mostob:
Unless you're talking about management and off field aspects. Using 15 years to build dominance in international football is crazy. It is a plan that is insane and unachievable. Let's even set aside age issue, what of the constant and frequent evolvement of football? By the time you use 15 years to perfect your tikitaka football, teams you're hoping to dominate would have evolved with up-to-date tactic.

Let me also add that your team will be found out. It will be so easy to prepare against your team because oppositions already figure out what to expect.

Spain tiki taka dazzled the world for just four years. After that dem kpo kpo dem 5-1.
Now they are just as pedestrian as they used to be before their tiki taka juju took the world by surprise.

TheGoodJoe:


I believe the pursuit of dominance will lead to winning more in the long run than chasing short wins. So defending to win a cup will not result in more wins than a team working toward dominance. I also see developing a team towards playing possessively-offensively as the best way towards dominance.

Dominance is good but take what you can and fill your trophy cabinet whenever the opportunity comes because, in modern day national football, the kind of unbroken tiki taka dominance (I say this tongue in cheek) you are looking for like Spain had from 2008-2012 is hard oo. So grab what you can and get moving cos in international football you are up today, tomorrow you are in the trenches.

Remember, history matters and our football cannot answer to your appetite. I like good football but I will never let that override historical victories cos I will not be here forever but if we win, even our posterity will glory in it.

Many of us were not born in 1980 and even 94 when Nigeria won first and second Afcon but we rejoice in those historical achievements and we equally feel the pain of historical losses like CIV 84, Maroc 88, missing out in the late 90's when we peaked and the final in 2000.

Do you know what a victory in this Afcon would have meant for young boys of 8-14 years old.

It was Afcon 94 that made me a football fan oo. Prior to that time wetin concern me with football even though I still remember watching Okwaraji slump in 89. But Japan 93 and Afcon 94 blew fire into my belly.

So your appetite is good but victory for the sake of history and posterity trumps everything.

jieta:
Brazil are losing semi finalists when there hosted in 2014.

OH thank you for the correction.

Philosopher1979:


He is right. A Jewish man invented the mobile phone. Jews have the highest iq in the world. They are just too smart.
They invented Facebook WhatsApp genetic engineering etc
It got Hitler angry but he couldn't succeed.
It's a fact the Jewish genius is too outstanding.
The abrahamic covenant works for them.

Hahaha hahaha no wahala.

charlesemeka85:
that Komenk guy na case I swear

Initially I Dey feel pity for him based on how almost 100% of monickers here bash him on a daily but with time I tell myself the truth say the guy too jonse 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I used to defend him oo but Chai that man na bitterleaf. Anything Nigerian player, he must denigrate or ridicule. If not that he's black, I'd have said he's racist

charlesemeka85:
Elf isn’t like that just that he suffered so many heartbreak via his expectations in the team in the past which made him turn bad 🤣🤣🤣

He forgot that no national team is stable, good and bad runs will surely happen. Few footballing power house today are a shadow of themselves while few lesser ones hv grown in strength and quality

Italy has not qualified for two world cups back to back. Germany knocked out first round back to back. Brazil has not gone past quarter finals of world cup since 2002 (except for the 2014 semi final run)

charlesemeka85:
many folks here re like that

If u can remember certain monickers were mute and disappeared from this thread when the super eagles were having a smooth run until they lost in the finals they all resurfaced criticizing the players and Jpes tactical approach

They are the set of pple I named “Shebi I tell una” gang 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Their leader is thegoodjoe, even if the team went on to win the afcon he won’t be impressed since they didn’t win it with tiki taka style of football with Nwakali the main orchestrator in midfield 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

May tiki taka perish!

Princezibk:
Some peeps are born that way ,,, Just naturally evil minded …

I have someone like him at my work place ,,, he has been sacked in many organizations due to that attitude, though he got talent so that’s working for him but in a short period, he’ll become an irritant that for the first time one will wish his fellow man evil or death …

This nuisance man at my work place castigated the eagles 🦅 sothe, he’ll be mocking we eagles supporters. He’ll come before every match and say today you guys go cry 😭,,, When we got to finals you won’t believe this man posted eagles and was saying “ he believes in them from day one “ jubilating all over his media space … My colleagues had to call me to ask if this man his mentally stable ? 🤣🤣

When we lost the final , he came back again and said you see I told you’ll to thread carefully,, that can we see they disappointed as usual ! We had to report him to the director and we dragged him so much that he hated himself. Imagine a 43 yrs old man 👴

😂😂😂 That's Blueelf you are working with. I swear, that's him.

Moniter0:
Mikel should know that Chelsea of before is no longer the Chelsea of now, even since the departure of the Russian and Israeli man, Roman Abramovich, Chelsea has returned to the status it was before it was acquired by him.

Chelsea greatly prospered under the administration of Roman Abramovich, because the Jews have that blessing from God to prosper in anywhere they find themselves.

Make I just laugh 😂😂😂

lbrichman2:
Person go dey lie with full chest, just to discredit his own countryman
I don't know what to call that again
Na wa

His approach is that we are all taken by Osimhen so he needs to be contrarian just to prove he's different. Yes one can be contrarian just as charlesemeka85 is when it comes to Nwakali issue but that is because the facts supports his position. In komekn's case, no evidence

charlesemeka85:
to them e dey easy. If they can’t respect Osimhen who hv scored more than African legends like Weah and Eto’o in the history of Serie A, single handedly won the scudetto for Napoli after over 3 decades as well as winning the APOTY that a Nigerian player last won 1999 I wonder what else the guy hv to do to earn their respect

Them think say e easy true true. As na for television we dey watch. Football is hard oo

zicky:
that theory uhmmm so many things surround it, jaguar jet was grounded because of same reason. Some young airmen (engineers) that was sent on course for the maintenance of that jet was frustrated out of the force.

And it was a C-130 aircraft. 4 engines. If three engines die, only one can still keep the plane in flight.

CaptainStephen:
Serious tragedy, we lost my aunty's husband in the crash too.

The crash shook her so much she refuses to travel by air or have anything to do with an airplane.

Decades later, i came home after completing my airborne course to show off and my aunty was at home visiting my parents, na so celebration went cold as i didn't want to mention anything aeroplane or C130 near her.

It was real devastation. Rendered many young women widows, children orphans. Destroyed their hopes. Only God knows how many people's lives went south because of that tragic incidence.

You know the theories around it: that it was IBB that orchestrated it to prevent a coup. We used to relay such stories then. But looking back now, I doubt if it was IBB cos the number of soldiers cut across all arms of the armed forces but regardless of who planned it, the fact is that it was a monumental tragedy.

zicky:
Remi Alege, use to act like a tomboy those days. Word in bold don't exist anymore

Yeah. That's her name. The rainbow people have ensured so oo.

zicky:
Wow, you know the family very well they have a younger sister Remind.

Yes but can't remember her name

elyte89:



Dt plane crashed in my area (jakande estate close to Okota area) 😎

Woww it was a C-130 aircraft. Real tragedy. Affected lots of families.

zicky:
memories, had a very close family who died in that plane crash Squadron leader Alege from kogi state from same NAF Base makurdi

Olu and Bola Alege. They were ahead of me by one class. Olu is now a military officer. Their Dad was a guy man then oo.

charlesemeka85:
there is this igbo musician my late dad plays his song always when I small

His name is Patty Obasi. Also he was a big fan of Bongo Sikwe too

Bongos Ikwe, Idoma from Benue State. The Ikwes are a large family. I was a classmate of his nephew Ada whose father a Squadron leader died in the ill-fated air accident that killed some military men in 1993.

Bongos Ikwe. He was popular in our father's generation

ChrisKels:


You sabi music bro.

Thank you Nwanem

Goke7:


Quote of the day, abi the week sef

Bro when I first started out professionally in Akure after youth service, I will see some cases, I go begin shake. My boss then Mr. Fakunle SAN will tell me to calm down and see how he will destroy them. In his words 'I will hit them like a brickwall. And truly he go destroy them oo and why not. Person wey don gather over 30 years experience.

Experience ehn, it cannot be bought, only thing is that it takes time to acquire it. Even mumu can use experience shine against an intelligent newbie.

ChrisKels:


I wish you were Igbo bro, I believe you would love cultural and Igbo highlife musics like I do. I don’t listen to Afrobeats.

On my playlist are men like Osadebe, Sir Warrior, Oliver De Coque, Don Sach and his Oriental brothers, Emeka Morocco, Ozoemena Nsugbe, Ayaka, Pericoma, Chief Michael Udegbi, Theresa Onuorah, ndi iyom Nkwerre etc.


Omo I gave one U23 girl a lift one certain time and I was playing my favorite “Alusi Obeledu” by chief Ozoemena Nsugbe and this girl get mind tell me say make I check the music for all these their awantiro na so my face change.

I don't understand what they say oo but I enjoy the sheer poetry and musicality of their songs. I listen to Ositadebey and Oliver De Coque. And I trust you'd know Eddie quansa that signature tune for new masquerade. I like ibinabo by Rex Jim Lawson

Never ceases to amaze me how people enjoy them oo. I'm like na music be dis? But it is what it is.

Goke7:


na wetin dey pain me be this, that his tactics will work with a team that has enough ball-playing players that don't lose possession easily in the midfield. No wonder the North Africans went for him cos it suits their kind of playing pattern.

Otilo. Na Algeria will reap the fruit of our hard work. We will begin again.

mrwilliams9:


You are so correct. We should be learning from our experience in this last AFCON and build from there. Sometimes you will miss the title the first time but that experience of loss will propel you forward.

This happens many times in life. Bro anybody that has acquired experience in any field of human endeavor will surely acknowledge that truly experience is not just the best teacher, experience is the teacher.

Let me tell you something. That goal Maradona scored against England in Mexico 86. He had done something similar to that before but the keeper saved it at the last minute because he delayed. So against Peter shilton he relied on experience and quickly slotted it in.

charlesemeka85:
e be like say me and u na the same wen it comes to music

Our artists I agree are good and making waves all over the world but I hardly play their songs unless maybe burna boy, Tems , Wiz n few others once in a while


The one with too much hype n noise who I don’t rate at all na Davido. Nice guy and very accommodating but music wise he is wack

I'd rather listen to Rex Jim Lawson and Ositadebe or Sunny Ade or Fela than listen to Wizkid, Davido or Burnaboy. I find it hard to swallow contemporary Nigerian music. I don try as per its popular but e no just dey enter me.

But these guys are global superstars. They even perform at global events. That's how big they are.

I no like am no mean I won't acknowledge their effort. To deny it means I have no respect for hard work and consistency

Princezibk:
And some bad belle said he no get consistency 🥱🥱

I’m bewildered 😳
From Belgium to France now Italy 🇮🇹 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

I don't fancy contemporary Nigerian music. Never fancied it from it's infancy with guys like Plantashun boiz, the remedies, African China etc till now that it has matured but I can't deny that our music has become a global brand.

A player like Osimhen that even as an u-17 player Fifa has a dedicated video for him and the guy has grown winning significant laurels since that time, then one bitterleaf man will allow prejudice and emotive bias to blind him from acknowledging the quality Osimhen possesses. It's such a shame

mrwilliams9:


The bolded is one of the reasons we underperform at AFCON.

If this crop of SE was being managed by say Senegalese FA, we could run the next 3-4 AFCONs. The squad and players are there as evidenced in our last final appearance. The issue is continuity post tournament.

We are magical in our thinking. We always want results without realizing that generally many factors converge to produce results - time, dedication, experience, effort etc.

Many of our commenters here sneer at our getting silver this Afcon because according to them we have gotten silver and even won as champion before.

Haaa, so France will sneer at the valiant effort of the French team after being defeated at the WC because they have won the WC twice before?

Every new generation of a nation's players must hustle their hustle and we cannot deride their good effort by merely brushing it off with the better performance of past generations.

The same French, Spanish and German players who won France 98, SA 2010, Brazil 2014 were kicked out first round in 2002, 2014 and 2018.

Whether we have won as champions before, will never make me look at the effort this team put in with a small eye. That will be rank ungratefulness unworthy of a true fan. I appreciate them and will keep appreciating their valiant efforts.

Meanwhile jpes has learnt something valuable from this Afcon ooo but we will not benefit from it if he goes away. And another coach will come, try his best, lose, get sacked or leaves the job and the circle continues as we continue to look for a Fae who will win at first try

Princezibk:
Pls stop being this way 🙏

It’s really disgusting 🤮
Probably you’re that way real life , dmso you can’t be straightened anymore…

Bitterleaf will always be bitter even if you wash it.

Odunayaw:
"he should score more goals, it's not a strong side"

Finished man

I think say na only me notice that jaundiced slant from bitterleaf fc

Goke7:


don't try to rewrite history to suit your narrative, the games we played in the first round of AFCON 2013 were boring to the extent we all lost hope before the quarter-final match against CIV reports had it that the NFF had reserved air tickets for the entire team back to Nigeria before the match against CIV, that's how poor we were then.

Keshi won. Once you win in naija, that's all that matters. Effort, learning from experience, opportunity to improve means nothing to them. That's why after every tournament we begin afresh again. You see what Senegal did with Aliu Cisse before he eventually won the Afcon? That can never be naija.

Goke7:


The same thing we all said about Stephen Keshi, no surprises. Even Gerhet Rohr started looking like a good coach when he left us, kotinu

Thank you. We are always filibustering. Small time, tears and lamentations

MallamSpicey:
I'm hearing JPesiro has declined on extending a contract offer and has quit as coach.

Good news for me, argue as you wish but the man rode his luck on pure cowardice football and on the back of sheer patriotism from the boys than any managerial "genius" on his part, his decision to not only play unfit players, but also play the most cowardly display of football ever managed by a Nigerian team in an AFCON FINAL affirmed my reasons why this guy just had to go.

Enough of these foreign journeymen coaches, if we can't get a decent enough foreign coach, then let Amunike (who looks to be the likely candidate to take over the team) step up with Finidi ASAP.

Na so. Small time now we'd start hankering for Jpes