Let them save the wife and daughter, he made a mistake but his family should not suffer for it ooooooo.

Ochek:

How come them are telling us today that Ebola was part of consideration for calling off the strike? Please maintain a stand.

Kai!!!!!, this is licking vomitus.

Allied health professions are health care professions distinct from nursing, medicine, and pharmacy.[1] One source reported allied health professionals making up 60 percent of the total health workforce.[2] They work in health care teams to make the health care system function by providing a range of diagnostic, technical, therapeutic and direct patient care and support services that are critical to the other health professionals they work with and the patients they serve.


@ the pathologist, this is not even the argument the guy is making, why bring it here.?
In your college of medicine, how many departments do you have?
Why are doctors not called physicians but doctors ?

What do you want be....a nurse or a technician ?

cbrass:

Am confused pls brake it down. Some of us here no little about biology

okay, when a baby is suckling on the breast, the mouth forms a vacuum on the darken area surrounding the nipppple so the milk can be ejected adequately from the breast while during sensual arousal, the nipppple is the primary to focus to elicit pleasure as it is sensitive to touch. If a baby suckle on the nipppple instead of being positioned properly it will elicit discomfort and pain instead of arousal and pleasure.

Mishydoo: Of course...any suckling action on d nipp.les shld create the same sensual response....tho almost always inhibited by reason in d case of brstfeeding.

The sensation differs because the baby is creating a vacuum with its mouth on the areola to suckle the milk from the ampulla while in sensual suck the focus is often on the nipple with the target being the sensitive nerve endings there.

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NMA Sunday Sermon with Fejiro Oliver; What NMA Must Do ASAP
Date Posted: 25/Aug/2014
I wanted to share something very interesting until a blogger friend of man with
AbujaCabMan directed me to his site to see something interesting. As if we share
same brains, I had wanted to give the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) similar advise
on how to win when they embark on strike next time. After all, they are one of my most
trusted ally who have brought me this far and a piece of advise for them should not be
out of place.
I have decided to share today sermon from a fellow 'preacher' and I hope we all enjoy it.
First before this writer is accused of canvassing a point that is totally out of order, let
me state from the outset that the title of this work is a verbatim comment from the
National Labor Congress liason officer to the National Assembly
‘NMA may wish to join NLC/TUC at this point’
When the handwriting on the wall showed that the strike by medical doctors in Nigeria
will definitely be called off, I drove to the NLC laison officers house and was visibly
bothered. He wondered why I had such a pensive look on my face. I explained that I’m
doing an investigative reportage on why the doctors are about to call off their strike. He
laughed, reclined in his chair and said,
‘My boy, what the doctors need to understand is that the other health workers have been
planning their assault for over 10years. He was part of the discussions in which they
were advised to form strategic partnerships with one another. Which he heard eventually
led to the birth of JOHESU. Well, he was also part of conversations in which some NMA
members were favorably disposed to joining NLC/TUC on the understanding that some
doctor associations in UK are registered trade unions. But somewhere along the line,
NMA stuck with being a professional body and not a Trade Union for understandable
reasons. The only snag in that position from the labor perspective is that JOHESU can
get from NLC/TUC the sort of cover they get from time to time because they’re
members. ASUU got active cover from NLC leadership during their struggle. The public
statements by the NLC and TUC president threatening to shut down the work force in
Nigeria if government fails to comply with ASUU demands are all in the archives’
I took several deep breaths and wondered what exactly was stopping NMA from
collaborating more closely with the National Association of Nurses and Midwives. I
thought for a while and sought to understand what exactly was stopping the Nigerian
Medical Association from being a part of the Nigerian Labor Congress and Trade Union
Congress. I’ve asked several times in the course of investigating this write up but all I
hear is that its a no go area. I’m only a writer what do I know. All I do is investigate.
Investigations reveal that the NMA from this morning will need to re-calibrate urgently.
1. The NMA will need to review its constitution as a matter of pressing and urgent
necessity, a process that must start at the next Annual general meeting and Delegates
Conference.
2. The NMA will need to come up with a 5 year strategic plan as a matter of urgency.
There’s a need to be aware that other health groups have strategic plans they’re
currently working with.
3. The NMA will need to work more closely with the National Association of Nurses and
Midwives
4. The NMA will need to tinker with the idea of closer collaboration with NLC/TUC if not
out rightly joining them. Remember this, as formidable as we think ASUU is, it is a
member of NLC.
Well, the Nigerian Masses are glad to have their doctors back no doubt. The other health
workers are glad that those trained to doctor will come and take their rightful place. The
Federal Government is glad that their strong arm tactics has worked yet again. But I’m
sure no doctor is happy at this turn of events.
Happy or not, re-calibrate and re-strategize now, NMA. There’s something they say
about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Can’t
remember now.
May the parliament now rise to debate on this.
Follow me on twitter @fejirooliver86

No, ....well except if she is watching pornnno while breastfeeding.

phantom:

they can go to hell. Bunch of fools. The strike cost me 180,000 i did not budget for. My wife delivered thru CS after the nurses in general hospital referred us to private hospital run by the same set of doctors in surgery department of the general hospital. If at all the delivery will be thru operation in a general hospital, it cant be more than 60k while i paid 180k at a private hospital. Four days after, they are calling off the strike, damn you. silly set of human being.



i guess you didint see the bolded. i dont pity him.when nigerians are quick to point fingers at doctors but wont call on their govt to do the right thing.
nigerians should get ready to pay more BECAUSE they are watching while our public health system collapses.

Grief and anger has a way of being quelled with tender therapeutic communication.
He is venting and doctors are at the receiving end due to their strike....so don't expect him not to be up in arms here against doctors.
So I suggest you sheath your sword.

phantom:

you are very st.upid. look at the way you started your own post.
you for leave your wife na. why you carry am go private hospital? why not a chemist?

typical Nigerian! you abuse a doctor but when sh*t hits the fan,you run to a doctor.

What's wrong with you phantom? What is it?
Somebody ...or rather a patient relative is lamenting and this is the best you can come out with, due to recent event doctors have been portrayed in bad light and you are still fueling it....damn it. You are overstepping , get yourself back to order.


Tenry, sorry about what happened, hope mother and baby are recuperating accordingly.

You are obsessed and probably jobless....come on since 2009. Are you for real, girl?
The guy is tired and needs a break.

phantom: but on a serious note,it is intact the nurses who should be specialising like doctors.
if you ask me,their post basic programme hasnt gathered enough clout yet.
they have a WAC of nursing but they don't seem to be serious honestly.

pharmacists too should be able to specialise in a different postgraduate program ACCORDING TO HOW THEY DEEM FIT.

we should have cardiovascular pharmacists,nephrology Pharm,Hiv pharm....e.t.c

for the lab guys, what do they need specialising for? they are already in one area of medicine.

Don't conclude that nurses are not serious about the West African college of nursing please . We have a lot of fellows from the said college, waiting on the national council of establishment utilization and placement.

phantom:

meanwhile leave us dem no go gree
those days wey person dey do house job,rehab,physio and lab chicks no gree person rest.

I come back home after a hard days work,open my room,only to see a rehab chick on my bed with NOTHING ON BUT A SMILE
I blast paramedical chicks sotey I come dey run....
e be like make their guys use gun shoot all house officers then......good 'ol days when a chick would f****k you just because of the DR in front of your name while lab and physio boys go dey blow salary on top woman.


n/b:I am married now with a lovely family.I don't do those things anymore

This post just describe you in detail, it is a shame if really a senior Reg is depicting this type of vulgar, uncouth , delusional and uncultured mindset in a public forum.
I shake my head for your kind which are really repulsive.

gbosaa:


Tufia...Try what??.. ..

Come on , don't sound so shocked. He wants the wife to want it but he got to try it first.

On your knees fellas.

Armadeo, a question was asked and an answer needed, that is what nairaland is here for. No sentiments attached, you answer what you know and move on.

armadeo:

OK I think I get the post basic. So for example if you want to do cardio you apply to the school, if admitted you go for lectures and at the same time work as a nurse in the cardio dept.

Your work in cardio for example is it sanctioned fully by the hospital I.e is a post basic nurse left alone to run a shift? Or handle the theater or run a clinic alone at the end of say 1 yr?

You work under the supervision of a superior officer.

armadeo:

Again I ask please excuse me, at what point is it neccesary to attend post basic training.

I know of run + mid and bnsc. What's post basic about? Is it what makes nurses specialty in theater, wars, cardio, ear, anaesthesia etc.

Yes, after graduating with either RN or BNSC or both,..

Post basic clinical nursing specialties are midwifery, cardiothoracic, intensive care or critical care, ear nose and throat, ophthalmic, burns and plastic, orthopaedic, anaesthesia, perioperative, public health, psychiatry,peadiatrics to mentioned but a few.

What's the point of the strike ......? ......if it is only to get 2 months arrears and allow your junior members to be sacked? Whatever happened to the 24 demands

armadeo:

Please excuse my ignorance on this issue.

A nurse who goes for post basic training is or can be an RN + midwifery + BNSc.

This training is strictly on an academic note with clinical exposure where due to experience the nurses are used as full staff.

Now some nurses carry out this program with study leave due to its nature while others may follow up directly without pay.

We also have residents who aren't paid by the govt who are self sponsored or on study leave.


I think you case was one of supranumerary on a personal sponsorship. I have one question did you pay school fees and write exams in school or were you required to be in a hospital and after some training sit for exams.

Yea , I paid my school fees and write exams in between the training then thereafter a final qualifying exam at the end of the program. Most of the post basic schools are attached to a teaching hospital, so It won't be a bad idea if these post basic nursing students are placed on a salary till graduation.

[quote author=joker5180] i can't see that happening in my area, health workers have no difficulty getting a job[/quot/) I am not talking about graduates .....I am referring to nurses who went back to post basic schools.

armadeo:

Let me get this straight while training as post basic were u employed by the govt or you were in post basic nursing school.

The duration 2yrs.

Were you taking shifts with those in the ward or were u just used by your superiors because if your previous exposure and training.

What I am asking is as a post basic candidate are you required to work or be trained?

There is a thin line between work and train when you are in post basic school. As part of the training sometimes we are required to take charge of the ward.
My course requires constant presence in the ward and theatre, it is intensive. I was not employed by the government but our basic RN was used, duty rosters are always created for student nurses whether post basic or not for the period of clinical posting experience .
It is a lot of trouble though without a penny in your pocket.

joker5180: had many friends who recieved salary while on post basic training ( in-service)

Yea, some are already working and took study leave with pay especially the government staff while a greater percentage of us are green in the ear nurses without any financial support except family help.

She should buy a Love Machine and try it on the hubby, if he likes an.....all sezx.

armadeo:


I missed the sarcasm

What does financial stability means aren't you already financially stable. Aren't you being paid salary as if now.
Please explain.

When I was training for my post basic certificate, I wasn't financially okay because I was not paid. Since I already have RN ,RM and BNSC I was expected to work when posted to the ward likewise others without restrictions for 2 years of the training. It is frustrating I tell you.

Won't be surprised if they sell out the doctors too. ...5% workers though essential but Nigerian government is unpredictable.

Let's not point fingers yet, Chukwu sold out NARD and how many consultants do we have that can't be lay off . Remember their salary is huge compared to the laboratory and pharmacy staff......Nigerian financial analysts will rather based their plans on the gains than on the services being provided.

Raymondenyi: wwhat is ur concern with what they earrn? How does it affect yu; I bbelieve u re 1 of d Johessu people!b!!
I believe this young man is deluded!!!

Why are you hiding the fact that HOs earn that much and have already resorted to calling names as usual?
The info is right.........between 170,000 and 200,000.

armadeo:


So you agree that nurses are already trained post basic. Good. Though they aren't residents.

I thought international best practices have already started residency training fir health workers but according to you this isn't so.

What perks do residents enjoy if I may ask
Nigeria

Are you asking about the perks? Please be real, come on.

Financial stability till you finish your programme will enhance the zeal that will be put in to learn and work while training knowing that you are appreciated by your government and not being used......as if others came for moonlight games.
No be only dokita waka come a beg.


US has taken precedent for nursing residency....
Emory, Vanderbilt, Penn's state, NYU to mentioned but a few for graduate nurses, there is also residency for nurse practitioners too.
My point about Nigerian residency is rhetorical and sarcastic.

armadeo: Residency.

Nurses already have subspecialty as midwifes, theater, surgical, went, eye, etc.

Lab science. I don't get what a resident in lab science would do.

Radiographers now here's a laugh. Let me guess residency in MRI angiography.

Please Oga op answer the guy above me.

Nurses have post basic schools were the aforementioned specialties are studied, it would be worthwhile since they are also being trained in the teaching hospital to receive the perks associated with residency too.
If Nigeria is going to set precedent in residency training of other essential health professionals, then so be it. It is time to set the pace if it is going to solve Nigerian health sector problems.
@Mastify, we all hit the labour market after graduation and whomever is lucky get employed first but the perks of studying and getting paid handsomely should be extended to all and sundry.

chimoz:
You got me wrong dear, in as much as I would want to be corrected when I make mistakes in practice, I wouldn't want it to be rude or for anybody to order me around because he is a consultant.

Nobody likes being ordered around,okay. Being a consultant won't usurp the roles of any other worker when a spelled out rules are enforced. These happens in a sane society, though but we're all getting there.

Edkay: In principle, no one should be prevented from reaching the zenith of his career. However, to prevent confusion in the course of treating patients (too many cooks syndrome) the limits of each professional group should be in black and white:
For example:doctors do not dispense medications. Lab scientist do not make diagnosis. Pharmacist do not write prescriptions. These are built in checks in health systems for patients safety and welfare.
Secondly, while, different groups may be involved in different aspects of patient care, only one should provide leadership and accept ultimate responsibilty for the patient (like a football team manager). This explains why no one considers suing lab scientists, Nurses, Pharmacists when patients are ill managed.

They are never sued? Says who? Get some education dude. Are they hiding under your apron string Or are they practicing medicine that the physician will answer for their sins. Do you know the meaning of a profession at all?
Nobody answers for my shortcomings as a professional nurse, but if you engage the services of an auxiliary you should be standing on your toes and always ready for subpeona from any quarter.

They are here, the killjoys.

Post your food and move on....damn.