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Asuokaa:
pls prove it cause i got from an SA site sir

From 2008 xenophobic attacks, the picture that made headlines during then and was even translated into a movie.

Asuokaa:
@msauza

i see something..its either you family fought in biafra and were given a devastating blow by the federal troops myb u lost some family members only God knws...state ur grievances here...make we knw cause all this point ur making is just baseless...cause have nvr seen online in my life or any where were somebody will be bringing out st0pid points that dont make sense against his country...

you will come to nigeria and start claiming no place like home...starts a business starts making money...i dare u to come to nigeria spend 5yrs here and ull the difference of been a free man and a black slave

I visited Naija many a times and the longest that I have been there was three months. One year is too long.

Asuokaa:
this your point is baseless.....there is a yoruba adage that says when the children of a house want to share their goods they send the strangers away when dealing with SA pls dont call urselve a nigerian or else you will be burnt like this dude

That picture is over seven years old.

If you want some of the recent ones I will give it to you.

Asuokaa:
we were brought together...well i dont blame you....go and read the history of nigeria..then ull knw how far we have come....even ur ibo tribe have come from a very far time...

unfortunately, 1914 stays and will not change. Nigeria as a political state and colony was established in 1914.

Asuokaa:
HOW OLD IS NIGERIA....JUST LET DO SOME ARITHMETICS

Long before 1500 much of modern-Nigeria was divided into states identified with contemporary ethnic groups. These early states included the Yoruba kingdoms, the Igbo Kingdom of Nri, the Benin Kingdom, the Hausa cities, and Nupe. Additionally numerous small states to the west and south of Lake Chad were absorbed or displaced in the course of the expansion of Kanem, which was centered to the northeast of Lake Chad. Bornu, initially the western province of Kanem, became independent in the late 14th century. Other states probably existed but the absence of archaeological data prevents accurate dating. In the south, the earliest Edo state was Igodomigodo which emerged in 900 AD. Despite its relatively small size geographically it is considered the cradle of Edo culture.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Nigeria_before_1500...


hope this helps us..if not sorry is ur case...YOU THINK AND POST LIKE AN "ENDANGERED SPECIES" haha...just imagine...dont want to use a strong language seriously....am sure you are a REFUGEE IN SA...they would soon remove that FEEDER they use to choke ur mouth....even an average ibo man will nvr talk down on nigeria....

The so called Nigeria as one country started in 1914 and that you cannot change.

Asuokaa:
wait u doing all this work for anoda man land...JUST CANT WAIT FOR DEM TO ATTACK YOU...

I was born and bred in South Africa by Nigerian father who is now a naturalized citizen of SA, arrived on the shores of this country with his family when he was just a young boy. He and siblings, some of whom were born in SA are no longer seen as foreigners because they are fluent in the local SA languages and their last born struggles a lot with Igbo.

agaugust:
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150 years history of combat and Nigerian army has NEVER LOST any war !

Best combat record in the world !

Boko Haram is our latest victim !

See that soldier in the photo below shouting ``Come on men ! ``
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BREOezfAJSU

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/guest-articles/nigeria-for-victory-the-story-of-nigerias-contribution-to-world-war-ii-efforts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_troops

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/independence/?blurb=635
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You are forgeting the very important thing that, Nigeria has never fought any war alone, home and abroad. Not even a single war they fought alone.

Asuokaa:
like ur slave ridden hut is 150 too...making nonsense of nothing...rubbish

SA is over 400 years old.

Asuokaa:
TRUE OR FALSE...SA BLACKS WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A SLAVE TO THEIR WHITE LORDS

The same man once said " keep your Britain and let me keep my Zimbabwe"

The message is clear, South Africans had it enough about foreigners who do not have proper documentation and continue to be used as drug peddlers. Their wrong part is to generalise innocent Africans at large as criminals and drug dealers. Moreover, to raise their hands and kill those innocent foreigners is indeed uncalled for and unfortunate. So, now South Africans want to keep their SA that was once free of drugs and scams.


It is however not a lie that many stranded African brothers in SA are being used to sell drugs to our young children. There is one Nigerian, that I have warned time without numbers to refrain from peddling drugs and sell it to school children. I live very close by the school and this man does not want to listen and does it with impunity. I told him that every dog has its own day.

I thank you.

Patchesagain:
First, your nation is not 150 years old.

Second, your nation has never fought anyone but under nourished rebels without any real equipment or training

NIGERIA is younger than ANC.

agaugust:
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@Asuokaa has another two sources contained in his own source which are NOT blogs.

Same way you Southies have been posting some sources claiming that Soviets fought in Angola. The guy has opened up a new issue and controversy on this topic and you cannot just dismiss his case, he has sources :




The fact that as many as 5,000 Nigerian troops fought in Angola around 1976-77 may be the most widely-unknown fact in the annals of Nigeria’s very long history of foreign military operations.

In the aftermath of January 1976 OAU summit where General Murtala Muhammed in his timeless “AFRICA HAS COME OF AGE” outing decisively swung the support of the OAU and Africa in favour of the MPLA regime, to the chagrin of their UNITA and FNLA competitors, the FMG backed up the new MPLA government with N13.5m(US$20m) and sent a squadron of MiG-17 jet fighters in support.

It has now emerged that as many as 5,000 Nigerian troops were deployed to Angola and that they saw action in various theatres across the then war-blighted country.

Writing in an article entitled “MOSCOW’S NEXT TARGET IN AFRICA;Paying the Price for Angola“, Robert Moss clearly indicates that ….

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“The Nigerians are said to be heavily involved in Angola. Western intelligence sources report that Nigerian troops were present at battalion strength when the MPLA and the Cubans pushed south last year. According to UNITA sources in Paris, the Nigerian strength has since been reinforced.

UNITA sources have tapes of radio intercepts showing that at least 5,000 Nigerian troops have been deployed in Angola. They are operating as far south as Mocamedes, and are also based in Lobito, Luanda and the eastern diamond mining town of Henrique de Carvalho.

UNITA claims to have intercepted radio communications in English (the common language between the Nigerians, the Cubans and the MPLA), in the Ibo, Hausa and Yoruba dialects, and in a form of pidgin Creole…..An intriguing sidelight is that UNITA also claims that a British shipping line played a key role in ferrying Nigerian troops and military supplies to Angola.

Nigeria, rich in oil and boasting an army of some 210,000 men, can clearly afford to be more than rhetorical in its backing for the guerrilla movements of southern Africa.” END OF QUOTE

Corroborating this report, the world-renowned photo-agency GETTY IMAGES in an archival photo dated 1 January 1977 actually bears a caption which read as follows;

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“Caption: 1977: An Angolan soldier crawls beneath barbed wire trenches during training. Dr Jonas Savimbi and his UNITA movement is doing well in its fight against the ruling MPLA (Movement For The Liberation Of Angola), and its Cuban allies. UNITA claims to control at least half of Angola. In addition to the Cuban forces, Western intelligence sources report that at least 5000 Nigerian troops are also deployed in Angola, on the side of the MPLA. (Photo by Keystone/Getty Images). Date created: 01 Jan 1977 “. END OF QUOTE


http://www.rhodesia.nl/moss4.htm

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/3336214/Hulton-Archive
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The above source was written in 1977 and the latter took information from the former. So those are just the same source.

Asuokaa:
Bros wait shey na we dey bear rhodesia...is that not a southern african name...kai...lol...if I open the wars we have fought bro...ull be amazed am from a military background...my dad was an officer before his death in febuary...brigadier general...there are some courses dey say dey go for..it is not course at all they went to fight...don't ever underestimate the Nigerian Military....SA r angry because in wars of the world there name no be reference point Lol...almost all the 21st century war has Nigeria in it...

Google is there to knw if am lying or not....

The writer (who appears to be a white man) mistaken the foreign soldiers in Angola after the withdrawal of SADF as Nigerian troops, merely because they spoke something that sound like pidgin. There is no any Nigerian source that support that statement.

agaugust:
Weaker forces like Namibian , Mozambican, and ANC freedom fighters were challenging South Africa then and SADF was importing mercenaries from all over the world to survive.

Those years were the days Nigerian navy had the most powerful warship in Africa and NAF had 100 jet fighter aircraft plus an army with 500 anti-aircraft missiles.

South Africa would have been roasted alive
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SA never used mercenaries in any war. You just only wish because your military has been recruiters of soldiers of fortune ever since its existence.

agaugust:
I said MiG-23 jet, are you so dumb?

The MiG-21 you shot down are old versions flown by Cuba.

Nigeria had in 1977, the latest MiG-21 'J' version with latest RP-22 radar and the latest K-13M missiles, then Nigerian pilots are far better than Cubans.

South Africa does not have 500,000 troops as you keep claiming on this thread.

Even giant Nigeria in Biafra war could not raise more than 250,000 troops. You keep telling lies about an imaginary SADF of half a million troops, you think your country is like China ?

10,000 Nigerian commandos landed on South African coast will lead to uprising by the millions of blacks in South Africa, we will give them ship loads of AK-47 and RPG, then you will see worse than Boko Haram inside South Africa, the apartheid government will be roasted at home, confusion, chaos, tears and blood on homesoil will bring down a government that 90% of the population hated so much.

You don't know how difficult it is to fight war on homesoil because South Africa has never experienced that advanced level of combat before

PHOTO : NNS OBUMA, 1970s NIGERIAN NAVY FRIGATE WITH SPECIAL ANTI-SUBMARINE CAPABILITIES
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How do you know that Nigerian pilots were better than Cuban pilots then if they were never engaged in any air combat? Nigeria used mercenary pilots throughout the Biafra war. Agaugust is dreaming as usual.

Asuokaa:
LOL...I wont answer you...google is your friend
see en there is nothing bad just saying o ye they did and they try that's all... do you think we need your commendation...i discovered SA folks have jealousy in their blood which will eat them up..keep on mussing abt...

https://beegeagle./2010/12/12/nigerias-best-kept-military-secret-5000-troops-fought-in-angolas-first-civil-war/
http://www.rhodesia.nl/moss4.htm
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/an-angolan-soldier-crawls-beneath-barbed-wire-trenches-news-photo/3336214


cab google lie

Let start with Angola first.

It appears to be lies which cannot be supported.

NaijaPikinGidi:
Kaj Larsen the VICE reporter on the ground in the frontlines has told a true story which I can validate as largely accurate based my realities on the ground! Fake Enugu man ... you are sitting a very long thin'

When you finally manage to guide yourself to victory against a lowly SELEKA and Rhino Poachers ... then we can talk.

The mercenaries from SA guided NA to victory, as known all over the world.


The history as it will come to be known for centuries.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/14/south-africas-ageing-white-mercenaries-who-helped-turn-tide-on-boko-haram

agaugust:
No air force has dared to challenge NAF, we fought border wars with Chad and Cameroon, yet they refused to fly their jets against us, so do we have to beg their air forces to take off from their airbases? NAF MiG-21 jets have invaded the airspaces of both neighbors and the enemy refused to challenge us air to air.

SAAF used 1970s Mirage F1 to sh.oot down 1950s MiG-21 jet of Cuba, but once the Cuban 1970s MiG-23 jet showed face in the war, South African pilots ran away finally after Cuba sh.ot down several SAAF Mirage F1 jets.

Means SAAF will abandon the air and park it's air superiority jets on the ground once an equal enemy appears in the air

Born cowards, die cowards....South African air force
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They don't challenge you because they see that your Air force is just a dead man walking. An AF that has never used BVR in its entire existence.

NaijaPikinGidi:
So why must NIGERIANS for any reason doubt the great exploits and world-record-setting super capabilities of our battle-grilled, tried and tested gallant NA and NAF?

Abeg learn to shoot straight!

Yet SA mercenaries have taught those gallant NA soldiers to carry guns, have groomed them and nurtured their bravery to fight. They have led and guide them to victory.

They deserve credit.

agaugust:
Nope, you feel free to contact the German embassy and ask for copy of the press release to prove your claims.....you are the ones saying there is a German embassy report, so show us.

Until then, both navies are suspect
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Patches is not Thomas and so the onus rest upon you to look out for the copy of the press release.

We as South Africans we trust that our navy couldn't have mistakenly have shot at those fishermen due to the familiarity of the area. They master the place like the palm of their hands.

agaugust:
Dude, this is why people don't believe whatever you Southies say, too many lies.

I have posted over 20 times on this forum that Cuban MiG-23 jets shot down South African Mirage jets and your air force ran away completely from the air war, thus Cuba won ! Cuban boys disgraced SAAF in the air war .

Cuban teenage pilots with zero war experience sh.ot down 5 South African aircraft including SAAF Mirage jets in air to air dogfights....

"On 27 September 1987 Cuban Major Albert Ley Rivas and Lieutenant Chao Gondin in MiG-23MLs engaged two Mirage F-1CZs of the SAAF's 3rd Squadron and fired three R-60 ("AA-8 Aphid" IR-homing) missiles. According to them, one F-1CZ exploded upon impact by an R-60 and crashed in enemy territory, and the other retired to Namibia after being struck by a second missile."

http://www.laahs.com/content/12-The-Cuban-MiGs/view/5

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Cuba lost many MIG 21&23s to the extend that soviet pilots helped them. Fact!!!

agaugust:
Yes, because the South African press is now blaming the Germans. The initial reports from inside South Africa blamed South Africa, I did not write those news reports, your own countrymen did it at News24 media. So it's now a tie on both navies.

The press was read with the heading SA Navy shot blah blah blah for the purpose of sensationalism to attract attention. However, when you read the details there was uncertainty as to who fired the shot and investigation was still to be conducted.

The press does not blame the Germans they merely publish the findings of the investigation.

SAN is very familiar with that place and they couldn't carelessly have shot at fishermen boats.

agaugust:
South Africa is known worldwide for telling lies at random.

I don't care about sentiment of "How will Germany feel is=f we lied against them". The Germans don't care about your struggle for image.

The news report is NOT from German embassy press release, it is news on Defenseweb, a private magazine claiming it was sourced from German embassy, yet we searched the whole internet and CANNOT find any such press report from German embassy.

Proof needed, until then....BOTH NAVIES ARE SUSPECT FOR THAT SH.OOTING INCIDENT !
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Investigation was conducted and it was found to be a German warship whose captain also never denied. Why do you find it hard to take the facts? Is it because you always wish SANDF to be at fault?

jln115:
"I need proof from German navy because South Africa could just be telling lies against the Germans on the navy shooting/misfire issue."
What?The German embassy not enough proof? Don't you think if we were telling lies and accusing the German Navy of a rather serious offence a country like Germany wouldnt be quick to deny and disprove those accusations?

The German embassy confirmed it, so we don't know what does agaugust want. kikikikiki…

agaugust:
Nope, you are the kid here.

Actually you are the resident liar and deceiver here.

I asked for MiG-23 but you posted MiG-21 jet, are they the same ?

SAAF completely withdrew from the air to air engagements because Cuba was s.hooting down South African Mirage jets like insecticide kills houseflies using the MNiG-23 jets.

South Africa LOST the air war and Cuba won ! Forever in history !
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All the records says Cuba lost in air combat.

agaugust:
SAAF shot down MiG-21 NOT MiG-23 jets, go back and read my posts. Even @Patches tried to play that game of deception here but I have forced him to admit the truth.

You see South Africa telling lies against Cuba, that's why I said I need proof from German navy because South Africa could just be telling lies against the Germans on the navy shooting/misfire issue.

When a country has the habit of telling lies so much, outsiders will always doubt what you say unless you have 100% proof.

You South Africans have built a permanent image of falsehood around yourselves. Crime does not pay. You lose all credibility
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Does it matter? those were only two dogfights that took place in Angola which SADF both won. MIG 23 were downed through ground fire.

The truth about Angola's air-to-air combat, not agaugust lies. So, it is clear that SADF won both of the only two dogfights in Angola.



http://www.laahs.com/content/12-The-Cuban-MiGs/view/4

Maj Johann Rankin who downed two Cuban MIGs with Mirage is on record. Agaugust has to note this.


http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/history/saaf/the-border-war

agaugust:
NAF had about over 30 MiG jets in Biafra war, the enemy saw our new air power and withdrew their air force.

There is NO RECORD of SAAF jet pilots sho.oting down any MiG-23 jet of Cuba in air to air combat, South Africa was d.emolished by Cuba in air to air combat

Your photo below is that of a 'UFO' unidentified flying object from the bush war.

We have proved this over and over again, lets stop dragging this forum backwards like kids
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Number of soviet pilots who perished in company of their MIGs in Angola.


http://www.mercenary-wars.net/angola/angola-86-89/russian-downed-pilots.html

Nigeria make use of SA mercenaries to defeat Boko Haram.



http://www.demanjo.com/news/world/807726/nigeria-taps-south-african-mercenaries-in-fight-against-boko-haram.html

agaugust:
The South African SADF 32 battalion primarily consisted of black Angolan soldiers and non-commissioned officers (NCOs) led by whites of the “old” RSA Empire officers and NCOs, although there was also a number of officers from countries, especially in its early stages, such as: the United Kingdom, Rhodesia, Portugal, United States, and Italy.

http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=510:32nd-battalion-rsa-south-africa&catid=108:rsa-southern-african-empire&Itemid=173

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SADF never used mercenaries, all people who fought in that war had direct interest and were never contractors.

The story about SA mercenaries in Nigeria in full details.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/14/south-africas-ageing-white-mercenaries-who-helped-turn-tide-on-boko-haram