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Rexyl: constant killing of Christians? Aims to populate evil! Oh God our Redeemer... Redeem the world from evil.

evil that says 'God of Moses' sent him, yet murdered entire jew clan in arabia, yemen qur. 9:29 'fight those who don't profess d true faith(islam) till they pay d poll tax with hand of humility' yet he says the God of Moses,David sent him? Who is fooling who?

@roypain, 'a nameless spirit'? Let me ask u, hw did Mo recieved inspiration? Cos we know rm ur manual that is nt all d tym that his 'wishful angel Gabriel came to him', accordg to quran 70:4 ' d angels n the spirit ascend to him in a day measure whereof is 50,000 day" which 'Spirit' is Mo talking abt here?..@trottle Also d earlier verse 70:4 'say allah day is lyk 50,000 yrs for human' buh verse 32:5, especially verse 22:47 'a day in d sight of d Lord is lyk a thousand yrs of ur reckoning', Mo's allah confused? Power is f ucking me, oh no...!

@trottle, 'i wholly challange u'? Am sure u don't know what u're getting urself into..As we know 'power situation' during festive period in 9ja isn't great, i personally won't b able to gve it to u as i wish since accord to u 'Holy Bk' shouldn't av as many as over-100 u wrote..buh i refered u to [www.answering-islam.org/quran/contra/] just dwld their zip version u will see over 200 of ur manual contradiction both internal,historical n scientific blunder since this manual say u ppl(nt me) develop rm clot of blood n ur allah say he mislead ppl(quran 16:93) for one part, another it satan(qur 15:42), also mo's imagination isa is born under palm tree negating jewish trad,history of being born in stable = great manipulation of toral,history by gen Mo..just find out more for urself (n wen thru with that i will gve u link to find 1000-errors contradicting ealier revelation ur gen Mo recieved)..which power improved, do u even know who n how ur manual was written?

Stalwert: So from you intellect it is acceptable to kill people who are the minority in a country and destroy their places of worship? You people sound unserious whenever you somersault in very simple issues!

what US army did in iraq, didn't the christain minority pay for it after withdrawal? Is muslim n somalis in kenya nt paying right now for al shabab mall attack? Didn't muslim minority in sri lanka,burma,thailand pays for saudi execution of juvinille sri lanka maid? If yes, then muslims in CAR will pay now n after transitional govt is overthrown for seleka crimes, i assured u..@trottle if u wish, gen mo lyfstyl, how shia hadith destroy uthman,umar n sunni's ali, property sharing, ghadir, ashura, arabeen,kabba, exodus n satanic verses, voilent urging verse etc is enough for u (buh no banning)..am nt saying u're nt versed, buh quranist here av tried it b4 ask them to d extent of even doel ranting on my gmail, am still banned from islam section still today, think b4 commiting urself, lyk show dem camp line 'cos u might nt know what in for', newbies

jimmy089: Dnt mynd dem, they'l neva c dat, unles its orda way round.
Hypocrites wil alway want undue justc upön muslims. God shal judge u al

muslims in CAR are under 10% too-small to overthrow d govt buh 'seleka' are muslim figther rm chad,sudan who after coup rape,abuse,murder christain accdg to UN human rights watchs b4 christain community form 'anti-balaka' as resistant to their attrocities read Bbc n 'arab' aljazeera website..know d fact b4 spitting sh _it n displaying ur ignorance online

Trottle: All you christians who does things blindly I could bring out more than 140 contradictions in the bible. It's time to show you more truths about your hand-written man made book you call bible- which in reality, is not the real 'Injil'- Gospel given to prophet Issa( Jesus) p.b.u.h. Are you ready? Let me give you some minutes to open your different bibles- good news, Gideons, king james etc. Signify if you are all ready. Do not shy away o.

diff Bible buh with same meaning haven't u seen ur manual translated by numerous schoolar in diff english translation or word? let me guess ur age, 14yrs? U're indeed a kid or new to NL? This contraditions av been brought up by well-versed muslims here lyk lanre,vedax,maclantunji,doel,ayahtullah,tingtinz in diff topic buh ended up closing d thread, banning christain,secular rm islam section (i included) wen their manual error start to roll..ask them b4 starting what u can't finish, oo ni lé wo tan, boy

captcochrane: not too gud

but i heard dt in saudi, attacking d government is treason, d guy probably knows dt b4 he started his cyber stuff, he shd av done it outside d country

where there's no law, no sin; d guy knew d law

nd is saudi arabia same as Islam??

he knew d law? Is that an excuse for inhumane verdite, all islamic state took freedom of speech,faith n national wealth(90% within royal family in all gulf state) rm their citizen blackmailing them with arab faith..is saudi n islam d same? Yes, increased voilent against muslim in Burma,sri lanka stemmed rm bheading of sri lanka maid in saudi last yr..shm, religion of piss

Me_Aboki: Hypocrite, so you admit its in your bible, yet you are rejecting it - does Christianity allow you to choose and pick from your scripture?
If yes, then what you have is not Christianity but a fake religion that is man-made, revised and continually being revised by humans - I guess that's how you guys arrived at the various versions of your so called bible - king James version and what-not.

Bible being revised by human? Ur problem is english word 'revised? cos i think u still read ur manual in arabic, av u ever seen ur manual in diff english translation by numerous scholar? If i qoute a verse for u, u'll say it mistranslation n u then gve me another translation by diff scholar, shld i called urs 'revised version'? Learner

@chupcake n Boll2010, u both av point..Nas is living legend incomparable 'a perfectionist n complex ryhmer'.. Eminem vs jay z? Jay z of 90's down to 2005 'Yes' buh from then till nw 'nigga av got to spitt bars nt huh', eminem sing pop? Got ur ans in 'rap god' he wrote 'they say it pop nt hiphop buh somehow i find a way to fushed it'..Eminem might b white buh d only lyricist we av got since d day of biggie, big joe,big pun,j cole,pitbull are also white yet underated..j cole vs k dot? Luv cole since days of 'can't get enough' with trey songz buh overly impressed with 'crooked smile' n his 'Born sinner' album buh k dot 'good kid, mad city' album is d best hiphop av got this year, both av got great future ahead of them, d 'new Nas' av got to say

@chupcake n Boll2010, u both av point..Nas is living legend incomparable 'a perfectionist n complex ryhmer'.. Eminem vs jay z? Jay z of 90's down to 2005 'Yes' buh from then till nw 'nigga av got to spitt bars nt huh', eminem sing pop? Got ur ans in 'rap god' he wrote 'they say it pop nt hiphop buh somehow i find a way to fushed it'..Eminem might b white buh d only lyricist we av got since d day of biggie, big joe,big pun,j cole,pitbull are also white yet underated..j cole vs k dot? Luv cole since days of 'can't get enough' with trey songz buh overly impressed with 'crooked smile' n his 'Born sinner' album buh k dot 'good kid, mad city' album is d best hiphop av got this year, both av got great future ahead of them, d 'new Nas' av got to say

Syncan: It is called "Papal Election procedure/rules".

'Papal election procedure'? These is one of rules n guidlines of Dogma..i think u shld visit ur preist or wikipedia for further enlightment on what Dogma is, bro

Syncan: 1. Election of Popes is based on rules set by those involved " college of cardinals". The apostles elected someone to replace Judas didn't they?
2. Cannonisation involves declaring that humans have borne witness to a holy life led by an individual and that God has been pleased to affirm that via verifiable miracles connected with them. It involves a process of research into the life of the individual and confirmation of the veracity of the claimed miracles.

Just simply put, Dogma means something, but we are saying, it is not a book like you claimed.

i qoute u 'Election of Pope is base on rule set by those involved', pls what is d rule called?

@Candour, u're an example to every Christain, we had civil discussion with diff. views buh we 'disagree to agree' free of insult n abuse, infact i credit u..God bless u,bro

Candour: You're so much in love with the word 'confused' but I doubt you know what it means. You said if my pastor works I should give to another who needs or to orphans and other struggling Christian.

Is it that you were too confused to see this statement I made earlier?



How many times do you give your tithe to a struggling Christian? Or is your pastor that you give it to numbered among the poor in your church?

Deut 14:22-23 that I quoted said you should eat your tithe in the place he chose. How many times do you eat your tithe in your church? I hope you won't display your confusion by equating it to spiritual food.





Heb 7:5 talks of Levites collecting tithes from israelites. Do you know who the Levites were? They were the singers, cleaners, record keepers etc in the temple and they are distinct from priests and have surely not been replaced by your pastors of today.

Luke 18:12
'I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.'

The above was spoken by an evil self righteous Pharisee, is he your role model? If he is your mentor, he sure isn't mine.

Rom 11:35
'Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?'

What has this verse above got to do with tithes? Do you want to magically conjure tithes into that verse? Or you didn't read your bible at all before quoting?

Be sure before giving references next time.




I'm a good citizen so I pay tax. I dont pay tax out of fear. Its an irresponsible citizen that does that. I am a member of the body of Christ so I give to the less endowed members of that body. Whether pastor or gateman. I support the gospel in whatever way possible. I don't belong to Judaism so I don't owe tithe, neither do I pay it.

I am a child of God. I don't live in fear of my God. He's my father and I have no reason to fear. Its only a slave that fears a householder. If you live in fear of God and devourer, its obvious you're an impostor and are not a child of the kingdom. See the verses below and upgrade


Rom 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

2Tim 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Yes, if ur Pastor works, buh there are numerous other Pastor who do ministration fully, who u can pay ur tithe to, poor ppl should b ur last resort (if there is no pastor in ur area) 'for paying tithe or it bcomes Alms' even levites were nt given land buh supported by other tribes thru tithe(Num 18:20, Deu 10:9)..Levite are distinct from Priest? I can't laff, Moses n Aaron are levites(kohath sons) check(Num 2:1-2, n vs 10), do u know Priesthood bcame hereditary for Aaron descendant in sinai @1440-BC (Exo 28:1) they are Sadducces during Christ tym..i pay tax cos am a responsible citizen? Govt u once called criminal org, Since paying tax make u good citizen nt paying tithe make u bad christain -simple logic?..u're nt bound by law? Then read Matt 5:17-20 n u're nt jew yet u read n pray Psalm everyday( is David nt Jew), who are u fooling

Ubenedictus: now that you know the spelling thank God. I also want to tell you that there is no sacred book in catholicism called dogma, quote me anywhere.

Then tell me on which principles(set of rules) 1. Elections of Pope based on 2. Cannonisation(chosing) of Saint..ask ur priest, Dogma is a set of principles laid down by d church Authority which guide their actions

Indeed u're confused..d Deu verse u wrote neva say 'eat ur tithe urself' buh to bring ur tithe to 'place He chose to place His name' where if nt Lord temple/church..Yes i typed if ur pastor work buh i said gve ur tithe to other pastor who ministration fully(Num 18:12,Neh 13:12) or orphan n struggling christain(Act 11:29) nt keep it in ur pocket, N.T n Apostle Paul support tithe(Heb 7:5, Luke 18:12, Rom 11:35)..state govt a criminal org? Yet u pay tax for fear of nt going to prison buh nt tithe..thereby fulfiling ceaser's will buh nt God's.. u fear man pass God?

Indeed u're confused..d Deu verse u wrote neva say 'eat ur tithe urself' buh to bring ur tithe to 'place He chose to place His name' where if nt Lord temple/church..Yes i typed if ur pastor work buh i said gve ur tithe to other pastor who ministration fully(Num 18:12,Neh 13:12) or orphan n struggling christain(Act 11:29) nt keep it in ur pocket, N.T n Apostle Paul support tithe(Heb 7:5, Luke 18:12, Rom 11:35)..state govt a criminal org? Yet u pay tax for fear of nt going to prison buh nt tithe..thereby fulfiling ceaser's will buh nt God's

souldust: he didnt yet that guy believes it must be written to be true. Trinity isnt written anywhere in the bible and TBH, when reading the new testament especially the letters of petre and paul, you wont think the apostles believe in co equality of god and jesus. Yet i believe this guy has no problem with the trinity.

But becos his church has induced this catholicophobia in him, he just thinks things are not true.

For me, i am not really bothered about this arguement as i am not particularly disposed to christianity but i think other churches are very unfair with the image of the catholic church they try to paint.

Tbh, the whole of christianity as well as the whole world owes it to catholicism if only you can try to look at the church's history and their contributions to humanity.

bro, remmd we're nt here to abuse/condemmed any catholics/ protestant church or any christain cos we're all Christain(christ-alyk) just to debate n argue inorder to 'disagree to agree'..Trinity was somehow mentioned by Christ although nt that they are equal, in Matt 28:16-20 wen He told his disciples to 'baptize all nations in name of the Father,Son n Holy Spirit'

Syncan: From what I see, its a combination of the two. dodgma indeed. SMH.

why insult n abuse ur fellow christain? Frustration? Permit my spelling nt dodgma buh 'Dogma' u're just trying to obstruct d truth by laying lame emphasis on dodgma u know what i mean even with spelling/typing error..am sure if i was there wen Christ turned water to wine, u ppl will b saying 'Msgamble pray for us' lyk am God or Christ that livest forever, hmmn

@Candour, i only qoute Mal 3? Buh what of Abraham,David,Solomon cases, Christ ceaser's illustration that i gave u? Even that Gal 5:16 verse u qoute is even against ur stand, it is u that fulfilled 'lust of flesh' nt spirit by saying 'my pastor is wealthy, i wouldn't pay tithe to him', buh state govt is also endowed yet u pay tax? Didn't u, (my pastor is rich? Were u there wen God called him or knows God convenant with him?)..flesh controlled ur action by 'gving ceaser ceaser's buh nt God what blong to Him' going against Christ words

Ubenedictus: i am in the Catholic Church, and i have increase in grace and knowledge and yet there is no such book as 'dodgma'.

no such bk as dogma? Then u're a kid in catholicsm better ask ur priest,sisters or google what 'dogma' is..dogma is a set of principles laid down by d church authority,some catholic refers to it as (church-) traditions..when Pope visit brazil few mnth back gving sermon he only qoute Bible verses few tyms buh always pointin n qouting dogma as church stance against homo,abortion etc

Candour: @the bolded, thank God for your understanding. Ensure you give to those who truly need it instead of somebody who already has an abundance of resources simply because he's called pastor. Christ treasures giving the least of his brethren more than any other thing.




At the bolded. Pls stop living in the bondage of fear because fear is not a Christian virtue. If you're truly a Christian, not only were you redeemed from sin, you were also redeemed from every curse of the law including curse associated with the law of tithing. See the scripture below

Gal 3:13
'Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree'

If Christ took your curse, then no devil can put it back. No spoiler or devourer can come near me because i operate on a plane far above them. I pray you step up above them too.

typical of 'confused xtain' always twisting scripture talkless of my word, what i say is that 'if ur pastor is praticing dr/engineer then he is nt God's work fully buh part tym' then pays tithe to other pastor,orphan nt 'my pastor is already wealth i won't gve him my tithe' u're harming urself..Christ has redeemed us so law doesn't matter? Then kill ur neighbor(thou shall nt kill, lie(thou shall nt lie), carve idol n worship(u shall worship ur one n only God), engage in abortion,stealing,homosexuality since u av been redeemed from law n curse..confused one

Cyberbaze: MY DEAR,STOP BEEN HYPOCRITICAL, YOU CAN'T HONOUR VIRGIN MARY NOR THE SAINTS IN HEAVEN BUT YOU DEAR HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL AND ADDRESS THE RICH SKILLED MEN AS HONOURABLE? AND GO AND REREAD YOUR BIBLE, ON THE FIRST MIRACLE JESUS DID ON EARTH IF NOT FOR THE INTERCESSION OF VIRGIN MARY, JESUS WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THE MIRACLE FOR HE EXCLAIMED THAT,THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME HE HAS SCHEDULE FOR HIS SELF-REVELATION BUT YET HE, CONSIDERING HER WORD AS A MOTHER HE WENT ON AND DID THE MIRACLE..THAT SIMPLY SHOWING HOW VIRGIN MARY CAN INTERCEDE FOR US IN HEAVEN EVEN WHEN CHRIST HAS NOT DECIDED TO DO SO. OK YOU SAYING SOMEONE CANNOT PRAY FOR YOU,EVEN ANGELS AND SAINTS IN HEAVEN THEN Y DO U MEET YOUR PASTORS WHO ARE ON EARTH TO PRAY FOR YOU WHOSE LIFE ARE JUSTIFIED AT THE END OF THERE LIFE? GO AND STUDY ABOUT THE LIFE OF ST MONICA HOW SHE PRAYED FOR HER SON WHO LATER BECAME A SAINT ALSO(ST AUGUSTINE )..AT THE END,CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS CHOSEN TO PRAY TO GOD DIRECT OR RATHER, PRAYING THROUGH THE SAINTS WHO ARE IN HEAVEN.

Mary intervenes that why she is equal to God? Mayb if i was there on that day n told Christ 'd wine has finished', u(catholic) ppl would av equate me to God(by praying to me) n b saying 'Msgamble pls pray for us'? Hw dumb..Saint in heaven? What abt Rapture(1cor 15:52, 1Thes 4: 16-17, Job19:25-27)? Read n learn abt Rapture..Christ av mercy

idomalord: the bones was displayed to show to some idiots that he is really dead. no need to pray to him again. he cant even help himself, he had to God. same as mary , john etc. if only those people can read their bible, they wud c that wat they are doing is outside wat the bible are saying. even recent revelations show that pope john paul, micheal jackson, whitney houston, bimbo odukoya are in hell. what the bible is saying is Christ 1st then holiness. but its just sad that today christains dont know wat we ought to believe in.

who was the revelation of their condition(beign in hell) revealed to? Better b careful of who to blieve..@op n catholics, Peter, leader of d Disciples? Is there any proof in d Scriptures? Although he was very close to Christ accding to history st. Thomas went to today iraq,st. Mark to egpty etc so he didn't lead d disciples at any point..don't b suprised @ catholic reasoning since they av 2-holy book The Holy Bible n Dodgma, shm

Candour: What if my pastor works or has other business fetching him money, does he still qualify for tithes like the Levites?

Did you see Deut 14:22-23 that i typed out? It said you should eat tithes or is that portion not in your bible? Deut 14:29 says give tithes to Levites, Fatherless, Widow and Strangers, Do you do this? or don't you know that its in your bible as well?

I am following Christ through the leading of the Holy Spirit. Now tell us whom you are following. Your pastor?

what if my pastor works? Then he is nt qualify for tithe cos unlike Levite who work for God n take care of His sheep all their tym, then u may gve ur tithe to other pastor(who're doing God's work fully) Orphan,beggar or fellow struggling christain neva keep ur tithe in ur pocket or as part of ur money it a spoiler..wen u gives ceaser ceaser's(govt tax), why do u want to hold-on/keeps to what blong to God? B wise

Candour: Its funny that you actually missed the import of the post you quoted. See the reference again

Deut 14:22-23
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that
your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the
tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil,
and the firstborn of your herds and flocks
in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his
Name, so that you may learn to revere the
Lord your God always.

The bolded portion said you should eat the tithe so you'll learn to fear him always. Hope you now understand what message the brother was passing across?

Also what's with your obsession with all these things you keep listing? Do you hate EPL teams particularly Arsenal so much? Do you dislike DSTV? Do you own a TV or you hate it too?

Pls try and relax.

d message in O.T was clear enough 'tithe was paid to Levites' cos they lyk pastor doesn't work except in House of God nt that u shld pay tithe to urself..even Christ say 'gve unto ceaser(spelling?) ceaser's n gve what blong to God to HIM' wen ask abt tax buh 'u pays govt tax but nt tithe' wen some lyk u in N.T gave all their blongings to d Apostles n d church, who are u following Bible,Abraham,David,Solomon,Christ or urself?

zealed64: Why are these tithe givers ignoring this comment and the chapter of the bible mentioned!!.?? Deuteronomy 14:22-29
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that
your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the
tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil,
and the firstborn of your herds and flocks
in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his
Name, so that you may learn to revere the
Lord your God always. --
[ YEYE DEY SMELL]

bro, d truth is that this 'confused xtain' wen talking abt tithe d O.T doesn't matter to them cos they're in 'new convenant' buh asking them hw d 'Convenant' came into beign they would nw run back to Issiah n Kings(O.T nw matter nt jewish bk anymore)..keep dcieving urself don't use ur money to help Gospel buh waste it on Arsenal match(epl matches),dstv sub.,immoral movies,bar,cinemas,GF n other worldly/nonsense thing

omonnakoda: Abraham paid "TITHE" once in a very specific situation following a war
David and Solomon paid tithes to the JEWISH TEMPLE because they were JEWS under the law.
Under the Law Tithes were paid to Levites. It is important to understand Jewish law. Levites wer in essence part of the "GOVERNMENT" They were not allowed to own or share land like the other 11 tribes when they reached the promised land and they had DUTIES to the public

Today we are talking of paying tithes to people who are not Levites who OWN plenty of property. Christian pastor when it is convenient say they are no longer under THE LAW but remember THE LAW whe it comes to money. THIEVES!!

dat is why i pity 'confused christian', OT is nw a Jewish text or law wen it comes to tithe, buh when arguing with muslim/atheist on religion matter it O.T that u run to.. In N.T some convertees gave their all(nt 1/10th) to Apostles to propagate Gospel or feed poor among us(gentiles) levites are pastor,priest(ppl who do GOD's work), Christ was clear wen he says he has nt come to erase any law(inclding ur so-called jewish law)..whether u paid tithe or nt, it will be deducted from ur earnings either by bar,cinemas,credit card, ur car or GF..that is why some1 who earned #30thou do meaning things with it than 250k earner

nora544: Adeboye is not a real christian because he preaches about witchhunting that kill kids, and no real christian can do this.

saying such thingz will make ur lyf more miserable n i pity ur progeny(cos u' re placing under 'Divine curse') by attacking d Man(some of his pastor av done it b4, we know hw they end up)

Clemzy16: I'm still a student and i don't fancy paying tithes. But if you check my life, i'm better than some people who do.

hw xactly is ur lyf better? If u fail to deduct tithe from ur income 1-way or d other it will b deducted either by ur GF,bar or illness..bware, Abraham,David,Solomon etc all pays tithe even some convert in N.T gave their all(property n blongings) to Apostle for Evangelising(cos Apostle moves from one state to another), common u couldn't give 1/10th, i pity u

Clemzy16: I'm still a student and i don't fancy paying tithes. But if you check my life, i'm better than some people who do.

hw is ur lyf better? If u fail to deduct tithe from ur income 1-way or d other it will b deducted either by ur GF,bar or illness..bware, Abraham,David,Solomon etc all pays tithe even some convert in N.T gave their all(property n blongings) to Apostle for Evangelising(cos Apostle moves from one state to another), common u couldn't give 1/10th, i pity u