and flings it toward the young woman, aged about 19. The rock hits the ground, landing with a thud. The man reaches down to pick up another rock and throws again.


This time, the man hits his mark: Rokhshana, a name that means bright, brilliant and shining. Her crime: zina, or illegal sex, for rejecting a forced marriage for a love marriage. Her chosen husband was lashed and set free.

The men speak to each other in Pashto, the language of Pashtuns. Afghan government officials claim the Taliban, warlords and local mullahs,
or religious leaders, were responsible for the attack. At about 29 seconds, a man in white shouts to the woman, using Dari, another major language in Afghanistan, and says, “Kalima bogo.” “Say the kalima,” a Muslim proclamation of faith that is supposed to be the words we utter, as Muslims, in our last breath on this earth.

“La ilaha illallah Muhammad rasul Allah,” says a bellowing man’s voice beside the camera, the mountains towering in the horizon, alas, silent witness over the bloody murder scene. “There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.”

“We have to speak up to compensate for the loneliness Rokhshana suffered in the moment of her horrifying death.”
In turn, men walk up to the helpless woman, pelt stones at her head and shoulders and walk away. Rokhshana protests and, at 41 seconds, invoking divine aid, she whimpers, “Ai Allah jaan.”

“Oh, dear God.”

With this video of barbarism as living testimony by Rokhshana, killed that day, Muslims in the 21st century need to hear the young woman’s appeal. We must reject the scarlet letter culture of too many Muslim communities and repeal the medieval zina laws that criminalize consensual adult sex, from premarital sex to homosexuality. These laws lead to a culture of vigilante justice, shaming, and intimate tyranny.

I was not only a new mother but a criminal according to the sharia, practiced in Pakistan and too much of the Muslim world.
What transpires over the next two minutes of video strikes a blow not only at the conscience of the world, but Muslims, in particular, who want to invoke God’s name for good, not oppression, or zulm. While Rokhshana appeals to God for mercy, the men invoke the name of Allah to punish the woman for zina, which is criminalized by state-sanctioned sharia, or Islamic law, in countries from Afghanistan to Nigeria.

Like in Nathaniel Hawthorne’s Scarlet Letter, set in 19th-century puritanical America with the character Hester Prynne jailed and then sentenced to wearing the scarlet letter “A” for adultery, women in Muslim communities are disproportionately punished for zina, either with bodily harm, imprisonment, or shaming and emotional abuse. Men, too, are unjustly shamed and punished.

Referenced several times in the Quran, the ordinance against zina takes on a divine nature with edicts like, “Nor come night to zina for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)” (17:32). Another verse (24:2) makes it a crime punishable by 100 lashes and orders, “Let not compassion move you in their case.” It adds: “Let a party of the believers witness their punishment,” as occurred in the Afghan murder video. An allowance (24:4-5) metes out a punishment of 80 lashes against false accusers of “free women.”


But many of us, from organizations like Women Living Under Muslim Laws to a campaign, Violence is Not Our Culture, argue that higher Islamic principles trump this interpretation of justice from the seventh century, when Islam was born.

“The zina law is the ultimate manifestation of misogyny,” or hatred of women, says Nushin Arbabzadah, a lecturer at UCLA and an Afghan writer-activist on women’s rights and Islamic reform. Despite its traumatic affect, Arbabzadah watched the murder video with me, again and again, so we could accurately witness to Rokhshana’s last minutes on this earth. “This law turns women’s bodies into a prison. A murder weapon against women themselves. We have to speak up to compensate for the loneliness Rokhshana suffered in the moment of her horrifying death. We are all party to her death because we are cowards and crowd pleasers. We don't want to offend. Muslims need to develop a consciousness. We have lost our moral compass.”

[color=#990000]"As a 21st-century women,” says Arbabzadah, “I reject the zina law with every fiber of my body, every cell of my brain. It’s dark shadow hanging over us from the dark ages. We need light and this law keeps us in the dark ages.”


The videotaped murder took me back to a moment 13 years ago when I sat on the edge of a sofa in a home I had rented in Karachi, Pakistan, and looked down at a pregnancy test as it came back positive. I did three more tests. Reporting in Pakistan, post-9/11, I had fallen in love with a man who worked on Karachi’s Wall Street. We had plans of getting married, but when I told him I was pregnant, he told me, “I have to go.”

I was not only a new mother but a criminal according to the sharia, practiced in Pakistan and too much of the Muslim world. The evidence against me: my unborn baby. When I learned I was pregnant, I researched the abortion rulings in Islam. I learned that a baby is considered “viable” after it has passed about four months and experienced nafkh al ruh, or a proverbial breath of divine soul being blown into the fetus, giving it life. I considered aborting my baby to avoid the shame of being an “unwed mother.”

Yet, when my father, a conservative but loving man, learned that I was pregnant, he wrote me a simple email: “Allah is rehman. Allah is raheem.” “God is beneficient. God is merciful.” And my mother, also conservative but adoring, said, “Have the baby.”


When I lived in the shadow of shame, depressed and struggling, during my pregnancy, my mother walked with me in our neighborhood in my hometown of Morgantown, W.Va., and told me, “You don’t live in a village, Asra. Don’t live in shame.”

Christianity went through the same evolution we are seeking from Muslim societies with churches today mostly teaching that, while we may judge “the sin,” we should not judge “the sinner.” I gave birth to my son, my loving family around us, and gave him the first name, Shibli, which means “my lion cub,” and the middle name, Daneel, a version of the biblical name, Daniel, which means “God is the judge.”

When my son was 7 months old, I wrote my first opinion piece for The Washington Post, headlined, “She Shouldn’t Be Stoned. None of Us Should,” defending the right of a mother in Nigeria, Amina Lawal, to live freely and not be stoned to death for having a baby outside of marriage.
Three weeks ago, my family and I celebrated my son’s 13th birthday, my father buying my son cupcakes from Alexandria Cupcake in Northern Virginia, and my mother baking him a Betty Crocker yellow cake with chocolate icing. In a real show of love, these devoted grandparents walked Six Flags' Fright Fest with my son to celebrate his birthday, as he enjoyed rides like the “Apocalypse.”

Unfortunately, the culture of zina laws in Muslim societies has created a nightmare of personal repression, deceit, and human-rights violations. As my parents taught me, I believe that, in our Muslim communities, we must choose compassion and grace over stoning, condemnation, and shame. To that end, I wrote a Muslim Bill of Rights for Women in the Bedroom, which includes the right to have consensual adult sex without criminalization.

Sadly, in the 21st century, in our Muslim communities, we are still debating such base questions as whether pregnancy is proof of zina, whether MouthAction constitutes zina, whether a person should be lashed or stoned and, even, if a rape victim has committed zina.

To this, many of us say: what the fatwa.

Feminists like attorney Asifa Quraishi are trying to parse rational conclusions, in papers with titles like, “Islamic Legal Analysis of Zina Punishment of Bariya Ibrahim Magazu, Zamfara, Nigeria.”

In a paper published a few years ago, Ziba Mir Hosseini, an Iranian anthropologist who lives in London, argues that zina laws are part of a systemic “violence against women” in Muslim societies. And the organization, Women Living Under Muslim Law, notes the rise of zina laws with the upsurge in political Islam in the world in recent decades.

But, really, we need to end the culture of injustice and shame that zina laws foment.

Human Rights Watch notes that in Afghanistan at least 400 women and girls are imprisoned for “moral crimes,” including zina, “after being raped or forced into prostitution.” In Pakistan, women are unfairly punished under the “Hudood Ordinance,” or set of laws governing violations of hadd, or sacred crimes, put in place in 1979 after General Zia ul-Haq’s Islamization of Pakistan. About 200,000 cases under the Hudood laws were being prosecuted, according to a Human Rights Watch report some years ago. And countless others are punished, vigilante-style. Despite military and civilian rule, politicians haven’t had the courage to repeal the unjust laws.

Karamah, a nonprofit based in the U.S. focused on issues of women and Islamic law, concludes that zina laws used to criminalize rape victims are “incompatible with basic Qur’anic principles and the prophetic tradition.”

Amnesty International has called upon the government of Iran to stop executions for alleged violations of zina laws. In a report, “The Bloodied Stone,” an Iranian activist, Emadeddin Baghi, called for an end to stoning for zina.

Indeed, we need to be honest about the fact that the normative interpretation of sharia on zina is no different than the interpretation put forward by the executioners of the Islamic State.

Nemat Sadat, a native of Afghanistan and human-rights activist living in New York City, who has published a Change.org petition to oppose zina laws, as well as apostasy and anti-gay laws, says, “Honor violence is nothing new to Afghanistan or the Muslim world. It’s an oppressive system that’s been passed down for centuries. The international community has tried to stymie honor violence in Afghanistan by advocating for reform of women’s and girl’s rights.”

While stoning is technically illegal under the Afghan constitution, he says, “The problem lies with the lack of separation of mosque and state. While Afghanistan is a transitional democracy, it’s also an Islamic Republic. Islamic jurisprudence is mixed with and supersedes any secular law. Under sharia, it’s permissible to stone a person who’s violated a moral vice like adultery or pre-marital sex. These contradicting laws and appeasement to Islamists in Afghanistan allows for the Taliban and other radical elements to misuse religion to exercise their authority and justify their violent crimes, which too often results in capital punishment.”

He notes: “Until the government of Afghanistan—and all Muslim societies—decriminalize apostasy, adultery, homosexuality, etc., the mob violence without due course of justice will continue with impunity and the gender, religious and sexual apartheid will continue to punish the silent majority who have no say over the supremacy of patriarchs and their divine law.”
This murder harkens back to the murder of another young woman, Farkhunda, at a mosque in Kabul at the feet of men, most of them lightly punished, if at all, by Afghan judges. In defiance, Afghan women carried Farkhunda’s coffin to her burial.
In the video of her murder, the men ignore Rokhshana’s pleas for mercy. Instead, one man winds up, leftie-style, and flings a rock at her with all of his might, stepping into his throw.

In our latest act of brutality, as stones hit her, Rokhshana whimpers.
She squirms and turns in the tight space, trying to escape the rocks. The rocks smack against her with a thud, bouncing off her fragile body.

As the men fling stones at the woman at a more frenzied pace, the woman’s high-pitched cries become more desperate.

One by one, about two dozen men, squatting nearby, join in the assault. One man passes the camera to another man so his hands are free to stone Rokhshana.

At 1:20 in the video, a man throws a huge rock, smacking her in the back of the head, the rock tumbling backward into her pit of death, and in the 40 seconds that follow, the men circle her and pelt rocks at her, stones raining upon her from all directions, as she wails in a stream of protests, crying, “Ai Allah.”

“Oh God.”

It’s time that we, as divine beings on this earth, listen.


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Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 11:04pm On Nov 08, 2015
Empiree:
It's no news in America's sin city aka Las Vegas, where Saudi royals frequent and parade "oloshos". Some Americans are quiet aware of this. Why is this not considered making islam look black?
Evil would always remain evil. This in itself, if true, is an evil that would give Islam bad name.
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op):
AlBaqir:
[size=25pt]Reference(s) please?![/size]
This is another fatwa from shia scholar saying a cook/chef can do mut'ah with a girl in the house.. Subhanallah!
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgAj3OluD87U&ved=0CBoQuAIwAGoVChMIxobpvtCByQIVhaYeCh19VwLk&usg=AFQjCNGLXdItwgPZCTpJpgw7ih5ypSCRrA&sig2=Fc-EJpFLZlI1Kt2hhjc0WA

This is another shameless shia woman into prostitution in the name of mut'ah, giving Islam bad name! May Allah(SWT) in His mercy pardon her and let her come to her senses (Amin).

"A Muslim woman known as Fairuza is said to offer sex services to men but strictly keeps the Shia Islamic principles.
The 25-yr-old escort reportedly performs the quickie service by reading a religious text in Arabic and takes the money as a "dowry".

And once the deed is done, she divorced the two of them from their temporary marriage – “nikah mut’ah” – arrangement.
According to The Sun, belly dancer Fairuza told an undercover reporter that once the marriage is up the client must wait three months to request the service again.

In a secret video filmed by the newspaper, she revealed: "I married myself to you for one hour and agreed upon the money you’ve given me. It’s £300 and £50 for the marriage. If you want to renew it we can do it within three months.

“Even though we do mut’ah, you must still use a condom. I don’t do it without condom. Some people think that if you do mut’ah you don’t have to use a condom.”

The Daily Star reports that Fairuza is believed to be one of many Muslim women now offering the guilt-free service.
On a hidden escort advertising website, Fairuza boasts to have "very beautiful natural 34DD breasts" and a "very pretty face with juicy lips".

Her Twitter account, which is thought to have recently been deleted, had more than 85,000 followers – all of which could see her raunchy topless posts.

In the video she explains that some men are converting to Shia Islam to take advantage of the sin-free sex.
She explains: “I did it with one Saudi who converted to Shia Islam only so he could do mut’ah.
"He was in London for two months. I was his wife for the two months. I lived with him and I wasn’t allowed to be with any other man. He paid very good money.
“He is coming back next year and we’ll do it again."

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://pulse.ng/religion/in-uk-muslim-prostitute-marries-customers-to-avoid-fornication-divorces-them-after-sex-id3598492.html&ved=0CBkQFjAAahUKEwiHueLG1IHJAhXDRQ8KHa1-CLs&usg=AFQjCNEerAcGfKE3EHNzvmYbJST1kHPF5g&sig2=iRVxDI9LfWjWf_uwmJQ5BQ

Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op):
AlBaqir:
[size=25pt]Reference(s) please?![/size]
Abuamam:
The Shi'ite sect was originally a political offshoot that felt that Ali bin abi Talib (ra); the cousin of the prophet (saw), should have been the Caliph after the prophet (saw). Some accepted the rule of the first 3 caliphs and supported Ali against Muawiyyah, who had issues with him... hence the name; Shi'at Ali or group for Ali.

At that time, they did not have a seperate faith or tenets or religious beliefs... except for the political issue, you know, like a PDP, APC thing; only much worse.


Later on, after the death of both Ali and Muawiyyah, they pledged allegiance to the descendants of the prophet (saw), until Hasan his grandson abdicated the rule, and Hussain his younger grandson was murdered by the people living in Kufa in Iraq, after enticing him with promise of support. Even then, the Shi'a were still only political.


The matter came to a head when some Shi'a offered support to Zayd bin Ali bin Hussain bin Ali, a great grandson of Ali, to take the rulership of the Muslim nation. The Shi'a split into 2. Some refused to support him because he refused to denounce Abu bakr and Umar; the first 2 rulers. Hence Zayd referred to them as Rafidha or Rejecters. They make up the majority of the Shi'a today, and are found in Iran, the gulf countries and Lebanon.


Those that accepted to support Zayd bin Ali bin Hussain, became known as Zaydis and are found in Yemen (the houthis). There are other Shi'a sect offshoots like the batiniyyah, the Ismailiyyah, the alawites, the baha'is, the babis, the druze even the ahmadiyyah...etc etc dozens.


The Rafidha (also known as the twelver imams), now started to create a new system of faith, with their own hadith which they imputed falsely to the descendants of the prophet (saw), until all members of the line; which they claimed to be 'Imams'; passed away; upon which they attributed an imaginary son to the last of them; who actually died childless; and claimed that this son was 'hidden secretely' with the true copy of their own Quran, and would only emerge in the last days to lead them to victory.


Some of their founders; due to extreme hatred of the companions who transmitted the deen to us; rejected almost all the companions; and the wives of the prophet (saw) as kuffar, or hypocrites. Naturally, to them, this meant that everything that the companions transmitted to us as Islam was criticized as a lie; even the Quran; which they claimed had been changed and corrupted to cover up their cardinal doctrine of twelve Imams.


They however, have a practice; which non-Muslims falsely try to foist on all Muslims, called the taqiyyah. This involves lying as an act of faith, to deceive their perceived opponents into believing their outward exhibition of conformity with some orthodox sunni Islam beliefs. Many of their lay adherents are therefore, ignorant of most of their real beliefs, for example, they would say that they have no other Quran; but the books written by their scholars refute these denials.


I might add that the Rafidha also attribute Godly characteristics to their 12 Imams, such as omniscience and omnipotence. They also seek 'blessings' by praying to graves and shrines; many of which are acts of the pre-Islamic days of ignorance.


The Ashura day on which the Prophet(SWT) recommended fasting for the Muslims, the shia use it in commemoration of the murder of Hussain bin Ali, wherein they gather together in their 'Hussainiyyat', recite emotional (often exaggerated) narratives of the tragedy, and sometimes whip and slash themselves with swords and knives... thinking that they are seeking Allah's pleasure by doing so.
Today, this is the dominant sect of Shi'a.
Allah knows best.
In addition to all Abuamam has said, another thing shia engage themselves in, which Allah(SWT) and His Prophet(SAW) had made haram is what they call Mut'ah. Here, a shia man and a woman agree to have sex with each other for a specific period of time! The period could be weeks, days or even hours!

Shia Ayatollah Khomeini stated in his book "Tahir-ul-Wasila", Vol. 2, Page No. 292, "Temporary marriage can be for one day, a night, and even just a few hours ! But for Khomeini, that was not enough so he further states in the same book on Page No. 292, "Temporary marriage can be performed with harlots and prostitutes".

Subhanallah! May Allah(SWT) in His mercy, rectify their affairs. May He(SWT) safe us all from their fitna (Amin).
Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by MrOlai:
MuhdG:
I don't understand lipsrsealed
Some shia accuse Aisha(R.A) of poisoning the Prophet(SAW).
Some of them accuse her(R.A) of committing zina.
Some of them rain curses on her(R.A).
All of them accuse her of treachery and use unprintable words on her(R.A).

When you confront them on any of these, they use their Taqiyya. You can verify this by asking their leader on this forum, Albaqir.
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op):
hollaytan:
@mr ola and albaqir, huh huh huh huh what example are you laying by using foul and derogatory words on each other?
Albaqir is the one using foul and derogatory words. Check well.
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 2:49pm On Nov 08, 2015
AlBaqir:
Anyway dear brother let this fool, MrOlai, continue his stupidity.
Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by MrOlai: 12:28pm On Nov 08, 2015
AlBaqir:
"What (does) Shia think about Aisha?!"
Answer:
AlBaqir:
There is a narration in Tafsir al-Ayyashi which states that the Prophet (pbuh) was poisoned by his two wives, A’isha and Hafsa.
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 12:18pm On Nov 08, 2015
AlBaqir:
[size=25pt]Reference(s) please?![/size]
Abuamam:
They however, have a practice; which non-Muslims falsely try to foist on all Muslims, called the taqiyyah . This involves lying as an act of faith, to deceive their perceived opponents into believing their outward exhibition of conformity with some orthodox sunni Islam beliefs. Many of their lay adherents are therefore, ignorant of most of their real beliefs, for example, they would say that they have no other Quran; but the books written by their scholars refute these denials.
Allah knows best.
For this above, this is the reference(from shia imams):

Imam Baqir, says: "Taqiyah is my religion and the religion of my forefathers: He who has no taqiyah has no faith"
Imam Sadiq says, "My father used to reiterate that nothing pleased him as much as taqiyah did because taqiyah is a believer's shield and a means for his protection."

Once again Albaqir, may Allah(SWT) in His mercy have mercy on you and bring you back into Islam as laid down by the Prophet (SAW).
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 11:49am On Nov 08, 2015
AlBaqir:
[size=25pt]Reference(s) please?![/size]
Abuamam:
I might add that the Rafidha also attribute Godly characteristics to their 12 Imams, such as omniscience and omnipotence. They also seek 'blessings' by praying to graves and shrines; many of which are acts of the pre-Islamic days of ignorance.
For this above, this is the reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxD7L0fqmPs
According to the shia scholar, just say "Ya Ali" , "Ya Ali" ... The other part of the video shows shia seeking 'blessings' by praying to grave/shrine.

It's so unfortunate. May Allah(SWT) in His mercy rectify their affairs(Amin).

This is another video of shia at Hajj chanting "Labbayk ya Hussein" instead of "Labbayk Allahuma Labbayk". Subhanallah!

https://www.facebook.com/LafatailaAli/videos/vb.252116178213460/10151924730426136/?type=2&theater
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 10:34am On Nov 08, 2015
AlBaqir:
STILL ON THE CALL TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE
Qur'an says: Say: Provide clear proves if you are truthful
Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah highlights the necessity of providing evidence:
"The reply is from several angles. One of them is: evidence must be presented for the authenticity of whatever is quoted. Unless this is done, using it as proof is invalid."
{Minhaj al-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah (Muasassat Qur'ubah; 1st edition,1406H) [annotator: Dr. Muhammad Rashad salim], vol.7, p.136}
Elsewhere, in rejecting a report, Ibn Taymiyyah adds:
"It is said (in reply) that first and foremost, he has not mentioned any chain for this narration. Therefore, its authenticity is unknown. This is because the authenticity of quoted reports is known only through their authentic chains"
{Ibid, vol.3, p.138}
In line of this ground rules, I challenge Abuaman to kindly provide Sahih evidences {ahadith or athar} to support his gibberish quoted above [against Shia]. Obviously the likes of MrOlai and Fundamentalist are rookies and never up to the task.
You must be a joker! Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimahullah) you consider a kafir! You still have the gut to use his statements to defend yourself!
Islam › Re: A Note On The Ijaazaat Of Shaykh Muhammad Naasirud-deen Al-albaanee by MrOlai: 12:33am On Nov 08, 2015
^^° Nice one! However, always try to present lengthy write-ups in paragraphs. This would encourage the readers to read.
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op):
AlBaqir:
[size=25pt]Reference(s) please?![/size]
Abuamam:
The Ashura day on which the Prophet(SWT) recommended fasting for the Muslims, the shia use it in commemoration of the murder of Hussain bin Ali, wherein they gather together in their 'Hussainiyyat', recite emotional (often exaggerated) narratives of the tragedy, and sometimes whip and slash themselves with swords and knives ... thinking that they are seeking Allah's pleasure by doing so.
Today, this is the dominant sect of Shi'a.
For this above, this is the reference:

https://www.nairaland.com/661419/matyrdom-lady-fatimadaughter-prophet-muhammad/1#8464450
This is so unfortunate! What is the sin of the innocent child?

Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by MrOlai: 8:56pm On Nov 07, 2015
Fundamentalist:
Nothing new to AL baqir. .. Don't waste your mb on him
Thanks. But, don't you think, sometimes, a conscious sincere Muslim should respond to his deception? Perhaps, somebody out there might be saved from his fitna.
Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by MrOlai:
AlBaqir:
Tampering Of Hadeeth To Include A'isha
Imam Al-Bukhari documents:
Narrated Adam from Sho'ba and narrated Amr from Sho'ba from Amr ibn Morra from Morra from Abi Musa Al-Ash'ari who said:
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Maryam daughter of Imran and Aasia wife of Pharaoh and the superiority of A'isha to other women, is like the superiority of Tharid (meat and bread dish) to other meals."
Source: Saheeh Al-Bukhari. Pg. # 924
Note:The above narration appears with exactly the same chain of transmission [sanad] in Al-Tabari's Tafsir, but with no mention of A'isha being from the chief women of paradise
Imam Al-Tabari:
Narrated Al-Mothanna from Adam Al-Asqalani from Sho'ba from Amr ibn Morra who said: I heard from Morra Al-Hamdani a narration from Abi Musa Al-Ash'ari who said:
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Maryam and Aasia wife of Pharaoh and Khadijah daughter of Khuwaylid and Faatimah daughter of Muhammad (saw)."
Source: Tafsir Jamehul Bayan Al-Tabari. Vol. 5, Pg. # 395
Ibn Kathir with further Tampering
Imam Ibn Kathir:
Narrated ibn Mardawaih through Sho’ba from Muawiya ibn Qorra from his father who said:
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except three!!! Maryam daughter of Imran and Aasia daughter Mozahim wife of Pharaoh and Khadijah daughter of Khuwaylid, and the superiority of A'isha to other women, is like the superiority of Tharid (meat and bread dish) to other meals."
Source: Tafsir ibn Kathir. Vol. 2, Pg. # 40.
Ibn Jarir said: Narrated Al-Mothanna from Adam Al-Asqalani from Sho'ba from Amr ibn Morra who said: I heard from Morra Al-Hamdani a narration from Abi Musa Al-Ash'ari who said:
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Maryam (s.a) and Aasia wife of Pharaoh."
Source: Tafsir ibn Kathir. Vol. 2, Pg. # 41
Ibn Taymiyyah Confirmation
Ibn Taymiyyah writes:
And the Prophet (saw) said: "Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except four, So truthful men are many." Source: Minhaj Al-Sunnah. Vol. 5, Pg. # 28
Ibn Taymiyyah further writes:
And this is a Saheeh (Authentic) narration from the Prophet (saw) who said: "Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except four, So truthful men are many." Source: Al Esteqama. Vol. 2, Pg. # 156
There is no ambiguity in that someone has distorted these narrations in order to include Umm al-Mu'mineen, A'isha in the list. On some occasions, Bibi Faatima (peace be upon her) has been removed, in others it may be that Bibi Khadijah (peace be upon her) has been excluded or even both! Likewise, there are narrations which have mentioned all four women and A'isha has been mentioned as the fifth of them! It is obvious from the narration, particularly the part: "The superiority of A'isha to other women, is like the superiority of Tharid (meat and bread dish) to other meals" is not part of the original matn ['content'] of the Hadeeth rather, it is an addition. It is also not in conjunction with other corroborating narrations where it specifically mentions Four women i.e. "Four most superior women in paradise..." and "It suffices four women...".
Meaning..?

You want to start bashing Aisha(R.A) again?
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 1:22pm On Nov 06, 2015
AlBaqir:
[size=25pt]Reference(s) please?![/size] [quote author=MrOlai post=39733374][quote author=Abuamam post=33511751]Some of their founders; due to extreme hatred of the companions who transmitted the deen to us; rejected almost all the companions; and the wives of the prophet (saw) as kuffar, or hypocrites.
[/quote]For this above, this is the reference:

AlBaqir:
We (Shia) have over many centuries after the demise of the holy prophet (saws) presented our 12 Imams as being successor of the holy prophet, it is alarming that Ahl Sunna wal Jama'a (past or present) have NEVER reach any conclusion as who were those 12 as many of their Khalifas were monsters, murderers, adulterers and devil incarnates.
AlBaqir:
There is a narration in Tafsir al-Ayyashi which states that the Prophet (pbuh) was poisoned by his two wives, A’isha and Hafsa.
AlBaqir:
@golpen,
Yes I have a big problem with them, dear brother. I need answers because I just can't reconcile sahaba, accusing my beloved prophet a derailed, prevented him from writing his will on his death-bed that would have saved u from perdition,doubting his prophethood, ran away from war and left him(a.s) with his enemies, killed his family yet being promised al-jannah despite Allah saying: "if you raise your voice or abuse prophet...your deeds will be void", Allah frown and will punish those who ran away and left the prophet in war, etc.
As for me, if I follow those sahaba footsteps, then am doomed but if I follow the righteous among them, then success is mine. They are all examples for us and the choice is ours on who to follow.
... grin grin grin grin
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 8:34am On Nov 06, 2015
AlBaqir:
# What is the meaning of Shi'ism in line with the definition of Ahl al-Sunnah Aimmah?
# Evidence that there were no Shi'a {or Shi'ism} during the lifetime of the Prophet [peace be upon him and his progeny]
# Evidence that Shi'ism emerged during the time of Imam Ali [peace be upon him]
# Evidence that Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman were "The Rightly guided Khalifah" mentioned by the holy Prophet where he commanded the Ummah to adhere to their Sunnah.
Thanks.
This is the genesis of your religion (Shi'ism) and all it stands for:

Abuamam:
The Shi'ite sect was originally a political offshoot that felt that Ali bin abi Talib (ra); the cousin of the prophet (saw), should have been the Caliph after the prophet (saw). Some accepted the rule of the first 3 caliphs and supported Ali against Muawiyyah, who had issues with him... hence the name; Shi'at Ali or group for Ali.

At that time, they did not have a seperate faith or tenets or religious beliefs... except for the political issue, you know, like a PDP, APC thing; only much worse.


Later on, after the death of both Ali and Muawiyyah, they pledged allegiance to the descendants of the prophet (saw), until Hasan his grandson abdicated the rule, and Hussain his younger grandson was murdered by the people living in Kufa in Iraq, after enticing him with promise of support. Even then, the Shi'a were still only political.


The matter came to a head when some Shi'a offered support to Zayd bin Ali bin Hussain bin Ali, a great grandson of Ali, to take the rulership of the Muslim nation. The Shi'a split into 2. Some refused to support him because he refused to denounce Abu bakr and Umar; the first 2 rulers. Hence Zayd referred to them as Rafidha or Rejecters. They make up the majority of the Shi'a today, and are found in Iran, the gulf countries and Lebanon.


Those that accepted to support Zayd bin Ali bin Hussain, became known as Zaydis and are found in Yemen (the houthis). There are other Shi'a sect offshoots like the batiniyyah, the Ismailiyyah, the alawites, the baha'is, the babis, the druze even the ahmadiyyah...etc etc dozens.


The Rafidha (also known as the twelver imams), now started to create a new system of faith, with their own hadith which they imputed falsely to the descendants of the prophet (saw), until all members of the line; which they claimed to be 'Imams'; passed away; upon which they attributed an imaginary son to the last of them; who actually died childless; and claimed that this son was 'hidden secretely' with the true copy of their own Quran, and would only emerge in the last days to lead them to victory.


Some of their founders; due to extreme hatred of the companions who transmitted the deen to us; rejected almost all the companions; and the wives of the prophet (saw) as kuffar, or hypocrites. Naturally, to them, this meant that everything that the companions transmitted to us as Islam was criticized as a lie; even the Quran; which they claimed had been changed and corrupted to cover up their cardinal doctrine of twelve Imams.


They however, have a practice; which non-Muslims falsely try to foist on all Muslims, called the taqiyyah. This involves lying as an act of faith, to deceive their perceived opponents into believing their outward exhibition of conformity with some orthodox sunni Islam beliefs. Many of their lay adherents are therefore, ignorant of most of their real beliefs, for example, they would say that they have no other Quran; but the books written by their scholars refute these denials.


I might add that the Rafidha also attribute Godly characteristics to their 12 Imams, such as omniscience and omnipotence. They also seek 'blessings' by praying to graves and shrines; many of which are acts of the pre-Islamic days of ignorance.


The Ashura day on which the Prophet(SWT) recommended fasting for the Muslims, the shia use it in commemoration of the murder of Hussain bin Ali, wherein they gather together in their 'Hussainiyyat', recite emotional (often exaggerated) narratives of the tragedy, and sometimes whip and slash themselves with swords and knives... thinking that they are seeking Allah's pleasure by doing so.
Today, this is the dominant sect of Shi'a.
Allah knows best.
It's so unfortunate! May Allah(SWT) have mercy on you and bring you back into Islam as laid down by the Prophet (SAW).
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 8:11am On Nov 06, 2015
Fundamentalist:
I wonder how exposing the half truth and lies made by AL baqir in previous posts becomes a way of 'derailing your threads' .
Alhamdulillah it's only learned Muslims that don't go for your garbage you call educative thread.
Don't mind him. A very cunning human being! I'm not surprised because Shi'ism is all about Taqiyya!
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 8:36pm On Nov 05, 2015
AlBaqir:
grin grin grin Subhan'Allah wala haola wala quwata illah billah.
So, MrOlai kindly provide solid evidence to back your lies.
This very story was actually the opposite and it was not at the time of Imam Ahmad. Imam Ahmad was a contemporary of Musa Ibn Jafar, al-Kazim; Ali ibn Musa ar-Ridha, both the Aimma of the Ahl al-bayt (peace be upon them). Imam Ahmad and other scholars of the Sunni had a great respect for them.
The story stole by MrOlai happened to Allamah al-Hilli who happened to be a contemporary of Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah. In fact, it was Allamah al-Hilli's book "Minhaj al-Karaama fi ma'rifat al-Imaama", that brought up Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah's book "Minhaj al-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah" as a responds.
The Genesis of the story
Hasan ibn Yusuf ibn Ali ibn Muthahhar Al-Hilli, more commonly known as Allamah al-Hilli (b. 648AH)
He was known for his wit and wisdom. Those, together with his solid knowledge in Shi’i doctrines would give strength to his arguments and thereby enormous fame in forums and councils. He was of great influence in Persia where he moved in 1305 and had contributed to wide spreading of the teachings and philosophy of Ahl al-Bayt. He was able to convert Oljaitu, the eight ruler of the Ilkhanid dynasty, into Shi'ism which led to proclaiming Shia Islam as the state religion. His cleverness has been documented on many different occasions in Hilla and Persia. Most famous of his stories was probably when the Sultan of Persia, who divorced his wife thrice, sent for him for an advice. In the royal court of the Sultan, Al-Hilli showed eloquence and prudence utterly superior to all other scholars present, who belonged to other school of thoughts and had gathered for the purpose of sabotaging Allamah Hilli.
It is here that the story was mentioned where Allamah al-Hilli entered court of the Sultan of Persia, Oljaitu, with his shoes on his armpit. A Maliki scholar was the first to throw a word, "why this act?" Allamah al-Hilli responded,"perhaps that was how the Malikis used to do at the time of the Prophet". The Maliki scholar instantly voiced out "There were no Maliki at the time of the Prophet".
Allamah al-Hilli faced the other Scholars {Hanbali, Hanafi, Shafi'i etc} and said the same to them. All of them denied there were no such school during the time of the prophet. Then Allamah al-Hilli exploded by facing the Sultan "You can confirm yourself that there were none of these school of thought at the time of the Prophet but I am of the school whose birth time was at the time of the holy Prophet; and that school was established by 'Ali ibn Abi Talib which go through a straight chain to his offspring {the progeny of the holy Prophet }"
# Reference: History of Islamic Thought by Henry Cobin, pg. 321.
Taqiya!
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 4:40pm On Nov 05, 2015
AlBaqir:
The story stole by MrOlai..
This is another gbagaun... @bolded.. grin
It is "STOLEN"... not stole..
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op):
AlBaqir:
Alhamdulillah you are being honest here. But recounting an unverify information is foolishness.
You and ur gunshots... @bolded... The way you dey throw way gbagaun on did forum.... grin

It is UNVERIFIED.... not unverify..
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 4:06pm On Nov 05, 2015
AlBaqir:
Alhamdulillah you are being honest here. But recounting an unverify information is foolishness.
You are abusing me niyen oooo.. grin grin grin grin
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 1:24pm On Nov 05, 2015
AlBaqir:
The question we ask is "From where and whom did he heard the story?"
I'm not the author of the story. You can kindly go to the link and ask the author.

But honestly, there was nothing like Shi'ism during the lifetime of the Prophet (SAW). What the Prophet (SAW) left is Islam as practised by Himself (SAW) and His Khulafah Rashidun(Rightly Guided Caliphs) in persons of Abubakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali (R. A. Ajmain).

Shi'sm started much more later during the lifetime of Ali(R.A). It is even reported that Ali(R.A) killed many of the Shia who were introducing Shi'ism into Islam.
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 9:48am On Nov 05, 2015
AlBaqir:
Sometimes I wonder if you have senses at all. At first you lied with a story that Shi'a claimed there were no Shi'a at the time of the Prophet. Now a part of the same lies got you cracking where it says "Shi'a [existed at Prophet's time] for they used to steal sandals". Do you think at all?
grin grin grin

According to the story from the link, Imam Ahmad never meant Shia existed during the lifetime of the Prophet (SAW) with the statement: “I heard that the Shia in the Prophet(SAW)'s time used to steal sandals”. He wanted the Shia to confess, which they did. Perhaps, they would have a rethink on their new religion.

It seems you have comprehension problem!
Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 8:22am On Nov 05, 2015
Fundamentalist:
Lol. Though I have had about it but have yet to see a reference for it. It would better you provide proof to back up what you have just said
You are very correct. However, it's not from me. It's actually from the link below.

https://www.nairaland.com/2676207/educative-debate-between-sunni-shia#39143155

“I heard that the Shia in the Prophet(SAW)'s time used to steal sandals”. This part got me cracking... grin
Islam › An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by MrOlai(op): 9:18pm On Nov 04, 2015
*Logic Story of Imaam Ahmad(Rahimahullah Warahmatan Wasian) & the Shia:

All the scholars of Shia attended a meeting to discuss the whole issue of Sunni & Shia. Only one Sunni Scholar attended the meeting, Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal. He walked in late to the meeting holding his sandals under his armpit.

The Scholars of the Shia looked at him and asked “Why have you entered holding your sandals?” Imam Ahmed replied: “I heard that the Shia in the Prophet(SAW)'s time used to steal sandals”. So the scholars of the Shia looked at each other confused and replied: “There was no Shia in the Prophet's time.”

Then, Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said: “This ends our discussion. Then, where did u get ur religion from?

What an intelligent and creative behavior!


https://www.nairaland.com/2676207/educative-debate-between-sunni-shia#39143155
grin grin grin
Islam › Re: Straightening Rows And Standing Shoulders To Shoulders, Feet To Feet In Salat by MrOlai(op): 8:46pm On Nov 03, 2015
Salat-ul-Jam'a(Congregational Salat) During the Lifetime of the Prophet (SAW) by the Companions before the Prophet (SAW):


Anas ibn Malik (R.A) reported on their Salat:

“Everyone of us used to put his shoulder with the shoulder of his companion and his foot with the foot of his companion .”


[Bukhari]

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