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إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِندَ اللَّهِ الْإِسْلَامُ

AlBaqir:
@MrOlai, I find it useless and unworthy to reply every accusation you guys made. May Allah forgive you all. I thought this should be an intellectual discourse but unfortunately the discussion is going real wild with no sense of human decency. However, just for the record, i have NEVER labeled Sunni first 3 khalifah (Abu Bakar, Umar and Uthman) as Murderers, adulterers, devil-incarnate as you want people to believe. Only ignorants accept what fool spread around. No wonder Quran advice the believers to verify news brought by the wicked {surah Hujurat}. Truly I have a lot of issues with them but I can never labeled them what they did not commit. You would have prove your point should you post the link where you culled my statement from so that people could see the context clearly.
The discussion was on the twelve khalifas that prophet ordered the believers to follow after him. And my point was, "who were those 12 khalifas?" Shia presented its own but Sunni never did. In fact they don't even know them. Sunni have more than 12 khalifas upon which many were murderers, adulterers, devil-incarnate. Sunni's Khilafah ended in the Ottoman Empiree of the 19th century.
[size=28pt]I beg for justice where Al-baqir ever accused Abu Bakar, Umar and Uthman as MrOlai want innocent people to believe. You dare not quote my post where Imam Muslim in his Sahih documented that 'Ali and Abbas thought Abu Bakar, Umar and Uthman to be Liar, traitor and treacherous. While this is a quote from your beloved book, I have never made such a daunting claim![/size]
Lastly, the website I posted is never a Shii web-page. If you are sure it is, kindly prove me wrong. A lazy, dogmatic and fanatical being will continue looking for silly excuses. This is a public forum where millions viewer read more than you can ever imagine. Don't treat this forum as your daddy's rest room mister.
Like you always did, you've made mess of this thread already and your alias shall forever remain in the mind of the intellectuals. WA Salam alaykum.

quote author=golpen post=18538460]Do you have a problem with the twelve entering paradise? You better stop opinionating on who will enter paradise or hell and who is a kafir or muslim, as you don't even know which one (jannah or hell) is bound for you. Try on increasing in your deen and ask ALLAH for forgiveness. ALLAH owns everybody's return and owns our judgement in HIS hands.[/quote]

AlBaqir:
@golpen,
Yes I have a big problem with them, dear brother. I need answers because I just can't reconcile sahaba, accusing my beloved prophet a derailed, prevented him from writing his will on his death-bed that would have saved u from perdition,doubting his prophethood, ran away from war and left him(a.s) with his enemies, killed his family yet being promised al-jannah despite Allah saying: "if you raise your voice or abuse prophet...your deeds will be void", Allah frown and will punish those who ran away and left the prophet in war, etc.
As for me, if I follow those sahaba footsteps, then am doomed but if I follow the righteous among them, then success is mine. They are all examples for us and the choice is ours on who to follow.

Can somebody observe TAQIYYA here?

Albaqir was referring to Caliph Umar(R.A.) here!

MrOlai:
Really, our unity as Muslims is very important. However, we need to be very careful! We should not accommodate or encourage what is not part of Islam under the guise of unity especially those that would take a person out of Islam. I'm not really referring to this thread. I'm referring to dangerous Shi'a concepts.
Take for instance, On Bestiality, the Prophet(SAW) said:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill the animal along with him!" This shows the prohibition of Bestiality in Islam.
Just look at fatwa from Shia scholar:
"Sex with animals before the mission (Islam) was wide spread and many narrations are narrated that it is halal but makrooh (disliked). And on the compulsory precaution one should abandon this practice that may cause self harm. And you must admit this to the owner of the sheep and pay the owner.
Sex with animals Fatwa
al-Uzma Seyyid Ali al-Sistan

@Albaqir. According to your scholar Al-Uzma Seyyid Ali al-Sistan in the fatwa above, " Sex with animals before the mission (Islam) was wide spread and many narrations are narrated that it is halal...", could you please cite just one narration either from the Prophet(SAW) or from Salaf Solihin that states that Bestiality is halal in line with the fatwa above?

AlBaqir:
@MrOlai, I find it useless and unworthy to reply every accusation you guys made. May Allah forgive you all. I thought this should be an intellectual discourse but unfortunately the discussion is going real wild with no sense of human decency. However, just for the record, i have NEVER labeled Sunni first 3 khalifah (Abu Bakar, Umar and Uthman) as Murderers, adulterers, devil-incarnate as you want people to believe. Only ignorants accept what fool spread around. No wonder Quran advice the believers to verify news brought by the wicked {surah Hujurat}. Truly I have a lot of issues with them but I can never labeled them what they did not commit. You would have prove your point should you post the link where you culled my statement from so that people could see the context clearly.
The discussion was on the twelve khalifas that prophet ordered the believers to follow after him. And my point was, "who were those 12 khalifas?" Shia presented its own but Sunni never did. In fact they don't even know them. Sunni have more than 12 khalifas upon which many were murderers, adulterers, devil-incarnate. Sunni's Khilafah ended in the Ottoman Empiree of the 19th century.
[size=28pt]I beg for justice where Al-baqir ever accused Abu Bakar, Umar and Uthman as MrOlai want innocent people to believe. You dare not quote my post where Imam Muslim in his Sahih documented that 'Ali and Abbas thought Abu Bakar, Umar and Uthman to be Liar, traitor and treacherous. While this is a quote from your beloved book, I have never made such a daunting claim![/size]
Lastly, the website I posted is never a Shii web-page. If you are sure it is, kindly prove me wrong. A lazy, dogmatic and fanatical being will continue looking for silly excuses. This is a public forum where millions viewer read more than you can ever imagine. Don't treat this forum as your daddy's rest room mister.
Like you always did, you've made mess of this thread already and your alias shall forever remain in the mind of the intellectuals. WA Salam alaykum.

AlBaqir:
Empiree, it seems you've violate this ayah below, may Allah forgive you and me, brother:
O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it, lest you harm a people in ignorance, then be sorry for what you have done.
Tahrir wasila of Imam Khomeini is on the internet to read or download in any format you want. Why don't you verify first before you pass judgment of "that's wrong"! A fasiq will always quote out of context.

AlBaqir:
Ma Allah bless you brother with this reply to MrOlai. You can easily discern the level of his comprehension. Very difficult to discuss with. However, what does all that got to do with the topic of discussion? Derailing and mud-slinging, that's MrOlai middle name. He has NEVER engage in an intellectual discussion before on NL Islam forum.

TAQIYYAH @ work!

Empiree:
Well, I went back to your first post and read it again. The way it's worded indicates the man speaking is 2nd person singular referring to incident or event. But your last post is clear enough indicating direct order to sleep with animal. In that case it's wrong. That's my position unless otherwise.
That however, still does not in anyway make them less Muslims. We have muslims who are not shia but see nothing wrong being gay, see nothing wrong consuming alcohol and fornication etc.
In Saudi Arabia, they have crazy fatwa many muslims do not agree with. They have what they called "misyar" the so called "traveller's marriage" which many Muslims including Shia consider legalizing adultery or fornication. Does that make Saudi Ulama less muslims?. It does not make them less muslims. They only get punished for it. It does not warrant division.
If I was to go by same standard you used to polarize shia, on Saudi's 'misyar', they are simply as well guilty. Our understanding is if Allah makes something haram no one dares makes it halal. If anyone does that he becomes a kafir, isn't?. So "misyar" to some muslims is like legalizing adultery and fornication. Misyar is not sunnah. It's innovation. Bestiality is haram.
Below they tried to justify misyar yet they claim "mulkiyamin" no longer exist. Who is fooling who?http://www.islamawareness.net/Marriage/Misyar/fatwa_01.html
As far as I am concern, sunni/shia are jealous of each other. They have got problems that we can not solve ever. The former accuse the later of xzy while blamer herself does the very same thing.

May Allah(SWT) guide us all aright(Amin).

Empiree:
Besides, if i understood the quote you posted up there, (kindly re-read it again). He simple said it's forbiden and harmful. He didnt say it's lawful. Correct me if I am wrong.

@Empiree. We need to be sincere with ourselves. What the Shia scholar meant in that fatwa is that Bestiality is halal(permissible) but it is makrooh(disliked)! Don't twist the meaning Empiree please. The man said: "...many narrations are narrated that it is halal but makrooh (disliked)".

On unity in Islam, Shia still rain curses on the first three Caliphs is Abubakr, Umar and Uthman (RA Ajmain) during their ziyaratul ashura year in year out!

This is what Albaqir has to say about them:

AlBaqir:
We (Shia) have over many centuries after the demise of the holy prophet (saws) presented our 12 Imams as being successor of the holy prophet, it is alarming that Ahl Sunna wal Jama'a (past or present) have NEVER reach any conclusion as who were those 12 as many of their Khalifas were monsters, murderers, adulterers and devil incarnates.

Yet, we still want unity!
May Allah(SWT) in His mercy assist us(Amin).

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Empiree:
^^Brothers, i think we need to look past "sectarianism" and focus on the message. We first all must see ourselves as muslims. The reason you brothers dont take albaqir seriously is because he's Shia.

Really, our unity as Muslims is very important. However, we need to be very careful! We should not accommodate or encourage what is not part of Islam under the guise of unity especially those that would take a person out of Islam. I'm not really referring to this thread. I'm referring to dangerous Shi'a concepts.

Take for instance, On Bestiality, the Prophet(SAW) said:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill the animal along with him!" This shows the prohibition of Bestiality in Islam.

Just look at fatwa from Shia scholar:
"Sex with animals before the mission (Islam) was wide spread and many narrations are narrated that it is halal but makrooh (disliked). And on the compulsory precaution one should abandon this practice that may cause self harm. And you must admit this to the owner of the sheep and pay the owner.
Sex with animals Fatwa
al-Uzma Seyyid Ali al-Sistan

Can you imagine that! Subhanallah! This is just the tip of an iceberg about Shia ideology.

Unity is really very important in Islam. However, this should not be at the expense of the teachings of the Prophet (SAW).

Again, this is from the Prophet (SAW):

Mu'awiyah as-Sahmi reported: "I had some sheep which I kept between 'Uhud and Juwaniyyah with a slave-girl to look after them. One day, I went out to check on my sheep and discovered that a wolf had devoured one of them. Since I am just a human, (I became angry) and struck the girl.

Later on, I came to the Prophet sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam and reported to him the incident. He terrified me with the gravity of my action. I said, 'Messenger of Allah'! Shall I free her (as an expiation of my sin.) He said 'Call her over'. When I did, he asked her, 'Where is Allah?' She said, "Above the heavens.

Then he asked her, 'Who am I?' She said, 'The Messenger of Allah sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam'. Thereupon, the Messenger of Allah sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam ordered me, 'Free her. She is a believer . ' " [Imam Muslim, Abu Dawud, and others]

The above hadith, according to Shaykh Kahlil al-Harras, is a luminous proof of the Loftiness of Allah, the Exalted. Here is a man who wronged his female slave by striking her, and wanted to expiate his sin by giving her freedom in return. The Prophet sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam chose one particular question, Where is Allah?' Then the slave girl gave him the correct answer, Above the heaven'. The Prophet sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam declared her to be a believer. Does not the above the hadith stand as a solid proof that Allah is above the heaven? Doubtlessly, that slave girl, the shepherdess, knew her Rabb more than those ignorantly claim that Allah is everywhere!

This is what Ahlus-sunna wal jama'a say on "Where is Allah?" :

All of the salaf including the four imams are in agreement that Allah is above the heavens outside of the creation.

Abu Bakr: Abdullah Ibn Umar reported: “When the Messenger of Allah was taken (passed away). Abu Bakr entered and kissed his forehead and said: “May my father and mother be sacrificed on you! You were good in life and in death.” Then he remarked: “He who worshiped Muhammad, then Muhammad is dead. (But) he, who worships Allah, then Allah is above the sky, He lives and does not die.” Reported by ad-Daarimee in ar-Radd ‘alal Jahmiyyah, with a hasan (good) isnad (chain of narration).

Ibn Taymiyyah writes, ‘the early generations of Muslims and their Imams were in complete and unanimous agreement that the Lord is separate and distinct from His creation (as he is above the heavens outside the creation).’ Al-Furqaan bayna Awliya ar-Rahmaan wa-Awliya ash-Shaytaan’ by Shaikh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah on p.111.

Imam Adh-Dhahabee collected more than two hundred sayings of the early scholars affirming that Allah is above the heavens outside of the creation in his book al-’Uluw. This comment is in the book ‘The Ever-Merciful Istiwa Over the Throne’ by Shaikh Abdullah as-Sabt who deals with this subject in details.

Al-Balakhee reported that he asked Abu Haneefah’s opinion about a person who says that he does not know whether his Lord is in the Heavens or on earth? Imam Abu Haneefah replied: “He has disbelieved, for Allah says: ‘The Most Merciful is above the Throne’ (Soorah Taahaa:5) and His Throne is above His Seven Heavens.” Al-Balakhee then asked: “What if he said that Allah is above the Throne, but he does not know whether the Throne is in the Heavens or on earth? Imam Abu Haneefah replied: “He has disbelieved because he has denied that Allah is above the Heavens and whoever denies that He is above the Heavens, has disbelieved.” Recorded by Ibn Abil-Izz al-Hanafee in the explanation of ‘Al-Aqeedah at-Tahawiyah (p. 288)’

Imam Malik (d.179H): Abdullah Ibn Naafi reported that Malik Ibn Anas said: “Allah is above the sky and His Knowledge is in every place, not being absent from anything.” Reported by Abdullah Ibn Ahmad in As-Sunnah (p.5), Aboo Dawood in al-Masaa’il (p.263), Al-Aajuree in ash-Sharee’ah (p. 289) and al-Laalikaa’ee (1/92/2).

Abdullah Ibn Mubarak (d. 181H): Alee Ibn al-Hasan Ibn Shaqeeq reports, I asked Abdullah Ibn al-Mubarak: “How are we to know our Lord?” He replied: “He is above the seventh Heaven above His Throne. We do not say as the Jahmiyyah [Jahmiyyah are the followers of Jahm Ibn Safwan, who was the first one to publicly declare the denial of Allah’s Attributes. He was killed and crucified by Khalid Ibn Abdullah Al-Khusari, Prince of Iraq. This took place during the era of the Tabioon, (students of the Companion). All the scholars at his time called him a Kafir on account of plainly denying the Attributes of Allah] say, He is here on the earth.” This was mentioned to Ahmad Ibn Hambal, he stated: “That is how it is with us (i.e. how we believe).” Reported by ad-Daarimee in ar-Radd ‘alal-Mareesee (p.24 and 103) and ar-Radd ‘alal-Jahmiyyah (p. 50) and Abdullaah Ibn Ahmad in as-Sunnah (p.7, 25, 35 and 72).

Imam Muhammad Ibn Idrees ash-Shafi’ee (d. 204H): Abu Thawr and Abu Shuaib both reported that ash-Shafi’ee said: “The saying which I found and hold regarding the Sunnah, those which I have seen Sufyan, Malik and others believing in are; ‘the testification, ‘None has the right to be worshiped but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah’, Allah is above His Throne over the Heavens, He draws near to His creation as He wishes and descends to the lowest Heaven as He wishes….” Mukhtasar al-’Uluww (l96)

Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (d. 241H): It was said to Abu Abdullah (Imam Ahmad): “Allah is above the seventh Heaven, over His Throne, separate from His creation. His Power and Knowledge are in every place.” He said, “Yes, He is above the Throne and His Knowledge is in every place.” Reported by al-Khallaal in al-Mukhtasar.

In conclusion Allah is above the heavens separate and distinct from his creation. Therefore the idea that Allah is not above the heavens is not based upon the view of the four imams or any of the salaf. In fact Imam Abu Haneefah said: “…whoever denies that He (Allah) is above the Heavens has disbelieved.” recorded by Ibn Abil-Izz al-Hanafee in the explanation of ‘Al-Aqeedah at-Tahawiyah (p. 288)’.
http://ahlusunnahwaljamaah.com/tag/where-is-allah/

Empiree:
As for Mrolai, you pretty much did not refute albaqir because website link you provided does not work. It's not available even though they are identical. Albaqir's link works. Yours doesnt. How then you want to convince us that his website is bogus?. So far you brought no convincing evidence. Again, i read everything in the link provided by Albaqir. Guys, dont be lazy. Go through it and give your thought.

This is the website of Ahlus-sunna wal jama'a: http://ahlusunnahwaljamaah.com/

AlBaqir:
Sino, vedaxcool, Aareonakakanfo, Fundamentalist, dekatrons, barbstee and ofcourse Empiree. I invite you to read how Salafiyyun's deceptions and falsifications is exposed on the issue "Where Is Allah?" Below is a web-page of an Ahlu Sunnah.
http://www.ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=53

Shia and their Taqiyya! May Allah(SWT) in His mercy purify their hearts. May He(SWT) guide them to the true teachings of the Prophet(SAW). May Allah(SWT) guide the Muslims all over the world from their fitnah (Amin).

Sino, vedaxcool, Aareonakakanfo, Fundamentalist, Empiree and other Muslims out there, don't mind the website Albaqir presented! The website www.ahlus-sunna.com is actually a Shia website camouflaging as Ahlus-sunnah wal jama'a website! Can you imagine that! To know the truth about this, just glance through the contents of the website! That is the extent Shia can go to mislead unsuspecting muslims into Shi'ism!

Ahlus-sunnah wal jama'a have their separate website. It is not www.ahlus-sunna.com! So, let's be careful about what we read online especially the so-called Islamic websites! May Allah(SWT) continue to guide us aright(Amin).

johnydon22:
Supported!!!.. . . Very happy to hear this one
Hope you will show your stance against radical islam, honor killings, stoning of women as done by many muslims because that evidently is jungle justice.

Yes, of course! Extremism is one of the problems facing Islam. This is what we have everywhere now like the cases of Boko Haram, ISIS, etc.

johnydon22:
Now i am supposed to start discussing mythologies with you?
Why didn't God strike muhammed down for consorting with a 9year old, Oh i forgot God is ok with that but is interested in the actions of two adults.
Will be waiting for God to pour down burning sulfur on America and other countries that supports gay rights like he did in the Lot myth .

@johnydon22. Honestly, the least you can do to help gays is to speak against homosexuality. Perhaps, some of them might have a rethink, come back to their senses and live normal life like every other normal person. As a matter of fact, majority of them are not happy with their lives! So, please, if you cannot help them in that little that way, then, don't compound their problems by encouraging them.

Empiree:
I dont support jungle justice. I support judicial process.

10000000000000000 likes!

Jungle Justice is a crime on its own. Only judicial processes would bring sanity to the society.

johnydon22:

Homosexuality hurts no one...
Face the problems that are of imminent threat to man, stop poke nosing into who someone choose to sleep with that doesn't concern, hurt or kill anyone

If homosexuality hurts or kills no one, why did God destroy homosexuals of period of Lot?

johnydon22:

Talk about societal problems you talk about; Radical islam that has poured untold terror and violence on the world, you talk about honour killings, you talk about beheading people with different religions, you talk about wars and conflicts, you talk about ethnic and religious bigotry and fanatism.
Isn't it hypocritical that you are here ignoring all these problems above that are of imminent threat to the well being of the planet but is only concerned with what two adults do in their bedrooms

Societal problems whether small or big would always remain societal problems. Religious fanaticism you mentioned is one. Homosexuality is also a societal problem. We should all work collectively to get rid of them in order to have healthy and conducive society. You should not be supporting one and condemning others.

johnydon22:

Now take a look at this. . Because numerous heterosexual individuals don't indulge in anal sex?
Anal sex is found also in heterosexual individuals...

That is why Anal Sex is a sin too among heterosexual couples as clearly stated in the Qur'an.

johnydon22:


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And heterosexual sex is excluded from diseases?[/color]

In the faeces in the rectum/anus where the gays insert their anaconda, their are millions of deadly microbes and macrobes which find their ways through the urethra in the anaconda into the man! Have you ever thought of this?

This same homo who has contracted disease through this evil act would still have sex with another persons thereby transmitting/spreading diseases on the land! Some of them still have sex with womem , though they claim to be gays. Remember, diseases are easily transmitted to women!

For the heterosexual sex i e man-woman sex, honeypot is naturally designed to accommodate anaconda anytime any day. No deadly microbes or macrobes in v*gina that would threaten p*nis under normal condition. In fact, STI in heterosexual sex results primarily from sexual immoralities.

So, homosexuality is a serious problem to the society at large!

johnydon22:

First you are still dodging the question,
More about homosexuality here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
In case you are also thinking homosexuality is a human thing, here help yourself read about homosexual behaviours in other animals https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
In fact let me also throw in a video of homosexual lions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7rUMVMJMHg&feature=youtube_gdata_player


And heterosexual sex is excluded from diseases? We all know diseases affect every aspect of sexual orientation be it heterosexual or homosexual.
You are still finding cheap defence to cover up your unfounded dabble into the sexual choice of others literally trying to force down your own idea of decency on others because so says your religion at the same still do not want to pay mind to things that are of great threat to the world e.g: Radical Islam.
Please let me remind you again, you are still avoiding the question i asked this is the fourth time i am going to repeat it.
Is it right to kill two consenting adults males or two adult females because they choose to have sex with themselves?

It's so unfortunate you are defending homosexuality! I'm quite sure you know what the Bible and Qur'an say about it.

For the homosexuality among animals, you cannot use that as a form of defence for homosexuality in humans. Animals are different from humans in so many aspects. God created them differently. Animals don't have any account to give on Judgement Day in the hereafter. Take for instance, a typical baby he-goat would always have sex with its mother. Can you use that to justify a man trying to have sex with his mother?

Most animals have sex with one another in public places. Can you also use that to justify a man having sex with a woman on the street in broad day light? And many more...

So, we are humans. God Almighty in His wisdom has created us for a purpose. He has given us rules on what we should do and what we should not to and we shall be accountable to Him.

Empiree:
Lies. ...no one born Gay. There is absolutely no proof for such a silly thing. Those that promote homosexual are only trying hard to proof it's natural. No scientific evidence to back their claim.
It's biggest implication so far is strange disease that emerged from it.

@Empiree. Nice one!

johnydon22:

But there are others born gay...

@johnydon22. Get it right. Nobody is born a gay. God Almighty in His wisdom is not a God of confusion. He would not destroy the people of Lot for Homosexuality and yet still make some people to be born gay. That gays are born gay is an alibi being put forth homosexuals so that they would be allowed to perpetrate their homosexuality.

Nobody is born gay. This is an established fact! If you are initiated into homosexuality today, it's just a matter of time that you'll see it as a normal way of life. This is in accordance with Newton's Law of Inertia. This is a fact!

We have Bestiality in the world today! People who are into Bestiality today are beginning to give the same excuse that they are born that way to have sex with dog, goat, chicken, horse, cow, etc! Similarly, if you are initiated into Bestiality today, it's just a matter of time that you'll see Bestiality as a normal way of life. This is also a fact!

So, Homosexuality is a sin against God Almighty! It is a sin against humanity! Honestly, I pity those who are involved. I pray God Almighty come to their aid to be able to desist from such evil act. It's very pathetic!

The fact that a Muslim country keeps silent on homosexuality or bestiality does not make either of them permissible. In Islam, the punishment for homosexuality or bestiality is Death!

Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot(Homosexuality), execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill the animal along with him!"

This is the position of Islam!

ravensckar:
Now you've spoken as a man should. Sometimes, little issues like these can spiral out of control especially if tempers are flaring. But all the same, I appreciate your thoughtfulness on this.
No mind her jare, she's my very good friend at school. She hardly loose her cool online, so I wonder what might have come over her tonight. Maybe she feels she's being oppressed and so, she declared 'aluta'. Lolz!
Offend me ke? Issues like these would always pop up at times, but our ability to speedily resolve it and move on will keep us together. Kudos Sir, you've got my respect for this!
And I'm promising you, she wouldn't post anything inciting on this issue again....

Thanks so much. I really appreciate your concern.

Evathyst:
is that all the insults you've got in your dictionary of abuses?
You can try harder! You this st*pid sl*g of a thousand father! You checked my pix right, how about rechecking your own so that your HBP can increase in ten folds. Imbec*le!

Pele
I think you've had enough dosage of you "YEYE LESSON NOTES" tonight. Next time, you'll think twice before badmouthing others' sources of livelihood!
Eranko!

ravensckar:
Haaa! Mr Olai, isn't this too much? Or two wrongs have started making a right. If every discerning mind is blaming Evathyst for what is happening here tonight, the truth is you people's responses haven't been any better.
Nobody has a monopoly of insult just as she had correctly opined. But to even think this statement is coming from a supposed grown up man is disheartening. Our professional teachers, I hail una o!

@ravensckar. Just imagine her calling NCE Lesson Notes "YEYE LESSON NOTES"! This is a serious crime if you don't know! The Lesson Notes upon which the livelihood of some depends!

You finished from O.A.U. yourself. O.A.U. graduates are well trained and well cultured just like you've always shown high level of decorum. I doubt it if that girl is from O.A.U.

Please ravensckar, don't blame me and others for our responses. According to Isaac Newton's 3rd Law of Motion, "To every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction". That is the scenario here.

Remember too in O.A.U.'s anthem:
"...Conscious, Vigilance, Progressive,
...Aluta Against All Oppressions..."

I'm very sorry If I've offended you.

Evathyst:
Who's this micro-organism? Have you ever seen me insult anyone on this forum before today? Please post evidence!
It has been long that nitwits like these have invaded this thread, raining abuses at will. Bullying people into accepting their mendacious assertions. I just decided I had to serve them a dose of their medicine today. If truly your brain hasn't become dysfunctional, you could trace this whole issue back to the previous pages to see who started the insult.
Mrs Moraliser! Please, spare me any of your preaching. So, she didn't consider her age or motherly status before posting gibberish abi? See, I'll just dismiss this your first post with the wave of my hand because as far as I'm concerned, you're merely grandstanding.
Try quoting me again and I wouldn't spare you!

Sorry, miss macro-organism! You're a disgrace to your family! Just look at the useless picture of yourself in your profile. It shows it all. A responsible lady doesn't look like that! It seems you are into prostitution with that pix! Right? Oloshi! Ashewo!

kendraloops:
Evathyst, I must confess the way you argue is very rude!! must you use insults to drive home your point? thank God you've left the teaching profession as you said cos I wonder at the kind of teacher you must have been. I wanted to keep quiet all these while but where you referred to someone you don't even know as a frustrated baboon just got to me. you don't know if she's way older than you, has kids or something of the sort.
you can reply with another insult, I won't be surprised as that's your trademark.

She is obviously noting but a pollution to teaching profession!

Kazrem:
It's not hard to know where and how a girl like was brought up. I neither moved nor pained by your words. Every man represents the home he comes from. Hogwash!

True talk! She is obviously noting but a pollution to teaching profession!

Evathyst:
*Yinmu*
Here's another NCE sympathiser! Do you even understand the crux of the matter at all? Or you simply have a problem with comprehension! For your information, I didn't start the name-calling, your henchmen did. Scroll up and you'll see all the names they dished out at me.
Why should the one who stepped on a millipede cry blue murder even when the millipede has not raised it's voice in protest? For a sympathiser like you, inherently not gifted with a faculty of discernment. Why should I take your insults personally?
Just like the germans would say 'Est ist ein Ziel' meaning this is just the beginning.

You lack home training! Your responses so far on the issue show the kind of teacher you are to your students! Shameless bitch!

Evathyst:
Apology my foot! Try to read from previous pages so as to understand the crux of the matter. But to demand an apology from me is not only hypocritical but an height of partisanship.
Sir, you've been noticed. So, you can please swerve left. I'm here today to finish all those NCE holders who call themselves professional teachers.

Your responses so far on this issue show how arrogant, foolish and shameless you are! To think that you are better than others simply because of your B.Ed. B.Ed from O.A.U. So?

I must tell you! You are a disgrace to teachers! You are a disgrace and abuse to prestigious O.A.U.!
Animal!