₦airaland Forum

all4naija:
That is the new generation designers copying Nigerian mode of dressing. The fact that Zulus dress in Leopard skin proves my point. Let's be sincere with ourselves for once. Please....

You are lying, Zulus have been wearing that for ages. Being a Zulu myself I know that Leopard skin has always been worn by warriors throughout the history of the Zulu people.

Patchesagain:
Again you admit the Gripen is better

It can do ISTAR

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It can do target designation.

So, Gripen is the better platform.

Thank you.

Kick him hard on his butt Bozza. You got him.

mzilakazi:
You misunderstood him because he brought that gesture only on a sense that F7s and J7s are merely a copy of MIG-21s.




http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/f7ereviewpb_1.htm

They look very similar. MIG-21 of 1956.

SA special forces

Hamba Mzansi. You now have the best military satellite same as that of Egypt.

agaugust:
Quote where I said that.

I didn't even bother to talk about density of air at high altitude, all I said was and is that the snow in the photos tell you that you cold air on Himalayas mountain and cold air is heavier than hot air, I proved that with a source that gave example of golf ball shot that travels same parabolic movement like artillery shell, the golf ball is slowed down by heavy air on a cold day. Simple physics your Soweto brain will never know until I told you today.

Now the Indian army video NEVER said what you claimed, the army Bofors artillery officer said range is 41km at altitude, simple.

The officer did NOT define it as low altitude, medium altitude, or high altitude.....there are 3 levels of altitude and all of them above ground/sea level.

You are the one who personally claimed that the man meant high altitude because you want to twist the information to commit fraud as usual.

Also the army Captain did not specify what is at altitude, the gun or the target far away.

He just said "At altitude". Finish.

You are the one changing the analysis to high altitude, gun sitting on mountain top where there is snow and nobody can climb, then Bofors is heavy artillery too heavy for Indian helicopters to sling airlift.

@Patches, learn to accept defeat as you are a sunk ship already

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@Agaugust, to put this simple is that, altitude is any position above sea level. If then your gun is not at the perfect altitude you may not be able to achieve the range of 41km.

bidexiii:
SA army can only try . u can't compare the impact of NA in UN,AU,ECOWAS,AFRICON e.t.c gallant NAF soldier's has died for these course not " SA story for the Gods".

You forgot to also mention that we can't compare the impact of NA in cowardice and running away from a war zone. SA military has fought in WW1, WW2, Korean war, Bush war, UN, AU, SADC, etc. So, what do you want to say chief.

agaugust:
All the photos you showed are artillery guns on flat ground pointing to a mountain to fire into it.

It's your turn to prove your claim with sources, you failed, you are running away with excuses for your open failure.

@Patches is badly screwed trying to carry heavy artillery to mountain top, his helicopter rope/chain broke

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I think you should leave this topic because it makes you to embarrass yourselves even more. Hopefully, even your fellow countrymen are unimpressed by your level of immaturity and ignorance. Oga, my half brother please stop this embarrassment. Biko!!!

agaugust:
No, it is you South Africans who celebrate too early every time Boko Haram appears to hold a town, but your joy turns into sorrow in a few days when Nigerian army flushes the Bokos down the toilet and tear their Islamic Caliphate into pieces with bullets and shells.

Count your blessings disappointments name them one by one

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Your military is indeed playing Tom and Jerry. Today you flash Boko and tomorrow Boko flash your soldiers down the toilet in manner which is very disgraceful.


What we see is just comedy all the way.

agaugust:
Biggie Fool

Artillery shells don't go straight up in the air 10km high ! The barrel is not vertical, it is inclined only, fool

If gun range is 20km and it wastes 10km climbing up the sky like an aero plane, the gun loses half it's shell travel range and falls down wasted half way before reaching target.

Your quote applies only to aeroplanes that fly 10km to 20km altitude, not artillery shells that do not even reach the clouds in the sky !

South African education is 100 years behind Nigeria

Cold air is all over Himalayas mountains because of snow, I live in snowland and snow is all over my house and yard now as I write, the air is heavier than normal warm terrain and it creates friction/resistance to vehicles we drive through it.

South Africa imported science teachers from Nigeria, now I see why your country came begging us to help improve your brains

# Show us how cold mountain air increases artillery shell range when it actually slows down the shell
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Unfortunately, Nigerian teachers can only teach in government schools teaching disadvantaged students who could not afford private education.


Density of Air is dependant on several factors such as temperature and altitude. The higher the temperature the lesser the density of air. The higher the altitude the lesser the density of air. However, the opposite will result should we apply the low temperature and low altitude.

In short I remain appalled by some of the details that you have written above, since you failend to give proper explanation which is free of ambiguity. I do not believe you can even understand what you have written.

In conclusion, Nigerias education is a flop

EVarn:
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we're about to whip bafana bafana,@ around 6pm.tune on to sports tv,allsports,MY sports,GOtv sports,NTA or anywhere you watch sports,to watch the super eagles whip the banana bafana like a fulani man whips his cow{or like seleka whipped the SANDF},i hope they dont get violent {like the congolese} when they looooose.
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Seleka that got the beating is championed as heroes. By the way our boys have already qualified and we have nothing to worry about. We have already taken number one spot and the game is over.

agaugust:
Physics ? You ? South African ? Science ?

You boxed yourself into a corner, see all your posts with no source to proof, no citations.

The real physics is that cold air on high altitude is heavier and gives more resistance to the shell and slows it down, cold air is a dense harder matter for shells to travel through, your science is crappy from your South African crappy schools


"Cold air is much heavier than warm air and this is the basis for much of what we call weather. You may have heard that a baseball or a golf ball will travel further on a warm, humid day than it would on a cold, dry day. Since the warm, humid air is less dense, the ball travels through it with less friction."

http://www.weatherdudes.com/facts_display.php?fact_id=51


Nigerian education beats South African education again as usual, your SA schools are rated only for beautiful buildings

You are stuck in a position of defeat and self humiliation @Patches !


Show me a source that says Bofors artillery range increases by a whole extra 10km in a heavier cold mountain air !
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Nigerian education is nonsense and is inferior to SA.


Air at high altitudes is less dense, that is a simple geography from primary school education that an MBA graduate could not solve. My son would have answered that question without any difficulty. @Agaugust at high altitudes, oxygen (O2) which is heavier than other molecules of gases that make up composition of air is less. Hence, molecules of Oxygen are more concentrated on low altitudes making it easy for humans and animals to be in reach of it. So, mister Agau your Nigerian education is up to scratch, no wonder many Nigerians study abroad including here in SA.


http://www.altitude.org/why_less_oxygen.php

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/wdensity.htm

NIGERIAN MILITARY DETAINS FIVE COMMANDERS FOR FLEEING IN A WAR ZONE.

http://www.bellanaija.com/2014/11/03/nigerian-army-detains-5-military-commanders-for-fleeing-mubi-after-boko-haram-attack/

EVarn:
ignorant rat-eater,even if boko haram become as strong as ISIS,i doubt that they can conquer nigeria,its to big and diverse to conquer.in a time of war,even if you were to be weaker than your adversary{which we are absolutely not},you will be forced to improvise,develope and remodel yourself in order to match your for and gain absolute victory.just like what is happening to ISIS and now,the US is unleashing too much force on them,and sooner or later they will be force through sheer desperation to improvise,to rebuild themselves and replenish their arsenal in order to counter the US strength for strength,if things continue that way,nothing short of a nuclear bombardment will be capable of defeating them,and that will only stir more adversaries against the US.

You are underestimating Boko Haram.

EVarn:
jesus christ!,msauza you are a cow!,i said the estimated defence budget for years 2012-2014 amounted to $17billion,i didnt say we spent that amount at once!,what lies dont you tell?,and even if we spent $17billion at once we wouldnt go hungry{contrary to your unresearched post},in 2012 $20billion took flight from the excess crude revenue account,and nobody even so much as twitched in discomfort.

This is just a garbage. Nigeria's total revenues cannot even exceed $40billion. So, where will they get a whooping $17billion to feed their military if they do not venture into the risk of being bankrupt?


Your total revenues is just $23.48 billion.


http://www.geographic.org/world_fact_book_2013/nigeria/nigeria_economy.html

EVarn:
I_diot boy,when the americans ran out of vietnam,was that what they did best?,the allied forces and the arab nations have been bombing ISIS/ISIL since months ago,yet they still call the US's bluff.the NA hasnt fought terrorist before,in due time,boko haram will be defeated.

Yes, in due time, that's if it comes.

EVarn:
ah dievluit my love,i see that you've recovered,i promise to take it easy on you next time.

Do you even concur with what he suggests about Nigerian soldiers doing what they do best? Bwahahahaha!!!

Boko Haram reigns in Bama yet again.


http://allafrica.com/stories/201411030386.html

Casualty of hundreds of citizens in Mubi is blamed on soldiers who took to their heels.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201411020053.html

EVarn:
of course,you must be one of those saffers that come to nigeria to sell pork.please,explain what 'garbage' i posted,mr beever-toothed know-it-all,enlighten me.

Over 90% of your claims are just childish and not supported by sources. Please, think before you put anything on paper because we are not just a group of some kindergarten.

EVarn:
another pap-guzzler,dont you people ever learn?.what 'situation' are you yapping about?,our debt is less than $7 billion.between 2012 to 2014,we have an estimated defence budget of over $17 billion!,with one-third of it going into the defence ministry for arms purchase.if that amount of money{an even more} were being pumped into weapon production en mass,we would have been on the very verge of exporting fighter jets{and other weapons of war} by now.according to military-today magazine,the JF-17 thunder is manufactured in pakistan through a join cooperation with chinese defence firm chengdu.42 of them is valued at $800million,and 250 of them is estimated between $3-5 billion,imagine if we were producing them!

Nigeria's defence budget, over the years was just a mere $2 billion and only received the boost for the first time in history recently because of insurgency, when it went up to $5billion. Nigeria will die of hunger should they decide to allocate $17 billion to defence. No country in Africa can afford that.

agaugust:
Nigeria has been invited by Pakistan to be Joint-Venture Develpment partner for the JF-17 Thunder in 2012, the jets block II version which NAF is interested in, just came out of factory production line few months ago. My story is very logical, your own thinking is incoherent and deranged.

NAF is interested in copying our navy that now builds modern stealth warships in Nigeria. The Pakis want some hundreds of millions of dollars for technology transfer on JF-17 Thunder to Nigeria.

Nigeria just pumped $2 Billion into new weapons in the last 4 months and more to come, Nigeria has no financial problem, our foreign debt is about $6 Billion while South Africa's foreign debt is about $40 Billion, you Soweto mugus are the ones broke and living beyond your means, surviving and shining gleefully on borrowed $40 billion dollars from your European white masters in EU, I see a rope of debt tied to Pretoria's thin neck and gets tighter by the day.


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Everything is about secrecy even where is unneccessary. This is garbage!!!!

EVarn:
another round of non_sense coming from a half-backed school drop-out.who's talking about exporting the JF-17?,i'm simply talking about manufacturing them for our own use,we can later then use the skills and tech in making our own models and then through international partnership,proceed to begin exporting our own jets.fool,we dont have skills and infrastructure?,goes to show what you know.we cant afford hundreds of them?,250 JF-17=$5billion,so in your mind we cant afford $5billion?,when we are building agro-plantations of over $7billion?,seriously,try making sense.

I don't believe that you can even understand the garbage that you have written above.

agaugust:
You only trap yourself not me. This same topic was discussed few months back and I am tired of repitition.

Indian officer said 31km range with ordinary HE, so what is the Base Bleed range? Always longer anywhere anytime.

At altitude means target is on a mountain you can see from 42km away so you can target it.

Do you think the artillery gun itself climbs to mountain top? Show me where an army today has towed a Howitzer up to mountain top altitude using the wings of an angel.

Like I said, I am out, tired of repeating old arguments and tired of your repitition of same old lies, like you always say Nigeria has no Bofors FH-77B guns, you will soon dispute it again next month despite SIPRI proof that we have it...

Bye, have fun with yourself
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Eish!!! Baba, your story is incoherent. It differs to a large extent with what the man says on the video. Meanwhile, G5 and G6 remain the best howitzers in the world, not comparable to anything in the world indeed.

NIGERIAN TROOPS ON THEIR HEELS AGAIN AS USSUAL, LEAVING SOPHISTICATED WEAPONS IN THE HANDS OF INSURGENTS.


http://saharareporters.com/2014/10/30/nigerian-defense-headquarters-orders-fleeing-soldiers-retake-mubi-boko-haram

agaugust:
LOL, Game On

Deagel website is known for posting wrong data, it says Nigeria has 12 MBB 339 CD the 4th generation jet upgrade...

"In July 2006, Alenia Aermacchi and the Nigerian Ministry of Defense signed a maintenance and avionics upgrade contract on behalf of 12 MB-339A aircraft. The contract was valued at $84 million and will see the Nigerian airplanes upgraded in two six-aircraft batches."

http://www.deagel.com/Trainers-and-Light-Attack-Aircraft/MB-339A_a000696001.aspx

The final authority is the British army that uses the missile, Deagel is not the army that uses them and has none of the missiles, the missile owners, the British that sold it to you say Starstreak I has max ceiling 1km....

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

Do you see the photo below from my source? The copyright says 2014 Crown Copyright, means the Queen of England, British government final authority, the Royal crown, approves the content of the website of the British National army as authentic and factual.

So your British masters are telling the whole world that the Starstreak I missile they built and sold to South Africa has maximum ceiling of 1,000 meters = 1km only.

Worst missile in Africa

SANDF has the worst air defense in Africa, Togo republic will mass R.ape soweto army with Alpha jets

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DENEL UPGRADED THEIR OWN STARSTREEK MISSILES. HENCE, SANDF STARSTREEKS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO OTHERS.

Henry120:
Over Fifty terrorists died yesterday afternoon as
troops raided their hideout in Kawuri before
setting out on a planned attack on Konduga.
One Fabricated Artillery Gun, Two Anti – Aircraft
gun, an armoured vehicle and assorted types of
ammunition were captured in the process. Some
hardware, weapons, food items and personal
belongings were also destroyed in the Raid.
One Officer and Two Soldiers were seriously
wounded.
www.defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-raid-terrorists-hideout-in-kawuri-over-50-dead/

HOW COULD YOU ALSO FAIL TO INFORM US THAT BH CAPTURED YET ANOTHER CITY.

http://leadership.ng/news/388641/boko-haram-captures-mubi-town-adamawa

Henry120:
Nigeria builds everything from Proforce PF1 MRAPS, IKRI APC - LAV's (IGIRIGI, Leopard ACV, Inkas LAPV)- APV's (PF MK2, PF MK1), UAV's, Proforce IFV's, Rockets, bombs, Prowler APC's, armoured military transports, Farawa trainer Aircraft, vessels etc etc

Rockets- nah nah nah.

DieVluit1:
Msauza, don't tell me you believed the cease-fire story even for a second when it came out? The Nigerian military's major announcements have always proved to be baseless and comical.

Anyway, I forgot that they are masters of propaganda.

agaugust:
Why not? Boko Haram is reported by BBC as the ones who requested for cease-fire, and promised to release Chibok girls in the process. We are intelligent enough to do that for the sake of the girls, Nigeria is not daft mumu like South Africa that cannot think it's way out of a street with 3 junction cross-roads.

Yesterday we killed 25 Bokos who did not respect the ceasefire.

We are getting the girls back for free, not for ransom, or you can post source to show we are paying Boko money?

Keep learning from Nigeria how to handle terrorists, mighty Israel exchanged one single Israeli army officer for 1,000 terrorists.

Soon, USA, NATO, Israel, and the world will be in Nigeria to learn how to frustrate, waste, and defeat terrorists.

America was here few weeks ago to learn how Nigeria became the first country in the world to defeat Ebola Virus, the USA in now struggling with Ebola and using the technique they learned from Abuja and Lagos to fight the disease, people are dying now in the USA, Nigeria to the rescue of the super power.

Soon, the world will be begging Nigeria to teach them how to win COIN wars.

South Africa has no formula to teach the world about how to defeat Rhino poachers except to tell the world to..."REMOVE ALL YOUR ENDANGERED ANIMALS AND ESCAPE INTO THE NEAREST NEIGHBOURING COUNTRY LIKE WE DID WIH BOTSWANA OUR SAVIOUR"....

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Boko haram never called for cease fire, you did. How will they anyway continue to kill people despite their call for cease fire? They do brake the deal knowing well that you are stranded.

agaugust:
We consented to their demand for cease-fire which they declared UNILATERALLY, go use a dictionary for the meaning of UNILATERAL, and for military purposes it is a less shameful way of temporary surrender by the losing side.

Boko Haram asked for Negotiation same way South Africa asked Cuba for negotiations when defeat was imminent, and Cuba accepted, most warring sides in war accept ceasefire most times in war history, go find out, ignorance is your own Ebola.

SADF = SANDF = BOKO HARAM LEVEL

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BOKO HARAM never demanded any cease fire, what they called for was an exchange. " you release our warriors and you get your girls" that's how it was like. They never called for a cease fire.